The Court ruled that Arizona DOES have a right to require its police to check the immigration status of every individual they arrest (which I 100% agree with).
I have no problem with people coming to The Greatest Country on Earth to seek better lives for themselves ("legally" or not, ie by dealing with the ridiculous immigration bureaucracy put in place by Democrats), but I do have a problem with them coming here and committing crimes.
^5 Arizona
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I'm starting to get nervous... whenever the MSM starts predicting outcomes, they are almost always dead wrong. And now the consensus seems to be that the mandate will be struck down.
Here's hoping they are right!
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One of my law school friends heard something about Roberts seeing that the mandate was going to be upheld 5-4 so he switched over so he could write teh opinion to be as narrowly applicable as possible.
One of my law school friends heard something about Roberts seeing that the mandate was going to be upheld 5-4 so he switched over so he could write teh opinion to be as narrowly applicable as possible.
There are literally less than 20 people on the planet who know how they will rule
I doubt your friend has insider information
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One of my law school friends heard something about Roberts seeing that the mandate was going to be upheld 5-4 so he switched over so he could write teh opinion to be as narrowly applicable as possible.
There are literally less than 20 people on the planet who know how they will rule
I doubt your friend has insider information
for whats it worth this rumor has spread and i'm hearing it all over the place now.
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One of my law school friends heard something about Roberts seeing that the mandate was going to be upheld 5-4 so he switched over so he could write teh opinion to be as narrowly applicable as possible.
There are literally less than 20 people on the planet who know how they will rule
I doubt your friend has insider information
I didn't mean to suggest that in a "hey guys, settle down, I'm dropping the knowledge" way:
I was passing it on more as a thought experiment about how about how Supreme Court decisions are made and what determines their long term implications.
The Court holds that the mandate violates the Commerce Clause, but that doesn't matter b/c there are five votes for the mandate to be constitutional under the taxing power.
XD this is a s***show. I'm stepping away from this for a bit.
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The Court holds that the mandate violates the Commerce Clause, but that doesn't matter b/c there are five votes for the mandate to be constitutional under the taxing power.
XD this is a s***show. I'm stepping away from this for a bit.
So basically, as I understand it.
There were two main ways to justify it (as opposed to two ways of striking it down). It could be justified as a tax or as interstate commerce. It was not justified under interstate commerce, but that doesn't make it illegal. Tax provisions do justify it.
Pretty much Alec. They tried to play it as not a tax but really similar and failed to prove it. It's a win for Obama but a bit dirty. Of course, as a tax it still ends up functioning similarly in practice. Different politically however.
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The Court ruled that Arizona DOES have a right to require its police to check the immigration status of every individual they arrest (which I 100% agree with).
I have no problem with people coming to The Greatest Country on Earth to seek better lives for themselves ("legally" or not, ie by dealing with the ridiculous immigration bureaucracy put in place by Democrats), but I do have a problem with them coming here and committing crimes.
^5 Arizona
Oh cool. Good job Supreme court on that one. And the juvenile one I guess (was that really a big issue?). Not happy about Citizens United but not surprised.
Not so happy about the health care one but alright.
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The Court holds that the mandate violates the Commerce Clause, but that doesn't matter b/c there are five votes for the mandate to be constitutional under the taxing power.
XD this is a s***show. I'm stepping away from this for a bit.
So basically, as I understand it.
There were two main ways to justify it (as opposed to two ways of striking it down). It could be justified as a tax or as interstate commerce. It was not justified under interstate commerce, but that doesn't make it illegal. Tax provisions do justify it.
Is this correct?
Yes
5-4 ruling that it violates the Interstate Commerce Clause But 5-4 that it is okay as a tax
So basically, it's 5-4 that the mandate is upheld since it is now apparently a tax. I wonder if that changes how easy/difficult it will be to repeal?
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