Board 8 > List the top 10 TNG and DS9 episodes

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OmarsComin
06/10/12 5:14:00 PM
#1:


like top 10 TNG, then top 10 DS9

curious what comes up though of course there'll be a few obvious ones

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Meow1000
06/10/12 5:15:00 PM
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Anyone who says Sub Rosa or Move Along Home deserves eternal shunning.

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Big Bob
06/10/12 5:49:00 PM
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My Top 10 TNG:

10. Remember Me
9. Inheritance
8. The Measure of a Man
7. Yesterday's Enterprise
6. I, Borg
5. Frame of Mind
4. Ship in a Bottle
3. True Q
2. All Good Things...
1. Tapestry

I've only seen half a season of Deep Space Nine.

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OmarsComin
06/10/12 7:50:00 PM
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bumpo

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Jeff Zero
06/10/12 7:51:00 PM
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From: Meow1000 | #002
Anyone who says Sub Rosa or Move Along Home deserves eternal shunning.

factual

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Westbrick
06/10/12 7:52:00 PM
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TNG:

1. The Best of Both Worlds, Pt.II

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edwardsdv
06/10/12 7:55:00 PM
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DS9:

1: Duet

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Jeff Zero
06/10/12 7:59:00 PM
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From: edwardsdv | #007
DS9:

1: Duet

lol, watch the other six seasons first

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Jeff Zero
06/10/12 7:59:00 PM
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DS9: (you get a top 20, dammit)

20. "Favor the Bold"
19. "Take Me Out To The Holosuite" (or, "Where I Learned To Stop Worrying And Love Baseball")
18. "Who Mourns for Morn?"
17. "Children of Time"
16. "Treachery, Faith and the Great River"
15. "The Die is Cast"
14. "Duet" (ya go my only first-season choice)
13. "Tacking Into The Wind"
12. "The Visitor" (lower than it appears on many lists, I know, but these are all outstanding hours of television)
11. "The Wire" (even better than the show itself)
10."Looking for par'Mach in All the Wrong Places"
9. "Call to Arms"
8. "Trials and Tribble-ations"
7."Hard Time"
6. "The Changing Face of Evil"
5. "A Time to Stand""
4. "Sacrifice of Angels"
3. "In the Pale Moonlight"
2. "Far Beyond the Stars"
1. "What You Leave Behind" (come at me)

Good Lord Almighty, is this difficult. I could probably keep going all the way to the top 50 without blinking but to debate the placements themselves. As you can see, I prefer the big arcs of the later seasons, and I really like the last few years.

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The Real Truth
06/10/12 8:00:00 PM
#10:


How do people remember names of episodes? I just watched through the whole series, and I couldn't remember the name of an episode without a description.

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SmartMuffin
06/10/12 8:05:00 PM
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Any TNG list without Redemption is obviously a complete joke.

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Jeff Zero
06/10/12 8:06:00 PM
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TNG: (this is much, much easier. DS9 > TNG. But man, when TNG is really good, it's really good. I'll give it that, but... I'll say the same for DS9, so...!)

20. "In Theory"
19. "The Best of Both Worlds, Part I" (yeah... I know.)
18. "Half a Life" (what the f***? This is a really good Lwaxana Troi episode...?!)
17. "Face of the Enemy"
16. "Timescape"
15. "I, Borg"
14. "Redemption, Part I"
13. "Redemption, Part II"
12. "The Pegasus"
11 "The Drumhead"
10. "Sarek"
9. "Frame of Mind"
8. "Remember Me"
7. "Tapestry"
6. "The Inner Light"
5. "Yesterday's Enterprise"
4. "The Best of Both Worlds, Part II"
3. "The Measure of a Man" (where the f*** did this whopper of a good second-season episode even come from!?)
2. "All Good Things..."
1. "Chain of Command, Part II" (you know, there are five lights though)

Ya, go my third and fourth seasons. But the fifth, sixth and seventh had a lot of heavy hitters as well. It's just that, well, the fifth and especially seventh seasons had some real stinkers too.

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Pokewars
06/10/12 8:07:00 PM
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TNG:

1. The Inner Light

I know that for sure.

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Jeff Zero
06/10/12 8:07:00 PM
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From: The Real Truth | #010
How do people remember names of episodes? I just watched through the whole series, and I couldn't remember the name of an episode without a description.

Well, for one thing Trek was for me what cartoons were for most of Board 8, and I always saw the episode titles when the hour began because back then dramas usually wrote them down for the audience at the start.

From: SmartMuffin | #011
Any TNG list without Redemption is obviously a complete joke.

You'd be surprised how many people didn't think "Redemption" was the cat's meow. Thankfully, I did.

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Jeff Zero
06/10/12 8:08:00 PM
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Honorable mention to TNG's "The Gambit" duology. It's surprisingly enjoyable for the most part, and gets a really bad rap sometimes.

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Jeff Zero
06/10/12 8:08:00 PM
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Now, who wants to join me in a Voyager top 20?

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OmarsComin
06/10/12 8:27:00 PM
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the only Voyager episodes I remember are Year of Hell and the one with the clown

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Jeff Zero
06/10/12 8:29:00 PM
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From: OmarsComin | #017
the only Voyager episodes I remember are Year of Hell and the one with the clown

Fun fact: "Year of Hell" was originally conceived as a year-long arc with lasting ramifications. Predictably, UPN laughed their asses off and declined such capable levels of storytelling.

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Meow1000
06/10/12 8:40:00 PM
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Jeff Zero posted...
From: OmarsComin | #017
the only Voyager episodes I remember are Year of Hell and the one with the clown

Fun fact: "Year of Hell" was originally conceived as a year-long arc with lasting ramifications. Predictably, UPN laughed their asses off and declined such capable levels of storytelling.




I did not know this


But the show was kind of a trainwreck.

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Jeff Zero
06/10/12 8:40:00 PM
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Yeah, mostly.

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Meow1000
06/10/12 8:42:00 PM
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The Measure of a Man was one of few episodes that probably could have benefited by being even longer than the normal episode.

I watched through DS9 like 8 months ago, its been a long time since I've really done the same with TNG to any level.

Don't know why.

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Jeff Zero
06/10/12 8:44:00 PM
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Well, we disagree on DS9's seventh season as documented in that other topic, or I'd say DS9 is easily the far more rewarding of the two watches. It is for me, at least! TNG just isn't arc-based to much extent, which is great for what it's accomplishing but when you have to sit through a bad ep, you don't even have the prospect of it being relevant again later in some neat way.

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Meow1000
06/10/12 8:47:00 PM
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DS9's seventh season felt to sputter out of control in the middle with many consecutive fluff episodes while they figured out what to do, then felt both rushed and uneven when they finally got back to storyline.

Having to replace Dax for the one season due to the actress gave Ezri too much focus to try to make a character out of her, and what they did to Garak was terrible. He's so meek in 7 compared to the others.

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Jeff Zero
06/10/12 9:14:00 PM
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I really don't agree that it's rushed! Would I have enjoyed 26 episodes of nonstop uber-arc? Hell yeah, probably! But man, eleven or twelve hours of it, by the standards of the day, and indeed Trek otherwise? Superb.

The Ezri focus was kind of rough, I agree, but I like Nicole de Boer's performance enough that it's OK by me. And I really like Garak toward the end, during the you-know-what in the finale!

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shadosneko
06/10/12 9:49:00 PM
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The Inner Light

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Jeff Zero
06/10/12 9:56:00 PM
#26:


There Are Four Lights > Inner Light

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DomaDragoon
06/10/12 10:18:00 PM
#27:


This is what I think right now. I reserve the option to change my mind at a moment's notice. Also, I'm skipping DS9 for now.

10. Reunion
9. Deja Q
8. Redemption, Part 2
7. The Drumhead
6. The Inner Light
5. Yesterday's Enterprise
4. Cause and Effect
3. The Best of Both Worlds, Part 2
2. I, Borg
1. The Measure of a Man

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Jeff Zero
06/11/12 1:28:00 PM
#28:


I'm going to post top 20s on the ohhh-so-loved Voyager and Enterprise tonight.

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Meow1000
06/11/12 1:30:00 PM
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Enterprise somehow managed to make Voyager seem completely watchable.

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Jeff Zero
06/11/12 9:20:00 PM
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From: Meow1000 | #029
Enterprise somehow managed to make Voyager seem completely watchable.

Did you watch the third and fourth seasons? The cast never got any better (which is admittedly a huge deal, yeah) but the storylines themselves really increased in quality exponentially, oddly enough.

Also, I'm totally waiting to post those lists until tomorrow. I forgot how much of a colossal undertaking it will be sifting through the dren of Voyager.

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