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Skye Reynolds 04/16/17 8:18:08 PM #1:	Power Rangers? Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles III? The Coming Out of Their Shells Tour? Or was it nothing? Had it just simply run its course? <cite>Skye Reynolds posted [p:877328367] in What reall... [t:75246050]...</cite> <quote>Power Rangers? Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles III? The Coming Out of Their Shells Tour? Or was it nothing? Had it just simply run its course?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FlashOfLight 04/19/17 2:03:06 AM #2:	The series was going into repeats against the X-Men when it was started as a series with new episodes. Then the series still coincided with new episodes with the X-Men, but it was already seen as old and tired compared to the newer X-Men. Plus, the reliance of the Turtles on its catch phrases didn't play out very well into the later years when those phrases were already seen as corny. The movies didn't help to bring people up on it as well, and some kids did grow up a bit during those years, so they equally saw the stuff with the tour as for younger kids, and thus also corny. Then, along with that, they began to change the time slots, so that didn't help either. So at least 4 factors were taking place all at the same time: X-Men popularity, kids growing up, changed time slots, and the perception of it being corny. --- Eine grosse sportliche Veranstaltung, Die Meister, Die Besten, Les Grandes Equipes https://www.scribd.com/document/340746101/Arguments <cite>FlashOfLight posted [p:877477933] in What reall... [t:75246050]...</cite> <quote>The series was going into repeats against the X-Men when it was started as a series with new episodes. Then the series still coincided with new episodes with the X-Men, but it was already seen as old and tired compared to the newer X-Men. Plus, the reliance of the Turtles on its catch phrases didn't play out very well into the later years when those phrases were already seen as corny. The movies didn't help to bring people up on it as well, and some kids did grow up a bit during those years, so they equally saw the stuff with the tour as for younger kids, and thus also corny. Then, along with that, they began to change the time slots, so that didn't help either. So at least 4 factors were taking place all at the same time: X-Men popularity, kids growing up, changed time slots, and the perception of it being corny.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gamer99z 04/19/17 2:04:06 AM #3:	Vanilla Ice --- "You need to lay off the peanut-butthurt and u-jelly sandwiches" - Neon Octopus <cite>Gamer99z posted [p:877477972] in What reall... [t:75246050]...</cite> <quote>Vanilla Ice</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vertania 04/19/17 2:07:21 AM #4:	The cartoon wasn't actually that good. It helped get the brand into the mainstream and lead to some great games and probably the most badass toys of the 90's, but like FlashOfLight said, they probably grew out of the cartoon. <cite>Vertania posted [p:877478077] in What reall... [t:75246050]...</cite> <quote>The cartoon wasn't actually that good. It helped get the brand into the mainstream and lead to some great games and probably the most badass toys of the 90's, but like FlashOfLight said, they probably grew out of the cartoon.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Taharqa_ 04/19/17 2:09:19 AM #5:	People just grew out of the TMNTs in the 90s. The first TMNT movie dark and gritty compared to the sequels, I still love it. --- "If you want to move fast, practice slowly...if you want to move like lightning, practice in stillness." <cite>Taharqa_ posted [p:877478149] in What reall... [t:75246050]...</cite> <quote>People just grew out of the TMNTs in the 90s. The first TMNT movie dark and gritty compared to the sequels, I still love it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kingdrake2 04/19/17 2:09:59 AM #6:	Vertania posted... The cartoon wasn't actually that good. It helped get the brand into the mainstream and lead to some great games and probably the most badass toys of the 90's, but like FlashOfLight said, they probably grew out of the cartoon. original series was the best :( didn't watch the later seasons (the first 3-4 of them) was all i got. --- http://psnprofiles.com/kingdrake2 current progress of earned trophy's #standwithdoge- The_Doge <cite>kingdrake2 posted [p:877478167] in What reall... [t:75246050]...</cite> <quote><cite>Vertania posted...</cite> <quote>The cartoon wasn't actually that good. It helped get the brand into the mainstream and lead to some great games and probably the most badass toys of the 90's, but like FlashOfLight said, they probably grew out of the cartoon.</quote> original series was the best :( didn't watch the later seasons (the first 3-4 of them) was all i got.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheoryzC 04/19/17 2:15:13 AM #7:	Much better cartoons came out --- This is where my sigs suppose to be. <cite>TheoryzC posted [p:877478334] in What reall... [t:75246050]...</cite> <quote>Much better cartoons came out</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wolverinev2 04/19/17 2:17:18 AM #8:	People just grew out of it. I liked it as a kid, but even then realized how corny was when I younger. Plus the overload of Ninja Turtle toys was starting to get rivaled by X-men and Power Ranger toys. --- It's far better to be alive than to be dead <cite>wolverinev2 posted [p:877478398] in What reall... [t:75246050]...</cite> <quote>People just grew out of it. I liked it as a kid, but even then realized how corny was when I younger. Plus the overload of Ninja Turtle toys was starting to get rivaled by X-men and Power Ranger toys.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
legendarylemur 04/19/17 2:17:38 AM #9:	It wasn't really popular outside the US. Japan also started pumping higher quality shit out, and Pokemon and Yu-Gi-Oh also happened --- "Iwata was awesome" - Mr. Nintendo dinglebutt <cite>legendarylemur posted [p:877478404] in What reall... [t:75246050]...</cite> <quote>It wasn't really popular outside the US. Japan also started pumping higher quality shit out, and Pokemon and Yu-Gi-Oh also happened</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vertania 04/19/17 2:17:42 AM #10:	kingdrake2 posted... original series was the best :( didn't watch the later seasons (the first 3-4 of them) was all i got. As a kid, yeah, but when was the last time you went back and rewatched them? <cite>Vertania posted [p:877478405] in What reall... [t:75246050]...</cite> <quote><cite>kingdrake2 posted...</cite> <quote>original series was the best :( didn't watch the later seasons (the first 3-4 of them) was all i got.</quote> As a kid, yeah, but when was the last time you went back and rewatched them?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lightsasori 04/19/17 2:17:57 AM #11:	It didn't age well. --- "Yare yare daze" ~ Jotaro Kujo "Children are pure, they know who's the strongest." ~ MaskDeSmith <cite>Lightsasori posted [p:877478415] in What reall... [t:75246050]...</cite> <quote>It didn't age well.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
St0rmFury 04/19/17 2:21:00 AM #12:	I had one TMNT toy where Leo can transform into a fire engine. The transformation was a bitch to pull off. --- "Average Joe" is a trolling term since it's completely an opinion. "Overachieving" is also an opinion. - SBAllen (Hellhole: 52458377) <cite>St0rmFury posted [p:877478526] in What reall... [t:75246050]...</cite> <quote>I had one TMNT toy where Leo can transform into a fire engine. The transformation was a bitch to pull off.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FlashOfLight 04/19/17 2:24:52 AM #13:	The infamous Oprah Winfrey Show appearance did not help things at all. Can't be mentioned enough when this type of topic pops up, but for those who haven't seen it yet - this was a hard slap to the franchise - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBeIX7bpefQ I mean, to put this in perspective, to get the whole scope of it, the series started out in 1987, 1990 was still technically the year they hit it big time - and the series would still last until 1996, which is quite a long run by any standard, but the movies themselves came out in 1990, 1991, and 1993, while the X-Men came later in 1993, but for the kids who were fans of the series - and witnessed the Oprah Winfrey show, even though they would see both movies later on - this was a psychological mind-bleep. They literally presented the Turtles, who otherwise kids still thought to be cool at that time, literally like a boy band Rock group who were going on tour, and it's like if you were a fan of the cartoon show - where did THAT come from all of a sudden? It butchered the perception, and made a mockery out of it, that's why some kids just couldn't stomach it anymore and left the franchise altogether. --- Eine grosse sportliche Veranstaltung, Die Meister, Die Besten, Les Grandes Equipes https://www.scribd.com/document/340746101/Arguments <cite>FlashOfLight posted [p:877478633] in What reall... [t:75246050]...</cite> <quote>The infamous Oprah Winfrey Show appearance did not help things at all. Can't be mentioned enough when this type of topic pops up, but for those who haven't seen it yet - this was a hard slap to the franchise - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBeIX7bpefQ I mean, to put this in perspective, to get the whole scope of it, the series started out in 1987, 1990 was still technically the year they hit it big time - and the series would still last until 1996, which is quite a long run by any standard, but the movies themselves came out in 1990, 1991, and 1993, while the X-Men came later in 1993, but for the kids who were fans of the series - and witnessed the Oprah Winfrey show, even though they would see both movies later on - this was a psychological mind-bleep. They literally presented the Turtles, who otherwise kids still thought to be cool at that time, literally like a boy band Rock group who were going on tour, and it's like if you were a fan of the cartoon show - where did THAT come from all of a sudden? It butchered the perception, and made a mockery out of it, that's why some kids just couldn't stomach it anymore and left the franchise altogether.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wolverinev2 04/19/17 2:27:12 AM #14:	I remember that, the look on the kids face was priceless. It was like "I am not amused.. Where are the turtles?" and the other kid was like "Welp, my childhood is dead.. =/" --- It's far better to be alive than to be dead <cite>wolverinev2 posted [p:877478701] in What reall... [t:75246050]...</cite> <quote>I remember that, the look on the kids face was priceless. It was like "I am not amused.. Where are the turtles?" and the other kid was like "Welp, my childhood is dead.. =/"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
fusespliff 04/19/17 2:34:40 AM #15:	legendarylemur posted... It wasn't really popular outside the US. Japan also started pumping higher quality shit out, and Pokemon and Yu-Gi-Oh also happened Turtles was huge in Europe as well. What are you basing the claim on that it wasn't? Also, Pokemon and Yu-Gi-Oh got popular long after the original TMNT cartoon ended. Yu-Gi-Oh didn't even reach the west til 2000 --- ... <cite>fusespliff posted [p:877478904] in What reall... [t:75246050]...</cite> <quote><cite>legendarylemur posted...</cite> <quote>It wasn't really popular outside the US. Japan also started pumping higher quality shit out, and Pokemon and Yu-Gi-Oh also happened</quote> Turtles was huge in Europe as well. What are you basing the claim on that it wasn't? Also, Pokemon and Yu-Gi-Oh got popular long after the original TMNT cartoon ended. Yu-Gi-Oh didn't even reach the west til 2000</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
legendarylemur 04/19/17 4:05:03 AM #16:	fusespliff posted... legendarylemur posted... It wasn't really popular outside the US. Japan also started pumping higher quality shit out, and Pokemon and Yu-Gi-Oh also happened Turtles was huge in Europe as well. What are you basing the claim on that it wasn't? Also, Pokemon and Yu-Gi-Oh got popular long after the original TMNT cartoon ended. Yu-Gi-Oh didn't even reach the west til 2000 In Asia, nobody talked about the turtles. I only found out about them when I moved to America. I can see Europe liking it though. Pokemon was mid 90's, at least for me, and yeah YGO was late 90's. --- "Iwata was awesome" - Mr. Nintendo dinglebutt <cite>legendarylemur posted [p:877481018] in What reall... [t:75246050]...</cite> <quote><cite>fusespliff posted...</cite> <quote><cite>legendarylemur posted...</cite> <quote>It wasn't really popular outside the US. Japan also started pumping higher quality shit out, and Pokemon and Yu-Gi-Oh also happened</quote> Turtles was huge in Europe as well. What are you basing the claim on that it wasn't? Also, Pokemon and Yu-Gi-Oh got popular long after the original TMNT cartoon ended. Yu-Gi-Oh didn't even reach the west til 2000</quote> In Asia, nobody talked about the turtles. I only found out about them when I moved to America. I can see Europe liking it though. Pokemon was mid 90's, at least for me, and yeah YGO was late 90's.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dash_Harber 04/19/17 4:07:25 AM #17:	Oversaturation. They were everywhere for so long that they became associated with a specific age group in a specific era, and the market was flooded with knock offs. It was just too much. <cite>Dash_Harber posted [p:877481064] in What reall... [t:75246050]...</cite> <quote>Oversaturation. They were everywhere for so long that they became associated with a specific age group in a specific era, and the market was flooded with knock offs. It was just too much.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GhettoFlip 04/19/17 4:14:11 AM #18:	legendarylemur posted... fusespliff posted... legendarylemur posted... It wasn't really popular outside the US. Japan also started pumping higher quality shit out, and Pokemon and Yu-Gi-Oh also happened Turtles was huge in Europe as well. What are you basing the claim on that it wasn't? Also, Pokemon and Yu-Gi-Oh got popular long after the original TMNT cartoon ended. Yu-Gi-Oh didn't even reach the west til 2000 In Asia, nobody talked about the turtles. I only found out about them when I moved to America. I can see Europe liking it though. Pokemon was mid 90's, at least for me, and yeah YGO was late 90's. TMNT was huge in the Philippines --- #linning <cite>GhettoFlip posted [p:877481188] in What reall... [t:75246050]...</cite> <quote><cite>legendarylemur posted...</cite> <quote><cite>fusespliff posted...</cite> <quote><cite>legendarylemur posted...</cite> <quote>It wasn't really popular outside the US. Japan also started pumping higher quality shit out, and Pokemon and Yu-Gi-Oh also happened</quote> Turtles was huge in Europe as well. What are you basing the claim on that it wasn't? Also, Pokemon and Yu-Gi-Oh got popular long after the original TMNT cartoon ended. Yu-Gi-Oh didn't even reach the west til 2000</quote> In Asia, nobody talked about the turtles. I only found out about them when I moved to America. I can see Europe liking it though. Pokemon was mid 90's, at least for me, and yeah YGO was late 90's.</quote> TMNT was huge in the Philippines</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ModLogic 04/19/17 4:27:42 AM #19:	weebs trying to downplay the GLOBAL success of tmnt --- http://i.imgur.com/hEL2qQYh.jpg http://i.imgur.com/lbSi0U3.png http://i.imgur.com/FA2GxDS.jpg http://i.imgur.com/xaRYKZM.png http://i.imgur.com/ZngbqJn.jpg <cite>ModLogic posted [p:877481430] in What reall... [t:75246050]...</cite> <quote>weebs trying to downplay the GLOBAL success of tmnt</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RickyTheBAWSE 04/19/17 4:46:35 AM #20:	would anybody watch a PG-13(that borderlines R) spin-off movie about the early days of Oroku Saki on his rise to eventually becoming the Shredder? I would. I'd watch a PG-13 Casey Jones movie that was nearly as brutal as Kick Ass, and without the R-rated language, too. --- Never let those intent on misunderstanding you be the narrator to your story! BAWSE! <cite>RickyTheBAWSE posted [p:877481775] in What reall... [t:75246050]...</cite> <quote>would anybody watch a PG-13(that borderlines R) spin-off movie about the early days of Oroku Saki on his rise to eventually becoming the Shredder? I would. I'd watch a PG-13 Casey Jones movie that was nearly as brutal as Kick Ass, and without the R-rated language, too.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kisai 04/19/17 6:14:25 AM #21:	legendarylemur posted... It wasn't really popular outside the US. Japan also started pumping higher quality shit out, and Pokemon and Yu-Gi-Oh also happened That was way after the Turtles stopped being relevant, though. --- WHO MODS THE MODERATORS? <cite>Kisai posted [p:877483375] in What reall... [t:75246050]...</cite> <quote><cite>legendarylemur posted...</cite> <quote>It wasn't really popular outside the US. Japan also started pumping higher quality shit out, and Pokemon and Yu-Gi-Oh also happened</quote> That was way after the Turtles stopped being relevant, though.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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