Current Events > An 11-year-old boy killed himself after his girlfriend faked her death

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/education/wp/2017/04/09/an-11-year-old-boy-killed-himself-after-his-girlfriend-faked-her-death-shes-now-facing-charges/?utm_term=.3a05adaf1f3d

Tysen Benz was in his room when he read text messages saying someone he knew had committed suicide.

Shortly after, the 11-year-old boy from Michigan’s Upper Peninsula hanged himself.

Now, a 13-year-old girl is facing criminal charges in connection to his death. Marquette County Prosecuting Attorney Matt Wiese said the girl posed as someone else when she faked her own death during a text conversation with Tysen. And the boy, for reasons still unclear, believed it and killed himself within two hours of receiving the messages, Wiese said.

Wiese said he could not confirm the relationship between Tysen and the girl, but media reports say she was his girlfriend.

“The impact that it had on the boy — there’s a logical connection,” Wiese told The Washington Post. “He did this within hours of the conversation happening via text.”

The girl, whose name was not released, has been charged with malicious use of telecommunication service, punishable by up to six months in juvenile detention; and using a computer to commit a crime, which carries up to a year in punishment. Both are misdemeanor charges.

The incident happened on March 14. Nothing seemed amiss when he came home from school earlier that day, said the boy’s mother, Katrina Goss, of Marquette, Mich. He seemed happy and was proud that he had gone to his tutoring session without being reminded, Goss told The Washington Post. She baked him some treats as a reward. After dinner, Tysen went up to his room.

Shortly after 10 p.m., Goss went to each of her three sons’ rooms to tuck them in. Tysen’s door was locked, but she was able to open it with her key. At first, she thought her middle son was hiding or playing a trick because he wasn’t in his bed.

“I went in and I thought he was being silly,” Goss told The Post. “I ended up finding him in the closet . … I tried to hurry up and lift him up. I was screaming. I told my oldest son to call 911. My littlest one was bawling.”

Goss said the paramedics were able to revive Tysen. The boy was hospitalized for three weeks before he died on Tuesday.

Goss said her son often used Snapchat. The night he died, she said he was texting and talking on Snapchat with the 13-year-old girl, who was using someone else’s account when she told Tysen that his girlfriend had died. No one warned her son that it was all a prank, Goss said.

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how does an 11-year-old even figure how to successfully hang himself?

like i don't think i could even do it properly

must be the difference with growing up with the internet and social media.. shame

That's dumb as fuck. Give her a faking one's own death charge but nobody is responsible for someone else's choice to off himself.

Mystere posted...

That's dumb as fuck. Give her a faking one's own death charge but nobody is responsible for someone else's choice to off himself.

Deliberately trying to troll someone into committing suicide is most definitely a crime and the person holds some responsibility for it.
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11 year olds shouldn't have gfs
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RebelElite791 posted...

Mystere posted...

That's dumb as f***. Give her a faking one's own death charge but nobody is responsible for someone else's choice to off himself.

Deliberately trying to troll someone into committing suicide is most definitely a crime and the person holds some responsibility for it.

How do you know that the outcome was deliberate?
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RebelElite791 posted...

Mystere posted...

That's dumb as fuck. Give her a faking one's own death charge but nobody is responsible for someone else's choice to off himself.

Deliberately trying to troll someone into committing suicide is most definitely a crime and the person holds some responsibility for it.

People have tried to get me to. I didn't because I'm not an idiot. Ya know.... the whole "If Mike told you to jump off a cliff, would you?"

fenderbender321 posted...

RebelElite791 posted...

Mystere posted...

That's dumb as fuck. Give her a faking one's own death charge but nobody is responsible for someone else's choice to off himself.

Deliberately trying to troll someone into committing suicide is most definitely a crime and the person holds some responsibility for it.

But there's no way somebody can make another person commit suicide. Otherwise, it's not really suicide.

You definitely can influence a persons suicide. Committing suicide is more of a mental state of mind. You can actively put someone in that state of mind. Factor in the kid was 11, and she faked her own death. I can see how this ended up happening.

lilORANG posted...

11 year olds shouldn't have gfs

I went into this thread expecting a Romeo & Juliet joke.

Mystere posted...

RebelElite791 posted...

Mystere posted...

That's dumb as fuck. Give her a faking one's own death charge but nobody is responsible for someone else's choice to off himself.

Deliberately trying to troll someone into committing suicide is most definitely a crime and the person holds some responsibility for it.

People have tried to get me to. I didn't because I'm not an idiot. Ya know.... the whole "If Mike told you to jump off a cliff, would you?"

Happy for you, however thats a testament to your state of mind. Its not really an intelligence thing.

Omnislasher posted...

how does an 11-year-old even figure how to successfully hang himself?

like i don't think i could even do it properly

must be the difference with growing up with the internet and social media.. shame

How stupid are the 11 year olds you encounter that don't know what their throat is doing?
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Dude what the fuck I don't even know where to begin.
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Omnislasher posted...

how does an 11-year-old even figure how to successfully hang himself?

like i don't think i could even do it properly

must be the difference with growing up with the internet and social media.. shame

We tend to give kids less and less credit as we get older. They aren't that dumb. I mean, 11 is well old enough to know how to tie a knot.
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fenderbender321 posted...

It absolutely should not be a crime. It should never be a crime to make somebody feel sad. Seriously, policing this kind of behavior will have ill effects on society.

faking your death is already a crime. I'm not sure what else needs to be said.
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the fuck is an 11 year old doing with a girlfriend.
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fenderbender321 posted...

asdf8562 posted...

fenderbender321 posted...

RebelElite791 posted...

Mystere posted...

That's dumb as fuck. Give her a faking one's own death charge but nobody is responsible for someone else's choice to off himself.

Deliberately trying to troll someone into committing suicide is most definitely a crime and the person holds some responsibility for it.

But there's no way somebody can make another person commit suicide. Otherwise, it's not really suicide.

You definitely can influence a persons suicide. Committing suicide is more of a mental state of mind. You can actively put someone in that state of mind. Factor in the kid was 11, and she faked her own death. I can see how this ended up happening.

It absolutely should not be a crime. It should never be a crime to make somebody feel sad. Seriously, policing this kind of behavior will have ill effects on society.

I would call it involuntary manslaughter.
This girl was too young to deserve that charge, though.
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fenderbender321 posted...

asdf8562 posted...

fenderbender321 posted...

RebelElite791 posted...

Mystere posted...

That's dumb as f***. Give her a faking one's own death charge but nobody is responsible for someone else's choice to off himself.

Deliberately trying to troll someone into committing suicide is most definitely a crime and the person holds some responsibility for it.

But there's no way somebody can make another person commit suicide. Otherwise, it's not really suicide.

You definitely can influence a persons suicide. Committing suicide is more of a mental state of mind. You can actively put someone in that state of mind. Factor in the kid was 11, and she faked her own death. I can see how this ended up happening.

It absolutely should not be a crime. It should never be a crime to make somebody feel sad. Seriously, policing this kind of behavior will have ill effects on society.

Making someone feel sad is one thing, enciting them to commit suicide is a other. Convincing someone that it's in their best interest to kill themselves should absolutely be a crime. Though from how it's presented I don't think that's the case here. Seems like a stupid prank gone wrong with a very unfortunate outcome. I don't believe that this girl was actually trying to convince the boy to kill himself, she was just making a tasteless joke.
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11 year old

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Cell phone

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angst

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kill self
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fenderbender321 posted...

But if that happens, that's all on you.

Nope. We have laws against those that would encite people to commit violence against others. Why should those laws stop short when those others turn out to be yourself?
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RebelElite791 posted...

Mystere posted...

That's dumb as fuck. Give her a faking one's own death charge but nobody is responsible for someone else's choice to off himself.

Deliberately trying to troll someone into committing suicide is most definitely a crime and the person holds some responsibility for it.

No, that's not illegal. Though faking one's death may be illegal depending on context, which seems to be the main reason for the charge.
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For me to even consider this a valid charge it would have to be intentional. Like her goal was him killing himself.

My thought is it was dumb, incredibly so, and irrepressibly cruel but I don't think she should be charged for being dumb and mean. That's most kids.

If her goal was him killing himself it's closer and I probably lean towards charging her but as a minor. Maybe some juvie time and mandatory counseling .
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Reminds me of this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZVctr6gksA