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Tom Bombadil
02/15/12 10:20:00 PM
#251:


good because I don't

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Fett0001
02/15/12 10:20:00 PM
#252:


IF we lynch mafia, we can end up at 2 v 1 v1, which is a town loss. We should look for SK.

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Fett0001
02/15/12 10:21:00 PM
#253:


I think Caelus is our best bet. After reconsidering.

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Tom Bombadil
02/15/12 10:22:00 PM
#254:


well okay then

The question is which of you do I go for. I kinda like both of ya.

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Fett0001
02/15/12 10:22:00 PM
#255:


The only way town can win is to lynch SK, or hope for a cross kill.

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ImTheMacheteGuy
02/15/12 10:23:00 PM
#256:


Fett0001 posted...
From: Mr_Vaga | #246
And yeah, Caelus is pretty much absolved of being part of the SCUM team, I don't see a new guy trying to get his team's Doc lynched to avoid his own lynch.
Oh hai.


If you screw me over after everything I did to target Raka, I will end up looking really good but possibly faced with a loss, which is a concept I'm not happy with. I knew he was f***ing scum and I have not told a single lie. I'm a f***ing newb and I've gone above and beyond... but I'm ready to keep going... I'm not done until I'm done...

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Fett0001
02/15/12 10:26:00 PM
#257:


From: Tom Bombadil | #254
well okay then

The question is which of you do I go for. I kinda like both of ya.


Caelus. You've played with scum me before. This isn't it.

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ImTheMacheteGuy
02/15/12 10:26:00 PM
#258:


Fett0001 posted...
I think Caelus is our best bet. After reconsidering.

Are you seriously thinking I'm SK at this point? I wanted Raka's ass lynched and that did not happened, and yet he's not alive. If I could have made him not alive on my own, I wouldn't have gone through the trouble...

Also, other SK supposed actions would be bulls***. I don't see how you could even suspect me unless you're scum, which I really hope you aren't.

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Tom Bombadil
02/15/12 10:27:00 PM
#259:


It's kinda true, actually.

But Caelus looked so good yesterday :\

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Fett0001
02/15/12 10:28:00 PM
#260:


From: Tom Bombadil | #259
It's kinda true, actually.

But Caelus looked so good yesterday :\


Being good not Mafia is not the same as good town.

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Tom Bombadil
02/15/12 10:29:00 PM
#261:


From: ImTheMacheteGuy | Posted: 2/16/2012 12:26:50 AM | #258Are you seriously thinking I'm SK at this point?


To be fair, look at it from his angle. He's either town or pretending to be town. The two SK candidates are you and him, unless you want to start doubting me or boko or vaga. He knows (or "knows") it's not him sooooo

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ImTheMacheteGuy
02/15/12 10:29:00 PM
#262:


Fett0001 posted...
From: Tom Bombadil | #254
well okay then

The question is which of you do I go for. I kinda like both of ya.
Caelus. You've played with scum me before. This isn't it.


I have NOT PLAYED WITH ANYONE BEFORE. I have not played in any Mafia game. What the f*** are you even talking about man? Did you play me at b8 survivor/big brother? I've played those which are similar but not the same? If you think you've played with me, spit it the f*** out?

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Fett0001
02/15/12 10:31:00 PM
#263:


That was in response to tom:


Parse as "Tom, you should pick Caelus. Since you've played with me before, and you know what town me looks like."

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Tom Bombadil
02/15/12 10:31:00 PM
#264:


basically what I am saying is that at this point it is pretty much you or him for who the SK is

and possibly the other one is maf anyway

so unless one of you wants to go after me or boko or vaga or there's something fett missed with numbers, today pretty much is going to be caelus vs. fett in a cage match

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Tom Bombadil
02/15/12 10:33:00 PM
#265:


so if you are town, fett is not the one you want to convince

the rest of us are

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ImTheMacheteGuy
02/15/12 10:34:00 PM
#266:


Ah okay, so it's you against me then?

Raka defended me when he should not have and he was appropriately burned. I understand. Here's the thing. Raka f***ed up. He defended me. You did too Fett. Not as adamantly, but you wanted Kracko gone instead. near the end of the last topic

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Fett0001
02/15/12 10:34:00 PM
#267:


So here's the thing, Tom. Scum ought to know by now who SK is. Playing cards with hoshi, mor thoughts soon.

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Fett0001
02/15/12 10:35:00 PM
#268:


From: ImTheMacheteGuy | #266
Kracko gone instead.


Due to role meta. If I'd seen the swing towards kracko at end of day, Raka'd have been lynched.

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ImTheMacheteGuy
02/15/12 10:36:00 PM
#269:


Parse as "Tom, you should pick Caelus. Since you've played with me before, and you know what town me looks like."

Says the f***ing guy who knows for a fact (as everyone does) that I have NEVER played before... so yeah there's that argument

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Fett0001
02/15/12 10:37:00 PM
#270:


If scum knows who SK is, they'll prefer him dead too.

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ImTheMacheteGuy
02/15/12 10:37:00 PM
#271:


Fett you really want me gone? What happened man? You were supporting me the other day against Kracko :(

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Tom Bombadil
02/15/12 10:39:00 PM
#272:


From: Fett0001 | Posted: 2/16/2012 12:34:27 AM | #267
Scum ought to know by now who SK is.


Not following you, unless you're claiming scum, which I'm assuming you're not. That leaves Reg/Death/shenanigans? for the scum team, and I don't know how they'd know between the two of you.

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ImTheMacheteGuy
02/15/12 10:39:00 PM
#273:


Fett0001 posted...
If scum knows who SK is, they'll prefer him dead too.

If scum prefers me dead, they'll get their f***ing wish. I'm surprised they haven't already. Maybe my inexperience made me one of those useless players they wanted to keep around? Either way If you f*** me Fett and I flip town, after I lit a fire in Raka's face, you're gonna look like a dickhead taking me out. I'm okay with that. I made my contribution but I know I can do more...

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Fett0001
02/15/12 10:39:00 PM
#274:


From: ImTheMacheteGuy | #271
Fett you really want me gone? What happened man? You were supporting me the other day against Kracko :(


Yep. It's nothing personal. I play to win. Kracko was a better choice than you, based on my gut, and the info I had.

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ImTheMacheteGuy
02/15/12 10:41:00 PM
#275:


Fett0001 posted...
From: ImTheMacheteGuy | #271
Fett you really want me gone? What happened man? You were supporting me the other day against Kracko :(
Yep. It's nothing personal. I play to win. Kracko was a better choice than you, based on my gut, and the info I had.


Kracko was a better choice than me? What changed? If you like Kracko better, vote Kracko.

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Fett0001
02/15/12 10:42:00 PM
#276:


From: Tom Bombadil | #272
Not following you, unless you're claiming scum, which I'm assuming you're not. That leaves Reg/Death/shenanigans? for the scum team, and I don't know how they'd know between the two of you.




I'm guessing they tried to kill him on one of the nights with fewer kills.. They have more info than us.

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Fett0001
02/15/12 10:44:00 PM
#277:


From: ImTheMacheteGuy | #275
Kracko was a better choice than me? What changed? If you like Kracko better, vote Kracko.


He's dead, Jim.

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Fett0001
02/15/12 10:48:00 PM
#278:


From: Fett0001 | #277
He's dead, Jim.


Parse as "We lynched that guy yesterday."

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ImTheMacheteGuy
02/15/12 10:50:00 PM
#279:


You're doing a really good job of getting my vote and I do not want to give you my vote.

##Vote: Reg

Hopefully I will be back on early for more developments, as I would like to see some new developments

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Tom Bombadil
02/15/12 10:52:00 PM
#280:


don't friggin' vote reg

we need an SK lynch and Reg can't be SK

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Tom Bombadil
02/15/12 10:57:00 PM
#281:


I will break it down for you.

We're assuming 4 town, 1 SK, and 2 mafia (4/1/2), because that is the most likely state of the game at this point.

If we lynch a mafia, that makes it 4/1/1 going into night. Both mafia and SK will get a kill. If both of those kills hit town, that makes it 2/1/1 going into day, and then town is essentially in a no-win situation, unless they can convince the scum to crosskill after a no lynch.

If we lynch the SK, that makes it just 4/2. Scum will knock us down to 3/2, meaning we have to get two lynches in a row right to win, but there's also no way we auto-lose, either.

There's a very real chance we lose on a mafia lynch here. Not a HUGE one, but big enough that we want to hit the SK instead to be safe.

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Tom Bombadil
02/15/12 10:58:00 PM
#282:


granted, lynching mafia also opens up the possibility we get lucky and maf and SK shoot each other and we auto-win

but still

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Fett0001
02/15/12 10:59:00 PM
#283:


Well, he just claimed SK. Nice.

Don't leave just yet.


If you're town, and we lynch scum:

4 town | 2 scum| 1 sk

goes to :

4 town |1 scum | 1 sk

That probably goes to:

2 town| 1 scum | 1 SK

Especially if SK is BP.

Town loses in that situation.
____________________


If we lynch town, town knows that's bad.

Moving on

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If town lynches SK:

4 town | 2 Mafia

Day starts at 3 V 2. Town will know who to kill.


If you're town, you want to kill the SK.

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Fett0001
02/15/12 10:59:00 PM
#284:


##vote: Caelus

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Tom Bombadil
02/15/12 10:59:00 PM
#285:


owned

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Dark_Spiral
02/15/12 11:00:00 PM
#286:


He's dead, Jim.


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ImTheMacheteGuy
02/15/12 11:01:00 PM
#287:


Tom Bombadil posted...
don't friggin' vote reg

we need an SK lynch and Reg can't be SK


Well Tom I'm not gonna lie... on a bit of a high horse now and while I wouldn't want to admit it, it is what it is and I feel f***ing amazing for outing Raka. I'll be passing out soon but my mind isn't made up.

##Unvote

Reg can't be SK? What about scum? I won't be around until later tomorrow but I'll keep up. Be wary about people trying to label me SK. I've made my impact so far and I feel like I can legimately help town take this. Please do not lose faith in me now.

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Tom Bombadil
02/15/12 11:03:00 PM
#288:


Reg can be mafia, and probably is, especially if you're town. But, like Fett and I said, a mafia lynch has a very real chance of losing us the game. It's counter-intuitive, but that's how SK endgames go sometimes. >_>

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ImTheMacheteGuy
02/15/12 11:04:00 PM
#289:


wtf really Fett? I did not claim SK.

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Tom Bombadil
02/15/12 11:05:00 PM
#290:


well if you're town or even mafia you should be hunting SK right now

voting reg is not hunting SK

so

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Fett0001
02/15/12 11:08:00 PM
#291:


here's the thing. I think you've played an excellent game so far. It's a shame that you have to die, so that town can win.

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Fett0001
02/15/12 11:11:00 PM
#292:


New list:

People I won't lynch:

Death
Regaro
Me
Boko
Vaka
_______

People I could lynch

Caelus
Tombo

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ImTheMacheteGuy
02/15/12 11:11:00 PM
#293:


I'm not SK and I have food cooking. If you guys lynch me before I get home from work tomorrow when I can plead my case, I would have to assume town is f***ed. I had Raka and he got stolen from me. I don't fully know how SK works, but if I'm a suspect now, someone's playing me. You f***ing better give me a chance after I get home from work tomorrow or we will lose. I'm passing out as a drunken vanilla townie and if you guys f*** me, you'll find out I'm exactly that.

Scum don't wanna keep me safe anymore but they don't wanna off me either... "let the SK take care of him or something..." *shrugs* you'll see....

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Tom Bombadil
02/15/12 11:11:00 PM
#294:


yeah really

game aside, you've done admirably for a newcomer, especially one thrust into endgame like this

stick around and learn to think like a maf player and you could have quite a bit of potential

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Fett0001
02/15/12 11:12:00 PM
#295:


I hope you realize that if I were SK, I'd not have mentioned this. And we'd have lynched Reg. and I'd have won.

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Fett0001
02/15/12 11:15:00 PM
#296:


From: ImTheMacheteGuy | #293
I'm not SK and I have food cooking. If you guys lynch me before I get home from work tomorrow when I can plead my case, I would have to assume town is f***ed. I had Raka and he got stolen from me. I don't fully know how SK works, but if I'm a suspect now, someone's playing me. You f***ing better give me a chance after I get home from work tomorrow or we will lose. I'm passing out as a drunken vanilla townie and if you guys f*** me, you'll find out I'm exactly that.

Scum don't wanna keep me safe anymore but they don't wanna off me either... "let the SK take care of him or something..." *shrugs* you'll see....




Not that you need to be informed, but here goes:

SK is its own faction, that wins when everyone else is dead. They must kill every night. Typically they are bulletproof (can't be killed at night).

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Tom Bombadil
02/15/12 11:16:00 PM
#297:


4/1/1 isn't all that great for SK though, especially if they have info like you propose.

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Fett0001
02/15/12 11:17:00 PM
#298:


From: Tom Bombadil | #297
4/1/1 isn't all that great for SK though, especially if they have info like you propose.


IF he's BP, SK doesn't care. He's like the f***ing honey badger.

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Tom Bombadil
02/15/12 11:17:00 PM
#299:


To elaborate:
-There is only 1 SK >_>
-The "have to kill" thing is important. It's why Reg and Death can't be SK- they've been seen not targeting anybody.

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Tom Bombadil
02/15/12 11:18:00 PM
#300:


From: Fett0001 | Posted: 2/16/2012 1:17:16 AM | #298
IF he's BP, SK doesn't care. He's like the f***ing honey badger.


Mm, true, but you're still susceptible to lynch.

You get not-SK points, but not QUITE enough that I auto-lynch Caelus.

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