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Jeff Zero
06/29/12 2:09:00 PM
#251:


OlDirtyNumbers posted...
gotta interrupt this KH lovefest to say that no combination of anything in KH can be construed as manly. or good.


Hehe, I like the way you think!

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Kotetsu534
06/29/12 2:11:00 PM
#252:


Jeff Zero posted...
OlDirtyNumbers posted...
gotta interrupt this KH lovefest to say that no combination of anything in KH can be construed as manly. or good.


Hehe, I like the way you think!


I posit:

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Jeff Zero
06/29/12 2:12:00 PM
#253:


Aw, s***, I forgot I actually really like Hikari.

Kotetsu, you... I...

Well played.

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LeonhartFour
06/29/12 2:56:00 PM
#254:


It added a good original character to a series that needed one.

Good enough for me.

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pjbasis
06/29/12 2:58:00 PM
#255:


I digress, Roxas himself was fine, but I'm upset at the wasted potential.

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LeonhartFour
06/29/12 8:25:00 PM
#256:


I'm not. He's the best original character in the series.

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LeonhartFour
06/30/12 2:54:00 AM
#257:


Whoo, the weekend is here.

Sleep is soon. Then "real life stuff." Then writeups.

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Jeff Zero
06/30/12 3:18:00 AM
#258:


I am Raitoningu
Square Enix transformed

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LeonhartFour
06/30/12 1:58:00 PM
#259:


Third best FF female probably

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LeonhartFour
06/30/12 6:56:00 PM
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21. Roxas (Kingdom Hearts)
Quote: “You make a good other.”
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Oh hey, remember when I told you in the Kingdom Hearts II writeup that I really liked Roxas? Well, here he is! I have to admit I was a little dubious at the concept of Roxas when we first learned about him before Kingdom Hearts II came out because it was blatantly obvious what he was supposed to be, but seeing what the series has done since then, it doesn’t seem so bad! Seriously though, I didn’t like the idea of a Sora clone at first, but once I played Kingdom Hearts II, I was quickly won over by Roxas when he turned out to be much better than the original.

First of all, Roxas has a more interesting personality than Sora, which is strange considering he’s supposed to be a Nobody with no heart and no feelings. I think Roxas is supposed to be an exception to that rule due to the special circumstances of Sora not being a Heartless for very long and the fact that he’s alive at the same time as his Nobody, unlike all the other Organization XIII members. Regardless, Roxas actually shows a wide range of emotion, and he’s not strictly a goody-goody “let’s play the hero” type of character like Sora is. DiZ even mentions once that Roxas ought to share some of his anger with Sora since he’s far too kind for his own good. He’s much more aggressive and passionate when it comes to both his emotions and his actions. Roxas just wants to live a normal life away from all of the Heartless and Nobody stuff, but alas, it was not meant to be for him.

But what probably endears me to Roxas more than anything else is the story surrounding his life. I honestly can’t help but feel sorry for the guy because the fate he was dealt just plain sucked. It’s not like he chose it for himself. He was thrown into a no-win situation from the beginning, and all he can ultimately do is accept it, although he does try to fight against it for a while to no avail. Man, DiZ is such a jerk at the end of Roxas’s section in KHII, mocking him about the futility of his existence and how his only purpose is to complete Sora. I mean, I understand that it was necessary for the two of them to unite and all, but I still end up feeling bad for the guy because he was used by Organization XIII and he was used by DiZ, and it seemed like whenever he was on the verge of understanding himself and who he was, it was taken away from him. The feelings of sympathy are only further compounded by discovering what happened to him while he was a member of Organization XIII during 358/2 Days.

I do like the scene where Roxas shows up to challenge Sora in The World That Never Was. I heard Final Mix turned that scene into an actual boss fight, but of course, we never ended up getting it here in the U.S. Anyway, I do like the quote after Sora beats him, and Roxas, with a smile, says, “You make a good other.” It’s like this is the moment where he’s finally at peace with his fate and realizes that joining with Sora to help save the world maybe isn’t so bad after all. Nobody else may know who he is, but he’s still alive in a sense within Sora. It may not have been ideal, but it still ends up being a happy ending for the guy.

You know, I’ve been reading the Clone Saga in the Spider-Man comics (which was written in the ‘90s), and I’m seeing a lot of similarities between the intertwined stories of Sora and Roxas, and the connected fates of Spider-Man and the Scarlet Spider. It’s pretty cool. I know this means nothing to most of you since I imagine hardly anybody here has any idea who the Scarlet Spider is, but I thought it was neat.

Bonus Question: Who is your favorite Kingdom Hearts character?

This doesn't have to be limited to original KH characters, but your answer should be based on their KH role alone.

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pjbasis
06/30/12 9:10:00 PM
#261:


Riku

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Jeff Zero
06/30/12 9:18:00 PM
#262:


Bonus Question: Who is your favorite Kingdom Hearts character?

Clou --

but your answer should be based on their KH role alone.

-- derp nevermind then

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LeonhartFour
06/30/12 9:19:00 PM
#263:


Cloud's a solid answer even within the realm of Kingdom Hearts alone! Squall--err, Leon--too!

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Jeff Zero
06/30/12 9:19:00 PM
#264:


OK then, Cloud. :D

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pjbasis
06/30/12 9:20:00 PM
#265:


lol if you like Compilation Cloud I guess

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ZFS
06/30/12 9:21:00 PM
#266:


Favorite KH character uhh nope nothing!

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Jeff Zero
06/30/12 9:21:00 PM
#267:


From: pjbasis | #265
lol if you like Compilation Cloud I guess

Oh ew get it off

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LeonhartFour
06/30/12 9:21:00 PM
#268:


LOL KH haters who played like two hours of the first game in the house

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LeonhartFour
06/30/12 9:22:00 PM
#269:


Eh, he's not really Compilation Cloud in the first KH because the Compilation didn't even exist then!

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Jeff Zero
06/30/12 9:23:00 PM
#270:


From: LeonhartFour | #268
LOL KH haters who played like two hours of the first game in the house

Oh come now, you know there's more to it in my case!

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LeonhartFour
06/30/12 9:23:00 PM
#271:


I know, I know.

But this happens every time KH comes up!

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pjbasis
06/30/12 9:24:00 PM
#272:


From: LeonhartFour | #269
Eh, he's not really Compilation Cloud in the first KH because the Compilation didn't even exist then!


True enough.

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Jeff Zero
06/30/12 9:25:00 PM
#273:


From: LeonhartFour | #271
I know, I know.

But this happens every time KH comes up!

Oh. I honestly wasn't aware. I keep stepping into KH lovefests; I must just have weird timing. >_>;

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LeonhartFour
06/30/12 9:26:00 PM
#274:


Well, considering we just did KH2 in the last Games writeup, we're sort of in a rhythm here!

But I'm pretty sure this happened when I talked about KH1 stuff earlier in the list!

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pjbasis
06/30/12 9:27:00 PM
#275:


I think I need to personally be in the room when Jeff plays KH again one day.

So he can see it...correctly.

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ZFS
06/30/12 9:28:00 PM
#276:


KH1 is a bad game, you don't need a replay to know that!

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Jeff Zero
06/30/12 9:29:00 PM
#277:


From: pjbasis | #275
I think I need to personally be in the room when Jeff plays KH again one day.

So he can see it...correctly.

You'd have to, uh, make me care about all the Disney shenanigans first.

There may be a switch on the back of my head somewhere.

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LeonhartFour
06/30/12 9:29:00 PM
#278:


Tales of Symphonia is a bigger priority for Jeff at the moment!

Plus, I'm not really expecting him to come around on KH because of the reason he just mentioned.

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pjbasis
06/30/12 9:30:00 PM
#279:


It's not like I really love the Disney aspect.

In fact, I think the way it straddles Disney with original contest is pretty horrible!

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LeonhartFour
06/30/12 9:31:00 PM
#280:


From: pjbasis | #279
In fact, I think the way it straddles Disney with original contest is pretty horrible!

Another reason KH2 is better! The Disney stuff is less important overall.

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pjbasis
06/30/12 9:31:00 PM
#281:


Except Chain of Memories.

It did it perfectly.

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pjbasis
06/30/12 9:32:00 PM
#282:


Noooo KHII is the worst.

It's less important and yet still takes up 90% of the game, so you get tons of original content crammed into two big events.

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Jeff Zero
06/30/12 9:32:00 PM
#283:


I'll get to Symphonia sometime after I finish Abyss, which I'm actually enjoying so far overall. But I came down with a horrible case of the flu, I was bedridden for like twelve days, and I haven't gone near it since. Psychological, I guess. I remember the slow, steady realization that I was seriously ill as I did those battles.

I'll get over it shortly, of course.

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LeonhartFour
06/30/12 9:32:00 PM
#284:


From: pjbasis | #282
t's less important and yet still takes up 90% of the game, so you get tons of original content crammed into two big events.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's not accurate.

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ZFS
06/30/12 9:34:00 PM
#285:


I feel like there are better games to prioritize than Tales!

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pjbasis
06/30/12 9:34:00 PM
#286:


Yeah, probably like 95% I guess.

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LeonhartFour
06/30/12 9:34:00 PM
#287:


From: ZFS | #285
I feel like there are better games to prioritize than Tales!

I have my reasons!

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LeonhartFour
06/30/12 9:35:00 PM
#288:


From: pjbasis | #286
Yeah, probably like 95% I guess.

Getting less accurate.

Not surprising, but still.

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LeonhartFour
06/30/12 10:38:00 PM
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21. Mega Man X
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This is my favorite Mega Man game in any series, and I’ll tell you why. It took the original Blue Bomber formula, which was already pretty good, and it expanded upon it and gave the series new possibilities in level design that it never had before. Now you’ve got wall climbing, dashing, and the like, so the gameplay has opened up more. The intro level does an excellent job of preparing you for the different experience Mega Man X is compared to Mega Man Classic, showing you how to use all the new stuff, as well as introducing you to Zero. It certainly sets the stage for greatness.

Mega Man X also has an excellent set of Mavericks who have some fun levels to navigate. I love riding through the mines in Armored Armadillo’s stage, working your way through the airport at Storm Eagle’s stage, deftly avoiding all the electrical hazards in Spark Mandrill’s stage, etc. I like how none of the stages felt the same. I know they had individual “themes” relating to the Maverick in charge, but it still felt like you weren’t doing the same thing over and over again in each level. They all had a unique design to them. The boss fights are also fun, whether you’re doing Buster only or exploiting weaknesses. Plus, Mega Man X has an excellent soundtrack, probably one of my favorites for any game.

I also love the feeling of getting new upgrades and seeing X’s armor change into a newer, sleeker design. You just feel like you’re getting more powerful as the game goes along. Plus, you can get a Hadouken! It’s pretty satisfying to be able to one shot a boss with this thing if you can manage it because it’s not easy. MMX provided a decent challenge overall. The last boss in particular was pretty difficult for me. But I’m not good at Mega Man games in general, so yeah.

Mega Man X is the one Mega Man game I can find myself coming back to and replaying over and over again. I’m not a huge fan of Mega Man in general, to be quite honest with you. I’ve always found Mario and (dare I say it on Board 8) Sonic to be more appealing platforming series in general, but Mega Man X is the exception to the rule. Just a solidly designed and fun game. It’s probably the only MM game other than MM1 where I can easily name off all the bosses and what they’re weak to as well!

Bonus Question: What is your favorite game in the Mega Man universe?

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Pram_the_Oracle
07/01/12 12:46:00 AM
#290:


Bonus Question: Who is your favorite Kingdom Hearts character?

Aqua. Side characters include Luxord and Kurt Zisa.

Bonus Question: What is your favorite game in the Mega Man universe?

Mega Man Legend

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pjbasis
07/01/12 12:50:00 AM
#291:


Mega Man X?

More like Mega Man Sex

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Lopen
07/01/12 2:19:00 AM
#292:


Bonus Question: Who is your favorite Kingdom Hearts character?

Riku I guess. I like a lot of characters from the series but don't feel super strong on any of them. Don't think any of them would make a top 50 characters list if I made one.

Bonus Question: What is your favorite game in the Mega Man universe?

Mega Man 3 I think. Mega Man 2, X4 and X5 are all in contention though.

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LinkMarioSamus
07/01/12 2:38:00 AM
#293:


Mega Man X is the Mega Man game I'm most interested in...

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Lopen
07/01/12 2:42:00 AM
#294:


You know I think the reason people find you annoying is you have no idea what the concept of a segue is.

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Pram_the_Oracle
07/01/12 2:55:00 AM
#295:


I thought it's because he's Don Sequitur?

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Lopen
07/01/12 3:00:00 AM
#296:


I like that.

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Jeff Zero
07/01/12 3:08:00 AM
#297:


Ah, marv. A write-up I didn't have to ignore -- and a brilliant one at that. Since I've already gotten all my Sting Chameleon hate out of the way for one thread, I'll just compliment the level design, boss fights, soundtrack and collecting that never got too full of itself. It's also a gem to play, exploring hidden passageways and new weapons while getting lost in the rad tunes and perfect atmosphere.

Bonus Question: What is your favorite game in the Mega Man universe?

Mega Man X, Mega Man X4, Mega Man Zero 2. Those are the top three, but I haven't played Mega Man 5, 6, 7, Mega Man X7, Mega Man Zero 3 and Zero 4. Nor have I played Mega Man ZX or ZX Advent.

I hear Zero just gets better and better. Can't wait.

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Jeff Zero
07/01/12 3:10:00 AM
#298:


The X series from 1 to 5 is exceptional, though. X6 suffers a notable drop in quality, but Inafune pretty much left the series after X5 and started working on Zero, which ties into the timeline (yeah, I know, lol Mega Man story, but still) much, much more nicely anyway.

X8 is appreciable for its attempted return to form, and it's a gem to behold, but it's too broken-up by silly shooting 'puzzles' and the boss fights are kind of a trainwreck. It's a worthy try overall, but I'll just follow the X1-5 ---> Zero 1-4 gig in the future.

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LeonhartFour
07/01/12 11:04:00 AM
#299:


Still need to get around to playing the MMX Collection, and I'd like to play the other MMZ games someday. I've played all the old Mega Man games, although I never ended up beating 6, for whatever the reason. Haven't played MM9 or 10 though. Never played any of the Battle Network or Legends games though.

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LeonhartFour
07/01/12 6:23:00 PM
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Good times.

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