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Rad Link 5 05/04/12 7:58:00 PM #301: |
I'm only not talking about Damien Sandow because I didn't watch SmackDown.
I'll go watch the Damien Sandow part later, since it's probably, like, two minutes long the way they've been booking these debuts. -- Ace Detective in Sir Chris' Police http://i54.tinypic.com/2ib126v.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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X_Dante_X 05/04/12 7:58:00 PM #302: |
we have been waiting for this for years
well, maybe you guys haven't, but I've been openly stating this is exactly where I wanted sheamus since late 2010! -- boring and mundane signature Now with more bold! Less Italics due to bold ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rad Link 5 05/04/12 7:59:00 PM #303: |
From: Jakyl25 | #300 The fact that it's unsurprising isn't relevant to our complaints at all. -- Ace Detective in Sir Chris' Police http://i55.tinypic.com/16ljqbl.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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voltch 05/04/12 8:00:00 PM #304: |
From: PrivateBiscuit1 | #294 Well Cena's the face of the franchise and generates million on a yearly basis through merch etc and since the kiddy fanbase and female combine to prolly more than us dudes who stream the PPVs and don't get our parents to spend nearly as much then yeah. I'd say Cena's worked out fantastically. Though **** Cena I want a Goldberg style guy whi isn't Goldberg cos Golbdberg's really old, but jesus christ, the whole Goldberg thing was gold. -- Dr voltchball - best in the world. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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JaKyL25 05/04/12 8:01:00 PM #305: |
I'm just saying, this is how WWE has always worked!
It's like complaining that NBA superstars get favorable whistles. -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. http://www.wwe.com/f/styles/photo_large/public/photo/image/2012/04/33_Moscow_04112012jg_02128.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PrivateBiscuit1 05/04/12 8:01:00 PM #306: |
I will assist everyone who did not watch Smackdown or does not want to watch Smackdown, but should absolutely see Damien Sandow's debut by posting it here:
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Tom Bombadil 05/04/12 8:01:00 PM #307: |
From: PrivateBiscuit1 | #294 so wait are we arguing that cena gets no reaction or what -- ~Tommeri Uranius Bombaldi the Fourth, esq. If you can read this, I'm probably posting from my phone or something! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheRock1525 05/04/12 8:02:00 PM #308: |
Jakyl25 posted...
Vince McMahon shoves unbeatable superface down everyone's throats. This and other shocking news at 11. Maybe my memory is short, but during the Attitude Era I don't remember a lot of super faces running around. The closest was 2000 Rock, I guess. -- TheRock ~ Slow dramatic zoom-pan. Doesn't phase the hooded man. "You have issues." - MWC. Pot. Kettle. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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voltch 05/04/12 8:02:00 PM #309: |
Hey you know who was unbeatable for like what 2 years?
The Bionic Redneck! -- Dr voltchball - best in the world. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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JaKyL25 05/04/12 8:03:00 PM #310: |
From: TheRock1525 | #308 Steve Austin went 2 1/2 years without suffering a legitimate loss. -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. http://www.wwe.com/f/styles/photo_large/public/photo/image/2012/04/33_Moscow_04112012jg_02128.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PrivateBiscuit1 05/04/12 8:03:00 PM #311: |
From: Tom Bombadil | #307 No, I'm arguing that a good portion of the fanbase boos John Cena on a constant basis because they can't stand him, even though he's supposed to be the face of the company. -- Xbox GT: PrivateBiscuit1 Down with Zhang. Let there be Biscuit! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rad Link 5 05/04/12 8:04:00 PM #312: |
Females will take to a pasty red-head like fish to water, obviously.
And the PPV buy rates/television ratings in recent years clearly backup your claim that these demographics are more important. Then there's the fact that a smark-friendly promo from CM Punk turned him into the hottest merchandise seller in WWE history, and Daniel Bryan's YES! shirt is crushing their sales expectations. -- Ace Detective in Sir Chris' Police http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/9526/prosecutorshominamimoto.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheRock1525 05/04/12 8:04:00 PM #313: |
Austin is the exception to everything, though.
He was a face in name only, really. -- TheRock ~ Slow dramatic zoom-pan. Doesn't phase the hooded man. "You have issues." - MWC. Pot. Kettle. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PrivateBiscuit1 05/04/12 8:05:00 PM #314: |
Daniel Bryan's T-shirt sales are doing so good that I will have to purchase one at the show I go to in a little over a week because the shirt will probably not be here by the time I go!
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TheRock1525 05/04/12 8:05:00 PM #315: |
I need to pick up a YES shirt.
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voltch 05/04/12 8:06:00 PM #316: |
Shawn really didn't lose much either.
and he was a dick. -- Dr voltchball - best in the world. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rad Link 5 05/04/12 8:06:00 PM #317: |
From: PrivateBiscuit1 | #314 If the status is listed as "Processing," you can cancel it and get your money back. Unless you want two t-shirts, in which case I can't blame you. -- Ace Detective in Sir Chris' Police http://i54.tinypic.com/ru343c.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dr_Football 05/04/12 8:08:00 PM #318: |
I enjoy the curtain pull on his lower titantron
And that he holds the mic like a fine glass of brandy -- Dr voltchball - best in the world. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PrivateBiscuit1 05/04/12 8:09:00 PM #319: |
No, I couldn't even order a YES! shirt as of a couple days ago.
How long does it take for them to deliver stuff? -- Xbox GT: PrivateBiscuit1 Down with Zhang. Let there be Biscuit! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PrivateBiscuit1 05/04/12 8:10:00 PM #320: |
I just checked again. Back order until 5/11. I'm going to the 5/14 RAW.
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voltch 05/04/12 8:13:00 PM #321: |
Top 5 best "undefeatable through legitimate means" runs in the history of pro-wrestling.
Jakyl go! You can use North america, Japan, Mexico, india, UK wherever the hell you want and anything from Gotch n Hackenschmidt to today's stuff. -- Dr voltchball - best in the world. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rad Link 5 05/04/12 8:13:00 PM #322: |
Then yeah, don't even order.
It was almost twenty days after my order before they were caught up enough to actually ship mine, and then it was only a few days, but I think it was longer than three days. -- Ace Detective in Sir Chris' Police Witness to the greatest night of baseball ever. (9/28/2011) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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JaKyL25 05/04/12 8:14:00 PM #323: |
I'm trying to think of long-term "face of the company" babyface main eventers since Vince bought the company that aren't Hogan-like in their physical dominance and invincibility (not just World Champions, but guys who were actually positioned as the company's top star, for any period of time)
Hogan? Check Warrior? Check Hart? Exception Luger? Check Diesel? Check Michaels? Exception Undertaker? Check Austin? Check Rock? Exception Triple H? Check Lesnar? Check Batista? Check Cena? Check So really, Bret, HBK, and Rock are pretty much the only exceptions to Vince McMahon's Superman Fanfiction. -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. http://www.wwe.com/f/styles/photo_large/public/photo/image/2012/04/33_Moscow_04112012jg_02128.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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voltch 05/04/12 8:16:00 PM #324: |
Angle?
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Rad Link 5 05/04/12 8:18:00 PM #325: |
What strikes me more about that list is how many of those guys are ridiculously muscular.
Sure, it's about as surprising as the fact that Vince shoves Super Man booking down our throats, but I didn't really realize how much it happened until that list. -- Ace Detective in Sir Chris' Police I read your posts like you're a sourpuss because you often come across that way. - LeonhartFour ... Copied to Clipboard!
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JaKyL25 05/04/12 8:18:00 PM #326: |
When was Angle ever THE guy?
Maybe for 1 day in 2001 because of 9/11, which means you might have me on a technicality since I did say "for any length of time." -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. http://www.wwe.com/f/styles/photo_large/public/photo/image/2012/04/33_Moscow_04112012jg_02128.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheRock1525 05/04/12 8:19:00 PM #327: |
Keep in mind that most of those guys moved across multiple generations as the top guy.
I'm talking about exclusively in the Attitude Era, how many guys "dominated" the roster. -- TheRock ~ Slow dramatic zoom-pan. Doesn't phase the hooded man. "You have issues." - MWC. Pot. Kettle. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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voltch 05/04/12 8:19:00 PM #328: |
Also, they clearly want Sid Justice to become something big.
if you're including Luger, you gotta include Sid. -- Dr voltchball - best in the world. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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voltch 05/04/12 8:20:00 PM #329: |
Face Bikertaker pretty much killed everyone he could lay his hands on.
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JaKyL25 05/04/12 8:22:00 PM #330: |
From: voltch | #328 Luger was THE guy for like 6 months. Sid was the main HEEL a couple times, but never lead face. -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. http://www.wwe.com/f/styles/photo_large/public/photo/image/2012/04/33_Moscow_04112012jg_02128.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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voltch 05/04/12 8:24:00 PM #331: |
Sid Justice was totally face!
Luger had to share credentials with Hart, also in that period where Austin was heel Rock was away and Triple H injured Angle became the Main face by default! -- Dr voltchball - best in the world. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PrivateBiscuit1 05/04/12 8:29:00 PM #332: |
From: Jakyl25 | #326 I thought about this and immediately thought about the time that Angle went "YEAH! YEAH! YOUR BUTT IS MINE ORTON!" in a promo that was hilarious and wanted to post a video of it. But now I can't find a video and am therefore sad. -- Xbox GT: PrivateBiscuit1 Down with Zhang. Let there be Biscuit! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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JaKyL25 05/04/12 8:34:00 PM #333: |
From: TheRock1525 | #327 Not really. I mean, Hogan had 3 stints of increasingly shorter reigns as THE GUY from 1984-1993, so depending on your definitions you can say he crossed over into the New Generation just a skosh, but everyone else is pretty pigeonholed. For the record, the actual lineage goes like this in my eyes (heels in italics): Bruno--Pedro--Bruno--Graham--Backlund--Hogan--Warrior--Hogan--Flair--Bret--Hogan--Luger--Bret--Diesel--Shawn--Undertaker--Austin--Rock--Austin--Rock--Triple H--Lesnar--Triple H--Batista--Cena It's kind of interesting that Cena has been THE GUY since the Summer of 2005, closing in on 7 years straight, the longest "reign" in the Vince Jr. era. Hogan's combined "reigns" are still longer than Cena's, but if Cena isn't toppled by next year's WM, he'll pass the Hulkster. -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. http://www.wwe.com/f/styles/photo_large/public/photo/image/2012/04/33_Moscow_04112012jg_02128.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rad Link 5 05/04/12 8:35:00 PM #334: |
I think heels can be the face of the company. I mean the "face" in face of the company isn't referring to alignment.
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X_Dante_X 05/04/12 8:36:00 PM #335: |
Sheamus will be on top by next wrestlemania, imo
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DeathChicken 05/04/12 8:37:00 PM #336: |
There was also Savage for that year he was champ between Wrestlemania 4 and 5. Although I guess Hogan was still Hogan for that frame, but still
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Rad Link 5 05/04/12 8:37:00 PM #337: |
Also there was a period of time when John Cena broke his neck where he obviously wasn't the guy. I vote for Chris Jericho, who Main Evented four straight pay-per-views and was basically the center of Raw for a good long time there.
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JaKyL25 05/04/12 8:39:00 PM #338: |
From: DeathChicken | #336 Hogan was still THE GUY. Heck, that's basically the underlying catalyst behind Savage's heel turn during that reign. -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. http://www.wwe.com/f/styles/photo_large/public/photo/image/2012/04/33_Moscow_04112012jg_02128.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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JaKyL25 05/04/12 8:42:00 PM #339: |
From: Rad Link 5 | #337 I can see that argument. Jericho was basically THE INTERIM GUY and then as soon as Cena was ready the rug got pulled out from under Jericho, but there is a 3-month period there where he was front and center. Triple H was busy dominating SmackDown, lucky for Chris -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. http://www.wwe.com/f/styles/photo_large/public/photo/image/2012/04/33_Moscow_04112012jg_02128.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rad Link 5 05/04/12 8:56:00 PM #340: |
Chris Jericho's career could look so much different if Triple H was always busy somewhere else.
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voltch 05/04/12 8:56:00 PM #341: |
Until John Cena came in.
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edwardsdv 05/04/12 8:59:00 PM #342: |
From: Jakyl25 | #272 Wait... theres relevent stuff happening on superstars? -- http://img.imgcake.com/nio/81edpngej.png The one and only Underdog Millionaire and UCA CORPORATE Champion ... Copied to Clipboard!
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JaKyL25 05/04/12 9:02:00 PM #343: |
Do you consider Dolph Ziggler vs. Mason Ryan and Zack Ryder vs. Michael McGillicutty "relevant?"
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Rad Link 5 05/04/12 9:03:00 PM #344: |
If I knew Superstars is where Dolph Ziggler has been putting on actual matches lately, I'd be watching it.
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PrivateBiscuit1 05/04/12 9:04:00 PM #345: |
I consider Michael McGillicutty's theme relevant!
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JaKyL25 05/04/12 9:05:00 PM #346: |
I just realized that Vickie wasn't out there with Dolph for that match.
I wonder if it's a no-pressure trial separation to experiment with whether or not he still needs her (obviously he doesn't but empirical evidence is nice). -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. http://www.wwe.com/f/styles/photo_large/public/photo/image/2012/04/33_Moscow_04112012jg_02128.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rad Link 5 05/04/12 9:10:00 PM #347: |
You know, it's a shame Dolph Ziggler's got such an awful shirt. I mean Extreme Rules shows that there's obviously fan support for him, but I don't think anyone's willing to buy... this shirt.
http://www.wweshop.com/item/dolph-ziggler-show-off-pink-t-shirt/DolphZiggler/01-16098 There's the non-pink version that Dolph never wears which at least has a more pleasing color palette, but it's still not a great design. http://www.wweshop.com/item/dolph-ziggler-showing-off-authentic-t-shirt/DolphZiggler/01-15554 In related news, those Kayfabe shirts are 50% off now, so uh, if for some reason you want an all black shirt that has a wrestling term on it in plain white arial font, this is potentially your last chance. http://www.wweshop.com/category/Men/TShirts-Kayfabe -- Ace Detective in Sir Chris' Police http://i53.tinypic.com/o0ce3q.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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edwardsdv 05/04/12 9:15:00 PM #348: |
From: Jakyl25 | #343 You people made it seem like there was a ziggles ryder feud on ss... Also has Orton really NEVER been the GUY. -- http://img.imgcake.com/nio/81edpngej.png The one and only Underdog Millionaire and UCA CORPORATE Champion ... Copied to Clipboard!
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JaKyL25 05/04/12 9:21:00 PM #349: |
From: edwardsdv | #348 ZTLIS Also has Orton really NEVER been the GUY. If you wanna count October 2007-January 2008 during that Cena injury, that's probably the closest he ever got. THE INTERIM GUY just like Jericho later that year. -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. http://www.wwe.com/f/styles/photo_large/public/photo/image/2012/04/33_Moscow_04112012jg_02128.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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JaKyL25 05/04/12 9:26:00 PM #350: |
They were kinda moving in that direction in 2009 though, when Orton won the Rumble and then punted Vince, while Cena was relegated to feuding with Edge and Big Show over the WHC.
But then at WM with Orton in the main event, lolno, Triple H wins, back in line Randy. -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. http://www.wwe.com/f/styles/photo_large/public/photo/image/2012/04/33_Moscow_04112012jg_02128.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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