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ScorpioVS
05/08/12 12:17:00 PM
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No one talking about this?

http://pc.ign.com/articles/122/1224248p1.html

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Ayuyu
05/08/12 12:20:00 PM
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No, because it's already dead, I've never seen a MMO announcement get a backslash as strong as ESO's one.

Seriously nobody's happy with it, some people simply don't want TES to become a MMO and the rest hates the fact that it's third person with regular hotkey mmo combat, instanced zones, etc etc.

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ScorpioVS
05/08/12 12:21:00 PM
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What!? When Skyrim came out everyone was like "OMG THIS SHOULD BE ONLINE ELDER SCROLLS MMO CMON CMON CMON". Fans suck.

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KingButz
05/08/12 12:21:00 PM
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There was a topic about it a couple days ago

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Liquid Wind
05/08/12 12:22:00 PM
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some people simply don't want TES to become a MMO

hilarious because elder scrolls is literally all of the bad mundane things about MMO's but without the fun of playing with thousands of people
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Robazoid
05/08/12 12:22:00 PM
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It'll run up against the brick wall that is WoW and die an immediate death. Why talk about it?

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Metal_DK
05/08/12 12:28:00 PM
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^ thats only true if it is indeed a wow clone. Some games have deviated a little from wow, but nobody has tried something major.

Well, eve has. But that game isnt a casual mmo, so ya.

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TheOceIot
05/08/12 12:30:00 PM
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There was plenty of discussion about it when it was announced.

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KokoroAkechi
05/08/12 12:32:00 PM
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Like I said before. RIFT is like almost a carbon copy of WoW except it has slightly different mechanics and a more interesting world experience.

It's probably the most popular P2P MMO after WoW

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Mik_Pick
05/08/12 12:50:00 PM
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The main problem I see with it is that the announcement clearly refers to World of Warcraft, admitting that it's essentially a clone.

If I wanted to play WoW I'd play WoW.

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Ayuyu
05/08/12 12:51:00 PM
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Yeah, problem with TES is that its Lore isn't a big draw for most of its fanbase, the bulk of TES players play it for the open world and the exploration, the MMO won't have these things.

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Robazoid
05/08/12 12:52:00 PM
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I play TES so I can go full sneak and see how many bandits I can kill without ever being caught using insta-kill sneak attacks.

Bet the MMO won't let me do that.

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CycloRaptor
05/08/12 12:52:00 PM
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hilarious because elder scrolls is literally all of the bad mundane things about MMO's but without the fun of playing with thousands of people

as an elder scrolls fan, i dont care if the series has an mmo entry, but i personally would probably never bother with it precisely because i hate playing with other people. gaming is me time, not my social life.

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Ayuyu
05/08/12 12:54:00 PM
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From: Liquid Wind | #005
some people simply don't want TES to become a MMO

hilarious because elder scrolls is literally all of the bad mundane things about MMO's but without the fun of playing with thousands of people


I see you don't play many MMOs.

Because TES and most MMOs share almost nothing.

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Jeff Zero
05/08/12 12:55:00 PM
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ScorpioVS, have you seen the NeoGAF thread detailing what's to come with this game? Or rather, does that article reference it?

Either way the backlash causes are fairly obvious once that's been read IMO.

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Ayuyu
05/08/12 12:58:00 PM
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http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=472749

Read and weep.

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CycloRaptor
05/08/12 1:43:00 PM
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I am not a huge mmo guy, but what is so bad about that stuff? it doesnt sound too different from every other mmo...or is that the problem?

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Jeff Zero
05/08/12 1:46:00 PM
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CycloRaptor posted...
I am not a huge mmo guy, but what is so bad about that stuff? it doesnt sound too different from every other mmo...or is that the problem?

Well it's a problem for me at least because I don't really care for the way most MMOs do their stuff. As for MMO players, I dunno, maybe they're just getting tired of the MMO norm and were hoping for something more TES-flavored.

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CycloRaptor
05/08/12 1:47:00 PM
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I guess that just seems like it calls more for 'meh' or disinterest than backlash or weeping.

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CoolCly
05/08/12 1:48:00 PM
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CycloRaptor posted...
I am not a huge mmo guy, but what is so bad about that stuff? it doesnt sound too different from every other mmo...or is that the problem?




If they are going to make a TES MMO, why is it going to be like WoW and... not like TES?

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Ayuyu
05/08/12 1:51:00 PM
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If you go on the Bethsoft forum you'll see plenty of backslash!

And yeah people are getting extremely tired of the WoW formula, if Rift did good it's because it had a tremendous launch and Rifts which were actually pretty damn interesting, they'll soon be overshadowed by GW2 dynamic events though, so I bet it'll go F2P after GW2's release.

TESO seems to not want to do anything new, and it'll bite it in the ass.

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CycloRaptor
05/08/12 1:56:00 PM
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If you go on the Bethsoft forum you'll see plenty of backslash!

i was not saying there was no backlash...i was saying i don't get why there is so much.

if you like elder scrolls but don't really care for the sound of this MMO...then just don't get it? i can see whining about the main series that you are a fan of, but this is just an MMO side game.

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KommunistKoala
05/08/12 1:58:00 PM
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why do you keep saying backslash ayuyu

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CoolCly
05/08/12 1:59:00 PM
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They announce a game in the series.... and fans are not pleased.

Not sure what'/s hard to get about it. Of course there will be backlash.

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Liquid Wind
05/08/12 2:00:00 PM
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KommunistKoala posted...
why do you keep saying backslash ayuyu

because ayuyu is ayuyu
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CycloRaptor
05/08/12 2:00:00 PM
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why do you keep saying backslash ayuyu

oh god i didn't notice that....horrifying....

and

idk maybe i just don't care because i don't like MMOs that much. for example, I love final fantasy, but I don't care if FF14 sucks, because it isn't a jrpg like the rest of the series I love anyway, it is something different, so if it blows then I just won't play it.

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greengravy294
05/08/12 2:01:00 PM
#27:


Western RPG nerds rage about anything that doesn't please them.

Hello Mass Effect 3 ending crying and rage.

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Ayuyu
05/08/12 2:14:00 PM
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From: CycloRaptor | #022
If you go on the Bethsoft forum you'll see plenty of backslash!

i was not saying there was no backlash...i was saying i don't get why there is so much.

if you like elder scrolls but don't really care for the sound of this MMO...then just don't get it? i can see whining about the main series that you are a fan of, but this is just an MMO side game.


A lot of people have their reasons for being mad.

Some are scared it'll cause Bethesda to focus less on the single player games (don't see how)
Some are angry that when we finally get a game that spans all of Tamriel (players have been asking for it for years) it's a freaking WoW clone MMO
Some are scared the game will take a huge dump on the established lore.

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CoolCly
05/08/12 2:33:00 PM
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From: CycloRaptor | #026
why do you keep saying backslash ayuyu

oh god i didn't notice that....horrifying....

and

idk maybe i just don't care because i don't like MMOs that much. for example, I love final fantasy, but I don't care if FF14 sucks, because it isn't a jrpg like the rest of the series I love anyway, it is something different, so if it blows then I just won't play it.




Some people don't want a TES mmo at all. But a lot of people played Skyrim and were like "man, if this was multiplayer it would be awesome, make this an mmo!"

Then they announce a TES mmo and it's not like Skyrim at all, it's just like every other mmo. People are very understandably frustrated by this.

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Anagram
05/08/12 10:47:00 PM
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I won't be buying this game no matter what, but I can see where the naysayers are coming from. It's set 1000 years before Skyrim, which leaves everything open for retcons, but even if you assume the lore will be 100% consistent and there will be absolutely no problems (and that won't happen), there's no way an MMO will let any player murder any NPC and steal everything that's not bolted down, which is, well, you know, part of the games' appeal, because it would be a huge problem for other players. Even if you make the NPCs and, I don't know, forks and knives and lanterns and everything respawn after a few minutes, it's really unlikely they can properly capture the feeling of the open world in which you can do whatever you feel like in an MMO, simply because of the logistical problems.

Doesn't matter to me, though, I'm not heavily invested in the series or anything.

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ScorpioVS
05/09/12 12:36:00 AM
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-Visually it looks like other Hero Engine MMOs like SWTOR
-The general art style is kind of like RIFT or Everquest 2


Oh that's a shame

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VitalVI
05/09/12 12:38:00 AM
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MMO's suck in general

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YetAnothrShadow
05/09/12 12:54:00 AM
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I lost interest in it the moment they announced the combat is cooldown based like WoW and there was three " factions " to choose from just like every other WoW clone.

The thing about TES is being thrown into this world and paving you're own way through it. That with a friend is what online TES should be, not be stuck in factions the moment you start playing.

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Even if you make the NPCs and, I don't know, forks and knives and lanterns and everything respawn after a few minutes, it's really unlikely they can properly capture the feeling of the open world in which you can do whatever you feel like in an MMO, simply because of the logistical problems.


That also is bugging me.

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WazzupGenius00
05/09/12 8:40:00 AM
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From: Ayuyu | #028
Some are angry that when we finally get a game that spans all of Tamriel (players have been asking for it for years) it's a freaking WoW clone MMO


even worse, this is likely the chance to finally meet the Akaviri, based on the series timeline

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