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Ampelas
04/16/17 11:28:15 AM
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Here's how things run

Trump stays at Mar A Lago
Secret Service stays at Mar A Lago
They get charged to stay at Mar A Lago
Bill goes to US treasury
Taxpayers foot bill
Money gets paid to Mar A Lago owners
Owner is Trump

Every "vacation" he takes is paid for by us taxpayers and goes into his pockets. How is that at all right?

For reference on how much money has been spent

https://istrumpatmaralago.org/
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ASithLord7
04/16/17 11:28:46 AM
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Congressional Republicans don't care. That's all that needs to happen for him to get away with it.
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Antifar
04/16/17 11:29:34 AM
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ASithLord7 posted...
Congressional Republicans don't care. That's all that needs to happen for him to get away with it.

Right.
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AltonBrownFan
04/16/17 11:31:45 AM
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He's not black so don't expect any marches over fiscal responsibility.
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Ampelas
04/16/17 11:32:52 AM
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Antifar posted...
ASithLord7 posted...
Congressional Republicans don't care. That's all that needs to happen for him to get away with it.

Right.

His supporters though, who get so upset when their tax dollars are helping people get health insurance are silent when their tax dollars are going directly into Donald's pockets. What gives?
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Phantom_Nook
04/16/17 11:33:02 AM
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Because every vacation is a business trip in disguise.
Except when they aren't. Which is all the time.
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Balkov
04/16/17 11:33:55 AM
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Ampelas posted...
Antifar posted...
ASithLord7 posted...
Congressional Republicans don't care. That's all that needs to happen for him to get away with it.

Right.

His supporters though, who get so upset when their tax dollars are helping people get health insurance are silent when their tax dollars are going directly into Donald's pockets. What gives?


It's essentially a cult for a lot of his followers.
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Ampelas
04/16/17 11:44:40 AM
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Balkov posted...
Ampelas posted...
Antifar posted...
ASithLord7 posted...
Congressional Republicans don't care. That's all that needs to happen for him to get away with it.

Right.

His supporters though, who get so upset when their tax dollars are helping people get health insurance are silent when their tax dollars are going directly into Donald's pockets. What gives?


It's essentially a cult for a lot of his followers.

True, but a lot of things people shit on Trump for are the result of stupid decisions on his part. This is blatant corruption. Wide out in the open as well, he's not even trying to hide that he's skimming off the taxpayer till. Makes his "generous" salary donation look even more paltry in comparison
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Balkov
04/16/17 11:55:12 AM
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Ampelas posted...
Balkov posted...
Ampelas posted...
Antifar posted...
ASithLord7 posted...
Congressional Republicans don't care. That's all that needs to happen for him to get away with it.

Right.

His supporters though, who get so upset when their tax dollars are helping people get health insurance are silent when their tax dollars are going directly into Donald's pockets. What gives?


It's essentially a cult for a lot of his followers.

True, but a lot of things people shit on Trump for are the result of stupid decisions on his part. This is blatant corruption. Wide out in the open as well, he's not even trying to hide that he's skimming off the taxpayer till. Makes his "generous" salary donation look even more paltry in comparison


The money he's already making is corruption enough and then China goes and gives Trump company 38 trademarks. I don't think he's bothering divesting at all from his business.
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epik_fail1
04/16/17 11:58:56 AM
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How does he get away with the ACN pyramid scheme scam?

How does he get away with not paying his employees?

How does he get away with the scam that his Trump's university?

Simple reason : His supporters are blind cultists.
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tremain07
04/16/17 11:59:48 AM
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Don't forget about his fucking kids talking business with him, his daughter having an undefined office at the white house and one of the sons bragging about how great nepotism is. They're all out in the open with using the government as their personal bank account and nobody cares because fuck liberals, fuck feminism,fuck PC culture and fuck liberals in general.

Seven years of this.
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Ampelas
04/16/17 12:17:24 PM
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It's ridiculous that partisan bullshit is keeping Congress from doing something
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armandro
04/16/17 12:18:31 PM
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LMAO classic Trump

once a finesser
always a finesser

you can't blame him guys
he just can't turn it off
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Ammonitida
04/16/17 12:19:25 PM
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He needs a secure place to meet with his Russian comrades. The White House has too many bugs.
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TheVipaGTS
04/16/17 12:19:53 PM
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he's just taking advantage of the system guys its a free country! don't blame him, blame the system!
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Manocheese
04/16/17 12:21:01 PM
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It's a small price to pay to make America great again.
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Phantom_Nook
04/16/17 12:22:19 PM
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Manocheese posted...
It's a small price to pay to make America great again.

If only he were doing that, or even trying to do it.
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Ampelas
04/16/17 12:24:49 PM
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Ammonitida posted...
He needs a secure place to meet with his Russian comrades. The White House has too many bugs.

As a Trump cultist, I know you're contractually obligated to deflect, but Russia was not mentioned once. What are your thoughts on this very real misappropriation of taxpayer money?
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Drasilor
04/16/17 12:29:05 PM
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How does Israel keep scamming us out of billions each year?
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Ampelas
04/16/17 12:34:13 PM
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Drasilor posted...
How does Israel keep scamming us out of billions each year?

What does that have to do with this in the slightest?
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TommyG663513
04/16/17 12:38:51 PM
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This wouldn't be so bad if Trump hadn't complained so much about Obama doing for doing significantly less golf/vacationing.

This one thing he keeps repeatedly doing wouldn't be so bad if it wasn't like the 8th thing he complained about someone else doing that he later ended up doing himself to a higher degree.

This wouldn't be so bad if he wasn't president.

This wouldn't be so bad if he hadn't worked with the Russians to get elected.
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TommyG663513
04/16/17 12:40:28 PM
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Ampelas posted...
Drasilor posted...
How does Israel keep scamming us out of billions each year?

What does that have to do with this in the slightest?


I'm sure you are aware it has nothing to do with it and is just a typical Trump supporter deflection.
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TheVipaGTS
04/16/17 12:42:44 PM
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M_Live posted...
How the fuck has he spent $25 million on staying at a hotel

and its only April of year one. if this trend keeps up consider how much he will have spent by January 2021.
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Sativa_Rose
04/16/17 12:43:22 PM
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Do they actually get charged to stay at Mar A Lago?
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V-E-G-Y-
04/16/17 12:44:17 PM
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Ampelas
04/16/17 12:44:57 PM
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TommyG663513 posted...
Ampelas posted...
Drasilor posted...
How does Israel keep scamming us out of billions each year?

What does that have to do with this in the slightest?


I'm sure you are aware it has nothing to do with it and is just a typical Trump supporter deflection.

But my confusion stems from supporting Israel being a Republican idea. Yes it has bipartisan support for the most part, but I'm not sure why he's deflecting to Republicans when he claims to be conservative.
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ASithLord7
04/16/17 12:46:04 PM
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Ampelas posted...
TommyG663513 posted...
Ampelas posted...
Drasilor posted...
How does Israel keep scamming us out of billions each year?

What does that have to do with this in the slightest?


I'm sure you are aware it has nothing to do with it and is just a typical Trump supporter deflection.

But my confusion stems from supporting Israel being a Republican idea. Yes it has bipartisan support for the most part, but I'm not sure why he's deflecting to Republicans when he claims to be conservative.

Given the kinds of people Drasilor defends (Nathan Damigo) I'm guessing his dislike for Jews outweighs his support for Republican defense of Israel.
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Ampelas
04/16/17 12:48:10 PM
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ASithLord7 posted...
Ampelas posted...
TommyG663513 posted...
Ampelas posted...
Drasilor posted...
How does Israel keep scamming us out of billions each year?

What does that have to do with this in the slightest?


I'm sure you are aware it has nothing to do with it and is just a typical Trump supporter deflection.

But my confusion stems from supporting Israel being a Republican idea. Yes it has bipartisan support for the most part, but I'm not sure why he's deflecting to Republicans when he claims to be conservative.

Given the kinds of people Drasilor defends (Nathan Damigo) I'm guessing his dislike for Jews outweighs his support for Republican defense of Israel.

Fair enough
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TommyG663513
04/16/17 12:52:18 PM
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Sativa_Rose posted...
Do they actually get charged to stay at Mar A Lago?


Wouldn't Trump lose money otherwise? I mean the SS does need to stay close to him so they've got to stay in the same hotel and probably just the next room over. I don't think the government can just not pay for a bunch of hotel rooms.

This wouldn't be as big of a deal if Trump stayed at a hotel he didn't own.

I mean, he is basically paying himself to take a vacation. He's making significantly more money by constantly going on vacation.

Gotta praise our dear leader for taking advantage of the system.
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Ampelas
04/16/17 1:59:34 PM
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TommyG663513 posted...
Gotta praise our dear leader for taking advantage of the system.

That's probably actually how they see it, lol.
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TheVipaGTS
04/16/17 2:08:29 PM
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Ampelas posted...
TommyG663513 posted...
Gotta praise our dear leader for taking advantage of the system.

That's probably actually how they see it, lol.

it is. they said the same thing when he admitted to not paying taxes.
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AltonBrownFan
04/16/17 2:14:17 PM
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TheVipaGTS posted...
Ampelas posted...
TommyG663513 posted...
Gotta praise our dear leader for taking advantage of the system.

That's probably actually how they see it, lol.

it is. they said the same thing when he admitted to not paying taxes.

Shame they feel more positively about their tax money going directly into a conman's pockets as he enriches himself and his family at their expense then they do with kicking a bit of those very same dollars over to their neighbors, friend's, and family in order to assist with their healthcare.

But I guess since taxes being used in that way doesn't upset the liberals so that's why they're against it.
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KronoCloud
04/16/17 2:20:09 PM
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He doesn't pay to stay there. That's the whole point of him vacationing there is because it's cheaper for taxpayers in the end.

It is strange he spends so much time there though. Like he has some inherent distrust of the white house
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Waluigi7
04/16/17 2:23:16 PM
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Fiscal conservatism.
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TheVipaGTS
04/16/17 2:27:14 PM
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KronoCloud posted...
He doesn't pay to stay there. That's the whole point of him vacationing there is because it's cheaper for taxpayers in the end.

It is strange he spends so much time there though. Like he has some inherent distrust of the white house

The conflict of interest is the concern. He profits from that location. Is every one who has to go with him also staying there for free? They're most likely not....and if you want to call them "business" trips then you'll have to assume there are other dignitaries going with him, who aren't paying the bill out of their own pockets....and that money goes right back to Trump.
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divot1338
04/16/17 2:32:11 PM
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Never mind the impropriety of treating his security as customers. He doesn't even offer them the perks a regular customer would get.

The SS should just buy 4wheeler and tear up his course instead of spending $35k in 3 months. What's he going to do, object?


Congressional Republicans will not start an investigation into anything he does, will derail or drag out anything that threatens to start one, and won't vote for impeachment if the subject were to ever come up.

Trump isn't the worst thing to happen to America this past election. The GOP taking over all three branches through gerrymandering and ensuring another thirty years of Supreme Court bullcrap is the worst thing that happened.
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Ampelas
04/16/17 2:39:01 PM
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KronoCloud posted...
He doesn't pay to stay there. That's the whole point of him vacationing there is because it's cheaper for taxpayers in the end.

It is strange he spends so much time there though. Like he has some inherent distrust of the white house

His secret service does though
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Iodine
04/16/17 2:42:09 PM
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I wonder if future GOP presidents will follow in the same path.
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TommyG663513
04/16/17 2:42:56 PM
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KronoCloud posted...
He doesn't pay to stay there. That's the whole point of him vacationing there is because it's cheaper for taxpayers in the end.

It is strange he spends so much time there though. Like he has some inherent distrust of the white house


No it'd actually be cheaper if he stayed at the WH instead of going to his resort most weekends. Melania also needs to get into the WH. His adult children also need to stop traveling the world with the SS in tow to handle their fathers business.
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tremain07
04/16/17 2:47:57 PM
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Iodine posted...
I wonder if future GOP presidents will follow in the same path.

I'm sure all future presidents are going to do this now, Trump has proven that you don't need to release your tax returns, you don't have to walk away from your businesses or their interests, you don't even have to conduct your business in the white house. People will vote for you if they hate the opposition that much and guess what, that hatred isn't going away in fact, it's stronger now more than ever and continuing to grow. You see, liberals. People hate liberals so much that they have sites everywhere imagining a world where liberalism and it's ideals were all wiped out from the world.
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divot1338
04/16/17 2:50:50 PM
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Ampelas posted...
KronoCloud posted...
He doesn't pay to stay there. That's the whole point of him vacationing there is because it's cheaper for taxpayers in the end.

It is strange he spends so much time there though. Like he has some inherent distrust of the white house

His secret service does though

He does it so he can bill the government for the SS and whatever staff he brings along. Plus I suspect he probably passes along bills for modifications and security enhancements.

Aside from all that their is the parallel but separate issue of the financial and logistical burden he and Melania place on their communities as they also incur costs by the police and cause traffic and general chaos when the roads get shut down.

The Coast Guard as well when he's in Mar-a-Lago. FAA when it comes to Trump Tower and the surrounding downtown airspace.

The whole thing just speaks to the general gives-zero-fucks attitude that family has about the rest of us. Honestly I doubt Trump would believe you if you tried to tell him that the president is meant to be a servant to the people.
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TheVipaGTS
04/16/17 2:55:14 PM
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When it comes to things like this its really disheartening when you think about where priorities are...

Health Care? Sorry, but MUH TAX DOLLARS, not fair, won't do it....Bootstraps...

...Oh Trump is using tax dollars so he can vacation and golf? And he basically makes a profit for his own personal gain from those tax dollars?...No prob, I'm ok with MUH TAX DOLLARS going to that since they are "business golf trips"....Even though Trump himself has admitted to not even contributing to that tax pool.
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NatsuSama
04/16/17 2:55:44 PM
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The man campaign off not being a corrupt shill to corporate America, who could relate to the American people who started out like your average joe.
His sheep legit thought this.

So to answer your question TC, he gets away with this because his loyal sheep will go through a mental gymnastics to defend him with alt facts.

No matter what the Orange Snowflake does, his sheep will only respond with:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxYQQoYfMtQ

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divot1338
04/16/17 2:57:51 PM
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Herc-a-leez, Herc-a-leez, Herc-a-leez!
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Lightsasori
04/16/17 2:58:25 PM
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Most Republicans I know of will just say that he's a smart person for taking advantage of the system, which they're not wrong but it's a stupid justification altogether though.
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04/16/17 2:58:50 PM
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UnholyMudcrab
04/16/17 3:06:57 PM
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Ampelas posted...
Antifar posted...
ASithLord7 posted...
Congressional Republicans don't care. That's all that needs to happen for him to get away with it.

Right.

His supporters though, who get so upset when their tax dollars are helping people get health insurance are silent when their tax dollars are going directly into Donald's pockets. What gives?

Republican voters have been voting against their own economic interest for decades. All the candidate has to do is say good things about Jesus and guns, and bad things about abortions, and those voters are completely sold.
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