Board 8 > Oh boy oh boy, who's ready for more on-disk DLC drama? (SFxT)

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PrivateBiscuit1
03/04/12 5:41:00 PM
#101:


Yeah, but for PR he's seriously terrible. I mean, he legitimately lies about stuff constantly.

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SSJSephirothGokuX123
03/04/12 5:43:00 PM
#102:


At least he admits he's a troll and his mistakes, people like Niistuma lie about stuff just to piss you off.

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Weakupedia
03/04/12 5:47:00 PM
#103:


http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2012/mar/04/leaked-gameplay-footage-elena-console-version-street-fighter-x-tekken/

welp

i mean, there's still a good chance that these characters are unbalanced (some of elena's moves seemed to whiff and clip and stuff), but yeah. bad for capcom PR

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Rad Link 5
03/04/12 6:19:00 PM
#104:


That guy's just a hacker. Notice how she's Poison on the character select screen? Hackers replace characters in Smash Bros. Brawl all the time. But keep hating, I'm gonna be enjoying my awesome game.

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polankerboy
03/04/12 7:13:00 PM
#105:


I'm glad I don't buy games from CrapCom anymore.

...Only Ace Attorney games lol

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TheKoolAidShoto
03/04/12 7:20:00 PM
#106:


That guy's just a hacker. Notice how she's Poison on the character select screen? Hackers replace characters in Smash Bros. Brawl all the time. But keep hating, I'm gonna be enjoying my awesome game.

Now see, this is almost as bad as the DLC waaah waaah people. Yeah, hackers created an entire character with super arts, complex animations, profile artwork, profile model, before the game even came out. Not to mention the endings on the disk, guess those hackers made that one too.

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TheArkOfTurus
03/04/12 7:21:00 PM
#107:


From: TheKoolAidShoto | #106
Now see, this is almost as bad as the DLC waaah waaah people. Yeah, hackers created an entire character with super arts, complex animations, profile artwork, profile model, before the game even came out. Not to mention the endings on the disk, guess those hackers made that one too.


As someone who believes that 99% of DLC is perfectly acceptable, even if I don't personally like it...

No, it really isn't. That's so much dumber.

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Seisen_Kitsune
03/04/12 7:21:00 PM
#108:


Love how Capcom's response is to just ban the videos, as though preventing people from seeing how complete the characters are is somehow going to do them any favors.

Also, there's a Cody/Guy (with alt costumes) vid now as well.

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TheKoolAidShoto
03/04/12 7:25:00 PM
#109:


I meant to say just as bad, but yeah, this is isn't even semi-justifiable. This is just...shut the f*** up

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Rad Link 5
03/04/12 7:33:00 PM
#110:


From: TheKoolAidShoto | #106
Now see, this is almost as bad as the DLC waaah waaah people. Yeah, hackers created an entire character with super arts, complex animations, profile artwork, profile model, before the game even came out. Not to mention the endings on the disk, guess those hackers made that one too.


I assumed it was someone trolling or parodying or something. No one can be that stupid.

Well maybe not no one, but still.

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TheKoolAidShoto
03/04/12 7:47:00 PM
#111:




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skull_bonek23
03/04/12 7:47:00 PM
#112:


Well at least I only paid 45 I guess

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PrivateBiscuit1
03/04/12 7:50:00 PM
#113:


Wtf is with Bryan Fury? O.o

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TheKoolAidShoto
03/04/12 7:55:00 PM
#114:


Bryan Fury got some long ass arms, looks like a big monkey

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TheArkOfTurus
03/04/12 7:56:00 PM
#115:


From: PrivateBiscuit1 | #113
Wtf is with Bryan Fury? O.o


Yeah, I really hope that isn't what finished Bryan ends up looking/playing like.

On the other hand, Lei might work as a Gen replacement. I have no idea who I'll use outside of Rolento, so that could be nice!

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PrivateBiscuit1
03/04/12 8:00:00 PM
#116:


From: TheKoolAidShoto | #114
Bryan Fury got some long ass arms, looks like a big monkey


I immediately thought:

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TheKoolAidShoto
03/04/12 8:02:00 PM
#117:


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for proper comparison. WTF Ono!

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SSJSephirothGokuX123
03/04/12 9:29:00 PM
#120:


Lars in all his stupid anime hair glory.



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Rad Link 5
03/04/12 10:07:00 PM
#121:


So uh

God damn, how many finished characters are on this disc as DLC?

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OmarsComin
03/04/12 10:13:00 PM
#122:


If they were like "we made all these extra characters but it requires us to price the game at $70" I'd be cool with that. Having characters (which are the main meat of SF games) as DLC just feels bad. And that they're making **** up pretending that they're still working on these characters is pretty lame.

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SSJSephirothGokuX123
03/04/12 10:14:00 PM
#123:


Pretty much all of them, we haven't see Dudley, Christie, Jack and Alisa gameplay yet through.

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OmarsComin
03/04/12 10:15:00 PM
#124:


And these characters are supposedly Vita exclusive, right? And the Vita version is coming out later? Does that mean the characters come free with the Vita version and you pay for them on the other two consoles, or that they're going to hold off on releasing them on console until after the Vita version?

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SSJSephirothGokuX123
03/04/12 10:17:00 PM
#125:


I think at the launch party a few days ago Seth Killian said the Vita will have them first and the rest will be DLC.

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Seisen_Kitsune
03/04/12 10:18:00 PM
#126:


Should be free for Vita. No word on consoles. Everyone's quite sure Capcom's going to charge a lot, but they're not commenting on it.

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skull_bonek23
03/04/12 10:20:00 PM
#127:


I bet that Sony made them offer exclusive characters for the Vita version but they were allowed to be released as DLC later. Considering all of the Sony exclusives, I wouldn't be surprised if this were the case. Capcom makes the 12 extra characters for Vita but can't release them on consoles because they're supposed to be exclusive so they put them on the disk (so that everyone can still play together regardless of whether or not you have the DLC) to release later.

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SSJSephirothGokuX123
03/05/12 1:12:00 AM
#128:


Alisa gameplay.



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SSJSephirothGokuX123
03/05/12 1:59:00 AM
#129:


Jack, Sakura and Dudley

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TheArkOfTurus
03/05/12 1:33:00 PM
#130:


http://www.capcom-unity.com/brelston/blog/2012/03/05/street_fighter_x_tekken:_12_new_characters_coming_to_consoles,_pc_this_fall

Capcom "addresses" why the content is on-disc. Of course, they don't say anything about how complete these characters are, which leads me to believe the answer to that is, at the very least, "mostly."

Sucks, but it's their game, so I suppose they can charge what they like for it. The product is still worth the money to me, even if giving the money to Capcom leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

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redrocket
03/05/12 2:02:00 PM
#131:


TheArkOfTurus posted...
http://www.capcom-unity.com/brelston/blog/2012/03/05/street_fighter_x_tekken:_12_new_characters_coming_to_consoles,_pc_this_fall

Capcom "addresses" why the content is on-disc. Of course, they don't say anything about how complete these characters are, which leads me to believe the answer to that is, at the very least, "mostly."

Sucks, but it's their game, so I suppose they can charge what they like for it. The product is still worth the money to me, even if giving the money to Capcom leaves a bad taste in my mouth.


I would say you are part of the problem, but that's wrong. You are the problem.

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SSJSephirothGokuX123
03/05/12 2:06:00 PM
#132:


Comment Number 3.

Yeah, you know what's funny about that? SSFIV: AE was DLC and the four characters that were added... weren't on the frickin' disc. Seriously, what in the hell is the point of waiting, if you're gonna be greedy and charge people for content that was already finished, just do it NOW.

Shot yerself in the foot there Capcom.

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TheArkOfTurus
03/05/12 3:13:00 PM
#133:


From: redrocket | #131
I would say you are part of the problem, but that's wrong. You are the problem.


And I'm okay with that. If I were going to rage against corporations doing shady **** to grab extra money out of consumers, there are so many more egregious examples I could choose. That's capitalism for you.

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YetAnothrShadow
03/05/12 4:10:00 PM
#134:


Capitalism also gives power to the consumer. To speak with their money.

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JDTAY
03/05/12 4:22:00 PM
#135:


I don't really have a problem with people charging extra for access to more of their intellectual property, even if it's already on the disc, but I think they need to find another name for it than downloadable content. Maybe just "premium content"?

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paulg235
03/05/12 4:23:00 PM
#136:


More gamplay involving Sakura, Alisa, Lars, and Bryan.



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Luis_Sera89
03/05/12 4:29:00 PM
#137:


Capcom has confirmed that 12 new fan-favorite characters... Blanka, Cody, Dudley...

Uhhh...

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Lord Ephraim
03/05/12 4:41:00 PM
#138:


What else did you expect when you combine the two most nickel and dime companies - Capcom and Namco - to make another barebones fighting game?

Saw this coming a mile away.

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WazzupGenius00
03/05/12 5:02:00 PM
#140:


From: Lord Ephraim | #138
What else did you expect when you combine the two most nickel and dime companies - Capcom and Namco - to make another barebones fighting game?

Saw this coming a mile away.


40 characters before DLC

SO barebones.

and lolBlanka, but hey, it could be worse, like Necro or Twelve

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Rad Link 5
03/05/12 5:03:00 PM
#141:


I can't really think of any instances of Namco being too bad with nickel and diming. Most of their "premium content" is Tales costumes.

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KJH
03/05/12 5:07:00 PM
#142:


Necro or Twelve are a lot more interesting than Blanka. And less annoying.

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WazzupGenius00
03/05/12 5:10:00 PM
#143:


Necro more interesting, sure, but interesting =/= better. Twelve? Literally the blandest, most forgettable character in the entire series.

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TheArkOfTurus
03/05/12 5:15:00 PM
#144:


From: WazzupGenius00 | #143
Twelve? Literally the blandest, most forgettable character in the entire series.


Are we counting SF1 only characters here? Because I think a few of them have a much stronger argument, there!

Also, weren't the Star Wars characters in SC4 on-disc DLC? That would be one instance of nickel and diming.

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OmarsComin
03/05/12 5:26:00 PM
#145:


Blanka is a boss.

LOL

Necro or Twelve are a lot more interesting than Blanka. And less annoying.

Nothing in the series is more annoying then Twelve. Blanka is a reasonable second, though!

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Rad Link 5
03/05/12 5:28:00 PM
#146:


The Star Wars characters were console exclusive, Yoda on 360 and Vader on PS3. Then way later, they released Yoda as DLC on the PS3 and Vader on the 360. I'm not sure if either was on-disc, but that's still pretty nickel-and-dimey. The only thing is that it ended up being inconsequential since no one in the fighting game community was allowing the Star Wars characters anyway, and I'm not even sure that changed after they were released as DLC.

But yeah, that's the only instance of characters as "premium content" from Tecmo that I'm aware of.

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PrivateBiscuit1
03/05/12 5:30:00 PM
#147:


If Capcom were smart, they'd release these guys really soon, then start working on another batch of DLC characters and release them in the fall and possibly put them in a pack deal where you can get them a bit cheaper.

According to statistics, DLC sales drop by 90% a month after release. So I don't understand what Capcom hopes to achieve from saving these characters for months.

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Rad Link 5
03/05/12 5:31:00 PM
#148:


Someone brought up the idea that Sony paid them to make these "Vita-exclusive" characters that couldn't be released on consoles until a later date, which makes sense.

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WazzupGenius00
03/05/12 5:36:00 PM
#149:


That's likely what happened with Mega Man and Pac-Man, too, since they've been found on the 360 disc. A timed exclusive.

From: PrivateBiscuit1 | #147According to statistics, DLC sales drop by 90% a month after release. So I don't understand what Capcom hopes to achieve from saving these characters for months.


Based on the way their comments on it were worded, I have a feeling it's going to be one big pack that you buy rather than piecemeal, which they may even market as an "upgrade" to the game. That might help the sales be stronger than if it were the usual way of just buying what you want.

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Biolizard28
03/05/12 9:29:00 PM
#150:


From: JDTAY | #135
I don't really have a problem with people charging extra for access to more of their intellectual property, even if it's already on the disc, but I think they need to find another name for it than downloadable content. Maybe just "premium content"?


Yes, because giving it a name totally justifies locking content away from your customers when it's literally right in front of their faces.

It really is sad that this is where we're at in the industry. When a finished game has pieces cut out of it specifically to sell the pieces back to the public for what they pretend is a reasonable price. This type of thing makes literally no sense, and if you brought this idea up 10 years ago, people would think you were f***ing crazy.

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