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foolm0ron
06/27/12 5:18:00 PM
#51:


From: ImTheMacheteGuy | #047
Workinng on a wizard now (Lvl 45, act 3 nm)

Oh snap I gotta co-op with you

Though I am on act 4 now

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Nevest
06/27/12 5:20:00 PM
#52:


I'm 44 now. Also believe I'm on act 3 of nm. =D We could have three people! >_>

Pwease?

<_<

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foolm0ron
06/27/12 5:21:00 PM
#53:


We could

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Nevest
06/27/12 5:23:00 PM
#54:


I'm finding I'm also enjoying the elemental ally. Was using air, but I'm trying fire now.... are they helpful once you're 60 or should something else be there?

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Nevest
06/27/12 5:32:00 PM
#55:


Eh, this is what I'm using. Liking fists of thunder again after using crippling wave for so long... lol

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/monk#aegijQ!ZYc!aZabZZ

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Black_Hydras
06/27/12 6:32:00 PM
#56:


From: Nevest | #054
I'm finding I'm also enjoying the elemental ally. Was using air, but I'm trying fire now.... are they helpful once you're 60 or should something else be there?

I used the fire one on pre-patch inferno Belial, so he definitely has his uses.

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Hrezs
06/27/12 6:39:00 PM
#57:


Nevest posted...
I'm 44 now. Also believe I'm on act 3 of nm. =D We could have three people! >_>

Pwease?

<_<


I should join you guys. I finished nm as a level 47 monk, but can't start hell til level 50 =(

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Shoenin_Kakashi
06/27/12 7:24:00 PM
#58:


So, what's the preferred primary attack for a monk?

Fist of Thunder - Thuderclap is the most used, as it has consistently high damage(37% extra aoe on every hit) has a built in dash, and Fist of Thunder is the fastest of all the punches. Bounding Light is the only other decent option but it lacks a knockback and it's chain is on 3rd hit.

Deadly Reach, Keen Eye is a good alternative as it provides an impressive Armor boost. Foresight also has it's place in heavy DPS builds using combination strike. Everything else is either nice to have but unnecessary(trident) or crap (everything else, which sucks cause I swear one of them does the Sign of the big dipper)

Crippling Wave, Concussion is used for obvious reasons. Yes it stacks with resolve, but not accumulative(one calculates then the other calulates from there). I used Breaking wave for Ponies because Red and FD do way more damage than I can ever hope to do. Everything else sucks because Crippling Wave sucks.

Hundred Fists is outclassed by Thunderclap in almost every way but does do more damage per hit. The small strikes DO NOT proc life on hit.

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The Mana Sword
06/27/12 7:28:00 PM
#59:


oh god I just bought a weapon that bumped my buffed dps from 6k to 13k

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TheConductorSix
06/27/12 7:47:00 PM
#60:


i saw a fun kite build on stream last night where this monk used Earth Ally and Deadly Reach to Kite everything and stack extreme damage.

He would summon Earth Ally to shoot out a wave then stand behind it and Deadly Reach everything without a high crit chance/damage then repeat it over and over.

It took alot of skill and alot of kiting but he massacred elite packs

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Nevest
06/27/12 8:22:00 PM
#61:


Woot. 47. With a 10k weapon purchase on the AH, I doubled my dps w/ a lvl 60 weapon. =D

Woot!

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Mac Arrowny
06/27/12 8:40:00 PM
#62:


Starting to upgrade my Wizard's defenses a bit and trying out Prismatic Armor over Force. Fun when you can actually survive things. Still tough picking what to upgrade, but I've been keeping an eye towards Armor and especially Resists. Not sure how valuable Vit is, especially when not using Force Armor (currently at 25000 Life).

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Forceful_Dragon
06/27/12 11:45:00 PM
#63:


Early in my inferno career I tried to pick up Intel and All Resist.

Combined with Prismatic Armor to have crazy high all resists.

I have since then decided that I would rather have crit chance and crit damage and even more Intel at the cost of the defensive stats. I would rather just play more skillfully and avoid damage than to sacrifice DPS at this point.

When I'm playing with a friend then I'm not usually going to take anyways and when I'm playing by myself the enemies have enough less HP that the extra DPS is what tips the scales to allow me to melt things quick enough to overcome being alone.

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Nevest
06/28/12 1:11:00 AM
#64:


Yay. 50, about to be 51. Starting Hell.

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Mac Arrowny
06/28/12 1:16:00 AM
#65:


Hmm, interesting. I am fairly focused on DPS, and try to avoid sacrificing Int when I upgrade, but haven't really been going for Crit. I do use Force Weapon and Sparkflint to increase damage though. Crit doesn't increase Hydra damage, does it?

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Forceful_Dragon
06/28/12 1:28:00 AM
#66:


Hydras can crit, yes.

And I've switched back to sparkflint since the patch. Because you get the percentage buff just for activating it, and then you get the damage it deals if they shots actually hit.


And when i'm running act 1 I use energy armor that gives me +5% crit chance. I don't think I can afford to do that on any other acts yet, at least not solo. But with the crit armor turned on I'm at like 33% crit (maybe higher?) And thanks to the green star in my weapon my crits deal 120% damage. So every extra % of crit is an extra 1.2% damage. (based on the non crit damage total)


You don't want to be ALL crit just like you dont want to be ALL attack speed, but it definitely pays dividends to figure out the DPS formula and figure out which factors you can increase to do the most good.


Like when I'm getting ready to buy an upgrade I'll take a few minutes to figure some things out.

For starts I'll REMOVE the piece I'm trying to upgrade and then figure out a few things without factoring in the item's stats.
1) How much damage will I get per 5 INT
2) How much damage will I get per 1% crit (if its a piece that can even roll crit)
3) How much damage do I get for 10% crit damage
4) How much damage will I get per 1% IAS

And especially if you have very low values in some of those areas you would be surprised to learn how much you actually get from them. Like if you have 0 added IAS in your build then you know that every 1% IAS is going to increase your damage by 1%. And so back when rings would commonly roll 15% attack speed it was incredibly useful to just run 60 int and 15% attack speed because how what a massive boost that was to your DPS. But suppose you have 18% from your 2 rings and 0% on your neck. Getting a 8% attack speed neck will not increase your DPS by 8% of what it currently is, it will give you 8% on top of the total that isn't already affected by attack speed. Which is why you have to calc the effect of all the values independent of each other.



I have fun doing stuff like that in a game <_<

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Forceful_Dragon
06/28/12 1:29:00 AM
#67:


From: Nevest | #064
Yay. 50, about to be 51. Starting Hell.


Good luck nevest!

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Solfadore
06/28/12 1:41:00 AM
#68:


I take back what I said about bosses being easier than elites. Hell Butcher took about five tries - kept getting OHKO'd by his charge. Being 2-hit ko'd by literally all his other attacks (including the burning floor) didn't help either. Things are definitely not looking up!

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HeroicGammaRay
06/28/12 11:20:00 AM
#69:


you know he always charges right after his fire beam in the same direction as the beam, right?

also: massive drop rate buffs. definitely noticeable, since i noticed something was off this past run and then went to check the forums for the news
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The Mana Sword
06/28/12 11:22:00 AM
#70:


Yeah drop rates for 60+ items were almost doubled across the board.

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Achromatic
06/28/12 2:41:00 PM
#71:


Update: That Quiver red/fd told me to sell for like 100-200k sold for 800k.

Whoo

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Achromatic
06/28/12 4:45:00 PM
#72:


Amulet:
124 Dex
145 Intel
167 Vit
13% Life
+293 Armor.

Holy hell that looks awesome.

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turbopuns
06/28/12 7:03:00 PM
#73:


anybody want to run a2 inferno? I'm about to start it up.

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Mac Arrowny
06/28/12 8:35:00 PM
#74:


Sent you a friend request.

Second question: is it worth it for a Wizard to use a 1H weapon and and offhand rather than a 2Her?

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turbopuns
06/28/12 8:49:00 PM
#75:


Just as I'm within seconds of finishing off an elite pack that I battled for a while....

*disconnected*

*tries to log back in*

"The authentication service is currently experiencing a high volume of traffic. Please try again later. (Error 37)"



FUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

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turbopuns
06/28/12 10:29:00 PM
#76:


Lag.

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Shoenin_Kakashi
06/28/12 11:39:00 PM
#77:


man, nothing sells in the AH anymore

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Mac Arrowny
06/28/12 11:51:00 PM
#78:


Yeah, kinda annoyed by the increased drop rates. Not sure why Blizzard felt the necessity to do that.

Well, I can understand why (it makes Inferno a lot more beatable without relying on the AH), but it also makes the AH less useful and drives prices down, which you'd think would be bad for Blizzard.

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Nevest
06/29/12 4:59:00 PM
#79:


54.

New least favorite....big giant double hammer hand guys, in a group, jailer electrified shielded.


Bastards.

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Nevest
06/30/12 4:10:00 AM
#81:


Well, about half a bubble from 59...

I wanted to go to bed about 2 or 3 hours ago... but it was like "ok...I can hit 56 then go to bed..."

turned into "ok...57 then..won't take long.."

and so on and so forth.

>_>


I may just stay up until I hit 60 now. <_<

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Nevest
06/30/12 4:37:00 AM
#82:


Also just got my first legendary drop.

The Gibbering Gemstone needed for the staff of herding.

I guess I could go and try to get the rest of the stuff for it.....

>_>

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Forceful_Dragon
06/30/12 4:58:00 AM
#83:


I didn't really get anything amazing during my runs today, but I was very happy to learn that red/chris and I are capable of running inferno ponies again which we were not able to effectively do after they removed the pony traps.

It's nice that they made act 1 so much friendly in terms of drops, but actually being able to get 5 stacks and kill pony groups will still result in the most potential for awesome gear ^_^



From: Nevest | #082
The Gibbering Gemstone needed for the staff of herding.


And I spent 3 hours of zone reloading to get that stone to drop. I kind of hate you for finding it on accident -_-

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HeroicGammaRay
06/30/12 5:45:00 AM
#84:


man act 2 is easy now but it's sooo much less rewarding compared to act 1. the enemies have a lot more health and what's more a lot of them run away from you or become untargetable. took forever to do a 'run' and found nothing of value.

also: i got the gemstone on my first run through caverns of frost
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Forceful_Dragon
06/30/12 5:47:00 AM
#85:


You should feel terrible -_-

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Mac Arrowny
06/30/12 6:44:00 AM
#86:


From: Forceful_Dragon | #083
It's nice that they made act 1 so much friendly in terms of drops, but actually being able to get 5 stacks and kill pony groups will still result in the most potential for awesome gear ^_^


Really? I figured it'd be slow enough that running Act 1 is still likelier to get you better stuff in the same amount of time.

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Forceful_Dragon
06/30/12 6:54:00 AM
#87:


Act 1 may be faster but with ponies you don't have to deal with getting a metric ton of non 60 items in addition to the 61-63 gear.

As long as you can actually clear the elites then you are basically looking at 4-6 extra elite groups to get an automatic rare or three from. We're still going to clear Warden and Butcher mind you, but it's just going to be a quick rush to 5 stacks and boss clear instead of ferreting elite groups out of every nook and cranny.

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Nevest
06/30/12 7:26:00 AM
#88:


Ding. 60.

>_>

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Forceful_Dragon
06/30/12 7:45:00 AM
#89:


Grats ^_^

Now get some sleep!

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Nevest
06/30/12 7:48:00 AM
#90:


But....

I need to finish Hell...

>_>

<_<

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Lopen
06/30/12 7:58:00 AM
#91:


... man I hope you didn't grind to 60 in like act 3. Gonna be a lot of wasted EXP there.

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Nevest
06/30/12 8:18:00 AM
#92:


Didn't grind. Just did everything.

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Nevest
06/30/12 4:08:00 PM
#93:


If anyone needs the black mushroom, I'm in it's spawn room right now. I'll be here for about 10 minutes. I'm sure all of you already have it though.

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Nevest
06/30/12 4:41:00 PM
#94:


Woot. Second kill on Iz gave me the plans. =D

Just need the rainbow now. =(

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ninkendo
06/30/12 6:47:00 PM
#95:


huh my brother just sold some armor for 100 million gold

he should really use the real money auction house ~_~

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Achromatic
06/30/12 6:59:00 PM
#96:


From: ninkendo | #095
huh my brother just sold some armor for 100 million gold

he should really use the real money auction house ~_~


Given the going rates for gold 100 million is worth more than the max he could get from the RMAH.

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HeroicGammaRay
06/30/12 8:39:00 PM
#97:


man an amulet with 40% mf and literally nothing else on it sold for 900k
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Nevest
06/30/12 9:23:00 PM
#98:


Ugh.

It always needs my authenticator at the exact moment my phone is dead. -_-


Note: I use my old iPhone w/ the authenticator on it. I'm sure I could probably just pull it of there and put one on my new phone, but i'm entirely too lazy to do that.

>_>

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Nevest
07/01/12 1:49:00 AM
#99:


FD and I barbing it up in Hardcore. =D

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Forceful_Dragon
07/01/12 1:53:00 AM
#100:


HC barb OP

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