Board 8 > Reminder: Friendzoning doesn't exist.

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DragonsDance
05/01/12 8:17:00 PM
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She doesn't pass you up arbitrarily because "you're good friends".

She just isn't attracted to you.
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MRNlCEWATCH
05/01/12 8:19:00 PM
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Guys can friendzone girls, but for girls what you said is 100% accurate

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DragonsDance
05/01/12 8:20:00 PM
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MRNlCEWATCH posted...
Guys can friendzone girls, but for girls what you said is 100% accurate

Neither friendzones the other, barring some extreme mental deficiency.
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MRNlCEWATCH
05/01/12 8:21:00 PM
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you right

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Jeff Zero
05/01/12 8:23:00 PM
#5:


It's the truth with most women I've experienced.

Read that as you will.

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RyokIes
05/01/12 8:24:00 PM
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pretty much. i dated my best friend when i was in high school so yeah

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PartOfYourWorld
05/01/12 8:28:00 PM
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Obviously she wouldn't be attracted to you, but it might not be for physical liabilities like obesity or ugliness. You could be a decent looking pansy, that'd do it too.

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DragonsDance
05/02/12 12:13:00 AM
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PartOfYourWorld posted...
Obviously she wouldn't be attracted to you, but it might not be for physical liabilities like obesity or ugliness. You could be a decent looking pansy, that'd do it too.

Pretty much.

The point is that she's not just arbitrarily ignoring the prospectives. There are none.
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DragonsDance
05/02/12 12:17:00 AM
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UltimaterializerX posted...
You clearly have experience being friendzoned on the regular.

Not really considering it doesn't exist :)

Also, there have only been two instances that come to mind that would even qualify.
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Meow1000
05/02/12 12:20:00 AM
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I've both friendzoned people and been friendzoned.

Oddly enough I've done it more than its been done to me though. Its usually the other way around.

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ExThaNemesis
05/02/12 12:22:00 AM
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That's what being LJBF'd is, dude.

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DragonsDance
05/02/12 12:22:00 AM
#13:


Meow1000 posted...
I've both friendzoned people and been friendzoned.

Oddly enough I've done it more than its been done to me though. Its usually the other way around.


You've never been friendzoned, and if you're friendzoning people you have some massive issues to work around.
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Pacmantis
05/02/12 12:24:00 AM
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ExThaNemesis posted...
That's what being LJBF'd is, dude.

what is this devil acronym

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DragonsDance
05/02/12 12:25:00 AM
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Pacmantis posted...
ExThaNemesis posted...
That's what being LJBF'd is, dude.

what is this devil acronym


Lets Just Be Friend'd
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DragonsDance
05/02/12 12:29:00 AM
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UltimaterializerX posted...
From: DragonsDance | #010
Not really considering it doesn't exist :)
It does for ugly people. Beta males will never experience how women actually act, but girls are also incapable of not letting a guy down easily, especially when most men are pathetic enough to give any remotely attractive woman anything she wants. If some girl can keep a provider around without ever sleeping with them, of course they'll do it and I don't blame them. Any pathetic man deserves to be treated that way. The quickest way to get friendzoned by every girl you know is putting them on a pedestal they don't deserve.


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Dark Young Link
05/02/12 12:32:00 AM
#18:


It's true though.

Gotta have respect for yourself if you expect anything worthwhile from anyone else, especially the opposite sex. Granted I'm both inexperienced and believe that sex should be a spiritual thing, but it makes sense that putting someone on a pedestal is a free pass for them using you.



Though I personally consider friendzoning and the ladder theory to be the same thing, excuses.

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UItimaterializer
05/02/12 12:33:00 AM
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From: DragonsDance | #017
This is what Ulti actually believes.


Standard beta defense of pretending it doesn't exist, nothing to see here.

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Dark Young Link
05/02/12 12:36:00 AM
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Isn't using his facebook like that kind of a low blow though?

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DragonsDance
05/02/12 12:38:00 AM
#21:


Dark Young Link posted...
It's true though.

Gotta have respect for yourself if you expect anything worthwhile from anyone else, especially the opposite sex. Granted I'm both inexperienced and believe that sex should be a spiritual thing, but it makes sense that putting someone on a pedestal is a free pass for them using you.



Though I personally consider friendzoning and the ladder theory to be the same thing, excuses.


Oh I don't deny that there are girls that act that way, but they aren't actually interested in you. But yeah, the whole point is that you shouldn't whine or blame the girl because they don't want to date you, which is essentially what "friendzone" boils down to.
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UItimaterializer
05/02/12 12:39:00 AM
#22:


For people who want actual dating advice: http://heartiste.wordpress.com/

You know that old saying about 20% of men sleeping with 80% of the women? It's more like 10%/90% these days with stories coming out from Japan about men finding sex disgusting, among other hilarious emasculated nonsense. If you so much as have a pulse and a body temperature in the 90s, you should easily be able to pick up any girl you want. It's never been easier.

Someone fetch realo, Sess and ExTha and get them into this topic. We literally have living Board 8 proof of this.

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Pacmantis
05/02/12 12:39:00 AM
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UItimaterializer posted...
From: DragonsDance | #013
You've never been friendzoned, and if you're friendzoning people you have some massive issues to work around.
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1 - Life accomplishments while pushing 30 include "community college undergrad" and "cashier".
2 - Not smart enough to hide personal info from the people he trolls -- which speaks to that whole community college thing, and this guy being in any education program helps show why American children are so dumb.
3 - Claims the friendzone doesn't exist.
4 - Claims others have issues when this topic makes the truth rather clear.
5 - Pretty obvious from that picture why he gets rejected by women.

This is the prototypical beta male, my friends. Take notes so you don't end up 30 with nothing relevant in your life outside trolling some half-dead gaming forum.


Well that was kind of mean.

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DragonsDance
05/02/12 12:41:00 AM
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Dark Young Link posted...
Isn't using his facebook like that kind of a low blow though?

Lol there isn't much on there that he can troll me with, nor is there anything on there that isn't common knowledge on here. He'll I welcome questions XD

As for ulti's trolling, just ignore it. He barely knows anything that he's talking about on there XD
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UItimaterializer
05/02/12 12:43:00 AM
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From: DragonsDance | #026
He'll I welcome questions


Given the actual reasoning you have behind friendzoning, why the claim about beta males not even existing? I'll assume you'll actually be mature and answer legitimately instead of the standard 'nope doesn't exist' garbage you spew out, because I'm legitimately curious how the beta mind works these days.

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UItimaterializer
05/02/12 12:44:00 AM
#26:


From: Dark Young Link | #022
Isn't using his facebook like that kind of a low blow though?


Not for someone who trolls and gets personal as often as he does. During some argument about League of Legends, he PMd me multiple times to try claiming Lopen, Chris and FD were among the dumbest people on this board. Think about how sad that is to PM me instead of them, about an argument related to a game I've only played one time.

I mean attack me all you want, I couldn't care less, but attack my friends and you deserve everything you get.

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Mer_Mer_Yes_Mer
05/02/12 12:45:00 AM
#27:


From: UItimaterializer | #024
For people who want actual dating advice: http://heartiste.wordpress.com/


find one of these that applies to me

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UItimaterializer
05/02/12 12:45:00 AM
#28:


Actually yeah, this was kind of harsh. Apologies.

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UItimaterializer
05/02/12 12:45:00 AM
#29:


Same here as post 18.

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UItimaterializer
05/02/12 12:47:00 AM
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From: Mer_Mer_Yes_Mer | #029
find one of these that applies to me


You're a gay guy and have already slept with more women than most of Board 8. Pretty sure you're covered on the game front, bro.

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Seginustemple
05/02/12 12:47:00 AM
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There doesn't have to be a friendzone. You're just not in the ****able zone.

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Mer_Mer_Yes_Mer
05/02/12 12:49:00 AM
#32:


From: UItimaterializer | #031
You're a gay guy and have already slept with more women than most of Board 8. Pretty sure you're covered on the game front, bro.


I meant in terms of sleeping with guys god Ulti

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Westbrick
05/02/12 12:51:00 AM
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Um, women can friendzone attractive guys. That happens all the time, actually. If you come off as passive and unconfident, that's usually the end of the attraction. Friendzoning as a phenomenon should be trivially obvious.

What I find much more interesting is that guys tend to have their own "zoning" system, although it rarely gets talked about. While girls distinguish between guys they'd have a romantic relationship with and guys who are only friends, I have a theory that guys always distinguish between girls who are bangable and girls who are datable. Because unless the girl is really attractive, some drunk chick you meet at a party (and who's willing to sleep with you day one) is going to come across as easy, insecure, unreliable / possibly untrustworthy, and typically a one-and-done deal. Whereas the cute tease who plays tough to get always seems to be the one sought after more seriously.

I think I'm on to something, but maybe not. It's 4 in the morning, who the hell knows why I'm even up right now

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Dark Young Link
05/02/12 12:52:00 AM
#34:


UItimaterializer posted...
For people who want actual dating advice: http://heartiste.wordpress.com/


I'm... not sure if that's right for me. While I do want to avoid being used, manipulated, etc... it doesn't sit well with me the whole mistreating women thing pick up artists seem to do.


Though in my case what I need is more to the tune of "helpful notes for the future" since I've decided I'm not dating until I get some of my **** together. Still, I'd rather not go in blind.

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Robazoid
05/02/12 12:53:00 AM
#35:


*Checks Ulti's link*

"Beta males are screwed because women are getting fatter lol"

Huh.

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UItimaterializer
05/02/12 12:55:00 AM
#36:


You're a beta in that department, Mer, unless you've changed this past year.

I feel bad for you. Gay guys have this rep for sleeping with anything, when you are seriously the pickiest people out there. This post isn't meant as an insult either, seriously.

I will say though that the same principles of game apply. I've lost count of how many times some guy bought me drinks at a gay club, only for me to go "I'm married dude and my wife is right there, but thanks for the shots, had a great time with you!". It's absolutely awesome.

And guys complain that only girls get stuff for free, too. Total BS.

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UItimaterializer
05/02/12 12:56:00 AM
#37:


From: Robazoid | #035
*Checks Ulti's link*

"Beta males are screwed because women are getting fatter lol"

Huh.

*Closes Ulti's link*


That's actually true.

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Westbrick
05/02/12 12:56:00 AM
#38:


I'm... not sure if that's right for me. While I do want to avoid being used, manipulated, etc... it doesn't sit well with me the whole mistreating women thing pick up artists seem to do.

What if I told you that you could have the girl of your dreams, and could treat her well for most of your relationship, but needed to be an ass to set off that initial spark? Because that's reality, for better or worse. This approach has worked pretty well for me in the past: begin by being a condescending and dismissive jerk, and once you have her, sprinkle around the occasional assertion of dominance; otherwise, you can be a good beta boyfriend!

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Mer_Mer_Yes_Mer
05/02/12 12:57:00 AM
#39:


From: UItimaterializer | #036
You're a beta in that department, Mer, unless you've changed this past year.

I feel bad for you. Gay guys have this rep for sleeping with anything, when you are seriously the pickiest people out there. This post isn't meant as an insult either, seriously.


No, this is all totally correct and I agree.

Do you really feel like seducing men and seducing women can be done the exact same way?

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Robazoid
05/02/12 12:57:00 AM
#40:


For the record I'm such an absolute beta that my basic plan is prostitution until I either become famous somehow or I hit that fabled age where girls stop partying and decide to settle

Still a dumb theory though

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DragonsDance
05/02/12 12:58:00 AM
#41:


Dark Young Link posted...
UItimaterializer posted...
For people who want actual dating advice: http://heartiste.wordpress.com/


I'm... not sure if that's right for me. While I do want to avoid being used, manipulated, etc... it doesn't sit well with me the whole mistreating women thing pick up artists seem to do.


Though in my case what I need is more to the tune of "helpful notes for the future" since I've decided I'm not dating until I get some of my **** together. Still, I'd rather not go in blind.


Sounds like you're right where you need to be mindset wise. Or at the very least leagues more reliable for dating advice than Ulti will ever be.
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UItimaterializer
05/02/12 12:59:00 AM
#42:


From: Mer_Mer_Yes_Mer | #039
No, this is all totally correct and I agree.

Do you really feel like seducing men and seducing women can be done the exact same way?


I wouldn't know, and I'm not pretending I would. I can get gay guys to hit on me pretty easily though, for whatever that's worth. Confidence is confidence, and I would guess it works on anyone drawn toward it?

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Westbrick
05/02/12 1:00:00 AM
#43:


Sounds like you're right where you need to be mindset wise. Or at the very least leagues more reliable for dating advice than Ulti will ever be.

Honest question: how does this make sense?

If you want hook-ups, acting alpha makes things easier.

If you want a relationship, acting alpha makes things easier.

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Dark Young Link
05/02/12 1:00:00 AM
#44:


Westbrick posted...
I'm... not sure if that's right for me. While I do want to avoid being used, manipulated, etc... it doesn't sit well with me the whole mistreating women thing pick up artists seem to do.

What if I told you that you could have the girl of your dreams, and could treat her well for most of your relationship, but needed to be an ass to set off that initial spark? Because that's reality, for better or worse. This approach has worked pretty well for me in the past: begin by being a condescending and dismissive jerk, and once you have her, sprinkle around the occasional assertion of dominance; otherwise, you can be a good beta boyfriend!


Yeah.... I'm really not good at intentionally being a jerk. I was under the impression that assertiveness and confidence would be good substitutes.

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Mer_Mer_Yes_Mer
05/02/12 1:00:00 AM
#45:


From: UItimaterializer | #042
I wouldn't know, and I'm not pretending I would. I can get gay guys to hit on me pretty easily though, for whatever that's worth. Confidence is confidence, and I would guess it works on anyone drawn toward it?


I mean, I guess.

God I'm glad he's leaving for the military in 3 weeks, I need to think about this **** less.

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Seginustemple
05/02/12 1:00:00 AM
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I don't think beta/alpha is so clear though. What would Ron Paul think? When judging individuals he'd probably reserve broad, sweeping terms such as "beta male" and judge them based on their own unique character and experience. What would Tim Tebow be? Clearly he could be an alpha male if he wanted to, does his conscious decision to shy away from sex make him a beta male?

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UItimaterializer
05/02/12 1:03:00 AM
#47:


From: DragonsDance | #041
Or at the very least leagues more reliable for dating advice than Ulti will ever be.


I love how someone who has trolled this board for years still sucks at it so much. But hey I've only slept with over 200 girls and my marriage is almost 7 years old, so you're right bro I know nothing about picking up women, commitment or anything else. We should all take dating advice from you instead, since a guy who literally cries over League of Legends (what a funny day that was) clearly has all the confidence he needs to accomplish this.

Woe is me for not seeing the light sooner!

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Westbrick
05/02/12 1:04:00 AM
#48:


I don't think beta/alpha is so clear though. What would Ron Paul think?

LOL

What would Tim Tebow be? Clearly he could be an alpha male if he wanted to, does his conscious decision to shy away from sex make him a beta male?

I've thought about this long and hard. There's a legit chance that Tebow is a closeted gay, but setting aside that possibility, I feel he's more alpha than beta on balance. He chooses not to have sex for religious reasons (and given his devotion, I see no reason to doubt him), but it's no secret that he's hooked up with tons of hot chicks / "girlfriends." Nothing about being a good Christian precludes you from being an alpha!

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Westbrick
05/02/12 1:04:00 AM
#49:


But hey I've only slept with over 200 girls

No you haven't bro, come on.

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WhoopsyDaisy
05/02/12 1:05:00 AM
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FRIENDZONING: A GAY PERSPECTIVE

Does friendzoning count if it's to avoid being a homewrecker? Because there's a guy I'd totally go for if I wasn't friends with both him and his boyfriend, or if he was single. In fact, if he and his boyfriend break up, I'm probably gonna go for it eventually, but I'm intentionally playing my cards really close to my chest regarding the fact that I think he's smexxxy because I want him to be happy more than I wanna sleep with him.

Also, I had a "let's just be friends" breakup once, and it was the most mutual thing in the entire world. "I don't think we should be dating anymore." "Me neither." "Wanna go to Dave and Buster's?" "Okay!" Again, not quite sure that was friendzoning, because it was a natural breakup that happened organically and now we're still friends. I don't wanna hook up with him again, though, because it ended really well last time and I don't wanna take that chance again, so maybe he's friendzoned now :/

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