Board 8 > Touhou Mafia - Topic 9: Deaf to All But the Song

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What are atomic bombs in terms of mafia? That would have Utsuho written all over it

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goddamn Caelus shut up with the ****ing flavor meta. I swear to god you're trying to distract us from lynching somebody at this point more than trying to find scum

I don't see why Kracko's still alive, by the way. His play has been ridiculously shifty pretty much the whole way through (Coasting a "confirmable" claim) and his role makes all of about zero sense. At this point though, I could almost excuse that to lynch the guy who's willing to write up paragraphs about the games but isn't talking about which players he thinks are scum and why

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Wouldn't Yukari and Shikieiki flipping town cause problems for the last/extra boss theory anyway? Flavor splits are usually a bit more cohesive than "all mafia are X but some X are town."

I feel like there's a better use of our time today than trying to figure out the split or what happened with Spiral or potential flavors for everybody, but darned if I can figure out what that is. I've got few ideas left.

ulti when did you come back stop ignoring me :(

I...honestly forgot about death as a suspect. I'd put him under kracko and probably caelus, but "he didn't get up" is a shakier defense to me than all the other confirmation we have flying around. >_> Raka and Fett are potentials, Reg is quite possibly SK, Ulti and I aren't ENTIRELY off the hook, Boko pretty much is, and Vaga definitely is. That's my stance at the moment. Yes, scum prosty is a thing that has happened for who knows what reason, but Boko is just plain too paranoid in our interactions for him to be scum. oh no I used reasoning not based in meta I might explode

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From: ImTheMacheteGuy | Posted: 2/15/2012 5:41:53 PM | #051
What are atomic bombs in terms of mafia? That would have Utsuho written all over it

Atomic bombs....all you need to know is that if there's an atomic bomb in a board game, HGR is getting lynched. >_> (They blow up everybody voting them if they get lynched <_<)

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yeah that was in Chaos Mafia II
I played Utsuho, the atomic bomb who blows up all people on my lynch

but thats a banned role (Hence Chaos mafia), so I dont expect one here
or any bomb period
though Utsuho does sound like a threat-to-town role

even so there is no point in guessing whether or not she will be here

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I agree flavour meta is a waste of time.

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also when exactly is 23:18 EST for you guys?
(as in how much time is left?)

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that'd be 10:18 for me so uhhhh

bout four and a half hours

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Well, I admit flavor meta would have been more useful if we have a flavor cop..

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goddamn Caelus shut up with the ****ing flavor meta. I swear to god you're trying to distract us from lynching somebody at this point more than trying to find scum

I don't see why Kracko's still alive, by the way. His play has been ridiculously shifty pretty much the whole way through (Coasting a "confirmable" claim) and his role makes all of about zero sense. At this point though, I could almost excuse that to lynch the guy who's willing to write up paragraphs about the games but isn't talking about which players he thinks are scum and why

YOU shut the f*** up. I've never played this before so I don't have the knowledge and experience as the rest of you. I don't know how any of you have played before. I'm not inclined to pick up on tells when I know less about what to look for. I don't exactly have confidence in myself and I can't explain any of what jdizzy did because I don't completely understand it and that put a target on my back the second I stepped in on this role. The only way I can help is to use what I know and what I know is the f***ing games. Otherwise, what would I have to offer? Indecision and silence? Would that be useful?

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I never said anything about banging her. Also, I wouldn't bang her. -LusterSoldier (on a fat pageant mom whose daughter chugs Mt. Dew)

Something I've been thinking over for the past while...

Game of 27. WCS, Scum has 9 (likely 8+1). 7+1 seems a bit better.

So that means Town is18-19 people.
So far, 7 Town Power have flipped
6 Town Vanilla have flipped (this includes Silver)

We have 4 Vanilla and 1 Miller claim.
-Reg, I'm buying right now. Nothing to suggest he'd be Inno-scanning other than his play. Which could also be apathetic Vanilla Reg.
-Ulti is most likely Town, don't see scum Janitoring their own person, that and Owl basically freaked out and gave up on the game when he found out I could revive Ulti
-Fett claimed Miller, seems likely in this large of a game with a GF

This leave Death and Dizzy/Caelus. Leaning more towards the latter, mainly because thinking Dizzy was bussed by Walrus a lot, and somewhat by Owl. However, Death as well was a target of Walrus and was after Owl himself.


(Breaking up this post...)

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Then there's the 5 Power claims. Two of them are blatant counters to each other, the one is a Doc who seemingly hasn't worried scum at all, and the other is another investigative role for town.

From flipped roles we have:
Investigative:
-Librarian (Flavor Cop)
-Reporter (Watcher/Tracker)
-Little Miss Sunshine (Unlimited Dayvig + Cop)

Protective:
-Roleblocker

Other:
-Inventor: Covers Protection (Gave Chris BP Cape or something), and probably had a scan or something as well.
-Zombie (Either he revived himself, and poor XIII for N2 being scum only, or he was a mason recruiter, or something else)
-Judge (Only thing I've found about judge is he has to hammer for his vote to count...but Eagle's votes always appeared in the tallies)

Adding in the claims:
Investigative:
-Librarian
-Reporter
-Miss Sunshine
-Prosti

Protection:
-Roleblocker
-Reviver
-Doc

Other:
-Inventor
-Judge
-Zombie
-Herald (Paralyzer)
-DV/Mason-a-Day

Boko suspicion has me woried about him using Luis to get himself confirmed. Partly why I was wondering if Boko would have known at all about Kracko visiting Luis to Paralyze him the night Boko slept with him.

The scum DV would suck. Don't entirely like Tom's votes at the end of D1 and D2. Made SBell a more likely lynch D1, and never really gave much reasoning for Shadow D2 other than the fact Chris told him to. (Could load topic 5 from cache, Luis does indeed try to get Drak lynched last minute with an unvote). The mason-ish thing doesn't really make sense for scum. Seems like too blatant of a way to be able to misdirect Town, which Town generally doesn't need help being misdirected.

Not sure how I feel about the Doc-Dayvig/Cop-Watcher triangle that was possible with other people able to scan or get info from people. Raka hasn't been particularly great this game either.

Just the role Herald seems partly anti-town. Having to choose someone each night and make them not vote is really only that useful in a late game situation to block a mafia vote train. Other then that it just seems more likely to hinder Town throughout the game. Would be a lot more sure about Kracko if Owl and Walrus hadn't jumped at his lynch D1 when he voted Luis and immediately jumped off it.

I feel like Boko gives Town too much information gaining power at night. He is essentially a Tracker, just doesn't inform town who his target visited, and Town already had a Tracker + Watcher in Spiral.

Tom is probably the one I'm the least worried about, followed by Raka. The D1 stuff could easily be bussing, so I'd lynch either Kracko or Boko from the power claims.

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eh I just dont see Boko as a danger, and he is the only one who could possible find the SK, so I am definitely not up for lynching him yet

also I am not sure if leaving a vote on Kracko, who would probably be my choice after all, is a smart thing to do with me leaving before deadline

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yeah I am leaving nowish but I'll be back before deadline and I am currently pretty much gonna vote kracko

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From: KingKracko | #031
I'm pretty sure I confirmed my Luis paralysis before Boko's claim, I confirmed it pretty early that day. I know I confirmed before Luis was shot by Chris for sure.

And thanks for the flavor Caelus, Reisen does seem to fit if that role does exist.

call.

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From: UltimaterializerX | #038
Spiral has learned not to gambit as town. I refuse to think he was lying about that scan, and either he or Silver was scum. This isn't even an issue we should still be talking about.

If I had to choose one among Death or Fett to lynch, I would pick Death.

Boko, I'm keeping my options open and we just had a scum hooker a few months ago. It's not impossible.

I'm thinking Caelus today, then Raka and Death in some order. I honestly do buy Kracko here, though admittedly my reads this game have been trash.

2 things:

1) yes, I know, I understand ~ Bible Mafia
2) was gauging reactions to the question from a specific person

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Topic 7 seriously purged?

I thought Kracko's claim came after the Luis kill

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From: Mr_Vaga | #063
Boko suspicion has me woried about him using Luis to get himself confirmed. Partly why I was wondering if Boko would have known at all about Kracko visiting Luis to Paralyze him the night Boko slept with him.

Man, I woulda had to be setting up the long con, then. I suspected Luis as scum starting day 2 and voted for him each day until I could finally visit him at night and got a damning result. It wasn't just an out of the blue "oh, randomly scanned Luis lol he's scum" - I started voting for him before modkill city happened, even!

Keep in mind that Drakeryn has confirmed my flavor character, and has stated that according to his knowledge of the flavor I am someone on the town side of this flavor split and that I am confirmed by town as at least having the ability to "visit" someone at night. These two things should make it pretty likely that I'm town from your point of view, other townies. I guess if the question is whether or not I'm town/scum vagabond, then Silver (as well as Death) confirming that I have in fact visited them doesn't help clear me, but it's pretty reasonable evidence, I'd say!

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From: Mr_Vaga | #069
Topic 7 seriously purged?

I thought Kracko's claim came after the Luis kill

It's lame, I agree.

I'm pretty sure I voted for Luis is the first or second post of Day 4 starting, fwiw.

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I don't know why scum hasn't targeted me yet. Although it's possible they're doing this to cast suspicion on me and getting me lynched. Honestly, though I don't feel confident I can survive the upcoming night.

Regardless, we have about two hours left and no conclusive lynch yet. I'm still putting my vote on Kracko. Caelus feels like a newbie town who wants to help as much as he can. In fact, I'd probably post the same thing if I knew the flavor better.

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From: Raka_Putra | #073
I don't know why scum hasn't targeted me yet. Although it's possible they're doing this to cast suspicion on me and getting me lynched. Honestly, though I don't feel confident I can survive the upcoming night.

Regardless, we have about two hours left and no conclusive lynch yet. I'm still putting my vote on Kracko. Caelus feels like a newbie town who wants to help as much as he can. In fact, I'd probably post the same thing if I knew the flavor better.

raka such scum

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What? I won't object to no lynch but it seems unlikely.

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Mr_Vaga posted...
Topic 7 seriously purged?

I thought Kracko's claim came after the Luis kill

Wasn't the site you can use to view purged topics already mentioned? And oh how I wish I could give my role info.

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Why is everyone so scared to put their vote where their mouth is? Its rather clear that scum are just sitting around, waiting for this mislynch to happen, and it will due to everyone using flavor meta as flimsy reasoning. If you are going to lynch me, get it the **** over with, so I can laugh at you all.

Its clear the scum are likely 3/4 of these: Caelus, Raka, Fett, Death. Get it done.

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Caelus feels like a newbie town who wants to help as much as he can. In fact, I'd probably post the same thing if I knew the flavor better.

You're exactly right about me. On the other hand, let's see what happens if I do this...

##Unvote

##Vote: Raka

You know Touhou. How well? I don't know, but you know it. You're defending me, the helpless newbie who doesn't know the game. I think Kracko is town and you'd rather get rid of him. You've been defending me. Why? I'm a newbie and I really don't know what I'm doing. Scum should want to keep me around. You certainly seem to...

Are you implying that because I saved Chris, scum couldn't get him and I killed Drakeryn?

Arti's item saved Chris, and as soon as Chris informed us of this, he was dead.

Raka needs to be lynched now.

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I never said anything about banging her. Also, I wouldn't bang her. -LusterSoldier (on a fat pageant mom whose daughter chugs Mt. Dew)

Also, Raka... who WAS your favorite Touhou character? Apparently none of us guessed it

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I never said anything about banging her. Also, I wouldn't bang her. -LusterSoldier (on a fat pageant mom whose daughter chugs Mt. Dew)

Are you implying that because I saved Chris, scum couldn't get him and I killed Drakeryn?

oh sorry to clarify, this was Raka from the previous topic. I don't have whatever it is you guys have with the direct quote with post number thing

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I never said anything about banging her. Also, I wouldn't bang her. -LusterSoldier (on a fat pageant mom whose daughter chugs Mt. Dew)

[2] Caelus: Kracko, Ulti
[2] Kracko: (Ulti), Fett, Raka
[1] Raka: Caelus
[0] Regaro: (Caelus)
[0] No Lynch: (Tom), (Anonymous)

yes raka, what do you have to say about Caelus's finely argued points?

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C'mon where are you guys when I need you? >_<

Raka claimed to be someone who would do what I did "if he knew the flavor better" but he knows the flavor well enough to get an obscure joke I made 2 days ago

Raka has been homouring me the whole time about flavors and is full of s*** and is defending me because it is in scum's best interest to keep my newbie ass around and mislynch Kracko.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/61201129/690468474

he gets the obscure Touhou joke!

LYNCH RAKA FOR F***'S SAKE!

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I never said anything about banging her. Also, I wouldn't bang her. -LusterSoldier (on a fat pageant mom whose daughter chugs Mt. Dew)

[Observer Post]

Geez, this is getting painful to read.

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You know what? Caelus has been giving newbie town vibes today, so even though I still suspect him, he's moved down my scum chart.

##Unvote:
##Vote: Raka

You haven't done a single thing all game to give me any sort of town vibes, and haven't been a very good doctor either. Caelus brings up a valid point that Raka just blatantly lied, and lynch all liars. Not to mention a newbie town may be more leery about putting a vote down in a potential do or die scenario (Fett, I'm not as worried about considering his beliefs). Even if I'm mislynched, this guy has to go next, if there is a next. I just don't see him town in any scenario.

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from the previous topic

ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
Also is mystia really much more important than rumia

not really. 2nd boss as opposed to 1st boss. Was a playable character in one game but a ton of characters were playable in that game (Phantasmogoria of Flower View. different style of game than the others).

As for who is scum, I'm leaning toward Kracko at this point. Possibly Death and I honestly wouldn't even rule out Fett even though he seems to prefer lynching Kracko instead of me. I think I might have more confidence and conviction later in the day, depending on how things go...

Depending on how things go. My only chance at a big play was to try and get scum to f*** up. Raka did just that. I wanted my weakness to be preyed upon in the form of defense of me, and Raka provided that and gave himself away by standing up for a vulnerable newbie who was more valuable to scum alive than dead. He agreed with my flavoring and even encouraged it, sticking up for it as if "he would do the same, if he knew Touhou," which he clearly does. As far as I'm concerned, Raka's back is in a corner and he can't get out. If you have to lynch me tonight, he has to be next otherwise we are f***ed (and even if you guys listen to me and lynch him, I might not be alive tomorrow)

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I never said anything about banging her. Also, I wouldn't bang her. -LusterSoldier (on a fat pageant mom whose daughter chugs Mt. Dew)

These two votes don't look suspicious at all <_<

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Reg you're still on my f***ing radar and I guarantee I will flip town. If you aren't scum you better read everything I posted and play close f***ing attention because I don't see how I could be wrong and I guarantee you that you will be next, unless you are town and smarten up when the results come in

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I never said anything about banging her. Also, I wouldn't bang her. -LusterSoldier (on a fat pageant mom whose daughter chugs Mt. Dew)

Hey Reg, are you still butthurt from when I paralysed you night one, because you've tunneled me constantly all game FROM YOUR FIRST POST. If you are town, you really need to look back at your scumhunting abilities.

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Bah... forget it, i'm not creative enough to think of a clever sig, I'll just write this.

Are you mad because I called you out for paragraphs of flavor meta and maybe a couple sentences of not-flavor-meta earlier? That's what it sounds like <_<

Tip: No amount of flavor meta is going to help us at this stage.

Another tip: Top Suspects #1 and #2 voting for the claimed doc who I see little reason to doubt at this juncture doesn't fly well with me.

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If you are town Reg, I would pay so much to see your face when I flip town.

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[2] Kracko: (Ulti), Fett, Raka
[2] Raka: Caelus, Kracko
[1] Caelus: (Kracko), Ulti
[0] Regaro: (Caelus)
[0] No Lynch: (Tom), (Anonymous)

_Regaro_ posted...
Are you mad because I called you out for paragraphs of flavor meta and maybe a couple sentences of not-flavor-meta earlier? That's what it sounds like <_<

Tip: No amount of flavor meta is going to help us at this stage.

Another tip: Top Suspects #1 and #2 voting for the claimed doc who I see little reason to doubt at this juncture doesn't fly well with me.

him f***ing up doesn't fly well with me. He defended me when I "needed" defending because I was oh so helplessly vulnerable. He claimed that if he he was a newbie and actually knew the flavor as well as I do, he would have too. He knows the flavor all too well and everyone will see that. I've been waiting to see how scum handles me since I took over for Jdizzy. You've given yourselves up and you are f***ing done.

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I never said anything about banging her. Also, I wouldn't bang her. -LusterSoldier (on a fat pageant mom whose daughter chugs Mt. Dew)

MajinZidane posted...
yes raka, what do you have to say about Caelus's finely argued points?

oh yeah, and this. What's Raka's answer?

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I never said anything about banging her. Also, I wouldn't bang her. -LusterSoldier (on a fat pageant mom whose daughter chugs Mt. Dew)

regaro, do you now feel more or less interested in KRACKO after the recent events?

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My favourite character is Cirno, town Vanilla. Check the NARES topic.

I know Touhou from IOSYS, the wiki, and playing (untranslated) 10.5, SWR.

What, do you want me to protect scum instead? We're running out of town, and lynching scum > lynching newbie town.

And to be honest, Caelus, your vote for me smells fishy. Boko says something like that and you immediately jumped on to lynch me.

Are you implying that because I saved
Chris, scum couldn't get him and I
killed Drakeryn?
Arti's item saved Chris, and as soon as Chris informed us of this, he was dead.
I don't get your logic here. Why does it make me guilty?

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Ulti, you think I'm town now?

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Flandre's theme song is U.N. Owen Was Her, and people have posted it here in B8. It's not something I'd call obscure.

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