Board 8 > Wii U/3DS Smash games being developed by Namco Bandai.

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From: KamikazePotato | #048
If a Tales rep gets in, it's going to be Yuri Lowell. He's by far the most popular Tales character in Japan, and ToS is getting pretty old.

I originally thought that, but don't you need to have appeared on a Nintendo system to be eligible?

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From: KamikazePotato | #048
If a Tales rep gets in, it's going to be Yuri Lowell. He's by far the most popular Tales character in Japan, and ToS is getting pretty old.

I originally thought that, but don't you need to have appeared on a Nintendo system to be eligible?

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ninkendo posted...

Abyss was just on 3DS though so watch out for Luke

Boo! BOOOOOO!

Give me Asch

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I doubt we'll see a Tales character, as nobody cares about them. Well, nobody who matters in regards to their target. It'll be Pacman and somebody else 'iconic' and that's it.

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Aww yeah! Tales characters gonna get the boost they needed to finally beat Sackboy.

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From: DigitalIncision | #054
I doubt we'll see a Tales character, as nobody cares about them. Well, nobody who matters in regards to their target. It'll be Pacman and somebody else 'iconic' and that's it.

Isn't Tales their best selling series these days in Japan? I remember hearing Xillia outsold Final Fantasy X-2 there. So people do care a lot about Tales, just not Americans... and we've seen in the past that you don't even need to be in an American released game to get into Smash.

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From: DigitalIncision | #054
I doubt we'll see a Tales character, as nobody cares about them. Well, nobody who matters in regards to their target. It'll be Pacman and somebody else 'iconic' and that's it.

Isn't Tales their best selling series these days in Japan? I remember hearing Xillia outsold Final Fantasy X-2 there. So people do care a lot about Tales, just not Americans... and we've seen in the past that you don't even need to be in an American released game to get into Smash.

Musou still sells more than Tales, but it's solidly #2

EDIT: Forgot about Tekken. That's still #1 for them.

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From: FateStayAlbion | #055

I remember hearing Xillia outsold Final Fantasy X-2 there.

Uh...I doubt this.

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From: FateStayAlbion | #055

I remember hearing Xillia outsold Final Fantasy X-2 there.

Uh...I doubt this.

I don't know if it surpassed it's total sales, but when the first week of Xillia and XIII-2 were compared, Xillia had beat it out by a few thousand copies. They were both in the 500K range.

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From: pjbasis | #059
From: FateStayAlbion | #055

I remember hearing Xillia outsold Final Fantasy X-2 there.

Uh...I doubt this.

Oh my bad, I meant FFXIII-2.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/big-in-japan-sept-5-11-tales-of-xillia-6335611
http://www.gamespot.com/news/big-in-japan-dec-12-18-ff-xiii-2-ps-vita-6348023

Tales of Xillia 1st week sales: 525,605
Final Fantasy XIII-2 1st week sales: 525,271

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oh I read it as XIII-2 anyway since I knew what you were talking about

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KOS-MOS please.

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From: ninkendo | #062
oh I read it as XIII-2 anyway since I knew what you were talking about

<___>

Yeah, its pretty well known. I mainly know of it because I remember on /v/ the Tales fans were constantly trolling the Final Fantasy fans since their newest game outsold XIII-2 by like 300 copies. Not really that much but anything to give the Tales fans a reason to gloat I guess.

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I see, that's fairly impressive.

Do we know how long XIII-2 and Xillia stayed charted?

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From: KingKracko | #063

KOS-MOS please.

Jesus god please.

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According to LOLvgchartz,

Tales of Graces (Wii): 220,000
Tales of Graces (PS3): 380,000

Tales of Xillia: 660,000

Final Fantasy XIII-2: 840,000

So will FF probably still gets outsold by Tales, they're more comparable these days. Tales is a big series in Japan.

For reference, Yuri Lowell has won their version of a Tales Popularity Poll 3 times in a row ever since Vesperia came out, which is why he would be the top choice of they decided to include a Tales character.

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I think KOS-MOS would actually be the best fit here.

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.... oh yeah, I forgot KOS-MOS would really work well since MonSoft is Nintendo.

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MonSoft also worked on Brawl, so I'd expect them to be involved with Smash 4 too in a way


..... oh my god KOS-MOS and Kalas confirmed

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I would give anything to have Yuri playable.

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From: KamikazePotato | #048

If a Tales rep gets in, it's going to be Yuri Lowell. He's by far the most popular Tales character in Japan, and ToS is getting pretty old.

No. ToV isn't on Nintendo at all.

As a different note: Never coming to America Confirmed.

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From: Huff n puff 20 | Posted: 6/22/2012 1:35:25 PM | #072

No. ToV isn't on Nintendo at all.

http://pxz.channel.or.jp/entry/bng01.html

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Doesn't Yuri have a cameo in one of the DS Tales of too?

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now what the **** is this

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From: Mer_Mer_Yes_Mer | Posted: 6/22/2012 1:41:58 PM | #075

now what the **** is this

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god Japan is so ****ing weird

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http://kotaku.com/5920460/smash-bros-creator-wants-you-to-stop-mocking-namco

I seriously love Sakurai so much <3

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aw yeah

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Black Turtle did a pretty good job.

Ok I really don't think that a cameo and a cross-over game will cut it for having Yuri appearing in the next Smash, unless you somehow think that Stahn, Reid, Kyle, and Veigue are fair-game for their spin-off/cameo appearances as well.

I mean that's like saying that Phoenix Wright could be in PlayStation All-Stars just because he's in UMvC3.

So unless Vesperia gets ported over to Wii U, don't count on Yuri to have a short at being in despite his massive popularity.

and ya go my sakurai

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From: Silvercross | #004

RIP Smash Brothers
1999 - 2001

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Nothing wrong with wishful thinking. Yuri makes things better.

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From: Silvercross | #004

RIP Smash Brothers
1999 - 2001

2008 would be accurate because melee was still thriving until the abomination came out

but yeah, sakurai is a hack and the best case scenario for smash 4 is if he basically gives namco free reign to do whatever they want

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How is it that almost 100 posts in and most people are still talking about which Tales character might make it in with pretty much no mention of Soul Calibur or Tekken. Those are - y'now - ACTUAL fightining game characters. Yoshimitsu and Nightmare have a much better chance of making it in now than any random Tales character.

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GuessMyUserName posted...

.... oh yeah, I forgot KOS-MOS would really work well since MonSoft is Nintendo.

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MonSoft also worked on Brawl, so I'd expect them to be involved with Smash 4 too in a way


..... oh my god KOS-MOS and Kalas confirmed

ya go my kalas

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From: cyko | #088

How is it that almost 100 posts in and most people are still talking about which Tales character might make it in with pretty much no mention of Soul Calibur or Tekken. Those are - y'now - ACTUAL fightining game characters. Yoshimitsu and Nightmare have a much better chance of making it in now than any random Tales character.

Because as odd as it may seem, Tales has more of a presence on Nintendo systems.

Until recently with Tekken 3D and the upcoming Tag Tournament 2, all Tekken had for Nintendo was Tekken Advance.
And the only SoulCalibur games were SoulCalibur II and SoulCalibur Legends.

Granted it doesn't matter that much with Snake....but even he had more games than that.

And being from a fighting game never mattered for Smash Bros.

That said I wouldn't mind them being in.

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WhiteLens posted...

And being from a fighting game never mattered for Smash Bros.

well that's only because Nintendo has only published one first/second-party fighting game besides Smash Bros

and we'll probably never see Sukapon in this game besides a trophy or sticker

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WalrusJump posted...

From: Silvercross | #004

RIP Smash Brothers
1999 - 2001

2008 would be accurate because melee was still thriving until the abomination came out

but yeah, sakurai is a hack and the best case scenario for smash 4 is if he basically gives namco free reign to do whatever they want

Calling Sakurai a hack is going a bit far, even if you hate Brawl. His Kirbys are pretty great, as are Smash 64 and Melee. And Kid Icarus is pretty damn amazing too.

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From: Erugios | #094

Calling Sakurai a hack is going a bit far

it's liquid wind

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Tales is significantly more important in Japan than Soul Calibur or Tekken is why.

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Erugios posted...

Liquid Wind posted...

WalrusJump posted...

From: Silvercross | #004

RIP Smash Brothers
1999 - 2001

2008 would be accurate because melee was still thriving until the abomination came out

but yeah, sakurai is a hack and the best case scenario for smash 4 is if he basically gives namco free reign to do whatever they want

Calling Sakurai a hack is going a bit far, even if you hate Brawl. His Kirbys are pretty great, as are Smash 64 and Melee. And Kid Icarus is pretty damn amazing too.

sakurai can do platformers, he should not be involved with anything multiplayer unless nintendo wants to get him on like, wii sports U or whatever

man, tellin' fanboys off like that is A+ work.
and i've no problem with this. hell, the Tales of battle system isn't that far off from Smash so the gameplay should be fine. i would expect a couple Symphonia guys, and if you're looking for Tales of characters, you're forgetting that Namco doesn't care who they put in when it come sto cameos. otherwise the Narikiri Dungeon and Radiant Mythology wouldn't have a decent amount of guys on 'em.

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From: Liquid Wind | #097

he should not be involved with anything multiplayer

sounds like Brawl is the only sakurai game you've ever played

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Not a fan of Namco but Brawl did a hell of a lot of stuff right in terms of being a complete package. A decent expansion in the cast and stages, lots of unlockable stuff and a great soundtrack.

Still, I didn't like the changes they made to speed and character weight. Subspace was really bland. They've got 30 some IPs involved and all they can come up with is an army of boring Heartless ripoffs in generic backgrounds rather than using actual stage motifs. It felt like playing Kirby's Dream Land circa 1992.

Online being crap was really par for the course for Nintendo though hopefully the next iteration won't suffer as much.