Current Events > 'You have freedom of speech, but you are free to be punished for what you say'

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ChromaticAngel posted...

the government can't punish you. what other people do is not controlled by the constitution.

That.

It's not unconstitutional that someone can get punched in the mouth for saying Jews aren't people.
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byron posted...

So slander and libel should be legal, TC?

slander is practically legal at this point based on election campaigns.

You'll still get screwed hard for libel, though.
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Freedom of speech gives you the right to say horrible things and gives me the right to say your opinion is awful, and so are you for holding it.
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CowboyDan posted...

Yeah, the idea that freedom of speech gives you a right to be listened to is absurd.

The right to be listened to is necessary for freedom of speech to truly exist.

How many people do you know in real life share their political opinions in real life? You can't do that in most human societies without someone flat out hating you for not agreeing with them.
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Self-entitled Conservatives.

No. Being listened to is not a right. It is up to the individual whether or not he wants to listen to you. If he doesn't want to, tough.
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Fine

But if you don't listen to someone then you don't have the right to try to ruin his livelihood because you apparently disagree with what he said.
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Damn_Underscore posted...

But if you don't listen to someone then you don't have the right to try to ruin his livelihood because you apparently disagree with what he said.

Ruin his livelihood how?
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TC has no idea what freedom of speech means.
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Damn_Underscore posted...

But if you don't listen to someone then you don't have the right to try to ruin his livelihood because you apparently disagree with what he said.

How do you feel about "at will" employment?
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You guys know that the 1st amendment of the US Constitution isn't the definition of "free speech", right?
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