Current Events > Sovereign citizen gets tasered in court house. Did he deserve it?

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DifferentialEquation
04/12/17 8:02:29 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfVbiefMdNU

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Darklit_Minuet
04/12/17 8:02:54 PM
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Nobody deserves being shot or tased, ever
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meingott
04/12/17 8:03:38 PM
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We need to consult a true expert

@DawkinsNumber4
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meingott
04/12/17 8:05:20 PM
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Darklit_Minuet posted...
Nobody deserves being shot or tased, ever


what if someone is about to attack an innocent person
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Axiom
04/12/17 8:05:27 PM
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Sovereign citizen gets tasered in court house. Did he deserve it?

Sovereign citizen

I don't even have to watch to know he deserved it
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DawkinsNumber4
04/12/17 8:06:02 PM
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You CANNOT BRING CAMERAS INTO COURTROOMS IN MOST STATES!
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organicbamf
04/12/17 8:08:04 PM
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Darklit_Minuet posted...
Nobody deserves being shot or tased, ever


that's untrue

but in this case, i don't think tasing was necessary at the point it happened, but i could see how this SOVEREIGN CITIZEN would quickly become an actual problem, you know?

what a dumb fuck
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jenningsnash313
04/12/17 8:09:42 PM
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The dude in the video is basically just Dawkins.
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DawkinsNumber4
04/12/17 8:10:47 PM
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For example Rule 16-208 in Maryland covers this. I feel like my rights are being violated not because of some made up bullshit but because I have not seen a written order or been given a designation to pickup my device, only told not to bring it inside of the COURT BUILDING. Everyone else can though.
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jenningsnash313
04/12/17 8:11:35 PM
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"I don't know what kinda of lawbook you're reading, but it doesn't apply to me"

Yeah, this guy was a douchebag for sure, but tasered? No, absolutely not.
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DawkinsNumber4
04/12/17 8:11:37 PM
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jenningsnash313 posted...
The dude in the video is basically just Dawkins.



I don't invent laws. Everything I tell you is in current law books or is up to date. You cannot bring cameras into courtrooms pretty much everywhere and the exceptions are usually for media. That's why you see weird ass sketches of high-profile cases.
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ChromaticAngel
04/12/17 8:12:56 PM
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Darklit_Minuet
04/13/17 1:26:28 AM
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meingott posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
Nobody deserves being shot or tased, ever


what if someone is about to attack an innocent person

Cops should be trained to subdue people without shooting or tasing them. They manage it just fine in every country that isn't the US
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Nazanir
04/13/17 1:29:06 AM
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Axiom posted...
Sovereign citizen gets tasered in court house. Did he deserve it?

Sovereign citizen

I don't even have to watch to know he deserved it

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monkmith
04/13/17 1:46:07 AM
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Darklit_Minuet posted...
meingott posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
Nobody deserves being shot or tased, ever


what if someone is about to attack an innocent person

Cops should be trained to subdue people without shooting or tasing them. They manage it just fine in every country that isn't the US

so, tazing bad, bludgeoning with a stick good?
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Darklit_Minuet
04/13/17 1:48:56 AM
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monkmith posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
meingott posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
Nobody deserves being shot or tased, ever


what if someone is about to attack an innocent person

Cops should be trained to subdue people without shooting or tasing them. They manage it just fine in every country that isn't the US

so, tazing bad, bludgeoning with a stick good?

Does your mind always resort to violence?
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monkmith
04/13/17 1:52:18 AM
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Darklit_Minuet posted...
monkmith posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
meingott posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
Nobody deserves being shot or tased, ever


what if someone is about to attack an innocent person

Cops should be trained to subdue people without shooting or tasing them. They manage it just fine in every country that isn't the US

so, tazing bad, bludgeoning with a stick good?

Does your mind always resort to violence?

because stern warnings only rarely works on aggressive assholes, and every nation with a police force gives their cops some form of weapon to subdue a suspect.
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SpiralDrift
04/13/17 1:53:26 AM
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Nah, he didn't deserve it. The guy that tased him just did it to punish him because he was annoyed.
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kingdrake2
04/13/17 1:54:35 AM
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DawkinsNumber4 posted...
You CANNOT BRING CAMERAS INTO COURTROOMS IN MOST STATES!


it's the truth, following direction he didn't which led to the consequence being dealt.
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Vyrulisse
04/13/17 1:57:22 AM
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They had me at Sovereign Citizen. So yes he deserved it.
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shnangyboos
04/13/17 2:56:41 AM
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Sovereign citizen


Yeah, he deserved it.
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ThePrinceFish
04/13/17 3:04:24 AM
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Well deserved.
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hakujo
04/13/17 3:05:12 AM
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Quite an annoying person
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MabusIncarnate
04/13/17 3:08:14 AM
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lmao, get tased nub.
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DoctorVader
04/13/17 3:08:55 AM
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Old as shit.
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NES4EVER
04/13/17 3:16:37 AM
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Its funny...
I read sovereign citizen in the title and before I'd even read beyond that, I knew they should be tazed.

I didnt even know tazer was an option. Just instinctively wanted them tazed.
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thrashmetal14
04/13/17 7:51:27 AM
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Im a libertarian and all for individual rights, but this guy is a joke. Really? Youre not a person?
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bluezero
04/13/17 7:57:44 AM
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Axiom posted...
Sovereign citizen gets tasered in court house. Did he deserve it?

Sovereign citizen

I don't even have to watch to know he deserved it

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TheBiggerWiggle
04/13/17 7:58:50 AM
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Sovereign Citizens are usually idiots and deserve whatever violence they're on the receiving end of.

This case was no different.
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SpiralDrift
04/13/17 8:02:15 AM
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I can't get behind condoning violence just because someone's annoying. The guy was wrong but he wasn't being violent at all.
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fuzzylittlbunny
04/13/17 8:04:31 AM
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SpiralDrift posted...
I can't get behind condoning violence just because someone's annoying. The guy was wrong but he wasn't being violent at all.

What if they're forcibly trying to break the law and ignore multiple warnings to desist?
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SpiralDrift
04/13/17 8:25:59 AM
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fuzzylittlbunny posted...
SpiralDrift posted...
I can't get behind condoning violence just because someone's annoying. The guy was wrong but he wasn't being violent at all.

What if they're forcibly trying to break the law and ignore multiple warnings to desist?

If he was breaking the law he should have been arrested. If he physically resisted then tasing would be an option, but that didn't happen.
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fuzzylittlbunny
04/13/17 9:14:15 AM
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SpiralDrift posted...
If he was breaking the law he should have been arrested. If he physically resisted then tasing would be an option, but that didn't happen.

That moron said "Please step aside, I'm going in.", then tried to walk past those two guys . And as previously mentioned, it's illegal to film court proceedings in most cases. He ignored their warnings and blatantly tried to break the law.
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pinky0926
04/13/17 9:17:58 AM
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As someone else pointed out, the full version of this video shows the guy being incredibly obtuse for the sake of obtuse for like an hour to everyone. And then after all this he just arrogantly tries to push past security guards despite their repeated warnings for him not to. I'm not really in favour of tasering generally but I just...don't feel bad about it here.
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eston
04/13/17 9:21:05 AM
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pinky0926
04/13/17 9:21:47 AM
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Lol at this youtube comment:

Sovereign citizens are a group of paranoids who have delusions of a conspiracy in which they get to role play patriotic heroes rebelling against a corrupt illegitimate government. Any interaction with them is hostile and argumentative, particularly against authority figures because they have an oppositional defiance disorder, but towards strangers, as well. They are very self-important and condescending, and will frequently upload videos of them being beaten, arrested, or held in contempt and claiming they are evidence of winning against their conspiratorial foes.

Remind any of you guys of a particular CEman in our presence?
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pinky0926
04/13/17 9:22:49 AM
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Also this one:

What's the big deal? They didn't taser him, they only tasered his person.%uFEFF
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DawkinsNumber4
04/13/17 9:27:23 AM
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Not bringing cameras into courtrooms is a very serious requirement because it can jeopardize entire cases as well as put people testifying and such in danger. Anyone who truly knows their rights know it's this way to protect OTHER PEOPLE'S rights.
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monkeysRfunny
04/13/17 9:27:34 AM
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pinky0926 posted...
Also this one:

What's the big deal? They didn't taser him, they only tasered his person.

That one made me laugh lol

Don't want to get tased? Don't be a super annoying dick and try to break the law while informing the authorities of your efforts to break the law. Actually just don't break the law period. That should be common sense.
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pinky0926
04/13/17 9:28:16 AM
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monkeysRfunny posted...
pinky0926 posted...
Also this one:

What's the big deal? They didn't taser him, they only tasered his person.

That one made me laugh lol

Don't want to get tased? Don't be a super annoying dick and try to break the law while informing the authorities of your efforts to break the law. Actually just don't break the law period. That should be common sense.


No no, laws don't apply to his person. He is not a citizen, remember?
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Veggeta_MAX
04/13/17 9:28:25 AM
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I'm not driving. I'm traveling.
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DawkinsNumber4
04/13/17 9:30:48 AM
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Veggeta_MAX posted...
I'm not driving. I'm traveling.



Shit like this is why it annoys me when people associate me with sovereign citizens. I have a social security number, it doesn't bother me, I am not all "down with the feds", and every law I mention is based on up to date legislation, not 200 year old archaic laws that I selectively chose to use to try to argue my point.
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pinky0926
04/13/17 9:39:22 AM
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DawkinsNumber4 posted...
Veggeta_MAX posted...
I'm not driving. I'm traveling.



Shit like this is why it annoys me when people associate me with sovereign citizens. I have a social security number, it doesn't bother me, I am not all "down with the feds", and every law I mention is based on up to date legislation, not 200 year old archaic laws that I selectively chose to use to try to argue my point.


People associate you with sovereign citizens because you are obtuse enough to do things like not take a cops' order to hit the bricks because he said the word "go" instead of "leave". You take this to such a degree that apparently you are prepared to get arrested over this bullshit. That's why people associate you with sovereign citizens.
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Veggeta_MAX
04/13/17 9:40:39 AM
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DawkinsNumber4 posted...
Veggeta_MAX posted...
I'm not driving. I'm traveling.



Shit like this is why it annoys me when people associate me with sovereign citizens. I have a social security number, it doesn't bother me, I am not all "down with the feds", and every law I mention is based on up to date legislation, not 200 year old archaic laws that I selectively chose to use to try to argue my point.

Dude your anti-authority stuff is pretty sovereign citizen like.
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Giant_Aspirin
04/13/17 9:43:32 AM
#46:


Axiom posted...
Sovereign citizen gets tasered in court house. Did he deserve it?

Sovereign citizen

I don't even have to watch to know he deserved it


basically this. these "sovereign citizens" are pretty much always obnoxious assholes
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monkeysRfunny
04/13/17 9:48:29 AM
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pinky0926 posted...
monkeysRfunny posted...
pinky0926 posted...
Also this one:

What's the big deal? They didn't taser him, they only tasered his person.

That one made me laugh lol

Don't want to get tased? Don't be a super annoying dick and try to break the law while informing the authorities of your efforts to break the law. Actually just don't break the law period. That should be common sense.


No no, laws don't apply to his person. He is not a citizen, remember?

Right, right, I forgot about that...But he said he's a MAN. He should just bust his way through then! Why bother with that girly "Let the record show that you just battered me" when he got tapped back? He should prove his manliness and go all kung fu on those guys. A taser shouldn't stop him!
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DawkinsNumber4
04/13/17 10:03:21 AM
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pinky0926 posted...
DawkinsNumber4 posted...
Veggeta_MAX posted...
I'm not driving. I'm traveling.



Shit like this is why it annoys me when people associate me with sovereign citizens. I have a social security number, it doesn't bother me, I am not all "down with the feds", and every law I mention is based on up to date legislation, not 200 year old archaic laws that I selectively chose to use to try to argue my point.


People associate you with sovereign citizens because you are obtuse enough to do things like not take a cops' order to hit the bricks because he said the word "go" instead of "leave". You take this to such a degree that apparently you are prepared to get arrested over this bullshit. That's why people associate you with sovereign citizens.



Again, if the cop doesn't follow the law that's on him, I know the law. Every time someone posts a sovereign citizen they invent laws. I never invent any law and everything I cite is current state and/or federal law.
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DawkinsNumber4
04/13/17 10:03:48 AM
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Veggeta_MAX posted...
DawkinsNumber4 posted...
Veggeta_MAX posted...
I'm not driving. I'm traveling.



Shit like this is why it annoys me when people associate me with sovereign citizens. I have a social security number, it doesn't bother me, I am not all "down with the feds", and every law I mention is based on up to date legislation, not 200 year old archaic laws that I selectively chose to use to try to argue my point.

Dude your anti-authority stuff is pretty sovereign citizen like.



I am not anti-authority, I am just trying to make sure they follow the law.
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RebelElite791
04/13/17 10:07:39 AM
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Axiom posted...
Sovereign citizen gets tasered in court house. Did he deserve it?

Sovereign citizen

I don't even have to watch to know he deserved it

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