Board 8 > Chrono Trigger Mafia Topic 7: You're a marshmallow, Glenn... [mafia]

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Great Warriors

1. Chaeix
2. Corrik
3. bng_mmmk (replaced Dark_Spiral)
4. dowolf
5. eaedwards6400
6. IfGodCouldDie
7. masterplum
8. Oddity
9. pjbasis
10. profDEADPOOL
11. red13n
12. Se7enthrust


Marshmallows

[LD1] KanzarisKelshen - Schala, Town Roleblocker
[KN1] My Immortal - Magus, Town Miller Doctor
[KN1] htaeD - Crono, Town Vanilla
[LD2] UltimaterializerX - Queen Zeal, Mafia Roleblocker
[KN2] ChaosTonyV4 - Gaspar, Town Cop
[KN2] Shaduln - Frog, Town Tracker
[KN2] HanOfTheNekos - Masa & Mune, Town 1-Use Doublevoter

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Day ends at 10 PM EDT on March 22, 2017, or when a majority is reached

Archive:

http://zyxyzarchive.x10host.com/index_CTmafia.html

Day 1 votals:

[8] Kanz - (plum), (JC), (Ulti), Oddity, Tony, (JC), plum, Ulti, IGCD, puns, Se7en, JC
[5] Ulti - (Kanz), (IGCD), (Kanz), (prof), Kanz, prof, Shad, MI, (Se7en), Corrik
[1] eaed - (Han), (MI), (dowolf), (MI), Han
[1] red - (Puns), (Se7en), Death
[1] pj - (IGCD), (Shad), (Kan), eaed
[1] Se7en - (prof), dowolf
[1] prof - (Ulti), (Tony), (Corrik), pj, (Ulti)
[1] Tony - (Shad), (Oddity), (MI), (Kanz), red, (Corrik), (pj), (Prof), (Kan), (Han), (Dowolf)
[0] IGCD - (Puns
[0] Corrik - (eaed)
[0] Han - (Ulti), (eaed)
[0] Shad - (Tony)
[0] JC - (dowolf), (Corrik), (pj), (Oddity), (Ulti), (MI), (Corrik), (MI), (pj), (death), (plum), (tony), (prof), (Dowolf)
[0] Death - (Ulti), (Kan)
[0] dowolf - (plum), (JC), (Tony)
[0] plum - (dowolf)
[0] MI - (Puns)
[0] Oddity - (Tony), (prof)

Day 2 votals:

[8] Ulti - prof, (red), pj, se7en, Corrik, (IGCD), JC, dowolf, Tony, puns
[1] IGCD - (JC), (puns), Ulti
[2] pj - plum, eaed
[1] plum - Shad
[0] Se7en - (dowolf)
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nice, marshmallows
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[4] Se7en - dowolf, prof, eaed, red
[2] IGCD - (plum), (puns), (JC), Se7en, pj
[2] Corrik - Oddity, puns
[1] JC - (Corrik), plum
[1] plum - (JC), Corrik
[0] Oddity - (Corrik)

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Day ends at 10 PM EDT on March 22, 2017, or when a majority is reached.

An hour and a half remains

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tbqh, you guys should vote corrik, he's not scum hunting at all. Well, we approach another end of day so I guess it's time to do another quick and dirty list:

1. Chaeix - Justin was yelling about his beef with dowolf day 1. Frustrated that he couldn't get his point across reads as town. I don't think he's good enough as scum to do that.
2. Corrik - He isn't hunting scum as far as I can tell, or playing to win for that matter. He's voting plum because ??? Scum
3. bng_mmmk (replaced Dark_Spiral) - Unsure.... I like that he's on board my lynch with Corrik, but then he said something to the effect of he was feeling better about Corrik and then didn't unvote. Not quite sure what to think about that.
4. dowolf - I currently think he seems townish, however, dowolf is a very good player. I wouldn't be surprised if he's putting one over on me, especially if corrik flips scum (because he's been sandbagging that lynch).
5. eaedwards6400 - he's really bad town. I'm not wrong.
6. IfGodCouldDie - Not as confident as I once was, but I still think he's town. I know plum said that atma or whatever did some big podcast effort in a previous mafia as scum, but... I just still think he IGCD wouldn't go to that much effort as scum.
7. masterplum - tbqh I have trouble with him. ed's bad town for a reason, very easy to read ed scum. With my IGCD opinion on the rocks I keep going back and forth. In my first game of mafia I let fett, my scumspect, convince me to lynch town. I kind of feel like plum is doing that to me.
8. Oddity - obvtown lol
9. pjbasis - Thinking scum. He feels corrik is being weird but still trusts in corrik like he's the messiah.
10. profDEADPOOL - pretty neutral tbqh. Very easily could be scum.
11. red13n - leaning town just based off his scumhunting.
12. Se7enthrust - he's really bad. Just... wow man. Not really sure how to read it.
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Corrik is being way too weird to be scum imho
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corrik/pj/plum scumteam kind of fits the facts.
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dowolf ever come back? Hello?
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Can you all stop voting se7en who is town
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Corrik, why are I and plum scum?
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Oddity posted...

Corrik, why are I and plum scum?

This has been explained already.
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Ok... so plum is scum because I gave him a mention without voting and then voting you. I'm scum because ... ??? I fell for your weird gambit day 1? Even though I no longer think jc is on the scum team (I'll concede he could be sk).
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https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/75132053/875660980

Too lazy to reformat the quotes
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##Unvote
##Vote: JC

Sketchy vote pattern to start day. Overly defensive when vote pattern was called into question. Showed up to defend himself just now as day winds down but isn't talking any more and he isn't voting.

I don't understand Corrik at all but he's probably better to have around of the two.
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Oh for the love of
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Let me explain,

If you remove all the annoyances of Corrik (his politics and whatnot) at his core he shares similar qualities to me.

One of the big ones I am seeing here is that Corrik doesn't give a crap outside of his goal. What this means is that Corrik only cares about being right. Everything else is meaningless.

Now in this context. Corrik has gone from a 0% of being lynched to a substantial chance because he started talking about all sorts of questionable things. Random votes on me without explanation. Accusations of JC being SK, all sorts of huge targets he is painting on himself.

Corrik doesn't care. Town Corrik has found scum and if other people don't follow them it is there problem. I understand this mindset because for the longest time I had it. If I found scum and nobody listened it was their problem not mine.

Scum Corriks goal is survival. Only way he possibly paints targets on himself is a gambit to save 7, but I don't see Corrik risking his life to save 7. Scum Corrik knows he is still in decent shape. Why suicide for a lackluster teammate?

Scum Corrik makes no sense
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Oddity posted...

Ok... so plum is scum because I gave him a mention without voting and then voting you. I'm scum because ... ??? I fell for your weird gambit day 1? Even though I no longer think jc is on the scum team (I'll concede he could be sk).

I mean, if you were town i would probably talk to you like your a goomba and explain it to you, but I really do not care to waste my time explaining to scum why they are scum for no reason.
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Corrik posted...

Oddity posted...

Ok... so plum is scum because I gave him a mention without voting and then voting you. I'm scum because ... ??? I fell for your weird gambit day 1? Even though I no longer think jc is on the scum team (I'll concede he could be sk).

I mean, if you were town i would probably talk to you like your a goomba and explain it to you, but I really do not care to waste my time explaining to scum why they are scum for no reason.

Points directly to my post above.
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masterplum posted...

Let me explain,

If you remove all the annoyances of Corrik (his politics and whatnot) at his core he shares similar qualities to me.

One of the big ones I am seeing here is that Corrik doesn't give a crap outside of his goal. What this means is that Corrik only cares about being right. Everything else is meaningless.

Now in this context. Corrik has gone from a 0% of being lynched to a substantial chance because he started talking about all sorts of questionable things. Random votes on me without explanation. Accusations of JC being SK, all sorts of huge targets he is painting on himself.

Corrik doesn't care. Town Corrik has found scum and if other people don't follow them it is there problem. I understand this mindset because for the longest time I had it. If I found scum and nobody listened it was their problem not mine.

Scum Corriks goal is survival. Only way he possibly paints targets on himself is a gambit to save 7, but I don't see Corrik risking his life to save 7. Scum Corrik knows he is still in decent shape. Why suicide for a lackluster teammate?

Scum Corrik makes no sense

Probably the best post of the game and unfortunately scum made it
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Chaeix posted...

masterplum posted...

And another thing

What exactly were the votals when JC voted?

JC put him to 3. Wasn't that putting him in the lead? Why is he reason for getting off that he was in the lead?

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And why would Town care if a person they suspect was in the lead? The only time I have worried about who was currently leading a day in I was scum.

##unvote
##vote:Jc

Let's go puns. We've got scum. Vroom vroom.

Listen man if you see 2 people voting the same way as you and you think they're scum, that makes you really question your judgment. And being in the lead is a symbol of 'most desired option' and even if I'm wrong about you and Se7en, that means there's even more risk cause scum could jump on to make it look like that's the only option for a lynch. I'm not letting us make a stupid premature mistake. As well, I already talked about how Se7en potentially flipping scum makes IGCD look town. This also applies to puns' question about comparing IGCD and Se7en.

And more specifically puns to your question, neither of them has really done anything more than the other. Right now I'm trying to decide whether Se7en's big writeup where he took me out of context is earnest or not. That was where I f***ed up on my Kanz read, I focused on the wrong things, and I don't want to do the same here.

Corrik posted...

JC will you shoot Oddity tonight? You need to keep town and scum numbers close so we can't lynch you. And these dumbos aren't gonna lynch scum.

Not SK brah

in response to the part I bolded:


But...if you are wrong about plum/se7en, doesn't that mean the IGCD lynch is a scum lynch in your eyes? Thus not a mistake at all?
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plum's explanation sounds like Corrik to a tee. Honestly I fail to ever come away from a game feeling like I've improved at reading him.
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Counting Se7en's post in the other topic which is an unvote, this SHOULD be it

[4] Se7en - dowolf, prof, eaed, red
[2] JC - (Corrik), plum, puns
[1] IGCD - (plum), (puns), (JC), (Se7en), pj
[1] Corrik - Oddity, (puns)
[1] plum - (JC), Corrik
[0] Oddity - (Corrik)

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Day ends at 10 PM EDT on March 22, 2017, or when a majority is reached.

A little under an hour remains
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bng_mmmk posted...

Chaeix posted...

masterplum posted...

And another thing

What exactly were the votals when JC voted?

JC put him to 3. Wasn't that putting him in the lead? Why is he reason for getting off that he was in the lead?

...

And why would Town care if a person they suspect was in the lead? The only time I have worried about who was currently leading a day in I was scum.

##unvote
##vote:Jc

Let's go puns. We've got scum. Vroom vroom.

Listen man if you see 2 people voting the same way as you and you think they're scum, that makes you really question your judgment. And being in the lead is a symbol of 'most desired option' and even if I'm wrong about you and Se7en, that means there's even more risk cause scum could jump on to make it look like that's the only option for a lynch. I'm not letting us make a stupid premature mistake. As well, I already talked about how Se7en potentially flipping scum makes IGCD look town. This also applies to puns' question about comparing IGCD and Se7en.

And more specifically puns to your question, neither of them has really done anything more than the other. Right now I'm trying to decide whether Se7en's big writeup where he took me out of context is earnest or not. That was where I f***ed up on my Kanz read, I focused on the wrong things, and I don't want to do the same here.

Corrik posted...

JC will you shoot Oddity tonight? You need to keep town and scum numbers close so we can't lynch you. And these dumbos aren't gonna lynch scum.

Not SK brah

in response to the part I bolded:


But...if you are wrong about plum/se7en, doesn't that mean the IGCD lynch is a scum lynch in your eyes? Thus not a mistake at all?

Yes, which is why this is such a hard choice to make because I have basically gotten myself into a coin toss situation and I don't know what to do. I said at the start I'm a D- player and I wasn't overstating. The only thing that will help is if I have more information on any of the 3 which is really hard to get right now because IGCD and Se7en are claimed vanillas. Actually, I guess that means the logical thing here is:

##vote:plum

I need plum to claim. If you guys don't want him to that's your prerogative.
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Really the only one left on God?

Why did you unvote that plum?
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Yah, still feeling the corrik lynch. Seven could be scum, but really corrik is more likely. plum is covering for him.
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We should still lynch Se7en
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Oddity posted...

11. red13n - leaning town just based off his scumhunting.
12. Se7enthrust - he's really bad. Just... wow man. Not really sure how to read it.

VeryInsane posted...

[4] Se7en - dowolf, prof, eaed, red

Oddity can you comment on the above please.
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pjbasis posted...

Really the only one left on God?

Why did you unvote that plum?

I didn't think it had the votes to happen.

I would rather lynch my second choice over failing to lynch my first.
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Oddity posted...

Yah, still feeling the corrik lynch. Seven could be scum, but really corrik is more likely. plum is covering for him.

If you think plum is scumbuddies with Corrik, help pressure plum
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Oddity posted...

Yah, still feeling the corrik lynch. Seven could be scum, but really corrik is more likely. plum is covering for him.

What did I say that you disagree with? You can't say I'm covering him without disagreeing with my argument.
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profDEADPOOL posted...

We should still lynch Se7en

Why
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red is getting angry with inactives. He himself stated he was not liking corrik and one other person but that he wants to cut some deadwood. Maybe it was plum? Honestly, thinking of voting plum atm.

Ironically, I was just looking at the game and thinking what this game would look like if I misread red. I think dowolf might be more likely scum then? While I don't agree with his vote, I have liked his reasoning. And who knows, maybe seven is scum.
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Chaeix posted...

Oddity posted...

Yah, still feeling the corrik lynch. Seven could be scum, but really corrik is more likely. plum is covering for him.

If you think plum is scumbuddies with Corrik, help pressure plum

What do you mean pressure? Do you want me to die or do you want me to claim?
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The problem plum, is that I am assuming you're going off past experience with corrik. I have none, so I can't rely on you as a credible witness.
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##Unvote
##Vote: plum

best lynch of the possibles atm.
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Oddity posted...

The problem plum, is that I am assuming you're going off past experience with corrik. I have none, so I can't rely on you as a credible witness.

Do you disagree that if Corriks goal is to not be lynched, he is doing a horrible job at it?
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masterplum posted...

Chaeix posted...

Oddity posted...

Yah, still feeling the corrik lynch. Seven could be scum, but really corrik is more likely. plum is covering for him.

If you think plum is scumbuddies with Corrik, help pressure plum

What do you mean pressure? Do you want me to die or do you want me to claim?

I want you to claim, I want to be able to figure out this stupid trio of you/se7en/igcd since I think you're all scum but can't be right about that considering the votes (unless I am right somehow, but improbable)
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no, I'm the only one who can seem to get my head around lynching corrik. He's doing a great job of not being lynched. Based off his reputation mostly.
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Oddity posted...

no, I'm the only one who can seem to get my head around lynching corrik. He's doing a great job of not being lynched. Based off his reputation mostly.

I just don't know how to read Corrik, I don't know where to start.
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masterplum posted...

profDEADPOOL posted...

We should still lynch Se7en

Why

https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/75132053/875560174
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Also because you want to lynch him because....???

Something about vague inactivity and because he's not being forthright with his explanations?
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His arguments suck. The inactivity was one thing. But then he claimed that his reasoning on day 1 for JC was all lies. JC had a pretty good train going on him day 1. It didn't work out. Then he tells me today that he was doing some sort of stupid weird gambit to generate discussion. If his reasoning on JC was complete bulls*** then why did he vote JC to start day? He claims that JC is SK but based on what? All you can really say is that JC is not on scumteam if you believe him to be town.
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masterplum posted...

pjbasis posted...

Really the only one left on God?

Why did you unvote that plum?

I didn't think it had the votes to happen.

I would rather lynch my second choice over failing to lynch my first.

What do you think of the actual lynch leader
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Grrr...

Sometimes I think i should play a game where I refuse to ever speak other than voting. It would make less people vote me because they have a hard on for lynching people who make arguments they can't understand.

Belthasar, bulletproof.

My knowledge stays alive forever yada yada
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the f*** why did you claim
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pjbasis posted...

the f*** why did you claim

Because I'm about to take the lead and I am not voting seven to save myself.

F that
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I don't like Oddity switching from voting Corrik to voting Corrik's lynch option in the last hour.
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##Unvote

Trying to decide if I believe that.
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as scum you bus, it happens.
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BP fits the set up. As scum or town. I believe the claim. Not the alignment.
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hey plum are you the SK
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