Board 8 > Would Board 8 be interested in a Dynasty Warriors character ranking topic?

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MonkClive0
02/17/12 4:57:00 PM
#1:


I'd be extremely interested

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DpObliVion
02/17/12 4:57:00 PM
#2:


Yes


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Weakupedia
02/17/12 4:57:00 PM
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I've been pretty bored these days! I guess it would be something along the lines of rankings within each kingdom (Wei, Shu, Wu, Jin, Other) finished off by an overall Top 10.

I guess a short writeup for each character and possibly a mini-ranking of each character's costumes (DW3-7 plus DLC), though it is kind of a hassle to find pictures of some of the DLC outfits.

It would be based off the cast thus far in Dynasty Warriors 7XL, so those two random characters in DW3 won't be included.

Gauging interest, since I'd rather not start this project only to have HM pop in now and then with something like "Zhou Tai the best" and disappear!

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_Zea_
02/17/12 4:59:00 PM
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I'll be pissed if Meng Huo isn't high up

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VitalVI
02/17/12 5:00:00 PM
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Lu Bu > All
Oh i thought we were talking strength wise.

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Tornadoman78
02/17/12 5:01:00 PM
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sun shang xiang my favortie of the game

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Raka_Putra
02/17/12 5:07:00 PM
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Aw yeah ertyu. She is my favourite too. I'll be disappointed if she doesn't end up at, like, Top 10.

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Weakupedia
02/17/12 5:30:00 PM
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I guess I'll start making rankings and stuff tonight!

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Blairville
02/17/12 5:34:00 PM
#9:


Xiahou Dun is top tier for sure!

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Weakupedia
02/17/12 7:13:00 PM
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you guys better read this whenever I do it!

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KJH
02/17/12 7:16:00 PM
#11:


Coincidentally, since that one RotTK create a character topic, I decided to replay DW7 from scratch. So I'd totally be interested!

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GANON1025
02/17/12 7:20:00 PM
#12:


no

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hideto
02/17/12 7:26:00 PM
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Lu Xun has been my favorite. He may not be an unfeeling merciless overpowered instant death machine like he once was, but now he is a man of finesse...with feathers in his hair sometimes.

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KJH
02/17/12 7:29:00 PM
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Lu Xun gets points docked against him instantly for being one of the major guys involved in killing Guan Yu. And he wasn't THAT great in the first place thanks to being a kinda boring tactician! Certainly didn't know how to make a plan as entertaining as Cao Cao, Pang Tong, Zhuge Liang, or any of the Sima's.

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Weakupedia
02/17/12 7:32:00 PM
#15:


lu xun more like who xun

I remember him being kind of a big deal in dw3 but he's barely even mentioned in 7!

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Weakupedia
02/17/12 7:33:00 PM
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also I'm not the most well-versed in the actual texts, though I have just started reading the novel at www.threekingdoms.com!

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KJH
02/17/12 7:37:00 PM
#17:


Yeah I've pieced together stuff from random DW, Dynasty Tactics, and like 2 RotTK games. To be fair though, DW7's quizzes got me all sorts of useless knowledge about it.

And also made Liu Bei even more laughable.

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hideto
02/17/12 7:37:00 PM
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Oh wait, you're basing this off only 7 and not within the series as a whole? While story mode was the best in that one, it loses major points for having the c*** tease of being released on 360 and then decided not to release Xtreme Legends for the console. Bad form, Koei.

EDIT: Also Guan Yu is a pompous ass and deserved his death.

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Weakupedia
02/17/12 7:38:00 PM
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I've only played 3 and 7 so this will by no means take the entire series into account. I have 6 on my pc though! I've been meaning to check it out, but eh.

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hideto
02/17/12 7:39:00 PM
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The novel is fun, but you can obviously see that both the author and later editors had agendas in mind when writing it. There is a huge Shu bias, while casting Wei as the villains and marginalizing the best kingdom, Wu.

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DpObliVion
02/17/12 7:44:00 PM
#21:


Dian Wei was the greatest.


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KJH
02/17/12 7:48:00 PM
#22:


6 is really, really bad.

Like, 6 Empires kinda salvages it by being more fun (especially multiplayer), but 6 was a chore. Granted, 6 also influences my opinion of Liu Bei because almost EVERY shu officer's musou campaign revolves every map around making sure a suicidal, weak NPC Liu Bei does not kill himself as he moves around the map into enemies nonstop.

Seeing him on a map as a shu officer is a sense of dread even worse than Lu Bu appearing as an enemy.

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The Mana Sword
02/17/12 7:50:00 PM
#23:


Wang yuanji #1

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TheArkOfTurus
02/17/12 8:36:00 PM
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I'd read it, but probably wouldn't reply outside of a tag!

Except for maybe a Zhou Tai the best post.

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WazzupGenius00
02/17/12 8:41:00 PM
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you've only played 3 and 6?

not sure if you're qualified for a ranking then tbqh!

Gotta play through 5 first and then you're good to go

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Weakupedia
02/17/12 8:44:00 PM
#26:


3 and 7 get it right

and i could play 5, but i'm too lazy to hook up my ps2 and also dw7's pretty graphics have spoiled me

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KJH
02/17/12 9:03:00 PM
#27:


Bleh, what's with all the Wu fans? Or at least, non-Huang Gai Wu fans.

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hideto
02/17/12 9:10:00 PM
#28:


Huang Gai is awesome, he's just too slow for me in the game. The dude volunteered to get flogged in public so he could realistically feign defection. Then he steered his "defection" boat full of explosives into a giant fleet while he jumped and swam off like a boss

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KJH
02/17/12 9:18:00 PM
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From what I hear, he did that naked too.

And in DW7, he uses a huge four pronged boat anchor as a weapon and his musou attacks are all ridiculous wrestling moves. Total badass.

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Weakupedia
02/17/12 9:49:00 PM
#30:


Alright, here's what I'll do:

As of now, I know barely anything about what actually happened, both in reality and in the novel--nearly all of my Three Kingdoms knowledge is based on some DW3 however many years ago and DW7/XL. Based on that knowledge, I will post rough rankings for each kingdom. No write ups or anything. Those rankings will be based entirely on how the games (again, some DW3 and mostly DW7) portrayed each character, mixed with some personal bias (which will be very evident from my #1 spot for Wei). As all of you go through your turns calling me and my lists stupid, I'll be reading up on some actual history for each character (provided they aren't fictional or completely useless outside of the game; I'm looking at you, Bao Sanniang), I will rerank the cast and post the new rankings one or two characters at a time. Things could change drastically, or they might stay mostly the same. Who knows.

I figure doing things this way will provide me with some motivation to actually do some looking up about the DW characters and the Three Kingdoms era.

I'm pretty excited to learn some crazy new details! For instance, I had no idea Huang Gai went through so much just to trick Wei!

How's that sound? Completely stupid? Good!

If anyone has any particularly good sites for what I hope to accomplish, it would be most appreciated!

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Weakupedia
02/17/12 10:30:00 PM
#31:


bump for the night

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pyro_bunta
02/17/12 10:43:00 PM
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Xiahou Dun should be the best.

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Tornadoman78
02/18/12 8:26:00 AM
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here i show you pic i did of her too

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Weakupedia
02/18/12 9:37:00 AM
#34:


morning bump!

any input would be appreciated

also, a preview ranking:

Wu
Huang Gai
Zhou Tai
Sun Jian
Sun Shang Xiang
Zhou Yu
Sun Ce
Lian Shi
Lu Xun
Gan Ning
Taishi Ci
Ling Tong
Xiao Qiao
Lu Meng
Da Qiao
Sun Quan
Ding Feng

The divider is a cut-off line between characters I like and characters that are kind of whatever.

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Weakupedia
02/18/12 10:58:00 AM
#35:


i knew it >_>

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XxSoulxX
02/18/12 11:58:00 AM
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Wu
Huang Gai
Zhou Tai
Sun Jian
Sun Shang Xiang
Zhou Yu
Sun Ce
Lian Shi
Lu Xun
Gan Ning
Taishi Ci
Ling Tong
Xiao Qiao
Lu Meng
Da Qiao
Sun Quan
Ding Feng

The divider is a cut-off line between characters I like and characters that are kind of whatever.


Ew no. Lian Shi should not be on a "liked" list, and definitely not above the Three Kingdoms MVP Gan Ning!

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most_games_r_ok
02/18/12 11:59:00 AM
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Lu Bu better have top spot

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Weakupedia
02/18/12 12:10:00 PM
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XxSoulxX posted...
Wu
Huang Gai
Zhou Tai
Sun Jian
Sun Shang Xiang
Zhou Yu
Sun Ce
Lian Shi
Lu Xun
Gan Ning
Taishi Ci
Ling Tong
Xiao Qiao
Lu Meng
Da Qiao
Sun Quan
Ding Feng

The divider is a cut-off line between characters I like and characters that are kind of whatever.

Ew no. Lian Shi should not be on a "liked" list, and definitely not above the Three Kingdoms MVP Gan Ning!


gan ning more like whatever

but again, things may change as i read up on the text!

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Weakupedia
02/18/12 12:12:00 PM
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XxSoulxX
02/18/12 12:20:00 PM
#40:


Lian Shi doesn't even exist. She was put into the seventh game to add another female filler character.

EDIT: Sorry, she does exist, but not as a bodyguard or fighter. She is more useless then the Qiao sisters.

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Weakupedia
02/18/12 12:23:00 PM
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Well, like I said, these initial rankings are almost entirely based on DW7 and 7XL!

Modified rankings are forthcoming.

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KJH
02/18/12 4:16:00 PM
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As a heads up, be prepared to be incredibly disappointed by historical Zhao Yun and Xiahou Dun after how hyped they are in the DW games.

And as a funny sidestory, you remember Zhao Yun saving Liu Shan that one time? From what I remember, the book says Liu Bei showed he cared more about Zhao Yun's life that he risked than Liu Shan by throwing Liu Shan to the ground.

So, if you ever needed a reason to know why Liu Shan's almost historically considered "special", there you go! Also shows what a great benevolent father Liu Bei was, throwing his baby to the ground.

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pyro_bunta
02/18/12 7:15:00 PM
#43:


Tornadoman78 posted...
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At least you got the pose right. But that face man...

It's like she's screaming, "why am I holding these!?"

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most_games_r_ok
02/19/12 4:49:00 PM
#44:


bump

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