I just found out today that someone who has openly and frequently expressed his hate for Dungeons & Dragons 4th edition has never tried it. He has been arguing with me over it, how it is awful, and how I am awful for enjoying it for roughly 2 years now. During that time, he won't stop talking about how great Pathfinder is and how much it is better than 4e in every aspect.
Now, I have nothing against people who dislike 4e, I've heard a lot of valid criticisms against it. But I like it, I enjoy playing it, and I don't care if other people dislike it. If you don't like it, just don't play it with me and we're fine. But after listening to him ramble for so long to find out he's never played it and is judging it based on 'what he's heard' makes me have no respect for him for having this opinion. I'm just so flabbergasted at the whole situation that I felt like I had to make this topic.
And now he's rambling about how 4e sucks because of the number of rulebook it requires you to purchase and then literally 5 minutes later talked about how he has invested $400 in Pathfinder rule books. The best part is, I legit don't think he realizes the double standards. >_>
I kinda see where the guy is coming from as I was much the same. I read about 4e and how every class was played like an mmo and how everything was simplified and how horrible wizard spells were etc etc etc.
So I avoided playing it and clung to 3.5 and considered it the best.
Then I fell in with a group that decided to run 4e.
I...don't think I can go back.
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i hated tribes ascend with a passion when it was just a blueprint on a sheet of paper somewhere
it turns out i was way too optimistic about how good that game would be
sometimes, trying new things can have disasterous results
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Tribes ascend is pretty neat. Also free. Whatever your expectations might have been, it is a simple matter to just uninstall and lose nothing except what time was spent trying it.
Was it too fast for you? Too slow? Too class oriented? The community? General gameplay mechanics?
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You dont' have to experience something to hate what it promotes. Like I don't have to watch My Little Pony to hate it because it was the catalyst for bronies.
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Too slow, far too much focus on ballistics, far too different physics from the original Tribes series, no modding, no dedicated servers, no joy, no hope. A nonsensical set of class decisions (Infiltrator with 1000 health, Soldier has more energy than Pathfinder, almost every Spinfusor is the inferior weapon of each class) and microtransaction greed (27 new weapons in one patch, Jackal, Plasma Gun) only serve to throw the balance even further out of whack. And when something paid works worse than something default, they nerf the default item to force use of the paid option (Energy Pack vs Boost Pack on Pathfinder). Trying to take the game seriously as an installment to Tribes is futile.
And yet, it attracted an audience. This is what people want from their games.