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HypnoCoosh
04/03/17 11:52:00 AM
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pinky0926 posted...
HypnoCoosh up to his usual low effort s***posting I see


No I actually have no remorse for the guy murdered. Stay the fuck out of other peoples homes.

Maybe if CE actually had people in their lives they needed to look over and protect they would understand this responsibility. But alas they are all basement dwellers in their mommy's house.
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Alucard188
04/03/17 11:53:08 AM
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mattnd2007 posted...
Getting the gun was a good idea, gives him control of the situation. Blasting the dude was not. Should have just held him at gunpoint and called the cops.


This. Shooting a home invader when he's not threatening you is straight up manslaughter. About the only thing he'll point at you is a loofah or his winky.
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Anarchy_Juiblex
04/03/17 11:53:36 AM
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Mernardi posted...
Jfc so many sociopaths in this topic.


No, it's not sociopathy. It's informed consent, it's the social contract. If you break into someone's fucking home, they get to shoot you. Everyone knows the risk. Fucking deal with it. STOP FUCKING DEFENDING THESE FUCKING DEGENERATES. Society is better off EVERY time one of these people dies.
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HypnoCoosh
04/03/17 11:54:26 AM
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Mernardi posted...
Jfc so many sociopaths in this topic.


No, it's not sociopathy. It's informed consent, it's the social contract. If you break into someone's fucking home, they get to shoot you. Everyone knows the risk. Fucking deal with it. STOP FUCKING DEFENDING THESE FUCKING DEGENERATES. Society is better off EVERY time one of these people dies.


No sense arguing with them. Just agree to disagree. But know you're not alone with your thought process.
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P01ntyDmonspank
04/03/17 11:54:31 AM
#55:


HypnoCoosh posted...
pinky0926 posted...
HypnoCoosh up to his usual low effort s***posting I see


No I actually have no remorse for the guy murdered. Stay the fuck out of other peoples homes.

Maybe if CE actually had people in their lives they needed to look over and protect they would understand this responsibility. But alas they are all basement dwellers in their mommy's house.

How are you going to be able to look out for and protect people in your life from your jail cell after you murdered someone?
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davyheinz
04/03/17 11:54:36 AM
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pinky0926 posted...

HypnoCoosh up to his usual low effort shitposting I see

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eston
04/03/17 11:55:00 AM
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He was not protecting anyone in this situation. The only person who was in danger was the guy in the shower.
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HypnoCoosh
04/03/17 11:55:51 AM
#58:


P01ntyDmonspank posted...
HypnoCoosh posted...
pinky0926 posted...
HypnoCoosh up to his usual low effort s***posting I see


No I actually have no remorse for the guy murdered. Stay the fuck out of other peoples homes.

Maybe if CE actually had people in their lives they needed to look over and protect they would understand this responsibility. But alas they are all basement dwellers in their mommy's house.

How are you going to be able to look out for and protect people in your life from your jail cell after you murdered someone?


Get a good lawyer and you're fine.

Also be smart about it.
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Mernardi
04/03/17 11:55:58 AM
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Mernardi posted...
Jfc so many sociopaths in this topic.


No, it's not sociopathy. It's informed consent, it's the social contract. If you break into someone's fucking home, they get to shoot you. Everyone knows the risk. Fucking deal with it. STOP FUCKING DEFENDING THESE FUCKING DEGENERATES. Society is better off EVERY time one of these people dies.

No one is defending the guy. What's actually going on is people are condemning the guy who straight up murdered a person.

Too many vigilante wannabes running around.
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HypnoCoosh
04/03/17 11:56:35 AM
#60:


eston posted...
He was not protecting anyone in this situation. The only person who was in danger was the guy in the shower.


Anytime someone breaks into your home you're in danger.
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HypnoCoosh
04/03/17 11:57:03 AM
#61:


Mernardi posted...
Too many socialist degenerates running around.

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pinky0926
04/03/17 11:57:14 AM
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HypnoCoosh posted...
pinky0926 posted...
HypnoCoosh up to his usual low effort s***posting I see


No I actually have no remorse for the guy murdered. Stay the fuck out of other peoples homes.

Maybe if CE actually had people in their lives they needed to look over and protect they would understand this responsibility. But alas they are all basement dwellers in their mommy's house.


"There's no way I could be wrong about this or that other people may have different opinions due to any logical reason, clearly everyone is a basement dweller except me".

As someone who's had his house broken into almost half a dozen times (3 of those in Africa where people die all the time over stuff like this), I'm extra happy to say that it's fucking stupid to walk back into the house with the intruder inside to go and blow his brains out. If protecting your safety was your chief concern then this is exactly what you don't do.
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eston
04/03/17 11:57:27 AM
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Damn_Underscore
04/03/17 11:57:30 AM
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Anyone saying "oh, he should have done this..." doesn't know what they are talking about

Someone invading your home is scary as ****, you aren't going to be thinking straight. Especially when you're in the shower when it happens.
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KarmaMuffin
04/03/17 11:57:52 AM
#65:


Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
If you break into someone's fucking home, they get to shoot you.

Apparently not, since he's been arrested.
The tl;dr of it is that he had a lot of time to fix the solution but he jumped to shooting the intruder, that's not cool.


HypnoCoosh posted...
Anytime someone breaks into your home you're in danger.

Can't be that much considering he had time to leave, go to his other home, find his gun, and come back to shoot him.
At some point in the journey he had time to call 911 and then he wouldn't have ruined two lives.
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P01ntyDmonspank
04/03/17 11:58:10 AM
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HypnoCoosh posted...
Get a good lawyer and you're fine.

Are you pretending to be rich enough for this is even to be a point worthy of discussing?
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pinky0926
04/03/17 11:58:13 AM
#67:


HypnoCoosh posted...
eston posted...
He was not protecting anyone in this situation. The only person who was in danger was the guy in the shower.


Anytime someone breaks into your home you're in danger.


Lol dude, did you read the article at all? He left the house to go get a gun and returned to the house with the intruder inside to kill him. He put himself back in danger just to kill the guy. Safety was not his intention.
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eston
04/03/17 11:59:02 AM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
Anyone saying "oh, he should have done this..." doesn't know what they are talking about

Someone invading your home is scary as ****, you aren't going to be thinking straight. Especially when you're in the shower when it happens.

Try actually reading the story
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Webmaster4531
04/03/17 11:59:32 AM
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Hypno is trolling.
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Mystere
04/03/17 12:00:24 PM
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How many of you have entered your homes and found someone you didn't know? I'd imagine it would take a while to feel secure again.

Getting shot is actually the first thing that comes to mind when I envision someone finding me inside their home and not knowing me. Even if I didn't have morals, I still wouldn't do break ins because fuck that. I wanna live.
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P01ntyDmonspank
04/03/17 12:00:32 PM
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Webmaster4531 posted...
Hypno is trolling.

Obviously.
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Anarchy_Juiblex
04/03/17 12:00:33 PM
#74:


eston posted...
The only person who was in danger was the guy in the shower.


Not having actually attacked him =/= not a threat/dangerous.
You realize people kill other people with their bare hands every day, yes?


What is his daughter or son walked in instead of himself?

"Oh no DANGER here, just a crazy person that decided to physically break into own home and strip naked. Go ahead and go pee Billy but make sure to let it mellow, don't want to burn the lunatic in the shower."
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The Great Muta 22
04/03/17 12:00:37 PM
#76:


Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
No, it's not sociopathy. It's informed consent, it's the social contract. If you break into someone's fucking home, they get to shoot you. Everyone knows the risk. Fucking deal with it. STOP FUCKING DEFENDING THESE FUCKING DEGENERATES. Society is better off EVERY time one of these people dies.


Wrong. Thank god you have no authority in life
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TheVipaGTS
04/03/17 12:01:39 PM
#77:


Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
eston posted...
The only person who was in danger was the guy in the shower.


Not having actually attacked him =/= not a threat/dangerous.
You realize people kill other people with their bare hands every day, yes?


What is his daughter or son walked in instead of himself?

"Oh no DANGER here, just a crazy person that decided to physically break into own home and strip naked. Go ahead and go pee Billy but make sure to let it mellow, don't want to burn the lunatic in the shower."

Right we get that. So call the cops. He had plenty of time to call the cops, remove himself and secure his son or daughter if he had any. But no he left, came back and shot him.
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CapnMuffin
04/03/17 12:01:49 PM
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Yeah I think people immediately imagine waking up and finding this guy in your house with your kids and puppy sleeping down the hall. Read the article. Also not all the facts have been released yet.
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eston
04/03/17 12:02:27 PM
#80:


Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
eston posted...
The only person who was in danger was the guy in the shower.


Not having actually attacked him =/= not a threat/dangerous.
You realize people kill other people with their bare hands every day, yes?


What is his daughter or son walked in instead of himself?

"Oh no DANGER here, just a crazy person that decided to physically break into own home and strip naked. Go ahead and go pee Billy but make sure to let it mellow, don't want to burn the lunatic in the shower."

The owner literally left and went home to get his gun, then came back and shot the guy. There is no planet on which that is considered self defense
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Mystere
04/03/17 12:02:47 PM
#81:


Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
eston posted...
The only person who was in danger was the guy in the shower.


Not having actually attacked him =/= not a threat/dangerous.
You realize people kill other people with their bare hands every day, yes?


What is his daughter or son walked in instead of himself?

"Oh no DANGER here, just a crazy person that decided to physically break into own home and strip naked. Go ahead and go pee Billy but make sure to let it mellow, don't want to burn the lunatic in the shower."

LOL
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pinky0926
04/03/17 12:03:00 PM
#82:


The Great Muta 22 posted...
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
No, it's not sociopathy. It's informed consent, it's the social contract. If you break into someone's fucking home, they get to shoot you. Everyone knows the risk. Fucking deal with it. STOP FUCKING DEFENDING THESE FUCKING DEGENERATES. Society is better off EVERY time one of these people dies.


Wrong. Thank god you have no authority in life


I'd suggest judging by @Anarchy_Juiblex 's username that he has fairly...unconventional ideas on how society should operate.
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P01ntyDmonspank
04/03/17 12:03:08 PM
#83:


Conflict posted...
None of you defending this have explained how he couldn't have just held the guy at gunpoint. I certainly hope you don't think he'd still manage to be a threat to an armed person with his 'bare hands'.

Even that is irrelevant because he chose to re-enter the home instead of calling the authorities knowing a home invader was in there.
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ROBANN_88
04/03/17 12:03:57 PM
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seriously, though.
the intruder had plenty of time to run away when the home owner left.
i can't understand why he didn't run away. can anyone explain this to me?
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The Great Muta 22
04/03/17 12:05:02 PM
#86:


Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Not having actually attacked him =/= not a threat/dangerous.
You realize people kill other people with their bare hands every day, yes?


What is his daughter or son walked in instead of himself?

"Oh no DANGER here, just a crazy person that decided to physically break into own home and strip naked. Go ahead and go pee Billy but make sure to let it mellow, don't want to burn the lunatic in the shower."


What is with you making up scenarios and events that didn't happen in order to mash your attempt at logic through? First you said the guy probably lunged at him, with no evidence of such. Then you said you have the right to shoot anyone who breaks into your home, which goes against the law in numerous areas and even those with Castle Doctrine have provisions in it. Now you're hypothesizing about children walking into a secondary home and using the restroom while this guy showers? Like, what?

Stick to reality please
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pinky0926
04/03/17 12:05:09 PM
#87:


ROBANN_88 posted...
seriously, though.
the intruder had plenty of time to run away when the home owner left.
i can't understand why he didn't run away. can anyone explain this to me?


Pure speculation, but if he was showering in someone else's house he could well have been a homeless man, and most homeless people have mental issues. So he probably wasn't all there.
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eston
04/03/17 12:05:37 PM
#88:


Mystere posted...
How many of you have entered your homes and found someone you didn't know? I'd imagine it would take a while to feel secure again.

Getting shot is actually the first thing that comes to mind when I envision someone finding me inside their home and not knowing me. Even if I didn't have morals, I still wouldn't do break ins because fuck that. I wanna live.

That's obviously a risk you take when you break into someplace, however the issue here is whether the homeowner was justified in killing him. Despite what a lot of CEmen seem to think, a person breaking into your home (or in this case, office) does not give you free reign to do whatever you want to them.
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Doom_Art
04/03/17 12:05:38 PM
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Other people ITT hit the nail on the head.

The man was in no serious immediate danger and showed the ability to easily remove himself from the situation without incident.

As someone else already said, he just wanted to feel like a big tough guy vigilante, so he went and shot a "bad guy" when he saw a chance for it.
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The Great Muta 22
04/03/17 12:06:35 PM
#90:


ROBANN_88 posted...
i can't understand why he didn't run away. can anyone explain this to me?


I think it's safe to assume anyone doing a B&E to shower isn't mentally sound, no?
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TommyG663513
04/03/17 12:07:31 PM
#91:


HypnoCoosh posted...
eston posted...
He was not protecting anyone in this situation. The only person who was in danger was the guy in the shower.


Anytime someone breaks into your home you're in danger.


No one thinks you are saying anything remotely intelligent.
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Mystere
04/03/17 12:07:42 PM
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Those saying to call the cops instead... Lol

"Don't shoot the guy! We have people that get paid to do that. Call them."
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Webmaster4531
04/03/17 12:09:46 PM
#93:


Mystere posted...
Those saying to call the cops instead... Lol

"Don't shoot the guy! We have people that get paid to do that. Call them."

Well if the cops shoot an intruder whose naked then they're the murderers.
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Mernardi
04/03/17 12:10:04 PM
#94:


Mystere posted...
Those saying to call the cops instead... Lol

"Don't shoot the guy! We have people that get paid to do that. Call them."

Who says the cops have to shoot him either?
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davyheinz
04/03/17 12:11:23 PM
#95:


The Great Muta 22 posted...
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Not having actually attacked him =/= not a threat/dangerous.
You realize people kill other people with their bare hands every day, yes?


What is his daughter or son walked in instead of himself?

"Oh no DANGER here, just a crazy person that decided to physically break into own home and strip naked. Go ahead and go pee Billy but make sure to let it mellow, don't want to burn the lunatic in the shower."


What is with you making up scenarios and events that didn't happen in order to mash your attempt at logic through? First you said the guy probably lunged at him, with no evidence of such. Then you said you have the right to shoot anyone who breaks into your home, which goes against the law in numerous areas and even those with Castle Doctrine have provisions in it. Now you're hypothesizing about children walking into a secondary home and using the restroom while this guy showers? Like, what?

Stick to reality please

This. Who honestly gives a shit about what Anarchy or Hypno say? It's all bullshit.
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Mystere
04/03/17 12:12:08 PM
#96:


Mernardi posted...
Mystere posted...
Those saying to call the cops instead... Lol

"Don't shoot the guy! We have people that get paid to do that. Call them."

Who says the cops have to shoot him either?

They don't have to. They get to. At least in today's society.
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HypnoCoosh
04/03/17 12:12:36 PM
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Ok so if an unborn fetus is no threat to the mother then it should not be aborted?
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The Great Muta 22
04/03/17 12:13:43 PM
#98:


Mystere posted...
"Don't shoot the guy! We have people that get paid to do that. Call them."


Right....that's how the law works...

Like people do realize you have to abide by the laws and regulations of your state, and just because you "feel" that it's bullshit doesn't make any difference in the eyes of the law. And the whole "leaving and going to a primary residence to get a gun and then returning to kill them" makes you the aggressor.

If you own multiple properties and you find a homeless man sleeping in one of them, you can tell them to leave. You can call the cops and have them arrested. But you can't straight kill them if they refuse.
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Mystere
04/03/17 12:14:03 PM
#99:


HypnoCoosh posted...
Ok so if an unborn fetus is no threat to the mother then it should not be aborted?

To 500?
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Doom_Art
04/03/17 12:14:07 PM
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Why is Hypno bringing up abortion?

He decided he can't defend Mr. Wannabe Vigilante so he's changing the argument?
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