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JaKyL25
05/17/12 4:05:00 PM
#401:


Dixie Carter @TNADixie
Brooke Hogan to join @IMPACTWRESTLING as the Executive in Charge of the Knockouts! http://ow.ly/1Mm0ga




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MrGreenonion
05/17/12 4:10:00 PM
#402:


I can only hope that going live will make Impact work better. It just feels really sloppy now since they edit it together from multiple tapings and they don't always do a great job of making it seamless. Now that each episode will be one live event, it should flow more smoothly.

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edwardsdv
05/17/12 4:44:00 PM
#403:


I happen to think that ideally theyll go live and travel soon.

The traveling especially cant be undersold. Connecting with your fans is a big deal, it gives us a chance to get more invested when we can be there live.

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PrivateBiscuit1
05/17/12 4:46:00 PM
#404:


Why would anyone complain that they might get more Damien Sandow screen time?

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ScareChan
05/17/12 4:48:00 PM
#405:


What would you say are the biggest available REALISTIC company jumps are?

I would go with Kofi if they ever just completely forget about him and I can see WWE having fun with Magnus

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PrivateBiscuit1
05/17/12 4:49:00 PM
#406:


Jakyl25 posted...
Dixie Carter @TNADixie
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DEAR GOD WHY


I wish I saw how that interview went.

"So, what are your qualifications?"

"Well, I am a failed singer and my father is Hulk Hogan. Oh! And I was on Hogan Knows Best and the debut episode of the Jeff Dunham show!"

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entropyx
05/17/12 4:51:00 PM
#407:


WWE is proud to celebrate this historic milestone with our partners at USA Network," WWE Chairman and CEO Vince McMahon said. “Our new three-hour Raw represents the next generation in interactive television where our fans won’t just watch the show, they will help create it.”

Starting with the historic 1,000th episode of Raw on July 23, The WWE Universe will have new ways to get involved in the show through WWE.com and social media by deciding matches, stipulations, Superstar development and more.

"The WWE Universe is one of the most socially active and passionate fan bases in all of television," Chris McCumber and Jeff Wachtel, co-presidents USA Network, said. "The powerful three-hour block of live TV truly makes USA the year-round destination for young male viewers on Monday nights."



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ScareChan
05/17/12 4:53:00 PM
#408:


Superstar development can easily mean who someone's tag partner is and they become friends.

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SmartMuffin
05/17/12 5:03:00 PM
#409:


Maybe WWE thought TNA's "gut check" crappy reality segment was really great and that they need to now copy it.

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ninkendo
05/17/12 5:47:00 PM
#410:


I assume it would be 8-11 like pass 3 hour raws have been, but I'd prefer to be 9-midnight!

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ninkendo
05/17/12 5:53:00 PM
#411:


also does this mean 4 hour PPVs and 5 hour Wrestlemania

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JaKyL25
05/17/12 6:07:00 PM
#412:


From: ScareChan | #405
What would you say are the biggest available REALISTIC company jumps are?

I would go with Kofi if they ever just completely forget about him and I can see WWE having fun with Magnus


Realistic in what sense?

WWE would love to have Angle back as a Jericho-esque part-timer, and he's said himself he wants to wrestle at WM again before he retires, so that's realistic IMO.

They just currently can't come to terms on style and schedule (WWE would want him to work less and take fewer bumps and Kurt clearly doesn't want to), and they PROBABLY can't come to terms on Wellness (or so I would guess).

Also if TNA is in any way successful in making Bobby Roode a star, WWE will be all over that. That's a year or two away though.

Going the other way, I could see Swagger in TNA someday. That's bigger than Kofi right? <__<

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SmartMuffin
05/17/12 6:27:00 PM
#413:


and they PROBABLY can't come to terms on Wellness (or so I would guess).

There is absolutely no way WWE has a more restrictive testing policy than the Olympics!

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JaKyL25
05/17/12 6:42:00 PM
#414:


Angle definitely got clean for his Olympic run.

He's ALREADY like 20 pounds heavier than he was at the start of the year though.

He'll do it for his country, but I don't think he'll do it for Vince.

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SmartMuffin
05/17/12 6:47:00 PM
#415:


He's not doing it for his country, he's doing it for his ego.

Which Wrestlemania could stroke just as well.

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JaKyL25
05/17/12 6:48:00 PM
#416:


I was giving him the benefit of the doubt!

The problem with WM is that Kurt specifically said he wants to come back, do WM, and then go back to TNA to retire.

Kinda awkward.

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SmartMuffin
05/17/12 6:49:00 PM
#417:


Maybe they could pair him up with another massive ego and decent draw who probably has no intention of sticking around.

Angle/Lesnar again?

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SmartMuffin
05/17/12 6:51:00 PM
#418:


Angle/Jericho would be p awesome.

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JaKyL25
05/17/12 6:57:00 PM
#419:


I can kinda see how this would play out in Kurt's head:

1.) Get written out of TNA at Bound For Glory.
2.) After a few months off to refresh, show up as a surprise entrant in the Royal Rumble, win.
3.) Challenge John Cena for the WWE Championship at Wrestlemania XXIX. Lose, shake his hand, disappear.
4.) Reappear in TNA at Slammiversary 2013, re-ignite the old "The next match I lose is my last" angle.
5.) Go on 4 month winning streak, capturing one last World Title along the way.
6.) Lose final match at Bound For Glory 2013, putting someone over on the way out.
7.) WWE Hall of Fame Class of 2014 headliner inductee

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SmartMuffin
05/17/12 6:57:00 PM
#420:


Pretty much all of that works for me!

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JaKyL25
05/17/12 6:59:00 PM
#421:


I only pick Cena for the asymmetry, from Cena's first WWE match shaking hands with Angle to Angle's last WWE match shaking hands with Cena would be pretty cool.

For awhile there, Cena's progress as a wrestler in kayfabe was kinda measured by his annual feud with Angle, from '02-'05.

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voltch
05/17/12 7:11:00 PM
#422:


ok guys which of these two do you think is more surprising.

Brodus Clay becoming the Funkasaur OR One Man Gang discovering his roots and turning into Akeem the African Dream.

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Rad Link 5
05/17/12 7:18:00 PM
#423:


I wouldn't even say the two hour Raws have been written for two hours a lot of the time, so I don't have faith in them to write a three hour Raw any better. Although it looks like they'll just leave it up to the fans to write the extra content, I guess? Oh boy.

From: Jakyl25 | #401
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So the entire Knockouts division is gonna be a casualty of this Scott Steiner thing, eh?

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XIII_rocks
05/17/12 7:35:00 PM
#424:


When I think of fan interaction I think of that botched Power to the People episode last year where the polling went wrong - and the botched results were better. Like how we got Mason Ryan to destroy that pothead Evan Bourne instead of Botch Cara

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SmartMuffin
05/17/12 7:43:00 PM
#425:


But at least that whole thing proved that the results weren't rigged!

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DSAutoResponder
05/17/12 8:22:00 PM
#426:


IT'S THE DYNAMITE KID FOR FREE YALL

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yeah okay he was a douchebag but he was a fantastic wrestler

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ScareChan
05/17/12 8:35:00 PM
#427:


Whoever the Chael Sonnen fans are in here


He is currently having an in depth discussion with PAUL HEYMAN on Twitter


Yes

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Rad Link 5
05/17/12 8:51:00 PM
#428:


I'm loving these free wrestling DVDs.

Actually that one's not working for me. It says "DO NOT ADD TO CART. PURCHASE BY CLICKING HERE," but there's nowhere to click.

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PrivateBiscuit1
05/17/12 8:55:00 PM
#429:


The NXT tapings... I shall tell you who will be debuting on your TV (or internet) and whether or not they will suck!

Bo Dallas (AKA Bo Rotundo): Boring as piss. Expect all of his matches to be getting beat up for the whole thing and getting a surprise spear for the win.

Rick Victor: CANADIAN LIFTER! One of the better guys. He's got tons of potential and is finally starting to gain a personality and uniqueness to him. F***ing Canadian Lifters are the s***.

Briley Pierce: Little Ziggler! He does interviewing. He's much better as a solid character, so we'll see. He's got a lot of work to do, but I like him.

Jason Jordan: Generic, green, and bland.

The Ascension (Conor O'Brien & Kenneth Cameron): Good duo. They have an awesome and dark theme and entrance. They get by on gimmick and personality. They are passable in the ring. Like, their personality and entrance make them for real.

Mike Dalton: Fun cruiserweight. Very solid wrestler.

CJ Parker: Terrible, annoying, and unenjoyable.

Byron Saxton: BEST ON COMMENTARY EVER!

Seth Rollins: What do I need to say about Seth Rollins? Incredible on everything but the mic. But... man. He is bad on the mic.

Jiro: He's generic Japanese. Sakamoto is much better.

Leo Kruger: Bad on the mic, but very solid everywhere else. I'd say he is "above average".

Aiden English: I don't know much about him. He doesn't seem particularly good though.

Richie Steamboat: Great in the ring. One of the best in FCW. However, his mic skills could stand to improve. He's got in-ring charisma.

Dante Dash: Only ever seen him once. His swagger is fabulous and his personality is great. He didn't get much offense in, so I have no idea how he is in the ring.

Sofia Cortez: You know that Isabelle chick from Tough Enough? That's her. She's alright for a Diva. Probably progressing much better than a lot of them.

Paige: She's not tremendous. She's a step above most of the "bad" Divas though. She's kind of scrawny and pale though. Not much for total hotness.

Nick Rogers: JAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACKED! Also, he sucks.

Jake Carter & Corey Graves: Jake Carter is very decent. He's also Vader's son! He's not fat though. Corey Graves is so cool, slimy, and badass. He's also great in the ring and has a badass submission move. Corey Graves is the f***ing man.

Kassius Ohno (AKA Chris Hero): He's honestly not good. He's okay if he's with the right opponent, but his mic skills blow, his gimmick is bad, and he doesn't seem like he's trying too much.

Chris Russo: OH GOD THEY PUT THIS F***ING NERD ON COMMENTARY.

Bray Wyatt: Cool new gimmick for Husky Harris. It's dark and weird. I don't know what to think of it yet.

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DSAutoResponder
05/17/12 8:56:00 PM
#430:


From: Rad Link 5 | #428
I'm loving these free wrestling DVDs.

Actually that one's not working for me. It says "DO NOT ADD TO CART. PURCHASE BY CLICKING HERE," but there's nowhere to click.


http://www.payloadz.com/d1/freeproducts.asp?id=1496275

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PrivateBiscuit1
05/17/12 9:01:00 PM
#431:


Actually, I just realized FCW's problems.

They can't make talkers. They have guys who come in already incredibly charismatic and good on the mic, but anyone who sucks on the mic doesn't grow better.

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JaKyL25
05/18/12 12:12:00 AM
#432:


From: PrivateBiscuit1 | #431
They can't make talkers. They have guys who come in already incredibly charismatic and good on the mic, but anyone who sucks on the mic doesn't grow better.


Steamboat was never anything special, and Dusty was great on the mic but LOL at the idea of him teaching someone how to cut a promo.

The only Steve Keirn promos I ever knew of were as Skinner. <_<

Maybe the professors are the problem. Get Mick Foley and Ted DiBiase Sr. down there.

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JaKyL25
05/18/12 12:15:00 AM
#433:


Looking at the NXT tapings spoilers, I have to imagine that there's at least ONE more week of normal NXT for some reason. They can't just shift over that abruptly.

And I guess this is the end of our goofy lovable NXT Redemption.

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Rad Link 5
05/18/12 12:18:00 AM
#434:


Free Daniel Bryan Danielson vs CM Punk RoH video for those wanting to get hyped for Over the Limit.

http://www.rohwrestling.com/content/free-video-cm-punk-vs-bryan-danielson

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edwardsdv
05/18/12 12:21:00 AM
#435:


From: Jakyl25 | #433
Looking at the NXT tapings spoilers, I have to imagine that there's at least ONE more week of normal NXT for some reason. They can't just shift over that abruptly.

And I guess this is the end of our goofy lovable NXT Redemption.


Yeah ugh this is terrible news.

That was some of the best wrestling on tv.

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JaKyL25
05/18/12 12:25:00 AM
#436:


Well I dunno if it's TERRIBLE news. I'm all for a national showcase for fresh talent.

I loved NXT Redemption but the Striker kidnapping may have been the coup de grace. They can't really top something like that. I mean, we had, in WWE canon, a clone of Matt Striker running around.

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edwardsdv
05/18/12 12:31:00 AM
#437:


Are you calling Curt Hawkins and Tyler Reks "not fresh?"

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TheRock1525
05/18/12 12:33:00 AM
#438:


Jakyl25 posted...
Well I dunno if it's TERRIBLE news. I'm all for a national showcase for fresh talent.

I loved NXT Redemption but the Striker kidnapping may have been the coup de grace. They can't really top something like that. I mean, we had, in WWE canon, a clone of Matt Striker running around.


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See, this is why the reality era can suck it. NXT has f***ing CLONES!

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JaKyL25
05/18/12 12:33:00 AM
#439:


Well they're fresher than Maxine vs. Kaitlyn.

Seriously that match must have happened once every 10 episodes or so.

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edwardsdv
05/18/12 12:35:00 AM
#440:


I think I just liked to see what they could do with that level of talent and how it could consistently outpace the main show with half the time, no titles and no blowoff ppvs.

I mean sure the NEW NXT can do that too, but will it be as charming?

I somehow doubt it.

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Rad Link 5
05/18/12 12:36:00 AM
#441:


I think people are being too closed minded about the reality era. People hear "reality" and think "oh now we can't have clones." On the contrary, I think not only can we still have clones, the reality era can make us start to think the clones are actual clones.

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JaKyL25
05/18/12 12:39:00 AM
#442:


I just realized something about the new tapings setup.

Once Raw goes 3 hours and they move the Superstars tapings entirely to pre-SD, I doubt they'll continue to do the split commentary on there.

So I guess starting at the end of July, the Superstars commentary team will be Stanford/Striker full-time?

Man, Josh went from doing EVERY show to almost getting turfed out. No more NXT, soon no more Superstars, and really he's almost becoming superfluous on SD when Cole's acting reasonable.

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edwardsdv
05/18/12 12:41:00 AM
#443:


Reality Era misses the point. It caters to trying to get back the whole "what is real" thing and makes a lot of internet smarks into marks again, but honestly its just Russo-booking 101 with a little creative control. The tradeoff is all the writing has to be placed into a more plausible box and if possible related to the individual wrestler personally, kinda like the pre-MTV 80s but with less personality.

The answer is and always will be if its on TV its a work, That there are people who dont get that....well frankly its hysterical. Lets at least have awesome and interesting works, shall we?

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edwardsdv
05/18/12 12:42:00 AM
#444:


From: Jakyl25 | #442
I just realized something about the new tapings setup.

Once Raw goes 3 hours and they move the Superstars tapings entirely to pre-SD, I doubt they'll continue to do the split commentary on there.

So I guess starting at the end of July, the Superstars commentary team will be Stanford/Striker full-time?

Man, Josh went from doing EVERY show to almost getting turfed out. No more NXT, soon no more Superstars, and really he's almost becoming superfluous on SD when Cole's acting reasonable.


Maybe theyll do the old Nitro switch up for commentary teams. I dont think King could call a 3 hour show!

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JaKyL25
05/18/12 12:46:00 AM
#445:


Or maybe Josh/Stanford will be the full-time Superstars guys and Matt Striker will be on the spring cleaning list, since he's no longer needed for NXT and it's pretty clear he won't be getting regular duty on a main show again anytime soon.

Kinda weird how quickly he fell. He was calling full PPVs as recently as Royal Rumble 2011

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05/18/12 12:48:00 AM
#446:


TNA was pretty decent tonight, I guess. That's 2 Impacts and a PPV can they keep the streak going!

Probably not.

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05/18/12 12:56:00 AM
#447:


Goodbye goofy NXT. You'll be missed. I hate you reality era.
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Rad Link 5
05/18/12 1:02:00 AM
#448:


No seriously, just think of this for a second.

CM Punk is feuding with the clone of Daniel Bryan. The clone of Daniel Bryan comes out and says Punk was always playing second fiddle to Daniel Bryan, and now Daniel Bryan's clone will be the new WWE Champion. CM Punk suddenly comes out. He starts going on angrily about how was in the WWE way before Daniel Bryan. He says he was already a five time World Champion in the WWE before Daniel Bryan won his first World Championship. He says if not for him, Daniel Bryan wouldn't even exist.

Punk's tone suddenly shifts and he gets right in the face of Daniel Bryan's clone. "You're not even Daniel Bryan, though. You're the product of man's greed! You're a reminder that jackasses like Kevin Dunn are so insecure about their pathetic little lives, that they have to try and play God! They have to try and hold other people back, and when that fails, they go to disgusting lengths to prove how powerful they supposedly are! The fact is, I'm better than you! I'm better than you, I'm better than him, and I'm better than any other wrestler that a****** decides he wants to clone! He thinks he can stop me from getting my time by creating another John Cena?! He thinks what this company needs is another "Dwayne?!" It's my time, now! And I'm not going to be held back by some jealous tool! I will defeat you, clone, and the whole world's going to see that I am the future of this company! And Vince's lackeys in his ear are finally going to have to admit it!"

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JaKyL25
05/18/12 1:02:00 AM
#449:


From: Haguile | #447
Goodbye goofy NXT. You'll be missed. I hate you reality era.


This really has nothing to do with the reality era

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Haguile
05/18/12 1:04:00 AM
#450:


From: Jakyl25 | #449
This really has nothing to do with the reality era


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