Poll of the Day > People are calling for more government regulation after this United fiasco?

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Troll_Police_ 04/10/17 5:59:58 PM #1:	Are they stupid? This situation proves exactly why that regulation isn't needed. United is already taking a massive PR hit and this is likely to cost them hundreds of thousands of dollars at minimum. united will be forced to change policies so that this does not happen again, and meanwhile other airlines will be offering whatever deals they can and have to in order to snake as many customers away from them as possible. bing bang boom, free market solves the problem on its own. capitalism always wins folks --- Is this going to be one of those times when you pretend not to have a plan until the last moment? And then turn out to really not have one? <cite>Troll_Police_ posted [p:876934439] in People are... [t:75222203]...</cite> <quote>Are they stupid? This situation proves exactly why that regulation isn't needed. United is already taking a massive PR hit and this is likely to cost them hundreds of thousands of dollars at minimum. united will be forced to change policies so that this does not happen again, and meanwhile other airlines will be offering whatever deals they can and have to in order to snake as many customers away from them as possible. bing bang boom, free market solves the problem on its own. capitalism always wins folks</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
berniepanders 04/10/17 6:01:29 PM #2:	this 100% if anything, this situation is the single best argument for minimizing or eliminating government regulation in the airline industry, because if an airline could actually fail, they either wouldn't do this kind of stuff or take a major revenue hit when they did <cite>berniepanders posted [p:876934539] in People are... [t:75222203]...</cite> <quote>this 100% if anything, this situation is the single best argument for minimizing or eliminating government regulation in the airline industry, because if an airline could actually fail, they either wouldn't do this kind of stuff or take a major revenue hit when they did</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269 04/10/17 6:02:13 PM #3:	Regulation would stop overbookings in the first place, streamline the system and make seat uptake smoother (so more mula per minute) --- RIP_Supa posted... I've seen some stuff <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted [p:876934579] in People are... [t:75222203]...</cite> <quote>Regulation would stop overbookings in the first place, streamline the system and make seat uptake smoother (so more mula per minute)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
berniepanders 04/10/17 6:04:01 PM #4:	a free-market approach would do those exact same things through consumer choice without further bloating government <cite>berniepanders posted [p:876934710] in People are... [t:75222203]...</cite> <quote>a free-market approach would do those exact same things through consumer choice without further bloating government</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Troll_Police_ 04/10/17 6:06:17 PM #5:	Kyuubi4269 posted... Regulation would stop overbookings in the first place, streamline the system and make seat uptake smoother (so more mula per minute) so 1. we can either let the government try to regulate retroactively (which they are all notoriously shitty at), still have the same issues arise, and spend taxpayer money to try to fix the problems or 2. we can let the free market self regulate, and correct the problem at the expense of the people/businesses responsible instead which one do you pick? --- Is this going to be one of those times when you pretend not to have a plan until the last moment? And then turn out to really not have one? <cite>Troll_Police_ posted [p:876934861] in People are... [t:75222203]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote>Regulation would stop overbookings in the first place, streamline the system and make seat uptake smoother (so more mula per minute)</quote> so 1. we can either let the government try to regulate retroactively (which they are all notoriously shitty at), still have the same issues arise, and spend taxpayer money to try to fix the problems or 2. we can let the free market self regulate, and correct the problem at the expense of the people/businesses responsible instead which one do you pick?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Troll_Police_ 04/10/17 6:07:14 PM #6:	berniepanders posted... a free-market approach would do those exact same things through consumer choice without further bloating government exactly. you either do it at the expense of the taxpayer through government regulation, or you do it at the expense of the offending business through the natural regulation of a free market. --- Is this going to be one of those times when you pretend not to have a plan until the last moment? And then turn out to really not have one? <cite>Troll_Police_ posted [p:876934911] in People are... [t:75222203]...</cite> <quote><cite>berniepanders posted...</cite> <quote>a free-market approach would do those exact same things through consumer choice without further bloating government</quote> exactly. you either do it at the expense of the taxpayer through government regulation, or you do it at the expense of the offending business through the natural regulation of a free market.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smarkil 04/10/17 6:09:37 PM #7:	What exactly would they be regulating? --- I find myself identifying strongly with Hitler - Blighboy <cite>Smarkil posted [p:876935061] in People are... [t:75222203]...</cite> <quote>What exactly would they be regulating?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Troll_Police_ 04/10/17 6:12:10 PM #8:	Smarkil posted... What exactly would they be regulating? likely it would be regulation involving the airlines rights to overbook flights to ensure that flights are always full. --- Is this going to be one of those times when you pretend not to have a plan until the last moment? And then turn out to really not have one? <cite>Troll_Police_ posted [p:876935224] in People are... [t:75222203]...</cite> <quote><cite>Smarkil posted...</cite> <quote>What exactly would they be regulating?</quote> likely it would be regulation involving the airlines rights to overbook flights to ensure that flights are always full.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smarkil 04/10/17 6:15:05 PM #9:	Troll_Police_ posted... Smarkil posted... What exactly would they be regulating? likely it would be regulation involving the airlines rights to overbook flights to ensure that flights are always full. With the end result being flights are leaving with empty seats. So we either have to force airlines to be altruistic and fuck their bottom lines or the government (my money) has to pay them to subsidize the lost revenue. Instead of just allowing them to do what they've been doing for however many years and letting them buy those seats back at a premium because one guy got smacked by an overzealous rent-a-cop. --- I find myself identifying strongly with Hitler - Blighboy <cite>Smarkil posted [p:876935408] in People are... [t:75222203]...</cite> <quote><cite>Troll_Police_ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Smarkil posted...</cite> <quote>What exactly would they be regulating?</quote> likely it would be regulation involving the airlines rights to overbook flights to ensure that flights are always full.</quote> With the end result being flights are leaving with empty seats. So we either have to force airlines to be altruistic and fuck their bottom lines or the government (my money) has to pay them to subsidize the lost revenue. Instead of just allowing them to do what they've been doing for however many years and letting them buy those seats back at a premium because one guy got smacked by an overzealous rent-a-cop.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
berniepanders 04/10/17 6:15:14 PM #10:	Troll_Police_ posted... Smarkil posted... What exactly would they be regulating? likely it would be regulation involving the airlines rights to overbook flights to ensure that flights are always full. which in itself would be a glaring example of federally-mandated inefficiency and even further argument against government intervention in a free economy but good luck explaining that to people who think more government is a panacea <cite>berniepanders posted [p:876935419] in People are... [t:75222203]...</cite> <quote><cite>Troll_Police_ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Smarkil posted...</cite> <quote>What exactly would they be regulating?</quote> likely it would be regulation involving the airlines rights to overbook flights to ensure that flights are always full.</quote> which in itself would be a glaring example of federally-mandated inefficiency and even further argument against government intervention in a free economy but good luck explaining that to people who think more government is a panacea</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Troll_Police_ 04/10/17 6:25:11 PM #11:	Smarkil posted... Troll_Police_ posted... Smarkil posted... What exactly would they be regulating? likely it would be regulation involving the airlines rights to overbook flights to ensure that flights are always full. With the end result being flights are leaving with empty seats. So we either have to force airlines to be altruistic and fuck their bottom lines or the government (my money) has to pay them to subsidize the lost revenue. Instead of just allowing them to do what they've been doing for however many years and letting them buy those seats back at a premium because one guy got smacked by an overzealous rent-a-cop. exactly. government regulation is black and white, and that is just plain stupid. there is a middle ground. for example, offer "overbook" tickets. if the flight is already full, and you try to book, you get guaranteed vouchers/hotels when they are unable to fly you, and you walk into the airport with the knowledge that you could be bumped. its not unexpected, and a tantrum of any sort would be completely unjustified. the airline has now solved the problem and covered their asses. i came up with that about 20 seconds after hearing this story. untied has plenty of people they can pay good money to come up with an even better idea. --- Is this going to be one of those times when you pretend not to have a plan until the last moment? And then turn out to really not have one? <cite>Troll_Police_ posted [p:876936022] in People are... [t:75222203]...</cite> <quote><cite>Smarkil posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Troll_Police_ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Smarkil posted...</cite> <quote>What exactly would they be regulating?</quote> likely it would be regulation involving the airlines rights to overbook flights to ensure that flights are always full.</quote> With the end result being flights are leaving with empty seats. So we either have to force airlines to be altruistic and fuck their bottom lines or the government (my money) has to pay them to subsidize the lost revenue. Instead of just allowing them to do what they've been doing for however many years and letting them buy those seats back at a premium because one guy got smacked by an overzealous rent-a-cop.</quote> exactly. government regulation is black and white, and that is just plain stupid. there is a middle ground. for example, offer "overbook" tickets. if the flight is already full, and you try to book, you get guaranteed vouchers/hotels when they are unable to fly you, and you walk into the airport with the knowledge that you could be bumped. its not unexpected, and a tantrum of any sort would be completely unjustified. the airline has now solved the problem and covered their asses. i came up with that about 20 seconds after hearing this story. untied has plenty of people they can pay good money to come up with an even better idea.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
acesxhigh 04/10/17 6:29:12 PM #12:	muh free market --- http://www.last.fm/user/pr0wnage420 <cite>acesxhigh posted [p:876936260] in People are... [t:75222203]...</cite> <quote>muh free market</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
berniepanders 04/10/17 6:30:09 PM #13:	muh no argument <cite>berniepanders posted [p:876936316] in People are... [t:75222203]...</cite> <quote>muh no argument</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RedPixel 04/10/17 6:36:06 PM #14:	I find it funny that the same snowflakes and buttercups who often whine and bitch about law enforcement using excessive force are the same groups of people who want to impose stricter forms of gun control. #MorePowerToThePeople #AmIRite <cite>RedPixel posted [p:876936654] in People are... [t:75222203]...</cite> <quote>I find it funny that the same snowflakes and buttercups who often whine and bitch about law enforcement using excessive force are the same groups of people who want to impose stricter forms of gun control. #MorePowerToThePeople #AmIRite</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Talon5967 04/10/17 7:24:29 PM #15:	Troll_Police_ posted... Smarkil posted... Troll_Police_ posted... Smarkil posted... What exactly would they be regulating? likely it would be regulation involving the airlines rights to overbook flights to ensure that flights are always full. With the end result being flights are leaving with empty seats. So we either have to force airlines to be altruistic and fuck their bottom lines or the government (my money) has to pay them to subsidize the lost revenue. Instead of just allowing them to do what they've been doing for however many years and letting them buy those seats back at a premium because one guy got smacked by an overzealous rent-a-cop. exactly. government regulation is black and white, and that is just plain stupid. there is a middle ground. for example, offer "overbook" tickets. if the flight is already full, and you try to book, you get guaranteed vouchers/hotels when they are unable to fly you, and you walk into the airport with the knowledge that you could be bumped. its not unexpected, and a tantrum of any sort would be completely unjustified. the airline has now solved the problem and covered their asses. i came up with that about 20 seconds after hearing this story. untied has plenty of people they can pay good money to come up with an even better idea. Something like that was already done. The guy dragged off the plane was one of four people a computer determined needed to give up their seats (I believe it was said the computer chose them at random). Each was offered $800 as compensation, and three of them accepted. The guy dragged off refused, saying he was a doctor and needed to get home because he had patients he needed to see. The officer that dragged him off has been placed on administrative leave, as airport authorities have stated he overstepped his bounds. --- There are 10 types of people in the world. Those that know binary, and those that don't. <cite>Talon5967 posted [p:876939517] in People are... [t:75222203]...</cite> <quote><cite>Troll_Police_ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Smarkil posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Troll_Police_ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Smarkil posted...</cite> <quote>What exactly would they be regulating?</quote> likely it would be regulation involving the airlines rights to overbook flights to ensure that flights are always full.</quote> With the end result being flights are leaving with empty seats. So we either have to force airlines to be altruistic and fuck their bottom lines or the government (my money) has to pay them to subsidize the lost revenue. Instead of just allowing them to do what they've been doing for however many years and letting them buy those seats back at a premium because one guy got smacked by an overzealous rent-a-cop.</quote> exactly. government regulation is black and white, and that is just plain stupid. there is a middle ground. for example, offer "overbook" tickets. if the flight is already full, and you try to book, you get guaranteed vouchers/hotels when they are unable to fly you, and you walk into the airport with the knowledge that you could be bumped. its not unexpected, and a tantrum of any sort would be completely unjustified. the airline has now solved the problem and covered their asses. i came up with that about 20 seconds after hearing this story. untied has plenty of people they can pay good money to come up with an even better idea.</quote> Something like that was already done. The guy dragged off the plane was one of four people a computer determined needed to give up their seats (I believe it was said the computer chose them at random). Each was offered $800 as compensation, and three of them accepted. The guy dragged off refused, saying he was a doctor and needed to get home because he had patients he needed to see. The officer that dragged him off has been placed on administrative leave, as airport authorities have stated he overstepped his bounds.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MacrossSpecial 04/10/17 7:39:02 PM #16:	Corporations are greedy pigs who don't police themselves but the people who would be regulating that industry are nowhere near experts on it and will muck it up. I think legislators for the most part realize this and that is why the status quo is maintained. People have to decide whether they want to let this stand so I agree with the capitalism solution, especially now that millions of people can organize boycotts from their bedroom. --- ...Dude, you're a ****ing douche. Get off my god damn internets. - RX7Infinitilll <cite>MacrossSpecial posted [p:876940386] in People are... [t:75222203]...</cite> <quote>Corporations are greedy pigs who don't police themselves but the people who would be regulating that industry are nowhere near experts on it and will muck it up. I think legislators for the most part realize this and that is why the status quo is maintained. People have to decide whether they want to let this stand so I agree with the capitalism solution, especially now that millions of people can organize boycotts from their bedroom.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TyVulpine 04/10/17 7:40:37 PM #17:	Deregulate? Yeah, deregulation is never a good thing. Just ask the housing industry how deregulating back in the early 2000's went... --- Fall down, go boom... Life is like a box of chocolates. Most of it is crap. <cite>TyVulpine posted [p:876940458] in People are... [t:75222203]...</cite> <quote>Deregulate? Yeah, deregulation is never a good thing. Just ask the housing industry how deregulating back in the early 2000's went...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
berniepanders 04/10/17 7:41:37 PM #18:	TyVulpine posted... Deregulate? Yeah, deregulation is never a good thing. Just ask the housing industry how deregulating back in the early 2000's went... yeah because housing and air travel are 1:1 analogous lol <cite>berniepanders posted [p:876940524] in People are... [t:75222203]...</cite> <quote><cite>TyVulpine posted...</cite> <quote>Deregulate? Yeah, deregulation is never a good thing. Just ask the housing industry how deregulating back in the early 2000's went...</quote> yeah because housing and air travel are 1:1 analogous lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TyVulpine 04/10/17 7:47:56 PM #19:	berniepanders posted... TyVulpine posted... Deregulate? Yeah, deregulation is never a good thing. Just ask the housing industry how deregulating back in the early 2000's went... yeah because housing and air travel are 1:1 analogous lol Well, okay let's deregulate the air industry. Don't require as much experienced pilots and/or training, don't require as much maintainence or repairs on the planes, etc. I'll leave the outcome to your imagination. --- Fall down, go boom... Life is like a box of chocolates. Most of it is crap. <cite>TyVulpine posted [p:876940882] in People are... [t:75222203]...</cite> <quote><cite>berniepanders posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TyVulpine posted...</cite> <quote>Deregulate? Yeah, deregulation is never a good thing. Just ask the housing industry how deregulating back in the early 2000's went...</quote> yeah because housing and air travel are 1:1 analogous lol</quote> Well, okay let's deregulate the air industry. Don't require as much experienced pilots and/or training, don't require as much maintainence or repairs on the planes, etc. I'll leave the outcome to your imagination.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
berniepanders 04/10/17 7:50:49 PM #20:	TyVulpine posted... berniepanders posted... TyVulpine posted... Deregulate? Yeah, deregulation is never a good thing. Just ask the housing industry how deregulating back in the early 2000's went... yeah because housing and air travel are 1:1 analogous lol Well, okay let's deregulate the air industry. Don't require as much experienced pilots and/or training, don't require as much maintainence or repairs on the planes, etc. I'll leave the outcome to your imagination. some airlines would fail utterly due to corner-cutting while others which maintain a high standard in all of those areas would rise to the top as consumers gravitate towards the optimal intersection of service quality and cost. not that hard to imagine, really. <cite>berniepanders posted [p:876941054] in People are... [t:75222203]...</cite> <quote><cite>TyVulpine posted...</cite> <quote><cite>berniepanders posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TyVulpine posted...</cite> <quote>Deregulate? Yeah, deregulation is never a good thing. Just ask the housing industry how deregulating back in the early 2000's went...</quote> yeah because housing and air travel are 1:1 analogous lol</quote> Well, okay let's deregulate the air industry. Don't require as much experienced pilots and/or training, don't require as much maintainence or repairs on the planes, etc. I'll leave the outcome to your imagination.</quote> some airlines would fail utterly due to corner-cutting while others which maintain a high standard in all of those areas would rise to the top as consumers gravitate towards the optimal intersection of service quality and cost. not that hard to imagine, really.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Erik_P 04/10/17 7:52:42 PM #21:	berniepanders posted... TyVulpine posted... berniepanders posted... TyVulpine posted... Deregulate? Yeah, deregulation is never a good thing. Just ask the housing industry how deregulating back in the early 2000's went... yeah because housing and air travel are 1:1 analogous lol Well, okay let's deregulate the air industry. Don't require as much experienced pilots and/or training, don't require as much maintainence or repairs on the planes, etc. I'll leave the outcome to your imagination. some airlines would fail utterly due to corner-cutting while others which maintain a high standard in all of those areas would rise to the top as consumers gravitate towards the optimal intersection of service quality and cost. not that hard to imagine, really. Oh Ziggi, why are you so clueless? They ALL would cut corners if they no longer had regulations. --- #welchingalldayerrday <cite>Erik_P posted [p:876941155] in People are... [t:75222203]...</cite> <quote><cite>berniepanders posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TyVulpine posted...</cite> <quote><cite>berniepanders posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TyVulpine posted...</cite> <quote>Deregulate? Yeah, deregulation is never a good thing. Just ask the housing industry how deregulating back in the early 2000's went...</quote> yeah because housing and air travel are 1:1 analogous lol</quote> Well, okay let's deregulate the air industry. Don't require as much experienced pilots and/or training, don't require as much maintainence or repairs on the planes, etc. I'll leave the outcome to your imagination.</quote> some airlines would fail utterly due to corner-cutting while others which maintain a high standard in all of those areas would rise to the top as consumers gravitate towards the optimal intersection of service quality and cost. not that hard to imagine, really.</quote> Oh Ziggi, why are you so clueless? They ALL would cut corners if they no longer had regulations.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
berniepanders 04/10/17 7:53:43 PM #22:	oh erik, why are you so dedicated to being wrong? <cite>berniepanders posted [p:876941206] in People are... [t:75222203]...</cite> <quote>oh erik, why are you so dedicated to being wrong?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Erik_P 04/10/17 7:55:34 PM #23:	berniepanders posted... oh erik, why are you so dedicated to being wrong? Says the guy who thinks airline companies would follow rules that don't exist if they got deregulated. Keep on dreaming Ziggi. --- #welchingalldayerrday <cite>Erik_P posted [p:876941329] in People are... [t:75222203]...</cite> <quote><cite>berniepanders posted...</cite> <quote>oh erik, why are you so dedicated to being wrong?</quote> Says the guy who thinks airline companies would follow rules that don't exist if they got deregulated. Keep on dreaming Ziggi.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
berniepanders 04/10/17 7:57:10 PM #24:	lol, plenty of industries maintain a high standard of service without the government having to tell them to keep pretending you know what you're talking about though hahahahahahaha <cite>berniepanders posted [p:876941424] in People are... [t:75222203]...</cite> <quote>lol, plenty of industries maintain a high standard of service without the government having to tell them to keep pretending you know what you're talking about though hahahahahahaha</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Erik_P 04/10/17 8:01:42 PM #25:	berniepanders posted... lol, plenty of industries maintain a high standard of service without the government having to tell them to keep pretending you know what you're talking about though hahahahahahaha Ok, so name one. --- #welchingalldayerrday <cite>Erik_P posted [p:876941695] in People are... [t:75222203]...</cite> <quote><cite>berniepanders posted...</cite> <quote>lol, plenty of industries maintain a high standard of service without the government having to tell them to keep pretending you know what you're talking about though hahahahahahaha</quote> Ok, so name one.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
berniepanders 04/10/17 8:05:52 PM #26:	playing stupid doesn't bolster your point. it just makes you look like what you're playing at lol <cite>berniepanders posted [p:876941964] in People are... [t:75222203]...</cite> <quote>playing stupid doesn't bolster your point. it just makes you look like what you're playing at lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Erik_P 04/10/17 8:07:33 PM #27:	berniepanders posted... playing stupid doesn't bolster your point. it just makes you look like what you're playing at lol Ok, so you can't back up your claim. Don't say shit if you can't or refuse to prove it. --- #welchingalldayerrday <cite>Erik_P posted [p:876942085] in People are... [t:75222203]...</cite> <quote><cite>berniepanders posted...</cite> <quote>playing stupid doesn't bolster your point. it just makes you look like what you're playing at lol</quote> Ok, so you can't back up your claim. Don't say shit if you can't or refuse to prove it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
berniepanders 04/10/17 8:12:04 PM #28:	my claim is backed up pretty soundly by simple observation of reality that's not one of your strong suits though so this is unsurprising lol <cite>berniepanders posted [p:876942401] in People are... [t:75222203]...</cite> <quote>my claim is backed up pretty soundly by simple observation of reality that's not one of your strong suits though so this is unsurprising lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Erik_P 04/10/17 8:16:32 PM #29:	berniepanders posted... my claim is backed up pretty soundly by simple observation of reality that's not one of your strong suits though so this is unsurprising lol If it's simple, provide an example. It isn't that hard. Why are you so afraid? --- #welchingalldayerrday <cite>Erik_P posted [p:876942695] in People are... [t:75222203]...</cite> <quote><cite>berniepanders posted...</cite> <quote>my claim is backed up pretty soundly by simple observation of reality that's not one of your strong suits though so this is unsurprising lol</quote> If it's simple, provide an example. It isn't that hard. Why are you so afraid?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
berniepanders 04/10/17 8:20:30 PM #30:	sorry, i don't indulge willful ignorance <cite>berniepanders posted [p:876942998] in People are... [t:75222203]...</cite> <quote>sorry, i don't indulge willful ignorance</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Erik_P 04/10/17 8:21:49 PM #31:	berniepanders posted... sorry, i don't indulge willful ignorance Wanting an example or proof is willful ignorance now eh? You can do better than that Ziggi. --- #welchingalldayerrday <cite>Erik_P posted [p:876943089] in People are... [t:75222203]...</cite> <quote><cite>berniepanders posted...</cite> <quote>sorry, i don't indulge willful ignorance</quote> Wanting an example or proof is willful ignorance now eh? You can do better than that Ziggi.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
berniepanders 04/10/17 8:23:58 PM #32:	yup, you're willfully pretending ignorance so you don't have to concede the point and admit you're wrong. i'm not gonna indulge that, sorry <cite>berniepanders posted [p:876943207] in People are... [t:75222203]...</cite> <quote>yup, you're willfully pretending ignorance so you don't have to concede the point and admit you're wrong. i'm not gonna indulge that, sorry</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Erik_P 04/10/17 8:27:55 PM #33:	berniepanders posted... yup, you're willfully pretending ignorance so you don't have to concede the point and admit you're wrong. i'm not gonna indulge that, sorry You won't indulge a simple question because you're full of shit and you know it. Which is why you got whiplash from the tailspin you did. --- #welchingalldayerrday <cite>Erik_P posted [p:876943470] in People are... [t:75222203]...</cite> <quote><cite>berniepanders posted...</cite> <quote>yup, you're willfully pretending ignorance so you don't have to concede the point and admit you're wrong. i'm not gonna indulge that, sorry</quote> You won't indulge a simple question because you're full of shit and you know it. Which is why you got whiplash from the tailspin you did.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
berniepanders 04/10/17 8:40:30 PM #34:	nah, i just don't indulge willful ignorance, sorry <cite>berniepanders posted [p:876944271] in People are... [t:75222203]...</cite> <quote>nah, i just don't indulge willful ignorance, sorry</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
adjl 04/10/17 8:59:04 PM #35:	berniepanders posted... some airlines would fail utterly due to corner-cutting while others which maintain a high standard in all of those areas would rise to the top as consumers gravitate towards the optimal intersection of service quality and cost. Do you think that happens now? Can you honestly say that the airlines that are cutting every corner they legally can are failing compared to airlines that are more focused on maintaining high standards of service quality? That passengers are getting the best air travel experience possible because the corner-cutting companies aren't able to dominate the industry? --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. <cite>adjl posted [p:876945487] in People are... [t:75222203]...</cite> <quote><cite>berniepanders posted...</cite> <quote>some airlines would fail utterly due to corner-cutting while others which maintain a high standard in all of those areas would rise to the top as consumers gravitate towards the optimal intersection of service quality and cost.</quote> Do you think that happens now? Can you honestly say that the airlines that are cutting every corner they legally can are failing compared to airlines that are more focused on maintaining high standards of service quality? That passengers are getting the best air travel experience possible because the corner-cutting companies aren't able to dominate the industry?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TyVulpine 04/10/17 9:00:18 PM #36:	grabs tub of popcorn and sits back --- Fall down, go boom... Life is like a box of chocolates. Most of it is crap. <cite>TyVulpine posted [p:876945583] in People are... [t:75222203]...</cite> <quote>grabs tub of popcorn and sits back</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
berniepanders 04/10/17 9:20:25 PM #37:	adjl posted... berniepanders posted... some airlines would fail utterly due to corner-cutting while others which maintain a high standard in all of those areas would rise to the top as consumers gravitate towards the optimal intersection of service quality and cost. Do you think that happens now? Can you honestly say that the airlines that are cutting every corner they legally can are failing compared to airlines that are more focused on maintaining high standards of service quality? That passengers are getting the best air travel experience possible because the corner-cutting companies aren't able to dominate the industry? they aren't failing compared to those holding high standards precisely because they are propped up by the federal government, which is the entire point of the discussion at hand maybe learn to read or something lol <cite>berniepanders posted [p:876946941] in People are... [t:75222203]...</cite> <quote><cite>adjl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>berniepanders posted...</cite> <quote>some airlines would fail utterly due to corner-cutting while others which maintain a high standard in all of those areas would rise to the top as consumers gravitate towards the optimal intersection of service quality and cost.</quote> Do you think that happens now? Can you honestly say that the airlines that are cutting every corner they legally can are failing compared to airlines that are more focused on maintaining high standards of service quality? That passengers are getting the best air travel experience possible because the corner-cutting companies aren't able to dominate the industry?</quote> they aren't failing compared to those holding high standards precisely because they are propped up by the federal government, which is the entire point of the discussion at hand maybe learn to read or something lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lokarin 04/10/17 9:23:34 PM #38:	Make overbooking illegal, done --- "Salt cures Everything!" My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Nirakolov/videos <cite>Lokarin posted [p:876947154] in People are... [t:75222203]...</cite> <quote>Make overbooking illegal, done</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
adjl 04/10/17 10:58:36 PM #39:	berniepanders posted... they aren't failing compared to those holding high standards precisely because they are propped up by the federal government, which is the entire point of the discussion at hand Sounds like the problem is the subsidies, then, rather than the regulation. So why didn't they go bankrupt before the subsidies came into effect? --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. <cite>adjl posted [p:876954006] in People are... [t:75222203]...</cite> <quote><cite>berniepanders posted...</cite> <quote>they aren't failing compared to those holding high standards precisely because they are propped up by the federal government, which is the entire point of the discussion at hand</quote> Sounds like the problem is the subsidies, then, rather than the regulation. So why didn't they go bankrupt before the subsidies came into effect?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
berniepanders 04/10/17 11:00:20 PM #40:	are you high? plenty of airlines have gone bankrupt lol https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_airline_bankruptcies_in_the_United_States <cite>berniepanders posted [p:876954115] in People are... [t:75222203]...</cite> <quote>are you high? plenty of airlines have gone bankrupt lol https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_airline_bankruptcies_in_the_United_States</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
adjl 04/10/17 11:01:48 PM #41:	berniepanders posted... are you high? plenty of airlines have gone bankrupt lol Sure, but I'm not talking about those ones. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. <cite>adjl posted [p:876954212] in People are... [t:75222203]...</cite> <quote><cite>berniepanders posted...</cite> <quote>are you high? plenty of airlines have gone bankrupt lol</quote> Sure, but I'm not talking about those ones.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zareth 04/10/17 11:04:23 PM #42:	You know refusing to do what an airline employee tells you to do on a plane is a federal offense, right? --- It's okay, I have no idea who I am either. http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a374/sage_assassin20/13295475117601.gif http://i.imgur.com/WOo6wcq.png <cite>Zareth posted [p:876954356] in People are... [t:75222203]...</cite> <quote>You know refusing to do what an airline employee tells you to do on a plane is a federal offense, right?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
adjl 04/10/17 11:04:59 PM #43:	Zareth posted... You know refusing to do what an airline employee tells you to do on a plane is a federal offense, right? Which is why airline employees should be held to high standards of responsible use of that power. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. <cite>adjl posted [p:876954391] in People are... [t:75222203]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zareth posted...</cite> <quote>You know refusing to do what an airline employee tells you to do on a plane is a federal offense, right?</quote> Which is why airline employees should be held to high standards of responsible use of that power.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lil_Bit83 04/10/17 11:06:17 PM #44:	Well United Airlines certainly needs to come under investigation. They've got no business treating people that way. --- I'm a chick <cite>Lil_Bit83 posted [p:876954467] in People are... [t:75222203]...</cite> <quote>Well United Airlines certainly needs to come under investigation. They've got no business treating people that way.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269 04/10/17 11:18:03 PM #45:	Here's a thought, just let planes fly with empty seats, like every other form of transportation. --- RIP_Supa posted... I've seen some stuff <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted [p:876955216] in People are... [t:75222203]...</cite> <quote>Here's a thought, just let planes fly with empty seats, like every other form of transportation.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Johnny Eagle 04/10/17 11:28:39 PM #46:	Kyuubi4269 posted... Here's a thought, just let planes fly with empty seats, like every other form of transportation. Or maybe create the airline equivalent of something like hotels.com --- "Life's a game. It's meant to be played." "Amateurs built the Ark. Professionals built the Titanic." <cite>Johnny Eagle posted [p:876955841] in People are... [t:75222203]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote>Here's a thought, just let planes fly with empty seats, like every other form of transportation.</quote> Or maybe create the airline equivalent of something like hotels.com</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lokarin 04/10/17 11:31:12 PM #47:	Johnny Eagle posted... Kyuubi4269 posted... Here's a thought, just let planes fly with empty seats, like every other form of transportation. Or maybe create the airline equivalent of something like hotels.com They did, and he got sued for it --- "Salt cures Everything!" My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Nirakolov/videos <cite>Lokarin posted [p:876955993] in People are... [t:75222203]...</cite> <quote><cite>Johnny Eagle posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote>Here's a thought, just let planes fly with empty seats, like every other form of transportation.</quote> Or maybe create the airline equivalent of something like hotels.com</quote> They did, and he got sued for it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
iwantmyoldid 04/10/17 11:53:53 PM #48:	So one of the first thing I read when reading about this was that United's stock price actually went UP. The reasoning being supposedly that airlines already normalmy have bad image so bad PR wont change anything. Also a previous CEO of an airline called the passenger immature. Lol so much for the market taking care of it. What is it with these anarchist wannabes around here that want as little goverment control as possible? The more rules and order guiding a place, the better. As long as those rules are fair I mean. <cite>iwantmyoldid posted [p:876957173] in People are... [t:75222203]...</cite> <quote>So one of the first thing I read when reading about this was that United's stock price actually went UP. The reasoning being supposedly that airlines already normalmy have bad image so bad PR wont change anything. Also a previous CEO of an airline called the passenger immature. Lol so much for the market taking care of it. What is it with these anarchist wannabes around here that want as little goverment control as possible? The more rules and order guiding a place, the better. As long as those rules are fair I mean.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
berniepanders 04/10/17 11:55:27 PM #49:	adjl posted... berniepanders posted... are you high? plenty of airlines have gone bankrupt lol Sure, but I'm not talking about those ones. haaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahaha you're getting almost as good at backpedaling as erik is at being wrong <cite>berniepanders posted [p:876957262] in People are... [t:75222203]...</cite> <quote><cite>adjl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>berniepanders posted...</cite> <quote>are you high? plenty of airlines have gone bankrupt lol</quote> Sure, but I'm not talking about those ones.</quote> haaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahaha you're getting almost as good at backpedaling as erik is at being wrong</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
berniepanders 04/10/17 11:57:29 PM #50:	iwantmyoldid posted... The more rules and order guiding a place, the better. yeah because places like nazi germany, fascist italy, north korea, etc. are such great places. they had so many rules, and so much order! <cite>berniepanders posted [p:876957387] in People are... [t:75222203]...</cite> <quote><cite>iwantmyoldid posted...</cite> <quote>The more rules and order guiding a place, the better.</quote> yeah because places like nazi germany, fascist italy, north korea, etc. are such great places. they had so many rules, and so much order!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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