Do we KNOW that it was synthetic? Given how cheap TNA is, it's entirely possible they collected real feces from Universal Studios porta-pottys!
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Board 8 > All-Purpose Wrestling Topic 188: Random Sheamus Topic
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SmartMuffin 05/05/12 9:31:00 AM #402: |
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Dr_Football 05/05/12 9:37:00 AM #403: |
Edge was in two chambers >_>
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JaKyL25 05/05/12 9:48:00 AM #404: |
From: SmartMuffin | #400 By the LITERAL DEFINITION of your question, Edge at No Way Out 2009/Wrestlemania 25 doesn't count, since the switch from one title to the other happened at the SAME PPV, and then next month he wasn't CHALLENGING for the other one, but rather he was DEFENDING it. (Although it is kinda neat that he lost both World Titles at consecutive PPVs) Orton pulled off a nifty trick in 2010 where over a string of 5 PPVs he was in: WWE Title match non-title match WHC title match non-title match WWE title match But that still doesn't fit. I mentally went back as far as Edge's Chamber switch, and it hasn't happened since then, I will keep you posted. -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. http://www.wwe.com/f/styles/photo_large/public/photo/image/2012/04/33_Moscow_04112012jg_02128.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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JaKyL25 05/05/12 9:55:00 AM #405: |
I also thought of an early one that will at least give a baseline:
At Vengeance 2001, Rock lost the WCW Championship to Jericho on the night where Jericho would later go on to defeat Austin for the WWF Title as well, to unify them as the Undisputed Championship (which technically is the WWF Championship) Rock would then challenge Jericho for the Undisputed Championship at the next PPV, Royal Rumble 2002. Kinda cheating since WCW/WHC aren't technically the same thing, but still. -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. http://www.wwe.com/f/styles/photo_large/public/photo/image/2012/04/33_Moscow_04112012jg_02128.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SmartMuffin 05/05/12 10:04:00 AM #406: |
I guess Edge should count. It meets the spirit of my question, if not the letter!
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TimJab 05/05/12 10:20:00 AM #407: |
so is punk vs. dragon for the wwe championship happening at the next PPV or was i lied to
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JaKyL25 05/05/12 10:43:00 AM #408: |
From: TimJab | #407 http://www.wwe.com/shows/wweoverthelimit/2012/cm-punk-daniel-bryan -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. http://www.wwe.com/f/styles/photo_large/public/photo/image/2012/04/33_Moscow_04112012jg_02128.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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JaKyL25 05/05/12 10:48:00 AM #409: |
From: SmartMuffin | #406 Edge is the culprit of all of these consecutive PPV sorts of things as I keep going backwards. 2009 No Way Out: Edge loses WWE, wins WHC Wrestlemania 25: Edge loses WHC 2008 Night of Champions: Edge retains WHC against Batista (loses title to Punk on Raw the next night) Great American Bash: Edge loses WWE Title match against Triple H 2007 Backlash: Edge loses WWE Title Match against Cena/Orton/HBK (wins WHC from Taker on SD with Kennedy's MitB) Judgment Day: Edge retains WHC against Batista The Ultimate Opportunist indeed! -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. http://www.wwe.com/f/styles/photo_large/public/photo/image/2012/04/33_Moscow_04112012jg_02128.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TimJab 05/05/12 11:19:00 AM #410: |
Pretty amazing that Edge is an 11 time world champ when he only had about 6 years in the main event. Imagine if it hadn't taken him nearly a decade to get there of if he hadn't been forced into early retirement. He might not have broken Flair's record (since that's obviously not up to him), but he would have come close.
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SmartMuffin 05/05/12 11:21:00 AM #411: |
I think whether Flair's record gets broken depends entirely on whether he stays in TNA or not.
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voltch 05/05/12 11:32:00 AM #412: |
Writers are prolly unaware that Flair holds the record.
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Lopen 05/05/12 12:00:00 PM #385: |
I know this is 4 hours ago but I don't think that having the face of the company being unstoppable is a bad thing.
But I don't think being unstoppable is the same thing as no selling offense. Really the only guys on that list of "unstoppable forces" that no sold offense regularly were Hogan and Warrior (and Bikertaker but that's not the same as the taker that was the face of the company). Like the big fish of the company should be the best but that doesn't mean he has to make everyone else look on a much lower level than him. For instance Triple H for as much as you'll say about burying guys it was more in the booking of him beating a guy 10 times than the matches themselves. Like on PPV matches or main events his matches for the most part looked competitive. Triple H would come out on top but that's why he's the best. For the most part the same is true for John Cena, Austin, or any of the other guys on that list that weren't Hogan and Warrior. So yeah people having a problem with Sheamus kicking out at 1 isn't the same as people having a problem with Sheamus winning a lot. -- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kinglicious 05/05/12 12:16:00 PM #413: |
Flair is one of those numbers that they should know. As for cena, bigger question is if they'll let him top hhh
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Rad Link 5 05/05/12 1:11:00 PM #414: |
While we're on the subject of interesting back-to-back PPV title matches, take a look at 2008 Jericho.
Won the WHC at Unforgiven 2008. Defended it against Shawn Michaels at No Mercy 2008. Lost it to Batista at Cyber Sunday 2008. Lost it to John Cena at Survivor Series 2008. Lost a WHC match to John Cena at Armageddon 2008. So he lost two straight PPV WHC matches as the champion. -- Ace Detective in Sir Chris' Police http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/5205/bananase.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Wanglicious 05/05/12 1:58:00 PM #415: |
also on the matter of 50/50 booking - it sucks when that's what seriously happens. that's the basis of cena/orton and why they have the number of titles they do, that damn feud padded both of their numbers by like 5 each.
but something like 60/40 or even 70/30 is good. even if you want to play it straight, to give the illusion of 60/40 is far better than what we get from guys pulling a superman in a match. -- The King Wang. Listen up Urinal Cake. I already have something that tells me if I'm too drunk when I pee on it: My friends. - Colbert. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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JaKyL25 05/05/12 1:59:00 PM #416: |
From: Kinglicious | #413 "We need to start looking at titles as props" is code for "This gives us an excuse to not put the title on Cena anymore to keep him behind Triple H." -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. http://www.wwe.com/f/styles/photo_large/public/photo/image/2012/04/33_Moscow_04112012jg_02128.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Wanglicious 05/05/12 2:00:00 PM #417: |
oh absolutely. <_<; half the reason cena's NOT in the title scene is because hhh's number exists. and hhh doesn't want to surpass flair's numbers, so your cap gets even smaller.
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Rad Link 5 05/05/12 2:15:00 PM #418: |
Joke's on Triple H when his refusal to let Cena win another World Championship sends Cena to TNA where he wins the World Title five times.
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MartinFF7 05/05/12 2:18:00 PM #419: |
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edwardsdv 05/05/12 2:27:00 PM #420: |
From: Jakyl25 | #397 Yeaaah. This is like 10% of the reason I am not excited for Punk/Bryan (the other 90% is Bryan himself). Either that moment wasnt in kayfabe (lame) or Punk literally thinks this title defense will be fun and at no point ever in doubt that hes gonna make Bryan tap to the lameass Anaconda vise. -- http://img.imgcake.com/nio/81edpngej.png The one and only Underdog Millionaire and UCA CORPORATE Champion ... Copied to Clipboard!
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edwardsdv 05/05/12 2:29:00 PM #421: |
ANd on the topic of 50/50 booking, Lopen hit the nail on the head earlier.
Triple H may have never lost, but he also hardly ever went over 100% clean during the REIGN OF TERROR. He usually needed his stable and he usually needed a sledgehammer. It was a rare PPV title defense where he just hit the pedigree, 123. -- http://img.imgcake.com/nio/81edpngej.png The one and only Underdog Millionaire and UCA CORPORATE Champion ... Copied to Clipboard!
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EmDubyaSee 05/05/12 2:31:00 PM #422: |
From: edwardsdv | #421 I can think of one where he hit the Pedigree, waited for 30 seconds, and then pinned a black man 123.... -- From: Regaro_Ukiera | MWC is god-tier ... Copied to Clipboard!
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edwardsdv 05/05/12 2:33:00 PM #423: |
Well hey if we're gonna bring up Booker T, every time we talk about Triple H's reign, that fine T shouldve went over- im just saying.
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voltch 05/05/12 3:00:00 PM #424: |
Shane O' Mac's PPV record is ridiculous.
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TimJab 05/05/12 3:05:00 PM #425: |
What are the next few PPV gimmicks should Punk vs. AmDrag continue? I'd love an Ironman or Submission match. Or better yet, combine the two and bring back Ultimate Submission!
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TimJab 05/05/12 3:07:00 PM #426: |
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Rad Link 5 05/05/12 3:11:00 PM #427: |
From: TimJab | #425 Well, next is No Way Out, and then Money in the Bank and SummerSlam. But I don't think this continues. From: TimJab | #426 Looks like they changed it a little from the last time we saw it. The YES! YES! YES! was moved to the right, for instance.  -- Ace Detective in Sir Chris' Police http://i51.tinypic.com/24mgemb.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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JaKyL25 05/05/12 3:59:00 PM #428: |
From: TimJab | #425 This PPV has no gimmick, then the next three are: Steel Cage No gimmick (for the title matches) No gimmick -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. http://www.wwe.com/f/styles/photo_large/public/photo/image/2012/04/33_Moscow_04112012jg_02128.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MartinFF7 05/05/12 4:28:00 PM #429: |
I hope that image implies AJ interferes so DB wins the title from Punk.
...and then she becomes a domineering presence in his life which facilitates his shift back from heel to face. Or not. Just so long as DB beats Punk. Serious question about Sheamus (looking at you Jakyl): other than the fast count/DB ref match recently, can you tell me the last time Sheamus, in a 1 on 1 match: -Lost (uncleanly) -Straight-up lost cleanly I didn't watch Summerslam, was that clean (relatively)? -- I'll see you in Hell! (From Heaven!) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Wanglicious 05/05/12 4:29:00 PM #430: |
well, i do remember sheamus losing to jericho via countout recently.
so that'd be the answer to the first. -- The King Wang. Listen up Urinal Cake. I already have something that tells me if I'm too drunk when I pee on it: My friends. - Colbert. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Wanglicious 05/05/12 4:32:00 PM #431: |
...man. so the answer's countout to both, isn't it.
jericho = dirty loss via countout (dragon dropkicked him outside) henry = clean loss via countout sheamus, master of the countouts. then again henry seems to pick a lot more wins like that lately too (including over Punk). -- The King Wang. Listen up Urinal Cake. I already have something that tells me if I'm too drunk when I pee on it: My friends. - Colbert. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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XIII_rocks 05/05/12 4:32:00 PM #432: |
He lost cleanly to Henry at Summerslam but it was via countout.
He lost to Del Rio during...October? When Del Rio was WWE Champion. Christian interfered and ADR won with the top-rope Enziguri he does (that is awesome, just like basically all of ADR's moves). Last clean loss would be the no DQ match with Orton in which he was punted as a way to write him out of Capitol Punishment (he was basically a tweener between then and when he confronted Henry pre-Summerslam, tbqh. Wrestled people like Barrett for instance, attacked both Orton and Christian indiscriminately). -- 'Well said, magic japanese catmonster created by a genetic experiment with powers that far exceed those of his fellow Pokemon. Well said.' - Jon Stewart ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Panthera 05/05/12 4:37:00 PM #433: |
From: edwardsdv | #420 What They've established that Punk still respects Bryan and thinks fairly highly of him even while he's been heel, Punk's the kind of guy who looks forward to a challenge, it's entirely fitting and in character for him to be eager to have a challenger he thinks is good enough to give him a good match. -- We clasped our hands, our hands in praise of a conquerors right to tyranny ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MartinFF7 05/05/12 4:37:00 PM #434: |
I think the point I was making is that they don't even want to see Sheamus get pinned unless the dirtiest ways possible - the D Bry fast count & the clear ADR interference from XIII's example. I mean, there's nothing else since he turned face...?
EDIT: just found the ADR/Sheamus match, October 14. Interference from Ricardo and Christian and the best part - Sheamus "kicks out" of the pin immediately after the ref says 3 to end the match. Like getting pinned was SO BAD he had to show he wasn't that pinnable so had to immediately lift his shoulder. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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edwardsdv 05/05/12 4:40:00 PM #435: |
From: Panthera | #434 But respects him why? Unless youre going to go the "Theyre old friends in kayfabe (silimar to R Truth and Cena or Ryder and Cena) just accept it" theyre referencing material that doesnt exist kayfabe for the basis of this relationship. And its not like during the Elimination Chamber build he went out and applauded everyone who qualified. This is clearly Bryan specific. -- http://img.imgcake.com/nio/81edpngej.png The one and only Underdog Millionaire and UCA CORPORATE Champion ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SmartMuffin 05/05/12 4:41:00 PM #436: |
Why is MITB PPV even around? I thought they got rid of it!
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XIII_rocks 05/05/12 4:45:00 PM #437: |
From: MartinFF7 | #433 Yep. Nothing wrong with that. ADR's striking finisher isn't actually that credible so I'm surprised it pinned him in the first place tbqh -- http://www.funnycorner.net/funny-pictures/4834/big-boss.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Panthera 05/05/12 4:45:00 PM #438: |
From: edwardsdv | #435 For one thing, the fact that Bryan and Punk know each prior to the WWE and had pre-WWE careers is entirely within WWE kayfabe; it's been alluded to for both men time and time again and they even had a backstage segment before one of their matches prior to Wrestlemania to establish that they respect each other. Hell, you can go way back to NXT season 1 for the first signs of Punk thinking highly of Bryan. -- Mistake you're making - overlooking the fact that we might not want to be saved. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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XIII_rocks 05/05/12 4:46:00 PM #439: |
Punk and Bryan's past relationship has been referenced several times since Bryan won the WHC. The night of their first Champion vs. Champion, most notably, as well as the night after TLC. Then there's the WWE.com article JaKyL posted it that references it. Their past matches in indie feds are acknowledged in WWE kayfabe.
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XIII_rocks 05/05/12 4:46:00 PM #440: |
Panthera'd.
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JaKyL25 05/05/12 4:55:00 PM #441: |
From: SmartMuffin | #436 If you believe dirtsheets, they were GOING to get rid of it in favor of just having one again at WM, but Wade Barrett was the chosen winner and when Big Show injured him, they scrapped those plans, kept the PPV, and just went with Team Johnny vs. Team Teddy for the WM multi-man instead. Are there going to be two again even though there isn't really any brand sep enforcement? No one knows. -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. http://www.wwe.com/f/styles/photo_large/public/photo/image/2012/04/33_Moscow_04112012jg_02128.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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XIII_rocks 05/05/12 4:57:00 PM #442: |
Big Show costing Wade Barrett the world/WWE title remains the single most "augh f*** you Big Show" thing ever
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Rad Link 5 05/05/12 4:57:00 PM #443: |
From: MartinFF7 | #433 I hate when guys do this. It just reeks of self-interest. Sheamus and Big Show are the kings of this recently. -- Ace Detective in Sir Chris' Police I assure you, my dear, all Ace Detectives are perfect gentlemen! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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XIII_rocks 05/05/12 4:58:00 PM #444: |
Yes, even moreso than Show taking the IC title off Cody
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JaKyL25 05/05/12 4:59:00 PM #445: |
From: Rad Link 5 | #443 That's not something they decide on their own. That part is booked by the agents. -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. http://www.wwe.com/f/styles/photo_large/public/photo/image/2012/04/33_Moscow_04112012jg_02128.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rad Link 5 05/05/12 5:02:00 PM #446: |
From: Jakyl25 | #445 For the sake of argument, is there any way of actually knowing it's not something the person decided to do on their own when it happens? If Big Show kicks out after three against Cody Rhodes despite not being told to, is anyone actually going to say anything to him backstage? -- Ace Detective in Sir Chris' Police http://fast1.onesite.com/capcom-unity.com/user/jgonzo/large/4958fc9d9dfd6917713402cae21a3e0e.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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JaKyL25 05/05/12 5:07:00 PM #447: |
From: Rad Link 5 | #446 If word got to Vince about it, I imagine there would be words with him towards the offender. He's very much a micro-manager and a control freak. -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. http://www.wwe.com/f/styles/photo_large/public/photo/image/2012/04/33_Moscow_04112012jg_02128.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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JaKyL25 05/05/12 5:10:00 PM #448: |
Like, take that Jericho/Big Show ref botch on Raw. Jericho was SUPPOSED to beat the clock by 1 second. The ref mistimed the 10-count and botched it. In the long run it changed nothing, since Bryan was always meant to be the challenger, but ex-employees on Twitter were like "I would NOT want to be that ref right now."
Vince definitely cares about a smooth operation (or at least what he perceives as such). -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. http://www.wwe.com/f/styles/photo_large/public/photo/image/2012/04/33_Moscow_04112012jg_02128.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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JaKyL25 05/05/12 5:17:00 PM #449: |
So long story short, if mega faces kicking out at 4 offends you, blame Billy Kidman/Dean Malenko/Jamie Noble <_<
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Rad Link 5 05/05/12 5:17:00 PM #450: |
Alright, fair enough.
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