Board 8 > Playstation Vita has no games - Shigeru Miyamoto

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Ayuyu
05/04/12 6:29:00 AM
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http://www.psu.com/Shigeru-Miyamoto-criticises-PlayStation-Vita--a015251-p0.php

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The Mana Sword
05/04/12 6:33:00 AM
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He's not wrong.

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GuessMyUserName
05/04/12 6:35:00 AM
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.... he hardly even criticizes Vita at all in that article

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The Mana Sword
05/04/12 6:35:00 AM
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www.psu.com

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Ayuyu
05/04/12 6:36:00 AM
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From: GuessMyUserName | #003
.... he hardly even criticizes Vita at all in that article


I had an article that went more in details, but it's in French and I can't find anything similar in Inglès.

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Ayuyu
05/04/12 6:37:00 AM
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Oh, this I guess : http://www.edge-online.com/news/miyamoto-vita-needs-games

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GuessMyUserName
05/04/12 6:41:00 AM
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so he even says "this was also the case with our 3DS"

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The Mana Sword
05/04/12 6:41:00 AM
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That article makes him look even better because he (rightfully) criticizes the 3DS launch!

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transcience
05/04/12 6:41:00 AM
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I've learned not to take Ayuyu topic titles seriously

even quotes aren't safe from his cluelessness!

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wg64Z
05/04/12 6:42:00 AM
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Ayuyu...ugh.
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PrivateBiscuit1
05/04/12 6:45:00 AM
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Ayuyu is such a terrible user.

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ninkendo
05/04/12 7:15:00 AM
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Shigeru? More like Shegayru! Go make some more cutesie games with flowers and mushrooms!


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voltch
05/04/12 7:15:00 AM
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FateStayAyuyu

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CycloRaptor
05/04/12 7:27:00 AM
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at least the link isn't to kotaku

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voltch
05/04/12 7:31:00 AM
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From: The Mana Sword | #004
www.psu.com



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JDTAY
05/04/12 7:33:00 AM
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E3 is only one month away, and Gravity Rush shortly after that.

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pjbasis
05/04/12 7:35:00 AM
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I wanna see the rest of that interview!

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GenesisTwilight
05/04/12 8:08:00 AM
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From: The Mana Sword | #008
That article makes him look even better because he (rightfully) criticizes the 3DS launch!


Pretty much all of Nintendo agrees (and they're not shy about it) that the 3DS launch was a disaster, so it's not like this is breaking news.

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GuessMyUserName
05/04/12 8:26:00 AM
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yeah Nintendo's been saying for ages how they messed up their launch by having no heavy hitters

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GuessMyUserName
05/04/12 8:37:00 AM
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*goes to nintendoeverything for some newz and sees the same article*

"Miyamoto praises the Vita hardware!"



what a world when sony sites are spreading vita hate and nintendo sites are spreading vita praise, all from the same interview

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ZFS
05/04/12 8:59:00 AM
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Miyamoto carries himself well in interviews, better than people who makes headlines about him! He praised Vita's hardware, but said it lacks compelling software. I'm sure he understands well after the 3DS launch!

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Wanglicious
05/04/12 9:05:00 AM
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man.
this topic.

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Mr Crispy
05/04/12 11:01:00 AM
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this is news?

I mean the PSP pretty much had no big system sellers until like, 2009. Long after the system was on life support because most western developers and retailers pulled their support like a year or year and a half after it was released.

The vibe I get from the Vita is that not only have they not learned from their mistakes but also they made a bunch of new ones.

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voltch
05/04/12 11:12:00 AM
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I will end up buying both systems.

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swirIdude
05/04/12 12:20:00 PM
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From: CycloRaptor | #014
at least the link isn't to kotaku



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ZFS
05/04/12 12:25:00 PM
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The game issue with Vita right now is that it lacks a Mario, a big game from a popular series that makes people want to purchase the system. It has a good lineup of unique games, but those never sell systems. It needs something like MGS, something to make people want the system.

It would help to bundle memory cards, as well.

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The Mana Sword
05/04/12 12:28:00 PM
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It has a good lineup of unique games

Debatable!

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Wanglicious
05/04/12 12:31:00 PM
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psh, you coulda said that for the 3DS 4 months in too!
price is the game. 3ds sold like hot cakes even BEFORE the Mario duo came out due to the drop. if they want to appeal with software they're gonna need a looot more than just mgs.

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GuessMyUserName
05/04/12 12:31:00 PM
#29:


I'm hoping to get a Vita this month (just waiting to get paid back 500 I lent my brother >_>)....... but there's really no game I'm planning on buying until p4p

but I never had a PSP so I'll be busy with that

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Icon Tang
05/04/12 12:32:00 PM
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I don't know how much a memory card bundle would help. Maybe it'd sell a few extra copies to enthusiasts, but the Vita lacks any appealing title. As cool as the Gravity Rush demo is, that game is not it.

Sony should seriously think about a 3G contract-subsidized Vita. That might get it over the hump while developers ready the next wave of games.

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Weakupedia
05/04/12 12:32:00 PM
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ZFS posted...
The game issue with Vita right now is that it lacks a Mario, a big game from a popular series that makes people want to purchase the system. It has a good lineup of unique games, but those never sell systems. It needs something like MGS, something to make people want the system.

It would help to bundle memory cards, as well.


right now i only want one game on it

and i am probably the only person in the world that wants a vita for that game

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Icon Tang
05/04/12 12:35:00 PM
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Rayman, Lumines, Katamari, Super Stardust - it has some worthwhile games already

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Icon Tang
05/04/12 12:35:00 PM
#33:


don't forget ganon, weaku

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ZFS
05/04/12 12:41:00 PM
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A price drop isn't going to happen, I don't think. A $199 Vita would sell much more than it is now, but Sony is much more willing to ride these things out. It isn't as crucial to their business as Nintendo, it isn't the core that everything revolves around. That doesn't mean they don't care, but I don't think they'll react like Nintendo did.

They need E3 to announce some big games. Gravity Daze, MGS HD Collection, Sound Shapes, Persona 4 Golden, and Max Technika are some cool 'smaller' games coming out this year in the US, but none of them are what MGS4 was to the PS3. I think getting a few big name exclusives--not on the 3DS, not on consoles--is what it needs. Putting memory into the package just makes the $250 more of a solid price, no extra purchase needed.

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ZFS
05/04/12 12:46:00 PM
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Icon Tang posted...
Rayman, Lumines, Katamari, Super Stardust - it has some worthwhile games already

Wipeout and Hot Shots Golf are two good ones, too!

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Icon Tang
05/04/12 12:53:00 PM
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Wipeout's load times are gross! Have they fixed it yet? The game is probably great (it's Wipeout, after all) but if it's plagued with problems, it's probably best to stick with the PS3 version.

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ZFS
05/04/12 12:55:00 PM
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Yeah, they patched it, I believe. Not sure what they are now.

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GuessMyUserName
05/04/12 12:56:00 PM
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oh yeah I finally tried a demo unit for the first time the other day!

dat d-pad truly is amazing. hope the PS4 controller follows suit!

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LeonhartFour
05/04/12 12:58:00 PM
#39:


From: transcience | #009
I've learned not to take Ayuyu topic titles seriously

even quotes aren't safe from his cluelessness!


Well, someone had to take up the mantle with Albion MIA.

Although I'm not sure Ayuyu does it intentionally like Albion did.

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ZFS
05/04/12 1:00:00 PM
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But yeah, I think the Vita has good games already, more and better ones than the 3DS had, but it lacks a big game that makes people comfortable with $250. That's what they need at E3.

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Icon Tang
05/04/12 1:04:00 PM
#41:


GuessMyUserName posted...
oh yeah I finally tried a demo unit for the first time the other day!

dat d-pad truly is amazing. hope the PS4 controller follows suit!


what do you think of the analogs? They feel really flimsy to me. It's probably not much of an issue unless you're playing Uncharted

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GuessMyUserName
05/04/12 1:08:00 PM
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yeah I used the exact same word to describe the sticks to nio the other day, eh

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ZFS
05/04/12 1:11:00 PM
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really? better or worse than the 3ds slide pad?

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Jeff Zero
05/04/12 1:12:00 PM
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I liked the feel of the sticks from my brief time with a demo unit. I'll have to check again in a little while here...

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swordz9
05/04/12 1:15:00 PM
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Only tried a display model, but the analogs felt worse than the 3DS slide pad. Vita has some games that look good, but none I really want enough to buy a Vita before a price drop or new model.

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ZFS
05/04/12 1:16:00 PM
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Yeesh. The 3DS slide pad is awful, so that's no good.

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Wanglicious
05/04/12 1:33:00 PM
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i.... wouldn't be so quick to say that the vita has "more and better." let's not forget that the Vita launched in December over in Japan, Feb over here. if you take the former you're looking at 5 months into its life - and 5 months into the DS' life would be Septmeber 2011, where it already was starting to hit its stride as it murdered from month 5 to 9. reason for using Japan as a more logical base comes from the person who said this in the first place - i'd expect Shiggy to be much more familiar with how the system's games are over there than over here. Vita... honestly loses that battle. it's not that the 3DS was particularly STRONG for the first 4 months, but between the price drop + the quickly improving library it wasn't BAD as far as launch systems go. and before it finished 9 months it pretty much became one of the best first years a system had - and that was before Kid Icarus.

if you go by the US release then by that point the 3DS did have SSF4, Ghost Recon, OoT (June release - 3 months), DoA, Monkey Ball, and one or two more. yeah, nothing really standout in that grouping save the N64 upgraded port, but that's also a problem the Vita has right now, with similar level games for the smaller titles too; it doesn't help that a lot of the games are either ports or games that might as well be ports because the dev took on the "handheld entry" route, similar to how the PSP went (see: R&C, AC, GoW) with a lot of its titles. stuff like Ace Combat X for the PSP was a rarity in that the handheld entry was every bit as good as the console one.


i do agree sony won't be dropping the price, and a memory card bundle would be a start, but that just resembles the way the PSP went: weak start, a barren middle, a fantastic end of its life that actually EXTENDED the system by two years. and sony will most certainly be happy if the Vita turns out to be as successful as the PSP was. just that you can expect a lot of the same criticisms as well as the same problems.

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tazzyboyishere
05/04/12 1:38:00 PM
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So he states the truth and then criticizes his own past problems.

What a terrible human being

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ZFS
05/04/12 1:39:00 PM
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I was talking about the US dates for both. The quantity and quality is much better than the 3DS this far in, but again, it still lacks a big name game like the 3DS did. Vita won't sell as much as the PSP did, and it'll likely see more success in Western markets versus Japan, the reverse of the 3DS, but it shouldn't take 'years' for it to be a good platform.

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GranzonEx
05/04/12 2:10:00 PM
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Still waiting for a Vita redesign that fixes the right stick location.

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