Board 8 > Which Kingdom Hearts games are worth playing?

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I've played through 1 and 2. Other than (I'm guessing) BBS, should I bother with any of the other ones?

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Birth By Sleep for sure

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Personally, none, but from what fans tell me, BBS.

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CoM too, right?

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Chain of Memories isnt necessary

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All of them.

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From: SuperAngelo128 | #005
Chain of Memories isnt necessary

If you don't care about knowing what the hell is going on in KH2, I suppose.

But yeah, all of them. CoM and 358/2 Days don't have the best gameplay but they're not bad. Re:Coded has good gameplay but a completely pointless story. Birth By Sleep is amazing all around- better than the mainline games.

And apparently DDD is even better according to most people I talk to..

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You may as well play RE: Chain of Memories, since it's way better

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Yeah, if you're going to play CoM, play the PS2 remake instead of the original GBA version.

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KH1 / KH2 are worth playing for sure. MAYBE Chain of Memories if you can deal with a decent but gimmicky battle system and GBA graphics. Re: CoM if you really liked Chain of Memories and want to see it with normal KH graphics.

Neither Days nor BBS were particularly important or entertaining. They're both way too easy, with the combat system feeling a little bit dull compared to KH1/KH2. I kind of liked Days characters but the game's pacing was a bit too slow. Re:Coded was kind of odd. The story was absolutely trivial and the gameplay is really, really disorienting. But at the same time it's the only KH game where you've got 2D platforming and turn-based RPG style gameplay mixed in. If you're bored it's kind of amusing but not exactly great. Can't rank DDD - haven't played it yet.

KH1 / KH 2 > CoM > Re:CoM/Days/BBS > Re:Coded is roughly how I'd rank them.

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for storyline purposes they're all necessary

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Re: Chain of Memories was only a lot better as far as graphics / sound. A lot of the combat didn't translate quite as well to 3d though. And then there's the sleights they added, which IMO is a mixed bag - it's nice to have some more variety, but some of them were utterly broken. At some points CoM throws some really challenging fights at you. In Re:CoM, once you get enough cards to abuse the better sleights, the remaining battles become a spamfest of whatever your best sleight is.

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From: soma2035 | #010
Days nor BBS were particularly important or entertaining.

BBS and Days are very important to the story, and you'd know this if you even knew a little bit about DDD. BBS especially explains a LOT of inconsistencies and unexplained points in KH2.

They're both way too easy

BBS is the hardest game in the series on Critical.

You obviously don't know what you're talking about at all.

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From: soma2035 | #010
Neither Days nor BBS were particularly important

BBS is going to be very important for KH3. Not to mention there's going to be a BBS2.

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What's the gameplay like in 358/2

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From: DeathChicken | #008
You may as well play RE: Chain of Memories, since it's way better

There is really nothing better about it, except that it's version of certain scenes are updated canon.

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All of the really.

But if you the musts are KHI, KHII, RE:Com, BBS.

Re:Coded is ok and Numbers/Days is probably the weakest entry. Definitely play RE: CoM over the vanilla CoM though. It's so much better.

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BBS is the hardest game in the series on Critical.

You obviously don't know what you're talking about at all.

Haha what? Critical on BBS is a cakewalk compared to the Final Mixes of 1 and 2. When I played BBS I literally had to use the No EXP ability to keep the challenge satisfying, even on Critical.

As for which games you have to play: All of them except the DS ones are important. Basically meaning KH1, KH2, CoM and BBS. Also, either play KH2 Final Mix or watch the 20-something new cutscenes on Youtube.

If you liked all of the other games you will also probably like the DS games mind you. They're side stories but that doesn't mean they don't pack a punch plotwise.

Not to mention there's going to be a BBS2.

Has there been any word about that other than that it's happening? I assume it's more likely to be on Vita than PSP now.

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KH1, Chain of Memories or Re:Com, KH2, and BBS in that order.

Days is pretty unimportant unless you're a huge Org. XIII fan, and Re:Coded's impact on the plot is limited to the short ending scene after you beat the game.

Hell you don't even HAVE to play CoM before KH2. I didn't, but when I went back and played it, it did make some parts of the plot easier to understand.

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1 and 2 are definitely worth playing. I enjoyed CoM, but it's basically mostly filler. The story that is there is really great, though, especially since it shows Org. XIII before KH2 sends the story to hell. BBS has incredible gameplay, so it's definitely worth playing too.

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From: soma2035 | #010
Days nor BBS were particularly important or entertaining.
BBS and Days are very important to the story, and you'd know this if you even knew a little bit about DDD. BBS especially explains a LOT of inconsistencies and unexplained points in KH2.


Is Days really important to the plot? I played Days(to the end) but really hated the damn thing and thought the story was abysmal. The impression I got was that nothing in it would ever be brought up again in the main story. I'm trying to avoid KH3DS spoilers, but...does it bring Days up?

Also, BBS is great. It's my favorite game of the series by far.

Play 1
Watch cutscenes of Re: CoM
Play 2
Play BBS

358/2 Days is good for story purposes, but it's not really that great and can be skipped. Re: coded is terrible and nearly all filler.

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From: shadosneko | #015
What's the gameplay like in 358/2

Horribly simplified and slow. The only aspect Days got good with gameplay is it's unique customization.

Days isn't important to the story at all and was just used to try and fix plot holes, inconsistencies, and unexplained plot devices.
Not worth your time unless you're really into the Kingdom Hearts characters cause the dialogue, though all in text, is the best in the games and gives certain characters a little more dimension.

BBS's gameplay is easily the best. Obviously 1 and 2 are needed to be played. That's the essentials, give or take RE: CoM. Kh3d is looking to be good too.

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I heard Days retcons itself at the end of the game

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Kinda.

It just makes it so that new extra character that was basically it's selling point for some becomes non-existent cause they had to explain why she was never mentioned before or after the game. Everything else with Riku, Roxas, and Axel still seem relevant though.

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I heard Days retcons itself at the end of the game

No, it just ensures that most of it will never be mentioned again. Basically, all the bits that serve as background/behind-the-scenes explanations to CoM and/or set up KH2 are fully canon and relevant. All of the internal stuff that's only relevant to Roxas is also canon, but [see edit history for explanation]

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From: tazzyboyishere | #024
Re: coded is terrible and nearly all filler.

Let's just ignore all that fun gameplay though!

It's pretty laughable that people always put this story emphasis on a series that doesn't have a good story.

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Well, at least somebody gets that.

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i've only played 1, 2, and CoM on the gameboy, and i think CoM actually has the best gameplay of the three.

1 had a bunch of problems, and while 2 fixes lots of them, it's just too easy of a game. CoM felt pretty good once I wrapped my head around it.

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From: pjbasis | #029
Let's just ignore all that fun gameplay though!

It's pretty laughable that people always put this story emphasis on a series that doesn't have a good story.

I don't think people dislike Re: Coded because of it's story.

But because it's retreading water we've walked over, mapped out, and published as an atlas.

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I've played the two mainline games and the CoM remake on PS2. If you're a Disney or Square fan (or better yet, a fan of both) and want to get those nostalgic warm pangs in your heart, then this is the series for you. The story is extremely convoluted and no one really knows what the hell is going on, but KH isn't really about that imho. It's about being sappy, nostalgic, and plucking at your heartstrings. If those things don't sound appealing to you, then stay far away from this series.

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Sound advice! (I belong in the 'doesn't appeal' camp, personally, but I totally get the draw. Any attempts on my part to read online articles on what in hell's name the story is ultimately about feel more difficult than translating Xenogears Perfect Works somehow.)

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You guys don't need to tell me to play 1 and 2 because of the first sentence in the OP. >_>

From what I can tell, the only reason I should really play the DS ones is because of story, which I didn't really care about at all from what I played.

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From what I can tell, the only reason I should really play the DS ones is because of story, which I didn't really care about at all from what I played.


See -----> Let's just ignore all that fun gameplay though!

It's pretty laughable that people always put this story emphasis on a series that doesn't have a good story.

Re: Coded has some pretty darn good gameplay.

If you don't care about the story, then skip Days and play the rest.

Chain of Memories is love or hate though. Lots of people seem to dislike it because it's not a buttonmashing fest and actually requires strategy and skill, strangely enough.

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From: soma2035 | #010
Days nor BBS were particularly important or entertaining.
BBS and Days are very important to the story, and you'd know this if you even knew a little bit about DDD. BBS especially explains a LOT of inconsistencies and unexplained points in KH2.

They're both way too easy
BBS is the hardest game in the series on Critical.

You obviously don't know what you're talking about at all.

I only played the US version of BBS, but I played it on critical. I've also played every other KH game on the hardest difficulty available. The only fight in BBS that was even remotely difficult was Mysterious Figure. No other boss took me more than a couple tries, except Zack II as Terra when I hadn't quite figured out how to get abilities (Hero's Pride on Critical against an underleveled Terra with no second chance is a one-hit kill). That's the ONLY fight in the game that was challenging for me barring MF, and it was only because I hadn't really paid attention to abilities up to that point, so it was my fault entirely and not really representative of the game's difficulty.

The final fight with Riku in KH1, the final fight with Riku Replica as Sora in the original Chain of Memories, and some of the Organization XIII fights in KH2 were all much harder than anything in BBS. Some of the challenges in Days were much harder too.

BBS / Days do explain plot holes, yes, but I've known several people who played KH1 / KH2 without playing any handheld games. Sure they noticed a few inconsistencies but the story still hangs together for them. I can't say anything with regards to DDD - I've been making a conscious effort to avoid everything related to DDD until it comes out in the US.

I will grant that Final Mix BBS looks hard - some of the Mirage Arena bosses (No Heart in particular) look like they can be quite challenging. But in the US version at least, it doesn't come anywhere close to some of the harder fights in the other games.

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From: YetAnothrShadow | #032
I don't think people dislike Re: Coded because of it's story.

But because it's retreading water we've walked over, mapped out, and published as an atlas.

How?

Music? I'll give you that
Graphics? Yes, it is pretty much reusing the same textures and asthetic themes of the worlds.

Level Design? Not at all, it's as different as Hyrule is from any Zelda to the next.

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From: Takfloyd_mkII__ | #036
Chain of Memories is love or hate though. Lots of people seem to dislike it because it's not a buttonmashing fest and actually requires strategy and skill, strangely enough.

I'd like to agree with you here because I love CoM, but the strategy does amount to using Zeroes to break and then mashing all your keyblade cards. MAYBE use a -aga sleight here and there for people with weaknesses.

I know there are more advanced decks that break the game even easier, but it's not necessary.

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From: pjbasis | #038
How?

Music? I'll give you that
Graphics? Yes, it is pretty much reusing the same textures and asthetic themes of the worlds.

Level Design? Not at all, it's as different as Hyrule is from any Zelda to the next.

Except you don't play Zelda for Hyrule.

You do however play Kingdom hearts for the Disney settings.

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^Maybe if you're playing on Beginner. But that "strategy" will get you killed in no time flat if you play on the highest difficulty, and seriously, you don't play Kingdom Hearts on anything but the highest difficulty.

absolutely none of them

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From: YetAnothrShadow | #040
You do however play Kingdom hearts for the Disney settings.

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