Board 8 > Where would you go to see if you were inside an incorporated city?

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Menji76
04/13/12 2:31:00 PM
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Does that just mean the city limits? I can't seem to find any good website for this. Ideas?
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KingButz
04/13/12 2:49:00 PM
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I'm not sure what you mean? Are you not sure if you live in an incorporated city?

Where do you live

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Menji76
04/13/12 2:58:00 PM
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No, I know I live inside one.

I'm trying to fight a ticket where the law says you can't make a u-turn within an incorporated city or within 500 feet of one. I was on a highway in between two cities and want to know where these limits end but can't find anything.

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Theon_Greyjoy
04/13/12 3:00:00 PM
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Do you live in Midgar?

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Menji76
04/13/12 3:00:00 PM
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close

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KingButz
04/13/12 3:06:00 PM
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I think if you search your city on wikipedia you might find the limits. Map books have them, but good luck finding one of those.

But also, what terrible city has a law against u-turns

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Menji76
04/13/12 3:09:00 PM
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From: KingButz | #006
But also, what terrible city has a law against u-turns


Exactly! Well technically is was dark but my campus lawyer said just to find out if you were in an incorprated city.


A person commits the offense of making an illegal U-turn if the person is operating a vehicle and the person turns the vehicle so as to proceed in the opposite direction in any of the following places:

(a) Within an intersection where traffic is controlled by an electrical signal. This paragraph does not apply where posted otherwise.

(b) Upon a highway within the limits of an incorporated city between intersections.

(c) At any place upon a highway where the vehicle cannot be seen by another driver approaching from either direction within a distance of:

(A) 500 feet within the incorporated limits of a city; or

(B) 1,000 feet outside a city.


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KingButz
04/13/12 3:16:00 PM
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so the only places you can make a u-turn is between 500 feet and 1000 feet outside the city??

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red sox 777
04/13/12 3:18:00 PM
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California? It's the only place I've been to in the US with unincorporated areas that is not super rural.

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KingButz
04/13/12 3:19:00 PM
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Maryland has unincorporated areas all over the place. Most of suburban Maryland is unincorporated.

And you can u-turn anywhere in California unless indicated otherwise

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Menji76
04/13/12 3:21:00 PM
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I think it means if I'm outside the incorporated limits of a city a car can be 1000+ feet away and it's legal. If they're closer it is not.


And no, Oregon.

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red sox 777
04/13/12 3:24:00 PM
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The statute is also confusing because it is unclear whether "highway" means what we usually understand nowadays as a highway (=freeway) and the traditional meaning of highway as you would find going back centuries (meaning any road that is not very local, like most avenues, most main streets, etc.)

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Menji76
04/13/12 3:27:00 PM
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I know.

But I was on a highway like we think. Highway 20 to be precise. I was at mile marker 11 which is between two cities (or at least doesn't appear on their city limit maps). I just need to know if that's considered incorporated or not. Or if there's some other town in between. The cop that pulled me over got there in about 20 seconds and I calculated it would take 12 seconds going 55 mph to go 1000 feet. So if I can just find out if I was or not I could get off!

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KingButz
04/13/12 3:35:00 PM
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the city limits are the boundaries of the incorporated city

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Lincoln_County_Oregon_Incorporated_and_Unincorporated_areas_Toledo_Highlighted.svg

As shown on this map the incorporated areas are shown as grey or red

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Hrezs
04/13/12 3:57:00 PM
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Call the town halls

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Leebo86
04/13/12 4:26:00 PM
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A lot of the highways around where I live have little signs that say stuff like "emergency vehicles only" on those little connectors that would let you do a U-turn on the highway. Because of that I have just never tried it anywhere.

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SmartMuffin
04/13/12 4:27:00 PM
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Oregon's U-Turn laws are so ****ing stupid. When I moved and realized that in the rest of the country U-turns are a perfectly legitimate thing, it blew my mind.

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Menji76
04/13/12 4:34:00 PM
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From: Leebo86 | #016
A lot of the highways around where I live have little signs that say stuff like "emergency vehicles only" on those little connectors that would let you do a U-turn on the highway. Because of that I have just never tried it anywhere.


It wasn't one of those. Aren't those freeways? This was a two lane highway with no center divider or lane. I tried to a do u-turn starting from the shoulder because I had no clue where I was and couldn't find a better place to turn around. I just misjudged the timing and yeah.

From: SmartMuffin | #017
Oregon's U-Turn laws are so ****ing stupid. When I moved and realized that in the rest of the country U-turns are a perfectly legitimate thing, it blew my mind.



I am beginning to figure this out!

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Leebo86
04/13/12 4:36:00 PM
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From: Menji76 | #018
It wasn't one of those. Aren't those freeways?


I'm talking about interstates and the like. No one uses the word freeway here at all.

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Menji76
04/13/12 4:41:00 PM
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Okay yeah interstates, I call them freeways!

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