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XmasPikachu 04/16/17 12:30:06 PM #1: |
Can ANY of the MAGA people explain to me how this is good for us? :
http://www.latimes.com/world/mexico-americas/la-fg-mexico-us-travel-20170414-story.html "Tourism Economics, a global research firm, estimates that lost visits from Mexico to the U.S. this year will total 1.8 million — a 7% drop from the previous year — with direct economic loss of $1.1 billion." The firm estimates that Mexico-to-U.S. travel will diminish even further in 2018, with 2.6 million lost visits and direct economic losses totaling $1.6 billion. Cesar Romero, the president of GMA, a group of travel associations, said he’s been told by his colleagues that there’s been a 15% to 20% decrease in interest in travel to the U.S. since Trump took office in January. Travel experts blame the trend on Trump and his “America first” rhetoric, as well as the hostile way he spoke of Mexico along the campaign trail. Note to moderators: This is NOT the whole article, not even 10% of it. Maybe not even 5%. So we're losing 1.6 billions of revenue in just 2 years because cheeto and the MAGA people don't like Hispanics and refuse to treat them like people (compare to the experience the typical European traveler has). How much funding did cheeto slash from say, the EPA? Note that I am talking about tourists, not immigrants. These are people who come here and spend money (according to an article, some spend $1,000 a day). Is racism and being able to be racist really worth 1.6 billion losses a year? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheVipaGTS 04/16/17 12:31:09 PM #2: |
Good! we only want AMERICAN Tourists!
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jayj350 04/16/17 12:31:22 PM #3: |
Sad!
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XmasPikachu 04/16/17 12:50:19 PM #4: |
TheVipaGTS posted...
Good! we only want AMERICAN Tourists! lol that is totally what they'd reply XD ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KStateKing17 04/16/17 12:51:50 PM #5: |
But hey, that wall :/
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Slip-N-Slide 04/16/17 12:53:52 PM #6: |
Wait I thought everyone in the fam was supposed to circle jerk around Trump like Hoth.
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XmasPikachu 04/16/17 12:54:12 PM #7: |
KStateKing17 posted...
But hey, that wall :/ I wonder if the MAGA peeps realize it's hard staying great without having any money to fund their previous army stuff. This article focused on ONE country, imagine how many others feel the same way and are refusing to visit us now :( ... Copied to Clipboard!
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XmasPikachu 04/16/17 12:55:01 PM #8: |
Slip-N-Slide posted...
Wait I thought everyone in the fam was supposed to circle jerk around Trump like Hoth. We are open minded, scholarly and smart at the fam. We respect each other's differences of opinion, which enrich us. If you're looking for hiveminds, look at the "warned general" clique. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Fax_Machine 04/16/17 1:02:50 PM #9: |
XmasPikachu posted...
So we're losing 1.6 billions of revenue in just 2 years So we lose 800 million per year. The yearly revenue of tourism in the U.S. is about 770 billion U.S. dollars Oh no we're losing out on...let's see 800 million divided by 770 billion...a whooping .0012% of our total tourism revenue. OH GOD SOMEONE HELP US! --- If you tell someone to stop encroaching on your freedom and they don't then you have to make them stop encroaching on your freedoms. The Golden Rule - XSquander ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CowboyDan 04/16/17 1:04:00 PM #10: |
Fax_Machine posted...
XmasPikachu posted...So we're losing 1.6 billions of revenue in just 2 years Dismissing 800 million dollars, what fiscal conservatism. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.2 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KStateKing17 04/16/17 1:06:21 PM #12: |
Fax_Machine posted...
XmasPikachu posted...So we're losing 1.6 billions of revenue in just 2 years This looks like it's just a loss from one country though. --- Mains: Xiaoyu/Zafina (Tekken)-Dhalsim (SF)-Jax (MK) Luong/Yamazaki/Joe (KoF) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CowboyDan 04/16/17 1:07:59 PM #13: |
Fax_Machine posted...
CowboyDan posted...Dismissing 800 million dollars, what fiscal conservatism. Strawman in all caps. What an intellectual giant you are. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.2 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheVipaGTS 04/16/17 1:08:38 PM #14: |
Fax_Machine posted...
XmasPikachu posted...So we're losing 1.6 billions of revenue in just 2 years lol triggered the trumpeter. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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foreveraIone 04/16/17 1:12:43 PM #16: |
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glitteringfairy 04/16/17 1:13:08 PM #17: |
I wonder how many of these "tourists" go back to Mexico
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CowboyDan 04/16/17 1:13:15 PM #18: |
wow, it's an actual meltdown. Kinda rare on CE these days.
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Fax_Machine 04/16/17 1:15:06 PM #19: |
CowboyDan posted...
wow, it's an actual meltdown. Kinda rare on CE these days. .0012% OH THE TRAVESTY! OUR ECONOMY MAY NEVER RECOVER. --- If you tell someone to stop encroaching on your freedom and they don't then you have to make them stop encroaching on your freedoms. The Golden Rule - XSquander ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheVipaGTS 04/16/17 1:17:54 PM #20: |
That was a quick Meltdown too...Did you run out of fruity pebbles this morning?
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CowboyDan 04/16/17 1:18:56 PM #21: |
TheVipaGTS posted...
That was a quick Meltdown too...Did you run out of fruity pebbles this morning? Yeah, it was pretty much immediate. Very strange. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.2 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Fax_Machine 04/16/17 1:32:11 PM #22: |
CowboyDan posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...That was a quick Meltdown too...Did you run out of fruity pebbles this morning? OH GOD LOOK AT THE NUMBERS THERES NO RECOVERING FROM THIS --- If you tell someone to stop encroaching on your freedom and they don't then you have to make them stop encroaching on your freedoms. The Golden Rule - XSquander ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SK8T3R215 04/16/17 1:34:00 PM #23: |
I mean that's a pretty immaterial change overall so I don't really see the big deal unless they project fewer tourists from other countries also.
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Capn Circus 04/16/17 1:42:32 PM #24: |
If wanting to secure our borders and enforce the immigration law offends some tourists, so be it.
We're going to attempt to have an actual country again. Get over it. Also way less than 1% of our total tourism revenue. --- "I think that man will be president right about the time when spaceships come down filled with dinosaurs in red capes" - Tom Hanks ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CowboyDan 04/16/17 1:45:43 PM #25: |
Capn Circus posted...
If wanting to secure our borders and enforce the immigration law offends some tourists, so be it. 2 failed travel bans and a nice border fence on the way. It's easy to get over an opponents failure. As an aside, how do you feel about Trump distancing himself from his previous nationalist positions? --- Posted with GameRaven 3.2 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KStateKing17 04/16/17 1:49:42 PM #26: |
SK8T3R215 posted...
I mean that's a pretty immaterial change overall so I don't really see the big deal unless they project fewer tourists from other countries also. I took it to meaning there's a possibility of losing money from multiple countries, but this is specifically focusing on Mexico. I wouldn't worry unless it's more than just the one country. --- Mains: Xiaoyu/Zafina (Tekken)-Dhalsim (SF)-Jax (MK) Luong/Yamazaki/Joe (KoF) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GoatHunter 04/16/17 4:17:21 PM #28: |
Fax_Machine posted...
XmasPikachu posted...So we're losing 1.6 billions of revenue in just 2 years Read the article. TC stated it clearly, Mexico is the #1 source of tourists for America. The #1. It is not 0.0012 lmao 0.000001 not, why lose 2 billions just for being able to be racist? --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GoatHunter 04/16/17 4:18:14 PM #29: |
Fax_Machine posted...
CowboyDan posted...wow, it's an actual meltdown. Kinda rare on CE these days. Bullshit stat is bullshit. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Iodine 04/16/17 4:19:28 PM #30: |
byron posted...
Capn Circus posted... What does that even mean? --- In Belichick we Trust ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GoatHunter 04/16/17 4:19:29 PM #31: |
KStateKing17 posted...
SK8T3R215 posted...I mean that's a pretty immaterial change overall so I don't really see the big deal unless they project fewer tourists from other countries also. "I'd only worry if white people are not coming either". Money is money --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Unsugarized_Foo 04/16/17 4:20:30 PM #32: |
How much do we gain from illegals deciding it's better to not come here with Trump walking around?
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Webmaster4531 04/16/17 4:30:22 PM #33: |
Unsugarized_Foo posted...
How much do we gain from illegals deciding it's better to not come here with Trump walking around? All of Trump's policies are ineffective. --- Ad Hominem. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GoatHunter 04/16/17 4:33:53 PM #34: |
Unsugarized_Foo posted...
How much do we gain from illegals deciding it's better to not come here with Trump walking around? What part of TOURISM don't you understand? These are all tourists. Ah wait, you're implying all Mexicans are illegals. Being Mexican is illegal, it's in their blood right? Illegal ADN. This is literal Hitler stuff, DISGUSTING --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bio1590 04/16/17 4:49:47 PM #35: |
I'm pretty sure they're saying the projected losses this year are $1.1B and next year it's $1.6B for $2.7B overall. That's the only way the numbers actually make sense.
But yes that's also just Mexico. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GoatHunter 04/16/17 5:09:57 PM #36: |
Bio1590 posted...
I'm pretty sure they're saying the projected losses this year are $1.1B and next year it's $1.6B for $2.7B overall. That's the only way the numbers actually make sense. Imagine the rest. It's not like other countries feel better about this --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Unsugarized_Foo 04/16/17 5:11:29 PM #37: |
Webmaster4531 posted...
Unsugarized_Foo posted...How much do we gain from illegals deciding it's better to not come here with Trump walking around? But his attitude is effective GoatHunter posted... Unsugarized_Foo posted...How much do we gain from illegals deciding it's better to not come here with Trump walking around? I can't tell if you're trolling or actually actuallying... I like it But no,no I'm not. I'm talking about Trump's antics and it's effects on the economy with Mexicans as a whole. --- "All I have is my balls and my word, and I don't break them for anyone!"-Tony Montana ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GoatHunter 04/16/17 5:14:40 PM #38: |
Unsugarized_Foo posted...
Webmaster4531 posted...Unsugarized_Foo posted...How much do we gain from illegals deciding it's better to not come here with Trump walking around? Well TC posted an article about TOURISTS, who spend 1k a day. You made it about being illegals. What was your justification ? --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Unsugarized_Foo 04/16/17 5:20:25 PM #39: |
Just taking a step backwards and applying to a bigger picture. Not saying its right or wrong, just curious.
You got people from the same country both pulling out for the same reason and messing with different parts of the economy --- "All I have is my balls and my word, and I don't break them for anyone!"-Tony Montana ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Webmaster4531 04/16/17 5:44:03 PM #40: |
Unsugarized_Foo posted...
Just taking a step backwards and applying to a bigger picture. Not saying its right or wrong, just curious. Are Illegal immigrants more than just a boogie man scapegoat for votes? --- Ad Hominem. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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XmasPikachu 04/16/17 5:46:57 PM #41: |
Fax_Machine posted...
XmasPikachu posted...So we're losing 1.6 billions of revenue in just 2 years Why are you such a liar? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tourism_in_the_United_States#Attractions Highest number of non-immigrant admissions for tourists and for business purposes into the United States in fiscal year 2015: # 1 = Mexico - 19,175,345 # 2 = Canada = 11,671,122 # 3 = UK - 4,691,874 # 4 = Japan - 3,750,667 # 5 = Brazil - 2,383,822 # 13 = Spain - 953,969 # 14 = Colombia - 928,424 # 15 = Argentina - 765,576 # 17 = Venezuela - 745,097 Top 18 total = 69,025,896 That's right, Mexico is # 1, and it amounts to more legal tourist/businessmen visitors than # 3, # 4, # 5, # 13, # 14, #15 and # 17 TOGETHER. Many of these visitors spend 1k a day! Plus, do you really this the other hispanic countries (# 13, # 14, # 15 and # 17) are dying to visit? That's five countries in the top 18, sport. But yeah keep pretending this won't amount to even 1% ... Copied to Clipboard!
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XmasPikachu 04/16/17 5:50:09 PM #42: |
Unsugarized_Foo posted...
Just taking a step backwards and applying to a bigger picture. Not saying its right or wrong, just curious. yeah the bigger picture is that people like you conflate all hispanics with mexicans and all mexicans with illegals and criminals. Most of the illegals coming nowadays are actually from other central american countries too. There's your bigger picture, I hope Obamacare covers the muscle relaxants you will need after you pull your back with all of the mental gymnastics you're doing to justify racism. Why not just treat tourists like people instead? Nooooooo, that'd make too much sense ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Unsugarized_Foo 04/16/17 5:52:05 PM #43: |
Mmm, muscle relaxants
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XmasPikachu 04/16/17 5:53:09 PM #44: |
Unsugarized_Foo posted...
Mmm, muscle relaxants at least you're admitting to trolling now ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 04/16/17 5:53:57 PM #45: |
XmasPikachu posted...
Cesar Romero wait, what? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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mario2000 04/16/17 6:00:55 PM #46: |
Questionmarktarius posted...
XmasPikachu posted...Cesar Romero this --- Arrrr the SS Goku, Mighty fine boat... -fatmatt Hope Frieza doesn't chuck an Iceberg at the Goku, otherwise it's all over. -Nekoslash ... Copied to Clipboard!
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XmasPikachu 04/16/17 6:02:21 PM #47: |
mario2000 posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...XmasPikachu posted...Cesar Romero not sure I get it ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Unsugarized_Foo 04/16/17 6:03:28 PM #48: |
XmasPikachu posted...
Unsugarized_Foo posted...Mmm, muscle relaxants Nah, I just cant tell if youre being serious or not. If you got too much bitterness if you're trying to be serious. Sometimes I guess I try to imagine if I'm having a face to face conversation with someone when I'm online, so I react like I would if I heard it in person. In this case I feel like I'm being annoyingly attacked, so I just exit stage left and go on to something else --- "All I have is my balls and my word, and I don't break them for anyone!"-Tony Montana ... Copied to Clipboard!
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XmasPikachu 04/16/17 6:04:12 PM #49: |
Unsugarized_Foo posted...
XmasPikachu posted...Unsugarized_Foo posted...Mmm, muscle relaxants Good luck saying all hispanics are inherently illegal in real life... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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XmasPikachu 04/16/17 6:26:49 PM #50: |
No word from @The_Admiral? We need more alt-right opinions.
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thronedfire2 04/16/17 6:28:54 PM #51: |
Fax_Machine posted...
CowboyDan posted...TheVipaGTS posted...That was a quick Meltdown too...Did you run out of fruity pebbles this morning? if 800mil is so insignificant why can't we fund planned parenthood? --- I could see you, but I couldn't hear you You were holding your hat in the breeze Turning away from me In this moment you were stolen... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Unsugarized_Foo 04/16/17 6:47:25 PM #52: |
Cause the butts in power say no
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