Board 8 > All-Purpose Wrestling Topic 193: What a Kick....in the GUT CHECK

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From: Kinglicious | #443

HBK is too weak on the mic.

uh what?



HBK is one of the most underrated talkers in the history of wrestling and for my money one of the top 3 ever.

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What's this about Christian being on TNA? What exactly happened?

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Compared to cody? Yeah, hbk is way too weak on it. Not that he's bad, but cody is considerably better.

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Jakyl25 posted...

- WWE released the following developmental talent over the weekend…

* Eli Cottonwood: Requested a release from the company and was let go so that he could peruse a career outside of wrestling.

* Jiro: Originally trained in Japan by TAKA Michinoku's Kaientai-Dojo

* Benicio Salazar: A Mexican talent who worked under a mask in Mexico as El Hijo del Medico Asesino.

* Sonny Elliot: A developmental talent from Australia.

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As Board 8's FCW expert, I believe these are all good release choices except for maybe Jiro. He was basically a less awesome Sakamoto.

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From: Kinglicious | #443

HBK is too weak on the mic.

uh what?



HBK is one of the most underrated talkers in the history of wrestling and for my money one of the top 3 ever.

Brilliant sample of HBK's brilliance. I mean, for a crowd to want to rip to pieces, that's real talent! And besides, HBK has always been golden in Canada.

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Find out who will be in the 2012 Bound For Glory Series during the Gauntlet match at 8pm on Spike TV!

How to Get Points
Points are determined by wins and losses – how you win is equally as important!

Submission Victory – 10 points
Pinfall Victory – 7 points
Countout Victory – 5 points
Disqualification Victory – 3 points
Draw (Time Limit/Double Countout/Double Disqualification) – Two points
Disqualification Lose – you LOSE 10 points

The Type of Matches
Each wrestler will battle each other ONCE in the series! These matches will take place over IMPACT WRESTLING on Spike TV and on TNA's live event tours across the country, with the point structure outlined above.

Standings and How to Win!
The standings will be updated on ImpactWrestling.com. The standings will be "locked" on the September 6 edition of IMPACT WRESTLING on SpikeTV. The top point leaders advance to No Surrender PPV (9/9) for a one-night playoff to see who gets the Bound For Glory World Title Match!



I am so freaking glad that they fixed the biggest flaw with last year's BFG series: the inconsistency in matchups.

Knowing that everyone is gonna fight everyone 1-on-1 ONE TIME ONLY during the series really helps the fans follow and grasp the stakes of every battle.

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Masato_Tanaka posted...

What's this about Christian being on TNA? What exactly happened?

WWE used Flair at the HoF ceremony even though he was still a TNA employee at the time. This was their payback. They got to have Christian (Cage) come out at Slammiversary and speak on TNA's 10-year history and introduce the moment voted as the #1 moment in company history.

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Oh man I am going to have to start watching TNA again.

That BFG series sounds amazing!

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Yeah the BFG series is a realy cool idea imo

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Now hang on Jakyl: based on those rules, are you telling me that anyone could run in on a match that the BFG leader is wrestling in, and attack the BFG leader's opponent, thus causing the leader to lose 10 points?

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MartinFF7 posted...

Now hang on Jakyl: based on those rules, are you telling me that anyone could run in on a match that the BFG leader is wrestling in, and attack the BFG leader's opponent, thus causing the leader to lose 10 points?

Technically yes.

But Vince Russo isn't employed anymore.

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A heel doing that wouldn't be a Russo-esque move.

It happening like 8 times, yes, but once is just good heeling.

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Right, but Top Four make the "Playoffs" if it's anything like last year.

So really this affects the 4th place guy moreso than the leader.

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If there are that few matches, a 10 point swing might move you from the lead to 5th!

Edit: But yes, the point is more 'someone interferes specifically that someone else gets -10 than it has to be the leader.'

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We don't get the Tag matches where you can commit point fixing?


Though last year was hilarious when Jerry Lynn kept DQing RVD and he had no clue how many points he lost.

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A 12-man Round Robin would be 55 matches in total, over 2 1/2 months that's a lot!

Plus I imagine the Gauntlet match tomorrow night will count as bonus points for the winner to get the ball rolling.

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One thing I really liked about last year's was how Bobby Roode, normally a power wrestler, developed a submission move (the crossface) specifically to help his cause in the BFG Series, and it has since become a staple of his arsenal. That's great writing.

Then you have stuff happening like voltch's tag match example where only the winner of the fall got the points and it turned into stupidity. I hope no tag matches are involved this year. <_<

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Jakyl25 posted...

A 12-man Round Robin would be 55 matches in total, over 2 1/2 months that's a lot!

Plus I imagine the Gauntlet match tomorrow night will count as bonus points for the winner to get the ball rolling.

I'm hoping/expecting that each victory in the gauntlet will be worth points.

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Oh that's not how TNA Gauntlet matches work.

Their "Gauntlet" match is basically a Royal Rumble except when it's down to 2 it becomes a regular match.

It's usually called a "Gauntlet For the Gold" but obviously there's no gold here.

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Remember when Pope used the tag matches to gift Devon some free points?

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Jakyl25 posted...

Oh that's not how TNA Gauntlet matches work.

Their "Gauntlet" match is basically a Royal Rumble except when it's down to 2 it becomes a regular match.

It's usually called a "Gauntlet For the Gold" but obviously there's no gold here.

oh.

1 point for an elimination then!

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That might work. It would negate some of the inherent disadvantage to starting. Yeah if you come out last you have a better shot of winning the whole shebang, but you've also probably missed some point opportunities.

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I think next time we do synchtube we'll watch the first TNA show just to see how far it's come.

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Your synchtubes are just way too late.

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voltch posted...

Your synchtubes are just way too late.

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From: WarThaNemesis2 | #465
A heel doing that wouldn't be a Russo-esque move.

It happening like 8 times, yes, but once is just good heeling.
I could see for instance, Bobby Roode, not wanting to face James Storm, PURPOSEFULLY gets him DQ'd so that the only way he makes the playoffs are winning by submission against like Samoa Joe or something.

That could make for a compelling James Storm match, which is no mean feat.

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From: Jakyl25 | #469
A 12-man Round Robin would be 55 matches in total, over 2 1/2 months that's a lot!

I think its brilliant that they gave themselves the live event out. Who really want to see, a month or so in, #9 in the standings fight # 11? Plus this lets them fill tv with the compelling stuff AND probably sells live event tickets as well ( Watch as MATT MORGAN takes on SAMOA JOE in a BOUND FOR GLORY SERIES MATCH).

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Completely kayfabe interview with Joseph Park, free on f4w.

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The CONFIRMED final episode of NXT Season Five is online. Episode 67 to be precise.

So long, awesomely weird show. I will always cherish your memories.

Some fun facts about how long this season went:

The World and WWE Champions when this season began were Edge and The Miz.

Chavo Guerrero, Vladimir Kozlov, and Maryse were prominent parts of the early season.

The season began with JTG trying to make his rookie, Jacob Novak, more fly. The season ended with Alicia Fox trying to make JTG more generic.

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How many non-NXT matches did JTG win since the season began?

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I haven't gone through all the Superstars records (he did have a few Superstars matches in the last year, certainly more than on Raw or SD) but I'm gonna guess zero.

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Nice round number that is.

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This means we are 2 weeks away from the official WWE debut of Seth Rollins and Richie Steamboat!

And only 1 week away from THE ASCENSION.

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Next week, new season, new push for viewership.

Starting next week we SYNCHTUBE NXT every Wednesday.

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From: Jakyl25 | #469

A 12-man Round Robin would be 55 matches in total, over 2 1/2 months that's a lot!

Plus I imagine the Gauntlet match tomorrow night will count as bonus points for the winner to get the ball rolling.

Just do it like the 12 Large Summit.

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I actually didn't really like the 12 Large Summit "Block A/Block B" format but I understand why it existed (just not enough shows to do a full 12 man round robin).

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I'd personally do it World Cup style.

4 groups of 4 (Blocks A-D). 2 points for a victory, 1 point for any type of draw (double countout, double DQ, time limit etc), 0 points for loss.

After each guy wrestles his 3 matches (that's a total of 24 matches I believe), you use the point totals to determine seeding in the knockout tournament stage:

A1
B2

C1
D2

B1
A2

D1
C2

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And I'm actually surprised you didn't like the separate block format. It's pretty much been the only way wrestling has done it since Best of the Super Juniors set the precedent.

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You know, Hogan, one way to make the match meaningful would be to announce his opponent(s).

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Jakyl25 posted...

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From: Jakyl25 | #495
You know, Hogan, one way to make the match meaningful would be to announce his opponent(s).
Not if his opponent is a jobber.

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TimJab posted...

And I'm actually surprised you didn't like the separate block format. It's pretty much been the only way wrestling has done it since Best of the Super Juniors set the precedent.

It just feels a little unbalanced to me. If you're gonna run it like that, I feel like the Block winners should have a 2-out-of-3 series or something.

EDIT: To flesh that out for, what I mean is that the entire purpose of a Round Robin as opposed to just a flat-out tournament is to avoid flukes. Someone can have a bad night or not match up well against one guy and still be the best person in their group, and Round Robin allows for that to play out.

To follow that up with a SINGLE MATCH for the title seems almost contradictory.

On a side note, it's also a little weird to me that they seemingly don't have any system in place for earning title shots yet. Now Dasher Hatfield is getting one!

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From: Jakyl25 | #496

On a side note, it's also a little weird to me that they seemingly don't have any system in place for earning title shots yet. Now Dasher Hatfield is getting one!

I actually haven't been following until I have time to catch up on the DVDs, but I'd imagine they're just gonna give arbitrary shots like the Young Lions Cup (without the age limit). It would be kind of overkill to have a points system for a singles title, it would be mayhem.

One knock I have against the separate block thing, and this is only because CHIKARA chose to book it this way, is that Eddie Kingston was mathematically locked into the finals and Block B still had like 10 matches left. I think a lot of that had to do with Brodie getting hurt though.

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Alright Sabin, Ion and uh who else is there?

Robbie E?

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