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UnfairRepresent 04/18/17 3:06:00 PM #103:	prettyprincess posted... the first sentence provides the path for interpretation based on the fact that there are observable stages of drunkenness Oh bullshit. Every stage of "drunkenness" is still drunk and that's all he said. I believe the most important sentence to his purpose for expressing that is "it's not OK unless she can affirmatively consent," and that takes precedent over the rest But he is directly saying any woman drunk cannot "affirmatively" consent. the vitriol of the phrasing exists to draw discourse to the subject and your literal reading of it diminishes the contextual validity for the cases where it can indeed help, but unlike darkman's legitimate point about clarity on this interpretable nature of 'drunk' to help stifle abuse of systematic punishment, you appear to merely find interest in semantic entrapment and outing a mispositing of position "I think this" "I agree with that." "Why do you agree with that?" "OH STOP TAKING WHAT I SAY LITERALLY AND PRETEND I SAID SOMETHInG ELSE!" Jesus christ your entire stance and attitude is stupid. You're literally arguing that we should not listen to or engage you and just decide for ourselves what you mean. No say what you fucking mean or fuck off. That's life Charlie. Either you agree with what Biden said or you don't. You don't get to change what he said and still say you agree, that way madness/Christianity lies. I don't get why you don't have the balls to either say you disagree and take an anti-Biden stance or say you agree and take a very firm stance on drunk sex. Taking both stances and neither stance and then getting angry at people talking to you is just utterly stupid and makes me want to slap you like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0GW0Vnr9Yc --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. http://i.imgur.com/45yVrRr.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:877439980] in Ex Vice-Pr... [t:75247189]...</cite> <quote><cite>prettyprincess posted...</cite> <quote>the first sentence provides the path for interpretation based on the fact that there are observable stages of drunkenness</quote> Oh bullshit. Every stage of "drunkenness" is still drunk and that's all he said. <quote>I believe the most important sentence to his purpose for expressing that is "it's not OK unless she can affirmatively consent," and that takes precedent over the rest</quote> But he is directly saying any woman drunk cannot "affirmatively" consent. <quote> the vitriol of the phrasing exists to draw discourse to the subject and your literal reading of it diminishes the contextual validity for the cases where it can indeed help, but unlike darkman's legitimate point about clarity on this interpretable nature of 'drunk' to help stifle abuse of systematic punishment, you appear to merely find interest in semantic entrapment and outing a mispositing of position</quote> "I think this" "I agree with that." "Why do you agree with that?" "OH STOP TAKING WHAT I SAY LITERALLY AND PRETEND I SAID SOMETHInG ELSE!" Jesus christ your entire stance and attitude is stupid. You're literally arguing that we should not listen to or engage you and just decide for ourselves what you mean. No say what you fucking mean or fuck off. That's life Charlie. Either you agree with what Biden said or you don't. You don't get to change what he said and still say you agree, that way madness/Christianity lies. I don't get why you don't have the balls to either say you disagree and take an anti-Biden stance or say you agree and take a very firm stance on drunk sex. Taking both stances and neither stance and then getting angry at people talking to you is just utterly stupid and makes me want to slap you like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0GW0Vnr9Yc</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sada_Pop 04/18/17 3:07:20 PM #104:	k darkfire posted... A woman drives drunk and kills 3 people-shes a criminal A woman gets drunk and has sex with a guy-she';s a victim Wtf kinda logic is this? If a woman is drunk I have every right to have sex with her. I'm not going to wait for her to sober. Dot dot dot --- People would have you believe that the accusation of racism is more offensive than ACTUAL racism. <cite>Sada_Pop posted [p:877440053] in Ex Vice-Pr... [t:75247189]...</cite> <quote><cite>k darkfire posted...</cite> <quote>A woman drives drunk and kills 3 people-shes a criminal A woman gets drunk and has sex with a guy-she';s a victim Wtf kinda logic is this? If a woman is drunk I have every right to have sex with her. I'm not going to wait for her to sober.</quote> Dot dot dot</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MakoReizei 04/18/17 3:35:47 PM #105:	Biden's a creepy old dude. Not gonna be lectured by one trying to get brownie points from sjws --- http://i.imgur.com/vvAoIk0.gif <cite>MakoReizei posted [p:877441627] in Ex Vice-Pr... [t:75247189]...</cite> <quote>Biden's a creepy old dude. Not gonna be lectured by one trying to get brownie points from sjws</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darkman124 04/18/17 3:41:07 PM #106:	i have to emphasize that the title IX director had to put out an official statement that they created gender discrimination by treating any drunk party as incapable of consenting, rather than incapacitated by alcohol it is extremely important to make the distinction between 'cannot legally drive' and 'cannot legally consent' because the two are worlds apart --- And when the hourglass has run out, eternity asks you about only one thing: whether you have lived in despair or not. <cite>Darkman124 posted [p:877441912] in Ex Vice-Pr... [t:75247189]...</cite> <quote>i have to emphasize that the title IX director had to put out an official statement that they created gender discrimination by treating any drunk party as incapable of consenting, rather than incapacitated by alcohol it is extremely important to make the distinction between 'cannot legally drive' and 'cannot legally consent' because the two are worlds apart</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AltonBrownFan 04/18/17 3:41:50 PM #108:	Someone summarize this topic please --- Posted with GameRaven 3.2 <cite>AltonBrownFan posted [p:877441950] in Ex Vice-Pr... [t:75247189]...</cite> <quote>Someone summarize this topic please</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cj_WlLL_VVlN 04/18/17 3:42:08 PM #109:	I mean he's 100% right. I've never had anything get physical (tossed a guy out of the bar once but he unfortunately didn't swing on me) but I've given rides, informed bartenders, played middle man to keep people safe. Im also not talking about people that are drunk because drunk men/women banging is fine. Im talking fall over, slurring, not making sense drunk. It's scummy to let guys try and take advantage of people. Same could be said in reverse as well. It's not sexist I just haven't seen it. --- Give me your tired, your poor,Your masses yearning to breathe free,The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.Send these, the homeless, tempest tossed, to me. <cite>Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted [p:877441977] in Ex Vice-Pr... [t:75247189]...</cite> <quote>I mean he's 100% right. I've never had anything get physical (tossed a guy out of the bar once but he unfortunately didn't swing on me) but I've given rides, informed bartenders, played middle man to keep people safe. Im also not talking about people that are drunk because drunk men/women banging is fine. Im talking fall over, slurring, not making sense drunk. It's scummy to let guys try and take advantage of people. Same could be said in reverse as well. It's not sexist I just haven't seen it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
prettyprincess 04/18/17 3:42:19 PM #110:	UnfairRepresent posted... Oh bullshit. Every stage of "drunkenness" is still drunk and that's all he said. he didn't clarify a threshold, hence why interpretation exists, and I previously noted his own example of having a woman "taken," showing lack of autonomy, while he did not provide context for a lesser situation You're literally arguing that we should not listen to or engage no, I'm literally saying it should be engaged and discussed you're the one exhibiting a desire not to engage the statement, you are trying to poll out agree/disagree minus any contextual basis and ignoring connotation, despite that I expounded my thoughts on the phrasing, since that doesn't really lead into more rhetorical questioning to feed your interest sorry that semantic arguments don't work out when fleshed discourse follows from simple statements instead No say what you fucking mean or fuck off. That's life Charlie. Either you agree with what Biden said or you don't. You don't get to change what he said and still say you agree, that way madness/Christianity lies. I don't get why you don't have the balls to either say you disagree and take an anti-Biden stance or say you agree and take a very firm stance on drunk sex I said what I mean in the countless other posts you didn't quote since I addressed the root issue and not Biden's statement verbatim I have no interest in Biden's semantic control, believe that the intonation of his words was purposefully emotionally motivated, and don't plan to post per your attempts at regulated conversation what he said wasn't changed, it was explored he was campaigning against an issue to incite response, and his brevity is to be expected, whereas we have the ability to take it, develop, and consider those implications and the situational nature of sexual assault and consent that's both more important and interesting perhaps if you only wanted a 'do you agree/disagree' topic you should have added a poll and more overtly asked?? then getting angry at people talking to you this is invented I like people talking to me, I enjoy conversation I am sorry that me contesting your attempt to stifle context incites a desire for physical violence :^) --- And in an infinite regress, tell me, why is the pain of birth lighter borne than the pain of death? http://www.last.fm/user/followthegospel <cite>prettyprincess posted [p:877441988] in Ex Vice-Pr... [t:75247189]...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote>Oh bullshit. Every stage of "drunkenness" is still drunk and that's all he said.</quote> he didn't clarify a threshold, hence why interpretation exists, and I previously noted his own example of having a woman "taken," showing lack of autonomy, while he did not provide context for a lesser situation <quote>You're literally arguing that we should not listen to or engage</quote> no, I'm literally saying it should be engaged and discussed you're the one exhibiting a desire not to engage the statement, you are trying to poll out agree/disagree minus any contextual basis and ignoring connotation, despite that I expounded my thoughts on the phrasing, since that doesn't really lead into more rhetorical questioning to feed your interest sorry that semantic arguments don't work out when fleshed discourse follows from simple statements instead <quote>No say what you fucking mean or fuck off. That's life Charlie. Either you agree with what Biden said or you don't. You don't get to change what he said and still say you agree, that way madness/Christianity lies. I don't get why you don't have the balls to either say you disagree and take an anti-Biden stance or say you agree and take a very firm stance on drunk sex</quote> I said what I mean in the countless other posts you didn't quote since I addressed the root issue and not Biden's statement verbatim I have no interest in Biden's semantic control, believe that the intonation of his words was purposefully emotionally motivated, and don't plan to post per your attempts at regulated conversation what he said wasn't changed, it was explored he was campaigning against an issue to incite response, and his brevity is to be expected, whereas we have the ability to take it, develop, and consider those implications and the situational nature of sexual assault and consent that's both more important and interesting perhaps if you only wanted a 'do you agree/disagree' topic you should have added a poll and more overtly asked?? <quote>then getting angry at people talking to you</quote> this is invented I like people talking to me, I enjoy conversation I am sorry that me contesting your attempt to stifle context incites a desire for physical violence :^)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 04/18/17 3:45:33 PM #111:	AltonBrownFan posted... Someone summarize this topic please "Biden says it's rape to have sex with a drunk woman" "I agree" "Oh interesting, why do you agree?" "OMG why are you listening to what I am saying! clearly I agree with biden but only if we pretend he said something else." I wish I was kidding v_V --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. http://i.imgur.com/45yVrRr.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:877442171] in Ex Vice-Pr... [t:75247189]...</cite> <quote><cite>AltonBrownFan posted...</cite> <quote>Someone summarize this topic please</quote> "Biden says it's rape to have sex with a drunk woman" "I agree" "Oh interesting, why do you agree?" "OMG why are you listening to what I am saying! clearly I agree with biden but only if we pretend he said something else." I wish I was kidding v_V</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 04/18/17 4:07:36 PM #113:	Asherlee10 posted... but I feel like what's being conveyed is speaking out about the more obvious incapacitated people. I don't agree because then that's not a controversial statement and as such he wouldn't be annoucing it. Yet alone wording it as drunk. "don't let people rape unconcious bodies in front of you." doesn't need a movement in the US Asherlee10 posted... All in all, I think that some users are being purposely coy and trying to think of very specific scenarios that make what's being conveyed (in general) mucky. Not saying those scenarios don't happen, they do and we should talk about them, but let's not dismiss the general message of "yo, that dude can't even stand, I should make sure he's going to be alright." But the point is that wasnt the general message. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. http://i.imgur.com/45yVrRr.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:877443409] in Ex Vice-Pr... [t:75247189]...</cite> <quote><cite>Asherlee10 posted...</cite> <quote> but I feel like what's being conveyed is speaking out about the more obvious incapacitated people. </quote> I don't agree because then that's not a controversial statement and as such he wouldn't be annoucing it. Yet alone wording it as drunk. "don't let people rape unconcious bodies in front of you." doesn't need a movement in the US <cite>Asherlee10 posted...</cite> <quote> All in all, I think that some users are being purposely coy and trying to think of very specific scenarios that make what's being conveyed (in general) mucky. Not saying those scenarios don't happen, they do and we should talk about them, but let's not dismiss the general message of "yo, that dude can't even stand, I should make sure he's going to be alright."</quote> But the point is that wasnt the general message.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MangaFan462 04/18/17 4:11:07 PM #114:	His own example is flawed, if both the male and female are going off together and they're obviously smiling, in high spirits, whatever, you're not just gonna go full Mohammed and try to intervene, that would be sociopathic behavior. --- Posted using GameFlux https://i.imgur.com/Il34cSX.jpg / https://i.redd.it/zwfbqetu2b8y.jpg <cite>MangaFan462 posted [p:877443631] in Ex Vice-Pr... [t:75247189]...</cite> <quote>His own example is flawed, if both the male and female are going off together and they're obviously smiling, in high spirits, whatever, you're not just gonna go full Mohammed and try to intervene, that would be sociopathic behavior.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Darkman124 04/18/17 4:16:51 PM #116:	Asherlee10 posted... Darkman124 posted... the verbaige 'drunk' rather than 'incapacitated' I don't disagree and I think that he could have been way more specific. On that note, I think a certain sentiment is being conveyed that is not so vague. There are certainly grey areas, but I feel like what's being conveyed is speaking out about the more obvious incapacitated people. I'll use a male instead of a female for a scenario. If I go to a house party and I see that there a very incapacitated young man (barely awake, can't walk, etc.) being led to a bedroom by a group of girls, I would certainly ask what's going on. Probably wouldn't be accusatory and would ask something like, "Hey, are y'all taking him to a safe bedroom go lay down since he's passed out?" All in all, I think that some users are being purposely coy and trying to think of very specific scenarios that make what's being conveyed (in general) mucky. Not saying those scenarios don't happen, they do and we should talk about them, but let's not dismiss the general message of "yo, that dude can't even stand, I should make sure he's going to be alright." Darkman124 posted... some people got expelled from university for putting the garbage in the wrong place WTF? the problem is university tribunals were expelling male students accused of rape with the evidence being 'female had consumed alcohol' not 'female was incapacitated by alcohol'. the situation was so obviously not rape that the title IX director had to weigh in and call them out for applying a discriminatory standard and directly stated he would have ruled differently from the tribunals had he been the one running the case. that's how it dovetails into your analogy and i think it is why people are harping so much on the importance of being specific --- And when the hourglass has run out, eternity asks you about only one thing: whether you have lived in despair or not. <cite>Darkman124 posted [p:877443980] in Ex Vice-Pr... [t:75247189]...</cite> <quote><cite>Asherlee10 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darkman124 posted...</cite> <quote>the verbaige 'drunk' rather than 'incapacitated' </quote> I don't disagree and I think that he could have been way more specific. On that note, I think a certain sentiment is being conveyed that is not so vague. There are certainly grey areas, but I feel like what's being conveyed is speaking out about the more obvious incapacitated people. I'll use a male instead of a female for a scenario. If I go to a house party and I see that there a very incapacitated young man (barely awake, can't walk, etc.) being led to a bedroom by a group of girls, I would certainly ask what's going on. Probably wouldn't be accusatory and would ask something like, "Hey, are y'all taking him to a safe bedroom go lay down since he's passed out?" All in all, I think that some users are being purposely coy and trying to think of very specific scenarios that make what's being conveyed (in general) mucky. Not saying those scenarios don't happen, they do and we should talk about them, but let's not dismiss the general message of "yo, that dude can't even stand, I should make sure he's going to be alright." <cite>Darkman124 posted...</cite> <quote>some people got expelled from university for putting the garbage in the wrong place </quote> WTF?</quote> the problem is university tribunals were expelling male students accused of rape with the evidence being 'female had consumed alcohol' not 'female was incapacitated by alcohol'. the situation was so obviously not rape that the title IX director had to weigh in and call them out for applying a discriminatory standard and directly stated he would have ruled differently from the tribunals had he been the one running the case. that's how it dovetails into your analogy and i think it is why people are harping so much on the importance of being specific</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Darkman124 04/18/17 4:22:30 PM #118:	one of the nice things about it is this is the rare chance where being specific helps victims of false accusation without hurting victims of rape normally the situation is treated as zero sum --- And when the hourglass has run out, eternity asks you about only one thing: whether you have lived in despair or not. <cite>Darkman124 posted [p:877444326] in Ex Vice-Pr... [t:75247189]...</cite> <quote>one of the nice things about it is this is the rare chance where being specific helps victims of false accusation without hurting victims of rape normally the situation is treated as zero sum</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MangaFan462 04/18/17 4:27:42 PM #119:	jborgan posted... Lorenzo_2003 posted... Joe Biden can go fuck off. He's not the vice president anymore. What, he wants men to be vigilantes now? Fuck that shit. Every time I turn on the radio, watch a Youtube video involving feminists, or watch a Star Wars movie, there's a woman telling me she don't need no man. Go get Beyonce to fight Biden's battles. I'm already doing my part by not raping anyone. Yes, expecting men to be decent people and do the right thing. How dare he. What about expecting women to be responsible for their actions? Is that sexist? --- Posted using GameFlux https://i.imgur.com/Il34cSX.jpg / https://i.redd.it/zwfbqetu2b8y.jpg <cite>MangaFan462 posted [p:877444643] in Ex Vice-Pr... [t:75247189]...</cite> <quote><cite>jborgan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Lorenzo_2003 posted...</cite> <quote>Joe Biden can go fuck off. He's not the vice president anymore. What, he wants men to be vigilantes now? Fuck that shit. Every time I turn on the radio, watch a Youtube video involving feminists, or watch a Star Wars movie, there's a woman telling me she don't need no man. Go get Beyonce to fight Biden's battles. I'm already doing my part by not raping anyone.</quote> Yes, expecting men to be decent people and do the right thing. How dare he.</quote> What about expecting women to be responsible for their actions? Is that sexist?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darkman124 04/18/17 4:28:36 PM #120:	MangaFan462 posted... What about expecting women to be responsible for their actions? Is that sexist? please be specific about what you expect women to be responsible for --- And when the hourglass has run out, eternity asks you about only one thing: whether you have lived in despair or not. <cite>Darkman124 posted [p:877444705] in Ex Vice-Pr... [t:75247189]...</cite> <quote><cite>MangaFan462 posted...</cite> <quote> What about expecting women to be responsible for their actions? Is that sexist?</quote> please be specific about what you expect women to be responsible for</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gamepimp12 04/18/17 4:39:20 PM #121:	AltonBrownFan posted... Someone summarize this topic please People arguing the difference between being buzzed and shitfaces in relation to the word drunk So basically people arguing semantics for 120 post --- we rich now but used to be slaves,we pushing whips now we used to be whipped,rockin chains when we used to be in 'em <cite>gamepimp12 posted [p:877445434] in Ex Vice-Pr... [t:75247189]...</cite> <quote><cite>AltonBrownFan posted...</cite> <quote>Someone summarize this topic please</quote> People arguing the difference between being buzzed and shitfaces in relation to the word drunk So basically people arguing semantics for 120 post</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cj_WlLL_VVlN 04/18/17 4:40:46 PM #122:	Why are you people making it so complicated. Any reasonable person can understand consent and understand the difference between buzzed/drunk/whatever you want to call it and hammered mess. It's like you guys are arguing semantics for the purpose of arguing. Everyone knows what he's saying and everyone knows the difference. --- Give me your tired, your poor,Your masses yearning to breathe free,The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.Send these, the homeless, tempest tossed, to me. <cite>Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted [p:877445537] in Ex Vice-Pr... [t:75247189]...</cite> <quote>Why are you people making it so complicated. Any reasonable person can understand consent and understand the difference between buzzed/drunk/whatever you want to call it and hammered mess. It's like you guys are arguing semantics for the purpose of arguing. Everyone knows what he's saying and everyone knows the difference.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darkman124 04/18/17 4:41:41 PM #123:	Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted... Why are you people making it so complicated. Any reasonable person can understand consent and understand the difference between buzzed/drunk/whatever you want to call it and hammered mess. It's like you guys are arguing semantics for the purpose of arguing. Everyone knows what he's saying and everyone knows the difference. because the people on university tribuals tasked to actually judge this don't understand it --- And when the hourglass has run out, eternity asks you about only one thing: whether you have lived in despair or not. <cite>Darkman124 posted [p:877445598] in Ex Vice-Pr... [t:75247189]...</cite> <quote><cite>Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...</cite> <quote>Why are you people making it so complicated. Any reasonable person can understand consent and understand the difference between buzzed/drunk/whatever you want to call it and hammered mess. It's like you guys are arguing semantics for the purpose of arguing. Everyone knows what he's saying and everyone knows the difference.</quote> because the people on university tribuals tasked to actually judge this don't understand it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gamepimp12 04/18/17 4:43:59 PM #124:	Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted... Why are you people making it so complicated. Any reasonable person can understand consent and understand the difference between buzzed/drunk/whatever you want to call it and hammered mess. It's like you guys are arguing semantics for the purpose of arguing. Everyone knows what he's saying and everyone knows the difference. Look who they TC is why are you surprised they're arguing to argue --- we rich now but used to be slaves,we pushing whips now we used to be whipped,rockin chains when we used to be in 'em <cite>gamepimp12 posted [p:877445754] in Ex Vice-Pr... [t:75247189]...</cite> <quote><cite>Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...</cite> <quote>Why are you people making it so complicated. Any reasonable person can understand consent and understand the difference between buzzed/drunk/whatever you want to call it and hammered mess. It's like you guys are arguing semantics for the purpose of arguing. Everyone knows what he's saying and everyone knows the difference.</quote> Look who they TC is why are you surprised they're arguing to argue</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Axiom 04/18/17 4:45:00 PM #125:	gamepimp12 posted... Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted... Why are you people making it so complicated. Any reasonable person can understand consent and understand the difference between buzzed/drunk/whatever you want to call it and hammered mess. It's like you guys are arguing semantics for the purpose of arguing. Everyone knows what he's saying and everyone knows the difference. Look who they TC is why are you surprised they're arguing to argue This. Unfair will nitpick anything as long as it means he can draw out the argument <cite>Axiom posted [p:877445820] in Ex Vice-Pr... [t:75247189]...</cite> <quote><cite>gamepimp12 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...</cite> <quote>Why are you people making it so complicated. Any reasonable person can understand consent and understand the difference between buzzed/drunk/whatever you want to call it and hammered mess. It's like you guys are arguing semantics for the purpose of arguing. Everyone knows what he's saying and everyone knows the difference.</quote> Look who they TC is why are you surprised they're arguing to argue</quote> This. Unfair will nitpick anything as long as it means he can draw out the argument</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 04/18/17 4:49:16 PM #126:	Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted... Why are you people making it so complicated. Any reasonable person can understand consent and understand the difference between buzzed/drunk/whatever you want to call it and hammered mess. It's like you guys are arguing semantics for the purpose of arguing. Everyone knows what he's saying and everyone knows the difference. "Everyone understands this already. we all know the difference." Then why is Biden doing speeches about it? Why is it international news? It's undeniably clear that people are not on one page about this, that's been made obvious by the fact among the people agreeing with Biden half are literally pretending he said something else because they don't agree with him Axiom posted... This. Unfair will nitpick anything as long as it means he can draw out the argument I haven't stated an opinion yet but well done on showing your biased nonsense instantly --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. http://i.imgur.com/45yVrRr.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:877446110] in Ex Vice-Pr... [t:75247189]...</cite> <quote><cite>Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...</cite> <quote>Why are you people making it so complicated. Any reasonable person can understand consent and understand the difference between buzzed/drunk/whatever you want to call it and hammered mess. It's like you guys are arguing semantics for the purpose of arguing. Everyone knows what he's saying and everyone knows the difference.</quote> "Everyone understands this already. we all know the difference." Then why is Biden doing speeches about it? Why is it international news? It's undeniably clear that people are not on one page about this, that's been made obvious by the fact among the people agreeing with Biden half are literally pretending he said something else because they don't agree with him <cite>Axiom posted...</cite> <quote> This. Unfair will nitpick anything as long as it means he can draw out the argument </quote> I haven't stated an opinion yet but well done on showing your biased nonsense instantly</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darkman124 04/18/17 4:52:47 PM #127:	UnfairRepresent posted... It's undeniably clear that people are not on one page about this, that's been made obvious by the fact among the people agreeing with Biden half are literally pretending he said something else because they don't agree with him one of the dangerous/challenging things about moralizing (suggesting all who oppose the idea are cowards) is that people who come out against his statement over the details get painted as being against the entire idea of bystanders preventing rape --- And when the hourglass has run out, eternity asks you about only one thing: whether you have lived in despair or not. <cite>Darkman124 posted [p:877446332] in Ex Vice-Pr... [t:75247189]...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote> It's undeniably clear that people are not on one page about this, that's been made obvious by the fact among the people agreeing with Biden half are literally pretending he said something else because they don't agree with him</quote> one of the dangerous/challenging things about moralizing (suggesting all who oppose the idea are cowards) is that people who come out against his statement over the details get painted as being against the entire idea of bystanders preventing rape</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MangaFan462 04/18/17 4:53:40 PM #128:	Darkman124 posted... MangaFan462 posted... What about expecting women to be responsible for their actions? Is that sexist? please be specific about what you expect women to be responsible for Her own drinking? --- Posted using GameFlux https://i.imgur.com/Il34cSX.jpg / https://i.redd.it/zwfbqetu2b8y.jpg <cite>MangaFan462 posted [p:877446402] in Ex Vice-Pr... [t:75247189]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darkman124 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MangaFan462 posted...</cite> <quote> What about expecting women to be responsible for their actions? Is that sexist?</quote> please be specific about what you expect women to be responsible for</quote> Her own drinking?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darkman124 04/18/17 4:54:51 PM #129:	MangaFan462 posted... Darkman124 posted... MangaFan462 posted... What about expecting women to be responsible for their actions? Is that sexist? please be specific about what you expect women to be responsible for Her own drinking? go on. fully explain what you think reasonable consequences for drinking so much you become incapacitated by alcohol include. --- And when the hourglass has run out, eternity asks you about only one thing: whether you have lived in despair or not. <cite>Darkman124 posted [p:877446486] in Ex Vice-Pr... [t:75247189]...</cite> <quote><cite>MangaFan462 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darkman124 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MangaFan462 posted...</cite> <quote> What about expecting women to be responsible for their actions? Is that sexist?</quote> please be specific about what you expect women to be responsible for</quote> Her own drinking?</quote> go on. fully explain what you think reasonable consequences for drinking so much you become incapacitated by alcohol include.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Morpheus102686 04/18/17 5:10:23 PM #130:	k darkfire posted... A woman drives drunk and kills 3 people-shes a criminal A woman gets drunk and has sex with a guy-she';s a victim Wtf kinda logic is this? If a woman is drunk I have every right to have sex with her. I'm not going to wait for her to sober. Literal piece of shit human that posted this and could possibly be a rapist. --- New York Yankees <cite>Morpheus102686 posted [p:877447455] in Ex Vice-Pr... [t:75247189]...</cite> <quote><cite>k darkfire posted...</cite> <quote>A woman drives drunk and kills 3 people-shes a criminal A woman gets drunk and has sex with a guy-she';s a victim Wtf kinda logic is this? If a woman is drunk I have every right to have sex with her. I'm not going to wait for her to sober.</quote> Literal piece of shit human that posted this and could possibly be a rapist.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
donkeyjack 04/18/17 5:29:42 PM #131:	Morpheus102686 posted... k darkfire posted... A woman drives drunk and kills 3 people-shes a criminal A woman gets drunk and has sex with a guy-she';s a victim Wtf kinda logic is this? If a woman is drunk I have every right to have sex with her. I'm not going to wait for her to sober. Literal piece of shit human that posted this and could possibly be a rapist. Another Simpfrey Simpson. --- I used to say forget mic skills/I never pray to god I pray to Gotti http://imgur.com/tyElXOs http://imgur.com/Mxpx3aN <cite>donkeyjack posted [p:877448599] in Ex Vice-Pr... [t:75247189]...</cite> <quote><cite>Morpheus102686 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>k darkfire posted...</cite> <quote>A woman drives drunk and kills 3 people-shes a criminal A woman gets drunk and has sex with a guy-she';s a victim Wtf kinda logic is this? If a woman is drunk I have every right to have sex with her. I'm not going to wait for her to sober.</quote> Literal piece of shit human that posted this and could possibly be a rapist.</quote> Another Simpfrey Simpson.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 04/18/17 11:01:17 PM #133:	Morpheus102686 posted... k darkfire posted... A woman drives drunk and kills 3 people-shes a criminal A woman gets drunk and has sex with a guy-she';s a victim Wtf kinda logic is this? If a woman is drunk I have every right to have sex with her. I'm not going to wait for her to sober. Literal piece of shit human that posted this and could possibly be a rapist. Anyone who posts anything could possibly be a rapist , what a non statement You could possibly be a murderer --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. http://i.imgur.com/45yVrRr.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:877469411] in Ex Vice-Pr... [t:75247189]...</cite> <quote><cite>Morpheus102686 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>k darkfire posted...</cite> <quote>A woman drives drunk and kills 3 people-shes a criminal A woman gets drunk and has sex with a guy-she';s a victim Wtf kinda logic is this? If a woman is drunk I have every right to have sex with her. I'm not going to wait for her to sober.</quote> Literal piece of shit human that posted this and could possibly be a rapist.</quote> Anyone who posts anything could possibly be a rapist , what a non statement You could possibly be a murderer</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 04/20/17 6:56:35 AM #134:	and he was never seen again --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. http://i.imgur.com/45yVrRr.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:877550139] in Ex Vice-Pr... [t:75247189]...</cite> <quote>and he was never seen again</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 04/21/17 4:17:37 PM #135:	and he was never seen again --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. http://i.imgur.com/45yVrRr.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:877641744] in Ex Vice-Pr... [t:75247189]...</cite> <quote>and he was never seen again</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VandorLee 04/21/17 4:21:28 PM #136:	I do agree its hypocritical that if a drunk girl does other things thats her fault but if she has sex then she was raped. --- "God didn't create humans, no, it's humans who created God." Dr. Londes, Cowboy Bebop: "Brain Scratch" (#1.23) (1999) <cite>VandorLee posted [p:877641995] in Ex Vice-Pr... [t:75247189]...</cite> <quote>I do agree its hypocritical that if a drunk girl does other things thats her fault but if she has sex then she was raped.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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