Board 8 > KCF plays Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney - Spirit of Justice

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KCF0107
05/01/17 8:15:16 PM
#301:


Oh, I was thinking that Paul pushed Archie from the second floor and Archie hit is head on the suitcase during the fall. I guess the suitcase was originally on the second floor and Paul pushed it on top of Archie from above.

I feel dumb for not realizing the coffee stain on the book came from when it was at the coffee bar. To my defense, I didn't even know that was a coffee bar. I thought it was a work station with a coffee machine conveniently nearby. Then again, what kind of idiot would deal with ancient objects right next to a coffee machine?

So I appear to be correct for Phoenix's reason for representing Paul. I was just wrong about the girl. Yep, it's Maya.

After Phoenix brought it up, it comes as no surprise that Paul's benefactor is seeking the spiritual power mentioned in the Dance of Devotion. It's probably Inga since he isn't of royal blood. He's also an ass.

Maya the "legendary" for assistant. I laughed.
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SeabassDebeste
05/01/17 8:16:30 PM
#302:


KCF0107 posted...
1. We took testimony from a drone piloted by an unhinged 12-year-old girl fitted with military weaponry that on no fewer than five occasions was fired upon the people in the room
2. Said girl magically appeared in court presumably hundreds of miles away
3. We had a 19-year-old girl use a device that claims to understand the discord in person's voice, and that somehow includes a drone with a heavily distorted voice
4. This is a court system that allows anyone who feels like it to move to and walk away from the witness stand
5. This is a court system where no fewer than 25 laws or rules are broken in any given trial
6. We allowed a witness to be carried in via a carriage
7. Two men wanted on charges that would have them extradited and then executed in their home countries showed up to court when they didn't have to

i love ace attorney!

KCF0107 posted...
"A vote for Paul is a vote to banish murder forever in Kurain." - Paul

yessss
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KCF0107
05/01/17 8:21:00 PM
#303:


Maya is the only one capable of fulfilling the Dance of Devotion? I guess we are pretending that Pearl cannot do spirit channeling. Never mind, Paul gets it!

Now we have the ulterior motive for wheeling Armie. She was just at the spot where Paul needed to push the suitcase off.

What the hell is a banzai? I know of Banzai Bill. I also thought it was a plant, but that is bonsai.

Only the queen knows the founder's name. You know what, why didn't Inga just force his wife to do this a long time ago? Maybe that means I am wrong about the benefactor. Also, I wonder what the odds are that the founder's name is a Fey? Based on Lady Kee'ra's name, maybe they are only interested in first names.

It appears muscle atrophy doesn't apply to Armie. Congrats on being the first person in human history to not be affected by it!
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Paratroopa1
05/01/17 8:21:49 PM
#304:


Banzai is what you shout when an American politician wins an election for mayor in a typical American town
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Paratroopa1
05/01/17 8:22:23 PM
#305:


KCF0107 posted...
It appears muscle atrophy doesn't apply to Armie. Congrats on being the first person in human history to not be affected by it!

Now you know the real reason behind her last name
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KCF0107
05/01/17 8:23:35 PM
#306:


Armie 12, so what the hell is she going to do now as an orphan? She was booted off-screen, so I guess that means I am not supposed to give a shit any longer. Out of sight, out of mind! Capcom are true savages.

Oh, NOW, we are apparently in the US. It would make no sense on any level for Kurain to be in Japan, so this appears to be continuity errors with the localization.

End of Case, not Episode
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KCF0107
05/01/17 8:26:05 PM
#307:


Pros
+ Trial Paul
+ Investigation portion was interesting and changed things up
+ Nice seeing Pearl, if only briefly

Cons
- Investigation Paul
- Apollo vs Phoenix was all hype
- Too much irrational heavy-handedness
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SeabassDebeste
05/01/17 8:29:38 PM
#308:


KCF0107 posted...
Oh, NOW, we are apparently in the US. It would make no sense on any level for Kurain to be in Japan, so this appears to be continuity errors with the localization.

kurain is in the same country as everything else, and i feel like that's consistently referred to as america in the localization? it's stated to be heavily influenced by khura'inese culture, though

where does it say it's in japan?
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Paratroopa1
05/01/17 8:33:57 PM
#309:


Kurain is somewhere in Japan in the Japanese version and it is somewhere in the States in the NA version - this has never changed
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KCF0107
05/02/17 2:36:56 AM
#310:


KCF0107 posted...
The orb contains a pattern that traces its origins to Khura'in, so it isn't a foregone conclusion that the orb was made in Japan (I guess localization didn't change it to the US like it normally did).

The implication was that the Crystal of Ami Fey was made in Kurain. Here you can see that I came across a line of text saying that Kurain was in Japan. A crime committed in Kurain would not be tried in the US if Kurain was in Japan. Hence, the localization flubbed and the result was a continuity error.
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KCF0107
05/02/17 2:39:40 AM
#311:


I always figured both locations were the US in localization efforts, but this case's script out that into question. It wasn't until that last remark by Apollo pist-trial that confirmed that this was in the US that I realized the localization team had erred.
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Paratroopa1
05/02/17 2:42:48 AM
#312:


I'm fairly sure there was a line in there explaining that the lineage came from Khura'in, went to Japan, and then to Kurain. I don't think they ever said Kurain was in Japan, just that Kurain's inhabitants and descedants immigrated from Japan.
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KCF0107
05/02/17 7:20:14 PM
#313:


Dhurke referred to the benefactor as a little snot. That's either a condescending remark or he truly means a child. There is no chance in hell that it's Rayfa. Right? Dhurke says it is Inga, so condescending remark it is! Inga is threatening Nah's safety, but there's no loss there!

Miles finally makes his appearance. I guess we need Butz, Gumshoe, and Oldbag to complete the team. Oh, and Mia would have to be undead. Being channeled won't cut it.

Poor Trucy is left behind. She's more useful than Athena, but I am guessing this means that the next (and final?) trial will include Widget. If not, heads will roll.

Inga is listed as the same age as Datz and Dhurke. That cannot be a coincidence. I wouldn't be surprised if Apollo's father turns out to have been born the same year as well.

Oh yeah, I totally forgot about the previous queen being murdered. I previously said that Inga or the current queen killed her. I guess we will likely resolve that this case as well.
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KCF0107
05/02/17 7:28:07 PM
#314:


Inga is dead and Dhurke is standing over him with a knife and blood on his clothes. Things got heated rather quickly! At least I already know who will be my client this case.

Since there's a really high chance that Dhurke did not kill Inga, I doubt that they would make it so a dead guy was responsible for the death of Amara and Apollo's father (assuming the latter is in fact dead and was murdered), the current queen (Ga'ran?), Datz, and Nah seem to be in the culprit pool right now for all outstanding, unresolved deaths.

Yeah, like I'm going to believe that Dhurke managed to get free from all the guards subduing him and threw the orb at Apollo without anyone but Apollo noticing.

Over 10 year since Apollo left Khura'in? Now over 10 years could mean 20, 50, or 1999, but I was under the impression that Apollo's stay in Khura'in was a brief one, and they are suggesting that he was there for 5-10 years. That's not exactly brief, especially in the life of a child.

Datz was not with us as soon as we left the plane in Khura'in. Interesting...
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SeabassDebeste
05/02/17 7:34:12 PM
#315:


inga getting killed at the beginning of day 2 was a huge hype moment for me - i'd just wantonly assumed he would be the big bad for 6-5 and was already disgusted
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KCF0107
05/02/17 7:37:10 PM
#316:


Ugh, I have to be Apollo with Athena tagging along instead of Phoenix, Edgeworth, and Maya. Why are you doing this to me?

It cost $800 million in Khura'inese currency to build a tomb for a single individual, and none of it came at the expense of the royal family. They must have studied how sports stadiums are financed in the US. They even said that the local economy received a "huge boost." NOW I am certain that the royal family is a modern sports team owner. I am going to lie to myself and say that the writers intentionally made that symbolic social commentary.

Dhurke hasn't even been found guilty of assassinating Amara, not that we can rely on what anybody in the criminal justice system's word in this alternate universe.

Dhurke got dizzy and doesn't remember what happened in Amara's Tomb. Is this the new amnesia for Japan?

It appears this might be a double trial. This is going to be soooooo long.
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SeabassDebeste
05/02/17 7:45:34 PM
#317:


KCF0107 posted...
Dhurke got dizzy and doesn't remember what happened in Amara's Tomb. Is this the new amnesia for Japan?

this is the worst, and it's practically required for most cases to work these days.
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KCF0107
05/02/17 7:47:06 PM
#318:


Amara was allegedly killed when an arsonist set her home on fire. Dhurke was married to her. Go figure. Fuck, I forgot that Nah was probably going to be the prosecutor for this trial.

Info dump investigating the crime scene:
- Inga died from a single stab wound to the back
- ETD was 3 PM
- Crime scene was sealed off
- Motive for abducting Maya might not be what it seems (possibly kidnapped for Ga'ran who in turn killed Inga when things went south)
- Tomb is located at the same spot where Amara died
- Tomb Diagram shows a clearly broken statue
- Said broken statue has two magatamas nearby
- Bullet that matched Inga's gun found near broken statue
- Bloody butterfly pendant without fingerprints also near broken statue. Blood belonged to Inga, and I associate Nah with butterflies
- Bloodstain on and below chair that Maya was tied to. It leads to Amara's sarcophagus. The blood does not belong to Dhurke, Maya, or Inga
- Alleged murder weapon has an unidentifiable second set of fingerprints
- Inga was killed instantly being stabbed in the back and fell forward, yet there's a lot of blood on the sarcophagus when there was not enough space for the assailant to be behind him unless they were on/in the sarcophagus
- Inga's gun had room for four bullets in the chamber. The chamber is empty, and only one bullet was recovered. The gun is also broken, believed to be after it fired
- Amara's sarcophagus is locked. It is temperature-controlled, and is kept cold enough to preserve a body
- An emerald button from Inga's jacket is in a trough full of ask. It also has soot all over it
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KCF0107
05/02/17 7:48:16 PM
#319:


SeabassDebeste posted...
KCF0107 posted...
Dhurke got dizzy and doesn't remember what happened in Amara's Tomb. Is this the new amnesia for Japan?

this is the worst, and it's practically required for most cases to work these days.

I think only the first case had the defendant or a key witness not pass out during a murder.
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SeabassDebeste
05/02/17 7:52:47 PM
#320:


1-2 had the defendant show up after the murder. 1-3 had Powers passed out, but it was because he was drugged, and the murder took place at a different scene. 1-4 had Edgeworth show up afterward, with no passing out.

It's only at 2-2 where we start to have conveniently knocked out/passed out witnesses/defendants.

(and now, i am realizing that you were talking about AA6. DAMMIT.)
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Paratroopa1
05/02/17 8:02:34 PM
#321:


I'm thinking back on it and I don't recall "the defendant passed out or doesn't remember" being a thing in very many cases
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SeabassDebeste
05/02/17 8:05:21 PM
#322:


immediately coming to mind: maya (2-2), maggey (3-3), damian tenma (5-1), maya in 6-3, athena in 5-5

for witnesses, olga orly (4-1) jumps to mind immediately. lamiroir is KO'd by daryan in 4-3.
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Paratroopa1
05/02/17 8:06:57 PM
#323:


Athena in 5-5 is a stretch, she only doesn't remember UR-1 because of like PTSD, for the current-day murder she had literally zero involvement whatsoever and wasn't even at the scene of the crime (something that really bugs me about 5-5)
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SeabassDebeste
05/02/17 8:09:09 PM
#324:


isn't she unable to provide an alibi for present day because she passed out? it denies us witness testimony at the very least
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_SecretSquirrel
05/02/17 9:07:55 PM
#325:


Paratroopa1 posted...
Athena in 5-5 is a stretch, she only doesn't remember UR-1 because of like PTSD, for the current-day murder she had literally zero involvement whatsoever and wasn't even at the scene of the crime (something that really bugs me about 5-5)

She wasn't at the crime scene, but she was at an exactly identical place as the crime scene and blacked out there.
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KCF0107
05/03/17 6:15:43 PM
#326:


So the time I had available to take my laptop somewhere to provide an update I set aside for a roofing company to check into a leak. They never showed.
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SeabassDebeste
05/03/17 6:22:42 PM
#327:


if you have a laptop, why don't you do your writeups at home and just post them all at once when you have internet?
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KCF0107
05/03/17 6:33:32 PM
#328:


I kind of do that. I write raw thoughts into a notebook. Later, I go through them seeing what I should cut, refine and combine. Then I post those revisions when I can.
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KCF0107
05/04/17 7:38:31 PM
#329:


Yeah Apollo, you totally "won" against Phoenix. There certainly weren't any mitigating circumstances.

Whew, when the "To Be Continued" screen popped up, I was worried that we were already going to trial. Oh thank god, I am back to being Phoenix and Edgeworth is tagging along!

"I didn't come all the way to Khura'in to be useless" - Edgeworth
- If only everyone adopted that attitude and meant it

Two sets of evidence with overlap? Will Apollo and Phoenix be heading separate trials? It is probably more likely that we will have one of those Magatama locks that require this evidence.

What kind of queen addresses a guest from another land as barbed lawyer?
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KCF0107
05/04/17 7:38:36 PM
#330:


What the hell was Rayfa hitting Phoenix with that make such an odd sound effect?

Inga wasn't just planning on gaining spiritual power but take the throne? I'm not buying that right now since I am sure that Ga'ran played a prominent role in at least one of the murders. It is possible for it to be true, and that provided motive for Ga'ran to kill Inga. She would also be able to get Dhurke to take the fall and make it less likely that someone would discover she was the arsonist from way back, or something to that effect.

I'm also putting it out there that we haven't seen Ga'ran use her spiritual power, and I'm not certain that we've had confirmed reports of her doing stuff like channeling or performing that seance ever. Another possible theory of mine is that both Inga and Ga'ran plotted the arson, getting the orb's secrets figured out by Archie, and use it so (likely) Ga'ran has spiritual powers to ensure her place on the throne. Inga then fucked things up, and Ga'ran had a contingency plan as an insurance policy.

Ga'ran was the previous Minister of Justice. I am feeling better about a potential mutually beneficial murder plot regarding Amara.
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KCF0107
05/04/17 7:45:47 PM
#331:


When are we going to get around to seeing this evidence that Dhurke supposedly falsified to get him acquitted of murdering his wife? Knowing how Ace Attorney operates, it won't be until well into the trial.

Going to the bazaar is going to bring back Ahlbi isn't it? Oh, it's a potential suspect in either case, Datz. Yes, Datz did what I was hoping he would do and throw a firecracker at Rayfa! For further amusement, I will pretend he threw it directly at her face.

Phoenix, Edgeworth, and Rayfa. A real dream (investigation) team if there ever was one. "No one would dare get in our way" - Phoenix on teaming up with Rayfa
- Atta boy Phoenix, use Rayfa's status to your advantage!

Inga and Ga'ran had different living quarters? Maybe it's nothing and that's just a cultural thing, but maybe their marriage was on the rocks.
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KCF0107
05/04/17 8:04:05 PM
#332:


"as if" - Edgeworth on Phoenix playfully asking if he was missed in the US
- I totally read that in a sassy teenager voice. I really wish more than three lines were voiced by people other than Rayfa during a seance and the trial gallery.

I have a feeling that this dog that seems to be important to the case is the one that tags along with Ahlbi.

Inga's Quarters Info Dump:
- Old, muddy footprints come from the outside and lead who knows where inside
- Inga took painkillers for his back via syringe
- There's a safe
- There's a notebook of physical characteristics of various characters

Nayna is currently AWOL. Nayna is Rayfa's teacher in all things. Interesting that Nayna must either have spiritual power or is so intimately familiar with spiritual power to instruct Rayfa on how to harness and use hers. Lol, Edgeworth is now Nayna's stand-in.
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KCF0107
05/04/17 8:04:11 PM
#333:


The safe combination was Rayfa's birthday, but that doesn't necessarily mean that the 1224 key was meant to represent that. The contents do suggest that Inga cherished Rayfa, but would anybody be so idiotic that they would write themselves a useless note that says that they intend to kill their wife and the reasons why, let alone keep it in their room? That screams "FAKE!"

The photo inside is clearly Amara and presumably Nah, but I guess Phoenix doesn't know what she looks like yet and might not know of the Shadmadi...Samhadi...Dhurke's family! I don't really know why it is in the safe though. I suppose it is possible that Inga was not married to Ga'ran back then, and he was contracted to kill the person in that photo. I don't know why he would keep it in that scenario. I also don't know why the person who planted the note in the safe (assuming the writers don't suck at their jobs) would then take it if it was Ga'ran. Is Nayna, like a horrible person? I'm not sure how I would react to her being the main villain. Anyway, I'm just spitballing ideas.

Back to the contents of the safe, it is interesting that the only thing he had of his wife in there was that note that he totally wrote. If this is the frame job that I am desperately hoping it is, then I can actually see any such items that he had of his wife being taken out.

I am going to see how long I can put off seeing Ahlbi since I know I have to confront him soon. I don't hate him, but he doesn't really ever say anything interesting. I went to see if I could show Ga'ran the photo of her sister and nephew. No dice. The game then made me confront Ahlbi.
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KCF0107
05/04/17 8:10:43 PM
#334:


Ahlbi has Nayna's hat, and he got it outside of Inga's quarters. Could Nayna be part of Inga's personal network?

Ahlbi apparently saw Ga'ran channel a spirit. If that holds up, one of my major possible theories goes down the drain. He saw it at 2:10 too. That seems a little early for Ga'ran to have left Amara's sarcophagus unlocked so that she could channel Amara and use her to kill Inga from her actual grave. Oh wait, why was I thinking that spirit channeling involved you placing your soul into the body of a corpse? Disregard all that.

Ahlbi claims that Ga'ran was channeling a spirit for a neighboring kingdom's king. Is it odd that my biggest question is how the fuck would Ahlbi know that person was the king from another land? That photo does nothing to prove that she was spirit channeling. It looks exactly like Ga'ran when we all know that you change your appearance to the person that you are channeling.

The royal guard is chasing Apollo or Athena. They could either be following those two to something important or they are trying to apprehend them. I assume it is the latter and it's all Athena's fault.
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SeabassDebeste
05/05/17 10:33:23 AM
#335:


Oh man, didn't see all this. Great progress - Phoenix and Edgeworth's dual investigation is one of the GOAT investigation segments.

LOVING all the questions about Nayna. That was by far the biggest hype point going into trial. And as Para pointed out, the sarcophagus is just a huge smoking gun. You're very deliberately locked out of it. What does it mean?!
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KCF0107
05/06/17 1:10:05 PM
#336:


Should provide an update later
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KCF0107
05/06/17 5:53:06 PM
#337:


Yep, they are being chased in a bad way. I guess they know Apollo has the Founder's Orb, but I can't imagine how. Phoenix handed over evidence to Apollo, so I guess the overlapped evidence was indeed pointless.

Surprise, surprise, Amara was drugged before the fire. That being said, I didn't know that you could run a conclusive toxicology report on a charred body. Not only that, but her sarcophagus was meant to preserve her body right? Something doesn't add up.

More in unexpected news, Apollo's father's death is involved in all of this. Well, unless his name is different that what I was told, I expect us to do a seance on him. Seeing as including Apollo's father in all this has added nothing of value, I'm going to assume that he will have died try to save a life or did something nefarious.

I wanted to bring this up before because I wasn't sure, but now I am certain that Dhurke's law book should not be in that photo with Amara. Dhurke branded that book after the DCA, but the DCA wasn't conceived until after Amara's death. This can only suggest that Amara did not die in the fire. This also means that the person that Inga was originally referring to in regards to harming someone that Dhurke loved was actually Amara. The question is if Dhurke knew that he was referring to Amara. If that is also what they held over Nah, then that means Nah also knows. Man, these guys are assholes withholding that information. I bet that during the upcoming trial, Rayfa will be unable to seance Amara and will have to do Jove instead.

Yeah sure, give Datz the Founder's Orb. I can't think of a more reliable person for such a task.
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KCF0107
05/06/17 5:53:12 PM
#338:


I can't even show Dhurke the photo of Amara. Ugh, I hate it when they force me to find out something I figured out on their own terms.

"He [Inga]'s probably in hell now being tormented by those he wrongfully put to death." - Dhurke
- So all people basically go to hell in Khura'inese? I can't imagine who's left if even the wrongfully accused earn a one-way ticket to eternal torture.

With Dhurke's evasiveness, I now have more questions than answers regarding the butterfly pendant found at the crime scene.

I'm glad that not only my suspicions about the Amara photo are proving to be correct, but we are addressing them now before court. I knew it, she is alive! Dhurke did not come out and say that it was Nah in the photo despite having conversations set up that he could and should have. I'm having a bad feeling that it will be Rayfa or Nah.
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KCF0107
05/06/17 5:56:29 PM
#339:


1. Hey Apollo, I've got a big secret
2. Hey Apollo, I can't tell you
3. Hey Apollo, I'd be betraying someone if I told you
- I do not know what I dislike more, the over-reliance on amnesia/passing out or the constant, empty teases

I guess Rayfa's bizarre sound effect is from her punching. It sounds like she has some rare form of brittle bone disease solely concentrated on her fists.

Anyway, Inga having the photo in his safe must have been leverage against Ga'ran, so it would seem she still has the biggest motive. However, someone went through that safe earlier. We also don't know about Nayna.
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SeabassDebeste
05/06/17 11:52:43 PM
#340:


perceive "hype"
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KCF0107
05/07/17 1:36:41 AM
#341:


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Dhurke did not come out and say that it was Nah in the photo despite having conversations set up that he could and should have. I'm having a bad feeling that it will be Rayfa or Nah.

I meant Ahlbi at the end. I realize that I forgot to come up with some pre-trial theories since that's what is next. I will have those tomorrow.
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KCF0107
05/07/17 11:57:07 PM
#342:


Well, actual theories of the how are pointless since without fail, there is new, case-changing evidence introduced mid-trial.

We have four major questions entering the trial:

1. Who killed Inga?
2. Where is Nayna?
3. Who started the fire 23 years ago?
4. Who killed Jove?
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05/08/17 12:07:46 AM
#343:


1. While she was in front of everyone when it occurred, Ga'ran has the clearest, in my mind, motive since Inga was a threat to keeping many of her secrets. Chief among them is my belief that she has no spiritual power and thus has no right to be queen.

2. Call me crazy, but in the court record, Nayna has the same facial tattoo as both Dhurke and Amara. Given the series usually has a major character disguise themselves as another character, I think that Spirit of Justice's contribution to continue the tradition will be Amara is Nayna.

3. I have no idea if Inga was in Ga'ran's life that long ago, so the safe bet is Ga'ran. I wanted to say Jove as Dhurke said that Apollo would hear some painful truth in court. However, Apollo doesn't really have any feelings for a father he didn't know, so it's probably about Dhurke.

4. I hope that both acts weren't committed by the same person, but I see little reason right now to think it is anyone but Ga'ran.
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05/08/17 12:11:45 AM
#344:


I also think that Rayfa is Amara's daughter if she is in fact Nana and that is her in the photo with Amara. I don't know if that would make Dhurke the father or not since I am getting mixed feelings concerning the letters in Inga' s safe. Those too could have been planted.
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05/08/17 6:30:49 PM
#345:


I just saw a video of the Defiant Dragons seizing the court. How is there still a trial?

Oh, NOW it is not okay for someone to take the stand when they feel like it
- Dhurke was warned by the judge

Ga'ran will be the prosecutor. Hopefully, she's a sizable step up from Nah. Before she was queen, she was the Minister of Justice. Before the was that, she was a prosecutor. Someone needs power to sustain herself. What the fuck, she looks terrifying and 100% totally guilty of at least one count of homicide.

I was hoping that Edgeworth would remain Nayna's (Amara's?) stand-in, but maybe he's still at the Dragon's HQ.

Rayfa could not do the séance. Well this has started off well. Onto the witness testimony! Well Dhurke's testimony totally sucked. Uh...Plan C? Datz, you still have those firecrackers and smokebombs (he used those before right?) on you?

Dhurke forbids violence in “his” revolution, but I distinctly remember seeing his rebels punch out, among other things, policemen/royal guards in a video not that long ago. Looks like he doesn't have much control over his compadres.
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05/08/17 6:31:23 PM
#346:


Unknown blood does prove a fourth person was there. I wonder if Nayna/”Nayna” was shot, killed, and placed in that sarcophagus. There are multiple unaccounted bullets. Well, we at least brought up that the real killer could have entered the sarcophagus. Unfortunately, Ga'ran says that the entire tomb was under surveilance since the murder. Ga'ran would not have been able to kill Inga under these circumstances, so we are back to square one.

Didn't Ema test the blood at the scene and say it wasn't a match for anyone at the scene? How could it be Dhurke's then?

Ace Attorney has many traditions that I am not a fan of. For what I assume is the 25th time, the time of death is earlier than what was on the ME report. If it was well before 3 PM and I think Inga entered 15-20 minutes before Dhurke went in, then I assume Ga'ran (even with the “channeling” photo) had a window of opportunity.

Rayfa says that Inga was heading toward the tomb at 2:30, and nobody left the tomb when he entered. Ga'ran is back off the suspect list! It's not looking good for Nayna/”Nayna”

A shriek came from Inga's quarters just before he left for the tomb. Rayfa believes the shriek came from Inga. We know that Ahlbi's dog was around there, and the contents of the safe had to have been tampered with.
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05/08/17 6:31:59 PM
#347:


We almost went the whole case without an uncalled for, unfunny boob joke. There's always the next case!
- Something about the actress who portrayed Rayfa on Plumed Punisher that resulted in a weird exchange between Rayfa and Ga'ran

I am really hoping that Nayna isn't Amara or someone else dressed up to look like an old person. Unfortunately, the red flag that maybe never fails (incomplete information on the profile tab in the court record) is present. Also, I believe that the last three Ace Attorney games that I've played have had someone change their appearance and assume a new identity (Dual Destinies, Investigations, Apollo Justice). Along with their issues with concise and factual ME/investigative reports and passed out characters, they seem to have creative issues when it comes to the crimes.

It is looking more likely with every minute that Nayna/”Nayna” killed Inga. If that does end up being the case, I wonder if it was at the behest of Ga'ran. I would still have no idea how they left the tomb. The defense is certainly looking at Nayna anyway. This seems to be relatively early in the trial, so I'm not sure that's a good sign.

So it was Nayna/”Nayna” who presumably went through Inga's safe, but the more that I think about it, it likely isn't the source of Inga's shriek. He would have likely taken the fake note out if he noticed it. Perhaps it was his back since he takes painkiller shots. This narrative Apollo and Phoenix are chasing keeps getting weirder and not something that I can get behind at all. Nayna/”Nayna” attacked Inga in his quarters? Is that really what you guys think? There was no opportunity to clean up any signs of a struggle!

I personally have no experience with prescription painkillers or being stabbed in the back with a knife, but is it really plausible that someone can be stabbed in the back unknowingly while recently administering a painkiller shot? I am really hoping that we get off this crazy train theory soon.
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05/08/17 6:32:49 PM
#348:


I wonder if we are going to have Rayfa perform a séance on Nayna to know if she is in fact dead (and if we actually know her true name/face). I was half right, we are doing the séance but on Inga now.

Well there were some very interesting tidbits from that séance:
- We hear a man's voice, but there was a cell phone in Inga's left hand when he fell to the ground, so it might have come from that.
- A faceless person that looks like Dhurke. Inga likely has that one condition where he can't recognize faces. That could explain his notebook describing people.
- He would have recognized a gunshot, so that explosion came from elsewhere. There weren't signs of a controlled explosion in the tomb, so it probably came from the cell phone
- This is the first séance where someone made a noise after someone died. Laughter though seems a bit weird unless the killer took sick pleasure in this. It more likely came from the cell phone.

1 for 1. The man's voice came from the cell phone. Uh, was the lion's roar added after the revision? I didn't remember it the first time. It was clearly out of place, and the only thing that comes to mind is the bird from the bazaar. The explosion came from Datz' firecrackers. Rayfa acts so surprised when she literally had one explode in front of her yesterday. And the laughter came from Datz. We have exhausted nearly all of my takeaways, and we've gone nowhere.

I thought the footsteps heard after Inga hit the ground might have been it, but I didn't see an applicable statement to target. Also, since there was no mention of gunfire, various things around the room don't make sense, but they weren't included in the séance.
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05/08/17 6:33:21 PM
#349:


I feel dumb for taking too long to realize the difference between the murder and when the firecracker set off. If it really occurred a full hour before originally thought, Ga'ran might be back on the suspect list. This does muddle things. Dhurke couldn't be the one from the séance, so this was someone who must have known Inga's condition. Then someone dressed like Inga to fool Rayfa. This also had to be premeditated with all contingency factors thought out.

Uh oh, Ga'ran seems genuinely surprised by the revelation of when Inga died. She also reveals that Inga did have prosopagnosia (the aforementioned face recoginition condition).

Oh, someone channeled Inga. I truly believe that Ga'ran was unable to do that, but that just leaves who, Maya and Nayna? Maya could have been coerced I guess, but that's a longshot. Since I think Nayna is Amara, and it would make more sense now that the person known as Nayna likely did the spirit channeling, is Nayna resentful toward Inga? If she is Amara, I can't see how that makes sense since she's been allowed to go as she pleases. If she's not Amara, well, we know next to nothing about Nayna anyway so I guess we have nothing to go off of.

Now they believe that Inga's scream came from Inga regaining consciousness from being channeled. I don't know how much I can buy that he did not realize that he died unless he was momentarily convinced everything he just experienced was a nightmare. I wonder if the person known as Nayna was lying on Inga's bed to steer Inga to that conclusion. I also forget if the person channeling can end a channeling at will because if not, things would get complicated fast once Inga reached the tomb.

Maya is being prepped for the witness stand and Dhurke's whereabouts are unknown. Fantastic.
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05/08/17 6:34:06 PM
#350:


Inga was nice to Maya. Ga'ran says that he was easy to push around. Even if they ended up teaming up for the arson and killing Jove, she would have been the mastermind.

And we answer my question about ending a channeling. A seasoned medium can do so at will, which I assume both potential channelers are. Apollo's lives are on the line, and we are just going to not press Maya when she's obviously holding out on us? Fuck that, spill the beans girl!

Oh, so the soot-covered button was a failure from the killer to burn up all evidence that Inga was channeled. I'm not sure I understand how the other three turned to ash while this one is practically pristine.

Nayna is alive and well. I guess we will learn momentarily if Nayna is Amara, she is the one who killed Inga, and if she acted alone. Apollo is starting to suggest that Nayna is Amara...and she is! Let me get this straight though, Amara is walking freely and doesn't have amnesia or anything like that. She has NO resentment toward losing the throne and having her son and husband be punished and tormented for 23 years? Amara really seems to believe that Dhurke tried to kill her. I don't know, did you try asking him? You also ran away with him, so you obviously trust him. I don't understand how you could just turn your back on the loves of your life without any hard proof.

The judge just reminded me that the people spent $800 million USD on that useless tomb. That is the real reason why they should revolt and end the royal family's reign.
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