Board 8 > King of Mercenaries Rumble Topic 4: We're over the hump!

(+) Yeah! (+)

Indeed!
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RESULTS/FASTFORWARD
Brock: DONE
Raidou: 10 new Pre, DONE
Vanille: burns extra-infra-on-win, 20 char (20/10+10) to pick up the other two trees
Heihachi: 5 new Peace (15/15), 10 new Pre (10/10), 5 abil (5/10)
EWJ: 2 abil (12/12), 10 new Pass (18/18)
Dekar: done
Ultimecia: 15 Temporal Nullification (25/25), 5 a2 (20/20)
Ice: DONE
Nep: 5/5 char & new Peace, 10 new Pre, DONE

Eliminated: Gemini, Toad, Dragonborn, Raziel, Fox, Cut, Vergil, Birkin
Entering: Doomguy, Exdeath, Inkling, BoF Ryu, Sorey, Valentine

Setup: Inkling is a girl, Ryu gets Peach and Bob genes. May be more but that’s all I have time for atm.
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That is such a whelp transformation from Ryu it's almost not funny... Almost. [it's very funny]

There's only so much you can get from 1's, really. I initially misread the randomization as Bub and Bob which would've been even better!
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NEXT ROUND
Exdeath, Raidou, Heihachi, Vanille w/Ultimecia, Brock, Inkling, Ice
VS.
Neptune, Sorey, Doomguy, Dekar, BoF Ryu, EWJ, Valentine
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Week 27-1: Low Tier
PEACE
Attackers pay down X-Death (18 GP, 7 remain). Defenders pay down Doomguy and Sorey. (14 GP, 11 remain) Siegfried scouts Sorey, Hell Keep, Ancient Cave, and New Junk City. Nep is a Sub Lord now. Valentine loads Orange.

WAR
X-Death, Vanille++ (Brock, Inkling)
VS.
Sorey, Doomguy (Valentine, Dekar+, BoF, EWJ)

Attackers defer. Moe~tal Combat! Let’s see if I can Doomguy. DYNAMITE. X-Death has HUGE GUTS. (1) RIP AND TEAR- SUCCESS. (2) RIP AND TEAR misses Vanille. (3) He dodges the pit. (4) Vanille has HUGE GUTS. (5) RIP AND TEAR VANILLE’S GUTS. (6) KNOCK KNOCK MORAY TOWERS. (7) …We have three more counts but there’s not much point. That, uh, should do. Attackers are gonna bail on this one, and Neptune annoys Inkling. Nobody bids on terrain- Hell Keep

Brock, Inkling [lily ranx]
VS. [Hell Keep- scouted by attackers]
Sorey [scouted], Doomguy [Berserk Pack]


I wanna see berserkguy vs. Brock but this is a blowout right
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The only shot would be is if Brock first evades the three more counts of dynamite, and then pulls off the most gruesome double suplex chain, and got 3-4 suplexes on everyone available [18-24 suplex minimum] considering double strength.

I'd be stupid enough to try it.

Other than that, yeah, it's a bit one sided,

with his upgrades that's not unreasonable (one chain on doomguy, one on sorey) but I feel like doomguy would be able to tank a lot of those?

oh but I see what you're saying he'd need to put the hurt on the other guys too
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yeah, I would bail on that. on top of what you guys said, mikleo armatization has really good healing, so suplex is unlikely to swing things.
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What they said

Biased and all, but it's really really bad and suplex city can actually do something valuable elsewhere. No point burning stuff uselessly.
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Fair enough, especially since currently Ryu might/might not get his character upgrade first, and thusly there's no ressurects on one team's side, [0 second ko's will be extremely effective]

moetal combat was overkill here but she needs to be actually rostered in the other tiers so too bad
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bonus points if you can type up the conversation on how annoying nep would be to the inkling.

I could probably do that if I knew splattoon better!
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RESULTS
Ultimecia: 5 abil2 (10/15)
Ice: DONE
Raidou: DONE
Heihachi: 5 abil, DONE
Brock: DONE
Vanille: 5 abil (5/135)
Inkling: 5 squid (5/10)

Doomguy: 10 abil1 (10/20)
Valentine: 10 new SoB (10/15)
Nep: DONE
Sorey: 2 terrain points on Hell Keep, 10 char (10/15)
Dekar: DONE
BoF: 10 abil2 (10/10)
EWJ: 10 char (10/14)

Week 27-2: High Tier
PEACE
Accession is GROOVY, and Valentine loads more orange. Raidou brings Scathach and Mara. Vanille preps to re-roll suplexes.

WAR
Nep+, Sorey, Doomguy, BoF, Dekar+, Valentine (EWJ)
VS.
MUST WIN: X-Death, Raidou, Heihachi, Vanille w/Ulti, Brock (Ink, Ice)

Attackers defer. Suplex time. Brock only gets a round and a half of suplexes, so let’s reroll that….now he only gets 4. SUPLEX CITY. That gets two and a half rounds. We’ll save X-Death for the rubber match, so that’s that. Accession and Flew Shot also seem better saved here, so onwards to the match!

Attackers take terrain, 11 to 7+3. Road to Celestia.

Nep+ [3], Sorey [3], Doomguy [3], BoF [2], Dekar+ [2], Valentine [4]
VS. [Road to Celestia]
X-Death, Raidou, Heihachi, Vanille, Brock
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Nep, Sorey, Doomguy, BoF Ryu, Dekar, and Valentine have challenged X-Death, Raidou, Heihachi, Vanille, and Brock to a fight! Location of the fight: Road to Celestia - The final stretch connecting Gamindustri with the heavens. Several floating chunks of land are connected by bridges of rainbow light. No monsters are present.

Purple Heart is as she appears in Hyperdimension Neptunia Re;Birth1, at max level and with her best non-broken skills and equipment. She is permanently in HDD form, and whilst she cannot use Linked attacks, EX Finishers and EXE Drive skills can be used once the EXE Drive Gauge has been built up. Brock has suplexed her 3 times.

Sorey is as he appears in Tales of Zestiria, with all orbs and talismans (though they buff only himself and his seraphim) and an endgame skill build. He enters the battle with 5 Blast Gauges and may armatize freely with his seraphim and Neptune during the course of the battle, but armatization cannot be used to revive anyone. He does not have access to Siegfried. Brock has suplexed him 3 times.

Whatever seraphim is best for healing is accompanying Sorey into battle. They are as they appear in Tales of Zestiria, with an endgame skill build. They will enter battle with 5 Blast Gauges. They are considered defeated once Sorey is killed.

Doomguy is as seen in Doom II. He comes to battle carrying a Pistol, Chainsaw, Chaingun, Shotgun, and Plasma Gun. Brock has suplexed him three times.

Ryu is as seen in the endgame of Breath of Fire 3, equipped with the Royal Sword, Divine Helm, Laquer Shield, and Shaman's Ring. He has all of his abilities except Raise Dead and Resurrect, master skills, enemy skills, or accession. Brock has suplexed him twice.

Dekar is as he appears in Lufia 2: Rise of the Sinstrals. He is equipped with the Dekar Blade, Heal Armor, Zirco Shield, Agony Helm, Sea Ring, and Gorgon Rock. He can use his IP attacks and starts with a full gauge, but still needs to build up the meter to use them.

Valentine is as she appears in Skullgirls 2nd Encore with her entire moveset save for Forbidden Procedure: Rebirth Ex Machina, including her other Blockbusters provided she has charged the meter to use them. Brock has suplexed her four times.
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~VERSUS~

X-Death is as he appears in Final Fantasy V. He will fight in his standard armored form and cannot transform, but has all of his endgame power and attacks from all of his boss fights. Additionally, he has access to all of his Brave/HP attacks from Dissidia as well as flight, though the actual Brave/HP mechanics do not apply. He cannot use White Hole, Delta Attack, Zombie Breath or the FFV Version of Grand Cross, nor can he banish anyone to another plane or use the void itself as a weapon.

Raidou Kuzunoha the XIV is as he appears in Devil Summoner: Raidou Kuzunoha vs King Abaddon. He has his Youmetsutou, Tsukikage, and Akatsuki swords, his revolver, and 7 luck locusts. The only demons he can summon are Mara and Scathach.

Mara is as they appear in Devil Summoner: Raidou Kuzunoha vs King Abaddon in their summonable form with max loyalty. The only skills they have are their natural ones, plus Skeptic Crush, Recarm, Pagan Killer. If Raidou dies, they will die with him.

Scathach is as they appear in Devil Summoner: Raidou Kuzunoha vs King Abaddon in their summonable form with max loyalty. The only skills they have are their natural ones, plus Megidolaon, Tarukajaon, Makakajaon . If Raidou dies, they will die with him.

Heihachi Mishima is as seen in the Tekken series, a skilled practitioner of Mishima Style Fighting Karate.

Vanille is as seen in the postgame of Final Fantasy XIII, equipped with Nirvana-Belladonna Wand, Tetradic Crown, Ribbon, Magus's Bracelet, and Magistral Crest, all at max level. She has fully mastered the Ravager, Medic, Saboteur, Sentinel, Commando, and Synergist sections of the Crystarium, and may freely switch between the roles. She may cast Raise and Death, but may not use any Techniques.

Beast Incarnate Brock Lesnar is as seen in WWE Immortals. He is fully upgraded and gains the benefit of his passive, which increases his strength as he defeats enemies, but he has no gear. He may use any attacks Brock Lesnar would and any from the game, but he needs to build meter to use his in game signatures and finisher, and they will not be unblockable here.
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mikleo's the healer

how big is the terrain? is there time for healing? I'm imagining it as bubbly clouds with more rainbows but that might not be correct
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I'm not familiar with this particular location but most neptunia levels are about standard dungeon size, with this one maybe being a bit bigger since I imagine it's towards the end.

I'd expect time to heal and buff, although maybe not 100% for slow casters or against snipers or flyers.
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It's an interesting map, it requires some running around, and hitting two portals to get from one end to the other and lots of islands linked by rainbow bridges with each island usually being higher than the last.

https://youtu.be/bPrydtSaz0w?list=PLBD7hUdTJWuv5jXtNjcRMxFn9RpBhaYPp&t=893
http://neptunia.wikia.com/wiki/Dungeon/Re;Birth1/Road_to_Celestia

The realistic start points is the bottom left for the attacker and top center for the defender. Flying has a very good edge on the map, and defenders with range get a better advantage versus attackers with range due to height differences. There is the chance if not paying attention of portaling from one isle to the next and being murdered on arrival, but that doesn't seem to be the way either team would consider the fight reliably.

in that case I think Team Neptune takes it. Mikleo heals the important people. Purple Heart is really good here (iirc she flies, and I know her ult is turning into a jet), as is Doomguy with a height advantage. Sorey/Mikleo is also really solid range + support.

X-Death and Raidou are all right but I think lose the range battle here.
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Team Sorey.

Spammy archer sniper, Doomguy for suppression and massive buffstacks on top too from Sorey and Nep. This is basically Exdeath vs the world and he can't carry this hard.
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Although we never saw it in a versus match, I'm impressed by the location that Neptune/Purple Heart is attached to. It's a very interesting location for it's size being variable dependent on what each character can do, short range for flyers, and people with very superior jumping skills, medium for gunners, and long range for melee. All you need is to throw Clash in the Clouds onto it, and it'd be a place where almost any good strategy would work.

As for the fight, I can't say anything that hasn't already been brought up, the map gives a large advantage to the team with location knowledge so Nep

How to Nep a Nep Nep
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man I need to bust neptunia back out at some point
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Nep
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Tomorrow maybe? Tonight maybe? Sometime next week probably?
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official prediction is tomorrow
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RESULTS/FASTFORWARD
Doomguy: 10 abil 1 (20/20), 10 abil 2 (10/20)
Valentine: Loads another Orange, 5 new SoB (15/15), 10 char, DONE
Nep: DONE
Sorey: 5 char (15/15), 15 new SoB (15/20)
Dekar: DONE
BoF Ryu: Collects genes for the entire enemy team. 5/5 char, 15/15 new SoB
EWJ: 4 char, DONE

Entering: Bass.EXE, Wily, MMX, Sigma, Tron, BBA Mega Man
Ruling: Robot Masters created or bought by Wily will stay with him in future rounds without taking a slot on the team. MMX’s ability upgrade triggers if his team has lost this cycle. Tron starts with a random number of Servbots, which is…5.

NEXT ROUND
MMX, Bass, Nep, Wily, Dekar, Tron w/BBAMM
VS.
Sorey, Sigma, Doomguy, BoF Ryu, EWJ, Valentine

Setup: MMX takes Neptune’s Stat Multiplier
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Week 28-1: High Tier
PEACE
+5 Servbots. Wily makes Splash Woman. Surgery is GROOVY. Get N or Get Out.

WAR
MMX, White Heart, Bass, Wily, Dekar+ (Tron w/BBAMM)
VS.
Sorey+, Sigma, Doomguy, BoF+, Valentine+, EWJ+

Attackers defer. MMX gets QUIZZED, and goes one for four. Valentine follows up with a KO! Done. Splash Woman does the thing. Time for Console Wars! Done.

Both teams have the exact same approach to money this time, so I’mma random.org within their range. Defenders take it, 3+3 to 4. (22 GP remain) Unfortunately, all their terrains are big and convoluted, but Hell Keep anyway. Splash Woman hits Seraphim.

MMX [KO’d but rostered], White Heart [N], Bass [N], Wily w/Splash [N], Dekar+ [N]
VS. [Hell Keep] [Cow]
Sorey+ [seraphim -70% param], Sigma, Doomguy, BoF+, Valentine+, EWJ+
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White Heart, Bass, Wily, Splash, and Dekar have challenged Sorey, Sigma, Doomguy, Ryu, Valentine, and EWJ to a fight! Location of the fight: Hell Keep - A mix of open areas and winding corridors make up E3M1 of doom. Dead trees provide cover in the more open areas, and all areas of the stage are available, including any secret passages. No power-ups, gun pickups, or enemies are present. There is a cow in the middle of the terrain, neutral to both teams.

White Heart's team all have a 50% parameter boost.

White Heart is as she appears in Hyperdimension Neptunia Re;Birth1, at max level and with her best non-broken skills and equipment. She is permanently in HDD form, and whilst she cannot use Linked attacks, EX Finishers and EXE Drive skills can be used once the EXE Drive Gauge has been built up.

Bass.EXE is as he appears in the Megaman Battle Network series, with access to all the moves and properties of his Omega forms, though if any of his barriers/auras is destroyed, he loses access to all of them for the rest of the fight. He can operate here same as he does on the Net.

Dr. Wily is as he appears in your choice of his custom in his respective Wily Machine. He does not have access to the Wily Capsule. Wily cannot exit his machine and will be considered defeated when his machine is defeated.

Splash Woman is as seen in Mega Man 9. Her trident is now capable of hovering slightly above the ground even if not in the water. She is not limited to using her boss patterns exclusively.

Dekar is as he appears in Lufia 2: Rise of the Sinstrals. He is equipped with the Dekar Blade, Heal Armor, Zirco Shield, Agony Helm, Sea Ring, and Gorgon Rock. He can use his IP attacks with enough meter, and starts with it full.
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~VERSUS~

Sorey is as he appears in Tales of Zestiria, with all orbs and talismans (though they buff only himself and his seraphim) and an endgame skill build. He enters the battle with 5 Blast Gauges and may armatize freely with his seraphim during the course of the battle, but armatization cannot be used to revive anyone. He does not have access to Siegfried.

Lailah, Mikleo, Edna and Dezel are accompanying Sorey into battle. They are as they appear in Tales of Zestiria, with an endgame skill build. They will enter battle with 5 Blast Gauges, and will be permanently invisible and inaudible to Dekar, EWJ, Ryu, and Valentine. Only one Seraph may be on the battlefield at a time, with your choice beginning on the battlefield, and the others dwelling inside him. He may swap between them as seen in the game, and inactive seraphim will heal gradually over time, including from death, but they are considered defeated once Sorey is killed. They have a 70% parameter reduction.

Doomguy is as seen in Doom II. He comes to battle carrying a Pistol, Chainsaw, Chaingun, Shotgun, and Plasma Gun.

Ryu is as seen in the endgame of Breath of Fire 3, equipped with the Royal Sword, Divine Helm, Laquer Shield, and Shaman's Ring. He has all of his abilities except Raise Dead and Resurrect, master skills, enemy skills, or accession. May use Raise Dead. Gear setup becomes Royal Sword, Dragon Shield, Dragon Helm, and Soul Ring.

Valentine is as she appears in Skullgirls 2nd Encore with her entire moveset including Forbidden Procedure: Rebirth Ex Machina, including her other Blockbusters provided she has charged the meter to use them.

Earthworm Jim is as powerful and GROOVY as he is depicted in Earthworm Jim 1 and 2. He has his power suit, his trusty blaster with max ammunition, 9 shots of mega plasma, his bubble gun, and his head (which can be used as a whip, copter, rope, etc.). Also the Three Finger Gun and Homing Missiles from Earthworm Jim 2, and his Pocket Rocket.
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I'm going to wait for some arguments before I vote here, since at the moment I'm assuming the powerhouses are Sorey and Nep-person. But Sorey is reduced parameters (kinda). But his team also has different revives on hand
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(MMX's corpse is also here I guess but I don't think that's relevant?)

I feel like the parameter boost is a LOT but I really don't know this batch of mercs at all.
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Bass.exe
There's just too much raw power on the field to deal with.

To expand on it, the enemy doesn't have anything they can do until they get into melee to damage bass with a boosted life aura.

Sorey's ok, but his armatizations aren't going to do anything with his friends being trash..

Also Dr. Wily finds it funny that X's corpse shows up 3.5 minutes into the fight.

Having ressurects can only do so much in the situation where they can't do the chip damage needed which makes it valuable to have said ressurects.

and err, what happened with Sigma in the writeup?

he should be there
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Sigma ducked out of the writeup, cause he's a jerk. Not that it changes my opinion of how the fight goes. Console wars is a hell of a stat boost when you pull off a completely one sided buff with it.

basically what Zeeks said. if the seraphim were at full power I'd have to think more about this, but nerfing armatized Sorey means the team is screwed.

Team Splash Woman
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oh yeah I somehow completely missed console wars

though I also missed sigma

well console bass presumably beats sigma anyway
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nep-nep'D
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Tom Bombadil posted...

nep-nep'D

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/765/904/eb9.png sums it up.

RESULTS
Nep: DONE
BBAMM: 10/10 abil 1
Bass: 10/10 new Res, picks???
Tron: 10/10 abil 1
MMX: 5/5 abil 2, 5 char (5/30), takes???
Wily: 10 new Pre (10/20)
Dekar: DONE

EWJ: DONE
Doomguy: 5 abil 2 (15/20)
Sigma: 5/20 new Pre
BoF: Gains Nep and Tron genes. 5/20 abil 1
Sorey: 5 new SoB (20/20)
Valentine: DONE


okay what would be the best thing for bass to get:
-MMX-ified Stat Multiplier
-MMX force armor
-A Seraph
-A Wily Machine

I'm leaning towards Stat Multiplier m'self

Same question for MMX's learnin'- I assume Sorey or Ryu have something neat.
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Hmm... plotwise bass would get the stat multiplier no question. not sure what would be best or worst to choose..

I'd actually grab something from Sigma for X. Like his ability to teleport while in combat...

Makes sense!

Anybody else have thoughts for the bass custom?
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Week 28-2: Low Tier

PEACE
Sigma Virus is GROOVY, and Valentine loads a second Green because I forgot to do that last week. +5 Servbots. Attackers pay down Sigma and Doomguy (18 GP, 4 remain); Defenders pay down Bass and Wily (18 GP, 7 remain). Wily makes Guts Man.

WAR
MUST WIN: Sigma, Doomguy (Valentine+, BOF+, EWJ+)
VS.
Bass, Wily w/Guts (Tron w/BBAMM, Dekar)

Sigma Virus @ Bass. Life Aura is disabled, Independent and Variable Weapons System are in use. Bass’s Custom would be randomized if he had more than one option. He WILL be rostered. I’m tempted to Doomguy but nah, done. Bass makes Dekar a strong independent man who don’t need no assists. Guts shakes the world.

Defenders take terrain, 2+3 to 4. (5 GP remain) I want a small terrain, but too bad. Wily’s Castle?

[Knocked down] Sigma, Doomguy
VS. [Wily]
Bass (random get), Wily w/Guts
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Sigma and Doomguy have challenged Bass, Wily, and Guts to a fight! Location of the fight: Wily Castle - A massive, robotic castle filled with various tricks and traps and skull motifs. Nothing to cause instant death here, and all enemies have been removed, but any automatic machinery is still up and running.

Sigma is as he appears in his first form in Mega Man X1, though he also has access to all the weaponry and moves of his first form final battles in X2, X3, X4, and X5. He starts knocked down.

Doomguy is as seen in Doom II. He comes to battle carrying a Pistol, Chainsaw, Chaingun, Shotgun, and Plasma Gun. He starts knocked down.

~VERSUS~

Bass.EXE is as he appears in the Megaman Battle Network series, with access to all the moves and properties of his Omega forms, though if any of his barriers/auras is destroyed, he loses access to all of them for the rest of the fight. He can operate here same as he does on the Net. He also has whatever Custom we retroactively give him from the list a few posts up

Dr. Wily is as he appears in your choice of his custom in his respective Wily Machine. He does not have access to the Wily Capsule. Wily cannot exit his machine and will be considered defeated when his machine is defeated.

Guts Man is as seen in Mega Man. He does not shake the ground so hard when moving that he automatically knocks people down, and he may throw things that aren't special blocks. He is not limited to using his boss patterns exclusively.
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I'll need time to think on this.. this looks like an interesting battle.

Still no decision on my end, because although Sigma and doomguy do have the advantage against wily in physical power, Wily has home field advantage and a serious x factor against Sigma being the origination of where the Sigma virus came from. The Bass.exe want to solo clause doesn't really matter much either due to how frickin messy it is to get around a wily lab, and there's one working path.

There is also the fact that there could be locations in the lab that make a better fight location for wily than just empty field, like elevators where he can be shooting down from above... And Wily is definately one that will do a retreating fight if possible, to last as long as possible.

well then couldja please help keep this from purging for the next couple days?
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