Board 8 > hey my city has a transvestite issue up for voting

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OmarsComin
03/29/12 9:30:00 AM
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well presumably

this commercial is the first I've heard of this prop



I should probably go check prop 5 and find out what it actually says

anyway oh man, all sorts of gender identity issues lately. I guess it's good that my city has one too?

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OmarsComin
03/29/12 9:34:00 AM
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here we go

On April 3, Anchorage residents will vote on a proposed ordinance to add "sexual orientation or transgender identity" to the city's anti-discrimination code.

Supporters say the ordinance, and the equal protection under law it would guarantee, is overdue.

Opponents say Proposition 5 would interfere with freedom of religion.

If it passes, legal experts say, expect to see court challenges -- part of a larger, nationwide struggle playing out in courts to balance equal protection and religious freedom.

Anti-discrimination laws like the Anchorage Equal Rights Ordinance bring up legal gray areas still being shaped by court decisions, said veteran Anchorage employment attorney Thomas Daniel, who is not affiliated with either side of the debate.


there we go

but who is thinking of the daycares

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saveus_Maria
03/29/12 9:35:00 AM
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From: OmarsComin | #002
Opponents say Proposition 5 would interfere with freedom of religion.


XFD

which religion is it again that says they are required to discriminate against people with gender identity issues

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SlymDayspring
03/29/12 9:37:00 AM
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lol people that think your freedom to choose a religion means that you are free to ignore the law

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DeepsPraw
03/29/12 9:38:00 AM
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Holy s*** is that ad terrible.

Employers have the right to have some sort of dress code, so if this transvestite is just some deviant man, they aren't being forced to allow him to show up in drag.

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paperwarior
03/29/12 9:39:00 AM
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I like the hanging "Anchorage is already a tolerant city" statement. As if that justifies intolerance.

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StifledSilence
03/29/12 9:39:00 AM
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saveus_Maria posted...
From: OmarsComin | #002
Opponents say Proposition 5 would interfere with freedom of religion.
XFD

which religion is it again that says they are required to discriminate against people with gender identity issues



Catholic, of course!

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OmarsComin
03/29/12 9:40:00 AM
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my favorite part of the commercial is how they suggest that it will be literally illegal to not give a job to someone once you find out they are transgender

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DeepsPraw
03/29/12 9:40:00 AM
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Oh so the law doesn't even mention transvestites, it's just the horrible f***s behind the commercial.

Imagine if it was a black person, and the commercial said "It will be illegal for Carol to refuse a job to a n*****" and showed a cartoonish racist parody.

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saveus_Maria
03/29/12 9:41:00 AM
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this law against murder and cannibalism interferes with my freedom of religion since my god tells me that I need to kill people and eat them to survive

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Dark Young Link
03/29/12 9:59:00 AM
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Wait... illegal to refuse?

As in "I won't hire you because you're a transvestite."?

or

"I didn't hire the transvestite because another person was more qualified."?


Because there's nothing wrong with the second one. That said "We're already tolerant enough" makes it sound a lot like "We put up with these other people, you want us to tolerate transvestites too?!"

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paperwarior
03/29/12 10:09:00 AM
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It's the former but they're trying to make it sound like the latter.

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Phoenix Wright
03/29/12 10:10:00 AM
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I think Dark Young Link has just encountered his first political ad.

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DeepsPraw
03/29/12 1:49:00 PM
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HeroicGammaRay
03/29/12 1:52:00 PM
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amazing
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DeepsPraw
03/29/12 1:56:00 PM
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Transvestite isn't event the right word to use.

Transvestite = male cross-dresser
Transgendered = female with wrong body.

The difference is one is male and one is female.

Neither should be discriminated against and the law isn't forcing employers to let their employees wear drag in the workplace.

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Kinglicious
03/29/12 2:04:00 PM
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Man, didn't we just get through the difference of sex and gender here. This will be fun to watch on a much greater scale.

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