http://www.vg247.com/2012/04/02/xbox-720-detailed-blu-ray-inside-always-on-netcon-required/
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Ayuyu 04/02/12 8:46:00 AM #1: |
http://www.vg247.com/2012/04/02/xbox-720-detailed-blu-ray-inside-always-on-netcon-required/
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pjbasis 04/02/12 8:51:00 AM #2: |
So they confirmed release for next year, but they also confirmed they are not going to say anything about this until next year?
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Mershaaay 04/02/12 8:52:00 AM #3: |
It just has to be online, or is this like sony's stupid "no used games" mandate?
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SubDeity 04/02/12 8:53:00 AM #4: |
Man these new consoles are bull****. Skipping next gen probably unless Nintendo's system rules.
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masterplum 04/02/12 8:54:00 AM #5: |
always online is understandable in this day and age, assuming you can transfer used games.
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Ayuyu 04/02/12 8:54:00 AM #6: |
From: SubDeity | #004 Well at least you don't need to be online at all time with the WiiU! -- http://img.imgcake.com/cosplaygifer.gif http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TORtanic ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Mana Sword 04/02/12 8:55:00 AM #7: |
time to get OUTRAGED about unconfirmed rumors
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Iamdead7 04/02/12 8:55:00 AM #8: |
Watch it not come with a built in wireless adapter
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swordz9 04/02/12 8:57:00 AM #9: |
Is this confirmed or rumored?
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SlymDayspring 04/02/12 9:00:00 AM #10: |
has there actually been a single confirmed thing about next gen at all
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GuessMyUserName 04/02/12 9:03:00 AM #11: |
From: SlymDayspring | Posted: 4/2/2012 12:00:58 PM | #010 the Wii U has a pad and it's white that's about everything we know about the next generation -- http://img.imgcake.com/GuessMyUserName/fukkiretagifzy.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Aecioo 04/02/12 9:03:00 AM #12: |
SlymDayspring posted...
has there actually been a single confirmed thing about next gen at all Microsoft, Sony, and Nintendo will be releasing next gen consoles sometime in the next generation. that's about it -- http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lcb35gGx0t1qailr4o1_500.gif http://www.megavideo.com/?v=57N0YAEJ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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__Smurf__ 04/02/12 9:03:00 AM #13: |
No intention of ever buying an xbox so they can do as they please with it.
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SlymDayspring 04/02/12 9:04:00 AM #14: |
thank you users who are not awful and do not wear swishy pants
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Naomi_Diamond 04/02/12 9:05:00 AM #15: |
youre welcome
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GuessMyUserName 04/02/12 9:05:00 AM #16: |
although we don't know if the console will still be named "Wii U", since there are reports of a name change
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SlymDayspring 04/02/12 9:08:00 AM #17: |
I do not believe that for a second. Now excuse me while I go play my dolphin and revolution.
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ExThaNemesis 04/02/12 9:09:00 AM #18: |
This just in guys next gen's systems will forcefully penetrate your female family members.
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OmarsComin 04/02/12 9:15:00 AM #19: |
in my experience only the bad rumors usually end up being true
so "console requires always online" will be true but "wii VC will have all snes and genesis games" is not -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npHDxSvwCE0 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MrGreenonion 04/02/12 9:17:00 AM #20: |
From: ExThaNemesis | #018 what will it do to your male family members this could be a dealbreaker -- SuperNiceDog didn't have to reconcile his name... But Dauntless Hunter is now MrGreenonion ... Copied to Clipboard!
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foolm0ron 04/02/12 9:18:00 AM #21: |
Can't wait until E3
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GranzonEx 04/02/12 9:20:00 AM #22: |
I really don't see a problem with this. Are some of you using dialup or something?
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PrivateBiscuit1 04/02/12 9:23:00 AM #23: |
Wait, VG 24/7 said it!?
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Menji76 04/02/12 9:26:00 AM #24: |
Why would Sony let the Xbox have Blu-ray?
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LordoftheMorons 04/02/12 9:26:00 AM #25: |
GranzonEx posted...
I really don't see a problem with this. Are some of you using dialup or something? You've never had to deal with periodically awful university connections? -- No I'm not a damn furry. Looney Tunes are different. - Guiga I wanted Sonic/Shadow romance at that time, not sex. - MWE ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GranzonEx 04/02/12 9:30:00 AM #26: |
From: LordoftheMorons | #025 Unless your internet goes out every other day I don't see a problem! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GranzonEx 04/02/12 9:30:00 AM #27: |
From: Menji76 | #024 They don't own BD. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Anagram 04/02/12 9:32:00 AM #28: |
Great. I hope my dodgy internet is fixed before this comes out.
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ExThaNemesis 04/02/12 9:33:00 AM #29: |
I was going to be upset about this always online thing but then I remembered that I'm always online with both systems right now as is.
Maybe I'll try and get a better connection before I next-gen (if I do at all) but this certainly isn't something people should freak out over in 2012. I feel like if you don't have a decent high speed connection at this point you're too many years in the past to be worrying about the next gen in consoles. -- "I can't do this all on my own... no I know, I'm no Superman." ~*~TEAM RK-VOLTCH'D~*~ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GuessMyUserName 04/02/12 9:35:00 AM #30: |
From: Menji76 | Posted: 4/2/2012 12:26:14 PM | #024 Why wouldn't they? It would be nothing but beneficial to Sony. -- http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m122/alt0165/CD1_joohee0924.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ayuyu 04/02/12 9:35:00 AM #31: |
It'll make moving consoles a hassle though.
I often bring consoles over to my friends places so we can play. Gotta configure the internet every time now, and some of them don't even have wireless! -- http://img.imgcake.com/cosplaygifer.gif http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TORtanic ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ExThaNemesis 04/02/12 9:37:00 AM #32: |
That is a fair point I suppose, but they could potentially make it a lot easier to configure your connections. Maybe you can save connection settings so you only have to like, switch to a different tab when you take a console somewhere?
I don't know, I don't like moving my consoles at all. I don't think my PS3 or 360 have moved since I first set them up. >.> -- "I can't do this all on my own... no I know, I'm no Superman." ~*~TEAM RK-VOLTCH'D~*~ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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OmarsComin 04/02/12 9:39:00 AM #33: |
the thing about always online isn't "well we should all have high speed internet by now anyway" it's that inconvenient DRM is being added that has no benefit and sometimes has negatives. compare Starcraft 1 and Warcraft 3 to Starcraft 2 for instance. it takes a lot longer just to start playing the game. there's no upside to that.
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OctilIery 04/02/12 9:42:00 AM #34: |
It's just a rumor, not confirmed.
That said, an always online measure isn't as bad as we're making it out to be, theoretically - it just depends how they do it. Still bad for those times where we lose internet, but not game-breaking. If you have to be actively online and playing games on online servers? Yeah, it's crap. But if you have to simply be connected to the server, that's not bad - it takes very little bandwidth to do, and pretty much anyone could do it. -- Joyrock Fresh from my first justified ban. Ever! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SmartMuffin 04/02/12 9:43:00 AM #35: |
compare Starcraft 1 and Warcraft 3 to Starcraft 2 for instance. it takes a lot longer just to start playing the game. there's no upside to that.
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OctilIery 04/02/12 9:46:00 AM #36: |
LordoftheMorons posted...
GranzonEx posted... I really don't see a problem with this. Are some of you using dialup or something? You've never had to deal with periodically awful university connections? Having slow internet, even excessively so, won't effect this too much. Unless Microsoft is incredibly stupid, this will likely take even less bandwidth than it takes to connect to Steam(which is next to nothing). -- Joyrock Fresh from my first justified ban. Ever! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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shadosneko 04/02/12 9:47:00 AM #37: |
*Plays game*
UH OH INTERNET GLITCH *Game shuts down and you lose 5 hours of progress* -- http://backloggery.com/shados http://last.fm/user/ShadosNeko ... Copied to Clipboard!
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OmarsComin 04/02/12 9:49:00 AM #38: |
it usually takes me about 30 seconds to turn Steam on, then another 20 seconds to launch a game from Steam. it takes a lot less than that to launch non-Steam games. I have no idea if that's everyone's experience or just me living in Alaska, but it isn't ideal.
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OctilIery 04/02/12 9:49:00 AM #39: |
shadosneko posted...
*Plays game* UH OH INTERNET GLITCH *Game shuts down and you lose 5 hours of progress* Another awful thing >.< Hopefully they take a page from Steam in this regard and either only require the internet to start the game, or just do something like pause the game or remember your progress. (although to be fair if you lose 5 hours of progress from that I"m gonna go out on a limb and call it your fault for not saving :P) -- Joyrock Fresh from my first justified ban. Ever! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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foolm0ron 04/02/12 9:49:00 AM #40: |
Ubisoft has already proved that even if it's a single-player game and you only need to be online as a DRM check, it can and will fail miserably.
The point is that you can't have the pirated/cracked version of a game be superior to the legit version, because that directly produces piracy. And I can guarantee that if the rumors really are true, then the consoles will be hacked VERY quickly. If they have lots of benefits for being online, but still allow you to play offline without those features, then that would be the best option. That's what Steam does, -- _foolmo_ 'Ulti is like when your parents post something on your facebook status' - Sir Cobain ... Copied to Clipboard!
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foolm0ron 04/02/12 9:52:00 AM #41: |
From: OmarsComin | #038 No to mention how much faster it is than starting a console game. *turn on console* *intro screen* *navigate menu to play game* *CHUG CHUG CHUG LOADING* Biggest thing I hate about current gen is how you can't just turn on the machine and have it autoplay the game. You need some sort of input from the player. Though I think PS3 does this if you have autologin on, so that's cool. -- _foolmo_ 'and out of the blue and completely unprovoked came foolmo and his insult' - Anagram ... Copied to Clipboard!
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OmarsComin 04/02/12 9:53:00 AM #42: |
The point is that you can't have the pirated/cracked version of a game be superior to the legit version, because that directly produces piracy.
yeah that DRM that gets in the way of you just playing the game (whether it prevents you from doing it or slows it down) is only going to encourage piracy. it's a non-issue for games where the core content is online play, but for single player games people are going to be like "why am I paying for a gimped version of this game." -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npHDxSvwCE0 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FAHtastic 04/02/12 9:53:00 AM #43: |
shadosneko posted...
*Plays game* UH OH INTERNET GLITCH *Game shuts down and you lose 5 hours of progress* I'm no game designer, but I'm fairly confident that it someone was developing a game for a system that needed to be online all the time, they might not design it so that a drop in connection instantly erases several hours worth of work. Got these things called checkpoints and autosaves now. They're pretty handy. And this is all rumour anyhow. I'm gonna wait and see which console looks objectively better based on price, games and the system itself then buy that. I'm hoping it's the next Xbox, but if turns out to be the PS4, then I'll get that. That said, if both consoles keep their pads then it's Xbox all the way. Can't stand those flimsy PS3 controllers. -- Still the number one reason for the success of the Internet. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v192/FAH_Frenchie/YANsig02.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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OctilIery 04/02/12 9:53:00 AM #44: |
foolm0ron posted...
Ubisoft has already proved that even if it's a single-player game and you only need to be online as a DRM check, it can and will fail miserably. The point is that you can't have the pirated/cracked version of a game be superior to the legit version, because that directly produces piracy. And I can guarantee that if the rumors really are true, then the consoles will be hacked VERY quickly. If they have lots of benefits for being online, but still allow you to play offline without those features, then that would be the best option. That's what Steam does, Yeah, I agree pretty much 100% with this. I can't remember which developer I read about recently saying this, but they were talking about how developers are going against anti-piracy all wrong. They're not supposed to be trying to "kill" free, they need to COMPETE with free, and so far they aren't doing it. -- Joyrock Fresh from my first justified ban. Ever! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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OmarsComin 04/02/12 9:55:00 AM #45: |
No to mention how much faster it is than starting a console game.
*turn on console* *intro screen* *navigate menu to play game* *CHUG CHUG CHUG LOADING* Biggest thing I hate about current gen is how you can't just turn on the machine and have it autoplay the game. You need some sort of input from the player. Though I think PS3 does this if you have autologin on, so that's cool. oh god consoles if someone else in my apartment is using the internet, who knows how long it's going to take to make the 360 start working. that it waits until you sign in before it displays menus and lets you play your offline games is probably not a big deal for the vast majority of people but it affects me daily. damn you slow internet. -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npHDxSvwCE0 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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OmarsComin 04/02/12 9:56:00 AM #46: |
as an aside, it takes a few seconds to get to the game on my PS2, and it's even faster on my Genesis
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FAHtastic 04/02/12 9:57:00 AM #47: |
Alright, grandpa.
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SmartMuffin 04/02/12 9:58:00 AM #48: |
From: OmarsComin | #046 Because the nonsense represents additional profit streams for the console manufacturer. -- SmartMuffin - Because anything less would be uncivilized - http://img.imgcake.com/smartmuffin/barkleyjpgde.jpg http://dudewheresmyfreedom.com/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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OctilIery 04/02/12 9:59:00 AM #49: |
OmarsComin posted...
as an aside, it takes a few seconds to get to the game on my PS2, and it's even faster on my Genesis why is it that the further we progress in technology the more nonsense gets in the way of just playing the game Because they added a bunch of new features that required a bit more complication, and as it turns out a LOT of people use and like those new features. Stop complaining that you have to wait an extra minute(and not even that), jesus christ some of you people on here act so entitled. -- Joyrock Fresh from my first justified ban. Ever! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Phase 04/02/12 10:01:00 AM #50: |
SmartMuffin posted...
Probably a bad example, as everyone I know pirated the ever-loving **** out of Starcraft 1! And yet it's still the most successful RTS ever made by a very wide margin. (and the next competitor is SC2 lol) -- assert(!hotterThan(foo, "Hot Nymphomaniacal Lesbian Mind-Controlling Dominatrix Fairy Doctors with glasses")) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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