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Webmaster4531 04/17/17 3:28:05 PM #1:	Title Yes. No. View Results Hating them is the basis of conservative ideology. --- Ad Hominem. <cite>Webmaster4531 posted [p:877374154] in Are welfar... [t:75248701]...</cite> <quote> Title Yes. No. View Results Hating them is the basis of conservative ideology.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Edgemaster97 04/17/17 3:33:41 PM #2:	Webmaster4531 posted... Hating them is the basis of conservative ideology. As is pretending to care about them for liberals. Two whole parties of assholes. --- http://i.imgur.com/nVtygiY.gif http://i.imgur.com/OBTh1yR.gif http://i.imgur.com/IqvBLaj.gif http://i.imgur.com/YDMcpBv.gif <cite>Edgemaster97 posted [p:877374469] in Are welfar... [t:75248701]...</cite> <quote><cite>Webmaster4531 posted...</cite> <quote>Hating them is the basis of conservative ideology.</quote> As is pretending to care about them for liberals. Two whole parties of assholes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Webmaster4531 04/17/17 3:39:06 PM #3:	Edgemaster97 posted... Webmaster4531 posted... Hating them is the basis of conservative ideology. As is pretending to care about them for liberals. Two whole parties of assholes. I will always prefer pretending to care than blatant fuck everyone except my wealthy benefactors. --- Ad Hominem. <cite>Webmaster4531 posted [p:877374760] in Are welfar... [t:75248701]...</cite> <quote><cite>Edgemaster97 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Webmaster4531 posted...</cite> <quote>Hating them is the basis of conservative ideology.</quote> As is pretending to care about them for liberals. Two whole parties of assholes.</quote> I will always prefer pretending to care than blatant fuck everyone except my wealthy benefactors.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MakoReizei 04/17/17 3:40:33 PM #4:	is there any reason to not be against them? they suck --- http://i.imgur.com/vvAoIk0.gif <cite>MakoReizei posted [p:877374853] in Are welfar... [t:75248701]...</cite> <quote>is there any reason to not be against them? they suck</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scoobydoobydont 04/17/17 3:43:23 PM #5:	"Welfare hogs"? wtf is that? Edgemaster97 posted... As is pretending to care about them for liberals. Lying doesn't help your false equivalence. MakoReizei posted... is there any reason to not be against them? they suck There's no reason to be against them except bigotry. You sound like a terrible human being. --- http://i.imgur.com/Lz9KiZA.jpg http://i.imgur.com/eUg3mP6.jpg https://i.imgur.com/MK8vbmw.png https://i.imgur.com/DNvL8q5.jpg <cite>scoobydoobydont posted [p:877375017] in Are welfar... [t:75248701]...</cite> <quote>"Welfare hogs"? wtf is that? <cite>Edgemaster97 posted...</cite> <quote>As is pretending to care about them for liberals.</quote> Lying doesn't help your false equivalence. <cite>MakoReizei posted...</cite> <quote>is there any reason to not be against them? they suck</quote> There's no reason to be against them except bigotry. You sound like a terrible human being.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Webmaster4531 04/17/17 3:43:36 PM #6:	MakoReizei posted... is there any reason to not be against them? they suck Because scapegoats are bad reasons to vote. They're a red herring non-issue. I could go godwin on this too. --- Ad Hominem. <cite>Webmaster4531 posted [p:877375032] in Are welfar... [t:75248701]...</cite> <quote><cite>MakoReizei posted...</cite> <quote>is there any reason to not be against them? they suck</quote> Because scapegoats are bad reasons to vote. They're a red herring non-issue. I could go godwin on this too.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DragonGirlYuki 04/17/17 3:44:18 PM #7:	Not subsidizing people with your hard earned dollars? --- ~Yuki~ <cite>DragonGirlYuki posted [p:877375065] in Are welfar... [t:75248701]...</cite> <quote>Not subsidizing people with your hard earned dollars?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KStateKing17 04/17/17 3:44:52 PM #8:	Plus the fact that the reasons people hate these groups are wrong. A lot of people on assisstance have jobs, and many of those immigrants aren't walking across borders to get here. --- Mains: Xiaoyu/Zafina (Tekken)-Dhalsim (SF)-Jax (MK) Luong/Yamazaki/Joe (KoF) <cite>KStateKing17 posted [p:877375096] in Are welfar... [t:75248701]...</cite> <quote>Plus the fact that the reasons people hate these groups are wrong. A lot of people on assisstance have jobs, and many of those immigrants aren't walking across borders to get here.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MakoReizei 04/17/17 3:45:23 PM #9:	Well I don't think they're scapegoats. These are legit issues. --- http://i.imgur.com/vvAoIk0.gif <cite>MakoReizei posted [p:877375124] in Are welfar... [t:75248701]...</cite> <quote>Well I don't think they're scapegoats. These are legit issues.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MakoReizei 04/17/17 3:45:43 PM #10:	DragonGirlYuki posted... Not subsidizing people with your hard earned dollars? or people coming in illegally --- http://i.imgur.com/vvAoIk0.gif <cite>MakoReizei posted [p:877375141] in Are welfar... [t:75248701]...</cite> <quote><cite>DragonGirlYuki posted...</cite> <quote>Not subsidizing people with your hard earned dollars?</quote> or people coming in illegally</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Webmaster4531 04/17/17 3:46:38 PM #11:	scoobydoobydont posted... "Welfare hogs"? wtf is that? https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hog a selfish, gluttonous, or filthy person --- Ad Hominem. <cite>Webmaster4531 posted [p:877375199] in Are welfar... [t:75248701]...</cite> <quote><cite>scoobydoobydont posted...</cite> <quote>"Welfare hogs"? wtf is that? </quote> https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hog <quote>a selfish, gluttonous, or filthy person</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RussianLegSweep 04/17/17 3:48:15 PM #12:	MakoReizei posted... Well I don't think they're scapegoats. These are legit issues. Legit issues but not the major ones many people have been fooled into believing they are. I wouldn't even put them in top 10 issues concerning this country. Hell, "welfare hogs" are barely an issue. --- Stop doing that. <cite>RussianLegSweep posted [p:877375304] in Are welfar... [t:75248701]...</cite> <quote><cite>MakoReizei posted...</cite> <quote>Well I don't think they're scapegoats. These are legit issues.</quote> Legit issues but not the major ones many people have been fooled into believing they are. I wouldn't even put them in top 10 issues concerning this country. Hell, "welfare hogs" are barely an issue.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scoobydoobydont 04/17/17 3:51:07 PM #13:	Webmaster4531 posted... scoobydoobydont posted... "Welfare hogs"? wtf is that? https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hog a selfish, gluttonous, or filthy person What does this have to do with welfare? You said welfare hogs, not just hogs. That isn't even a stereotype. Are you claiming everyone on welfare is a hog? That's pretty fucking offensive (and obviously wrong). --- http://i.imgur.com/Lz9KiZA.jpg http://i.imgur.com/eUg3mP6.jpg https://i.imgur.com/MK8vbmw.png https://i.imgur.com/DNvL8q5.jpg <cite>scoobydoobydont posted [p:877375490] in Are welfar... [t:75248701]...</cite> <quote><cite>Webmaster4531 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>scoobydoobydont posted...</cite> <quote>"Welfare hogs"? wtf is that? </quote> https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hog <quote>a selfish, gluttonous, or filthy person</quote></quote> What does this have to do with welfare? You said welfare hogs, not just hogs. That isn't even a stereotype. Are you claiming everyone on welfare is a hog? That's pretty fucking offensive (and obviously wrong).</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Webmaster4531 04/17/17 3:52:20 PM #14:	MakoReizei posted... Well I don't think they're scapegoats. These are legit issues. I don't. DragonGirlYuki posted... Not subsidizing people with your hard earned dollars? We waste more policing them than they take. --- Ad Hominem. <cite>Webmaster4531 posted [p:877375570] in Are welfar... [t:75248701]...</cite> <quote><cite>MakoReizei posted...</cite> <quote>Well I don't think they're scapegoats. These are legit issues.</quote> I don't. <cite>DragonGirlYuki posted...</cite> <quote>Not subsidizing people with your hard earned dollars?</quote> We waste more policing them than they take.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Webmaster4531 04/17/17 3:56:15 PM #16:	scoobydoobydont posted... Webmaster4531 posted... scoobydoobydont posted... "Welfare hogs"? wtf is that? https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hog a selfish, gluttonous, or filthy person What does this have to do with welfare? You said welfare hogs, not just hogs. That isn't even a stereotype. Are you claiming everyone on welfare is a hog? That's pretty fucking offensive (and obviously wrong). You need me to explain adjectives to you? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noun_adjunct --- Ad Hominem. <cite>Webmaster4531 posted [p:877375806] in Are welfar... [t:75248701]...</cite> <quote><cite>scoobydoobydont posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Webmaster4531 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>scoobydoobydont posted...</cite> <quote>"Welfare hogs"? wtf is that? </quote> https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hog <quote>a selfish, gluttonous, or filthy person</quote></quote> What does this have to do with welfare? You said welfare hogs, not just hogs. That isn't even a stereotype. Are you claiming everyone on welfare is a hog? That's pretty fucking offensive (and obviously wrong).</quote> You need me to explain adjectives to you? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noun_adjunct</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hash-Brown 04/17/17 4:00:44 PM #17:	KStateKing17 posted... Plus the fact that the reasons people hate these groups are wrong. A lot of people on assisstance have jobs, They are not the ones we talk about. There are plenty of people out there that still abuse the system. And even some of those have jobs as well. --- http://i.imgur.com/wuFm3hd.jpg - My Hash Brownies. http://i.imgur.com/mQ7syoS.gif http://i.imgur.com/lY3erBp.jpg <cite>Hash-Brown posted [p:877376053] in Are welfar... [t:75248701]...</cite> <quote><cite>KStateKing17 posted...</cite> <quote>Plus the fact that the reasons people hate these groups are wrong. A lot of people on assisstance have jobs,</quote> They are not the ones we talk about. There are plenty of people out there that still abuse the system. And even some of those have jobs as well.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AltonBrownFan 04/17/17 4:05:28 PM #18:	Hash-Brown posted... KStateKing17 posted... Plus the fact that the reasons people hate these groups are wrong. A lot of people on assisstance have jobs, They are not the ones we talk about. There are plenty of people out there that still abuse the system. And even some of those have jobs as well. How many welfare hogs are out there compared to legit recipients? --- Posted with GameRaven 3.2 <cite>AltonBrownFan posted [p:877376271] in Are welfar... [t:75248701]...</cite> <quote><cite>Hash-Brown posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KStateKing17 posted...</cite> <quote> Plus the fact that the reasons people hate these groups are wrong. A lot of people on assisstance have jobs,</quote> They are not the ones we talk about. There are plenty of people out there that still abuse the system. And even some of those have jobs as well.</quote> How many welfare hogs are out there compared to legit recipients?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Webmaster4531 04/17/17 4:09:08 PM #19:	AltonBrownFan posted... Hash-Brown posted... KStateKing17 posted... Plus the fact that the reasons people hate these groups are wrong. A lot of people on assisstance have jobs, They are not the ones we talk about. There are plenty of people out there that still abuse the system. And even some of those have jobs as well. How many welfare hogs are out there compared to legit recipients? Googling it gives many articles that show it's a non-issue. --- Ad Hominem. <cite>Webmaster4531 posted [p:877376460] in Are welfar... [t:75248701]...</cite> <quote><cite>AltonBrownFan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Hash-Brown posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KStateKing17 posted...</cite> <quote> Plus the fact that the reasons people hate these groups are wrong. A lot of people on assisstance have jobs,</quote> They are not the ones we talk about. There are plenty of people out there that still abuse the system. And even some of those have jobs as well.</quote> How many welfare hogs are out there compared to legit recipients?</quote> Googling it gives many articles that show it's a non-issue.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hash-Brown 04/17/17 4:09:57 PM #20:	AltonBrownFan posted... Hash-Brown posted... KStateKing17 posted... Plus the fact that the reasons people hate these groups are wrong. A lot of people on assisstance have jobs, They are not the ones we talk about. There are plenty of people out there that still abuse the system. And even some of those have jobs as well. How many welfare hogs are out there compared to legit recipients? Well, in the local area I live I would say the hogs outnumber the people that need it by a good amount. Most of the people on it are junkies and scam artists. --- http://i.imgur.com/wuFm3hd.jpg - My Hash Brownies. http://i.imgur.com/mQ7syoS.gif http://i.imgur.com/lY3erBp.jpg <cite>Hash-Brown posted [p:877376504] in Are welfar... [t:75248701]...</cite> <quote><cite>AltonBrownFan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Hash-Brown posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KStateKing17 posted...</cite> <quote> Plus the fact that the reasons people hate these groups are wrong. A lot of people on assisstance have jobs,</quote> They are not the ones we talk about. There are plenty of people out there that still abuse the system. And even some of those have jobs as well.</quote> How many welfare hogs are out there compared to legit recipients?</quote> Well, in the local area I live I would say the hogs outnumber the people that need it by a good amount. Most of the people on it are junkies and scam artists.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Webmaster4531 04/17/17 4:12:01 PM #21:	Hash-Brown posted... AltonBrownFan posted... Hash-Brown posted... KStateKing17 posted... Plus the fact that the reasons people hate these groups are wrong. A lot of people on assisstance have jobs, They are not the ones we talk about. There are plenty of people out there that still abuse the system. And even some of those have jobs as well. How many welfare hogs are out there compared to legit recipients? Well, in the local area I live I would say the hogs outnumber the people that need it by a good amount. Most of the people on it are junkies and scam artists. That's anecdotal. Anecdotal evidence is why scapegoats work. --- Ad Hominem. <cite>Webmaster4531 posted [p:877376612] in Are welfar... [t:75248701]...</cite> <quote><cite>Hash-Brown posted...</cite> <quote><cite>AltonBrownFan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Hash-Brown posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KStateKing17 posted...</cite> <quote> Plus the fact that the reasons people hate these groups are wrong. A lot of people on assisstance have jobs,</quote> They are not the ones we talk about. There are plenty of people out there that still abuse the system. And even some of those have jobs as well.</quote> How many welfare hogs are out there compared to legit recipients?</quote> Well, in the local area I live I would say the hogs outnumber the people that need it by a good amount. Most of the people on it are junkies and scam artists.</quote> That's anecdotal. Anecdotal evidence is why scapegoats work.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Capn Circus 04/17/17 4:12:15 PM #22:	scoobydoobydont posted... "Welfare hogs"? wtf is that? Edgemaster97 posted... As is pretending to care about them for liberals. Lying doesn't help your false equivalence. MakoReizei posted... is there any reason to not be against them? they suck There's no reason to be against them except bigotry. You sound like a terrible human being. Really? If you don't like illegal immigration or welfare hogs you're a bigot? Interesting.. --- "I think that man will be president right about the time when spaceships come down filled with dinosaurs in red capes" - Tom Hanks <cite>Capn Circus posted [p:877376627] in Are welfar... [t:75248701]...</cite> <quote><cite>scoobydoobydont posted...</cite> <quote>"Welfare hogs"? wtf is that? <cite>Edgemaster97 posted...</cite> <quote>As is pretending to care about them for liberals.</quote> Lying doesn't help your false equivalence. <cite>MakoReizei posted...</cite> <quote>is there any reason to not be against them? they suck</quote> There's no reason to be against them except bigotry. You sound like a terrible human being.</quote> Really? If you don't like illegal immigration or welfare hogs you're a bigot? Interesting..</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AltonBrownFan 04/17/17 4:14:05 PM #23:	Hash-Brown posted... AltonBrownFan posted... Hash-Brown posted... KStateKing17 posted... Plus the fact that the reasons people hate these groups are wrong. A lot of people on assisstance have jobs, They are not the ones we talk about. There are plenty of people out there that still abuse the system. And even some of those have jobs as well. How many welfare hogs are out there compared to legit recipients? Well, in the local area I live I would say the hogs outnumber the people that need it by a good amount. Most of the people on it are junkies and scam artists. Since when did the plural of anecdote become data? --- Posted with GameRaven 3.2 <cite>AltonBrownFan posted [p:877376741] in Are welfar... [t:75248701]...</cite> <quote><cite>Hash-Brown posted...</cite> <quote><cite>AltonBrownFan posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Hash-Brown posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>KStateKing17 posted...</cite> <quote> Plus the fact that the reasons people hate these groups are wrong. A lot of people on assisstance have jobs, </quote> They are not the ones we talk about. There are plenty of people out there that still abuse the system. And even some of those have jobs as well. </quote> How many welfare hogs are out there compared to legit recipients?</quote> Well, in the local area I live I would say the hogs outnumber the people that need it by a good amount. Most of the people on it are junkies and scam artists.</quote> Since when did the plural of anecdote become data?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Webmaster4531 04/17/17 4:14:28 PM #24:	Capn Circus posted... scoobydoobydont posted... "Welfare hogs"? wtf is that? Edgemaster97 posted... As is pretending to care about them for liberals. Lying doesn't help your false equivalence. MakoReizei posted... is there any reason to not be against them? they suck There's no reason to be against them except bigotry. You sound like a terrible human being. Really? If you don't like illegal immigration or welfare hogs you're a bigot? Interesting.. Ignore scooby. He surprisingly posted something dumber than what conservatives have said. --- Ad Hominem. <cite>Webmaster4531 posted [p:877376768] in Are welfar... [t:75248701]...</cite> <quote><cite>Capn Circus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>scoobydoobydont posted...</cite> <quote>"Welfare hogs"? wtf is that? <cite>Edgemaster97 posted...</cite> <quote>As is pretending to care about them for liberals.</quote> Lying doesn't help your false equivalence. <cite>MakoReizei posted...</cite> <quote>is there any reason to not be against them? they suck</quote> There's no reason to be against them except bigotry. You sound like a terrible human being.</quote> Really? If you don't like illegal immigration or welfare hogs you're a bigot? Interesting..</quote> Ignore scooby. He surprisingly posted something dumber than what conservatives have said.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hash-Brown 04/17/17 4:15:28 PM #25:	Webmaster4531 posted... Hash-Brown posted... AltonBrownFan posted... Hash-Brown posted... KStateKing17 posted... Plus the fact that the reasons people hate these groups are wrong. A lot of people on assisstance have jobs, They are not the ones we talk about. There are plenty of people out there that still abuse the system. And even some of those have jobs as well. How many welfare hogs are out there compared to legit recipients? Well, in the local area I live I would say the hogs outnumber the people that need it by a good amount. Most of the people on it are junkies and scam artists. That's anecdotal. Anecdotal evidence is why scapegoats work. Yeah, when all I see is people that have sometimes even admitted to scamming the system I tend to go with that. And it is not like those organizations actually look to deep into any fraud claims from what I have seen. --- http://i.imgur.com/wuFm3hd.jpg - My Hash Brownies. http://i.imgur.com/mQ7syoS.gif http://i.imgur.com/lY3erBp.jpg <cite>Hash-Brown posted [p:877376830] in Are welfar... [t:75248701]...</cite> <quote><cite>Webmaster4531 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Hash-Brown posted...</cite> <quote><cite>AltonBrownFan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Hash-Brown posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KStateKing17 posted...</cite> <quote> Plus the fact that the reasons people hate these groups are wrong. A lot of people on assisstance have jobs,</quote> They are not the ones we talk about. There are plenty of people out there that still abuse the system. And even some of those have jobs as well.</quote> How many welfare hogs are out there compared to legit recipients?</quote> Well, in the local area I live I would say the hogs outnumber the people that need it by a good amount. Most of the people on it are junkies and scam artists.</quote> That's anecdotal. Anecdotal evidence is why scapegoats work.</quote> Yeah, when all I see is people that have sometimes even admitted to scamming the system I tend to go with that. And it is not like those organizations actually look to deep into any fraud claims from what I have seen.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Liberals 04/17/17 4:17:39 PM #26:	Hash-Brown posted... Yeah, when all I see is people that have sometimes even admitted to scamming the system I tend to go with that. I don't mean this to be condescending but you really have to look at the world beyond your own experiences. Our individual perspective is just really meaningless in the bigger picture. --- #thingsliberalssay <cite>Liberals posted [p:877376968] in Are welfar... [t:75248701]...</cite> <quote><cite>Hash-Brown posted...</cite> <quote>Yeah, when all I see is people that have sometimes even admitted to scamming the system I tend to go with that.</quote> I don't mean this to be condescending but you really have to look at the world beyond your own experiences. Our individual perspective is just really meaningless in the bigger picture.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gunplagirl 04/17/17 4:18:23 PM #27:	DragonGirlYuki posted... Not subsidizing people with your hard earned dollars? Oh no, your hard earned dollars helped people live how awful Yet I'm sure you're okay subsidizing the military and other private industries with much more of your tax money --- Pokemon Moon FC: 1994-2190-5020 IGN: Vanessa <cite>gunplagirl posted [p:877377008] in Are welfar... [t:75248701]...</cite> <quote><cite>DragonGirlYuki posted...</cite> <quote>Not subsidizing people with your hard earned dollars?</quote> Oh no, your hard earned dollars helped people live how awful Yet I'm sure you're okay subsidizing the military and other private industries with much more of your tax money</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hash-Brown 04/17/17 4:19:06 PM #28:	Liberals posted... I don't mean this to be condescending but you really have to look at the world beyond your own experiences. Our individual perspective is just really meaningless in the bigger picture. I really doubt it is that different anywhere else. --- http://i.imgur.com/wuFm3hd.jpg - My Hash Brownies. http://i.imgur.com/mQ7syoS.gif http://i.imgur.com/lY3erBp.jpg <cite>Hash-Brown posted [p:877377050] in Are welfar... [t:75248701]...</cite> <quote><cite>Liberals posted...</cite> <quote>I don't mean this to be condescending but you really have to look at the world beyond your own experiences. Our individual perspective is just really meaningless in the bigger picture.</quote> I really doubt it is that different anywhere else.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Webmaster4531 04/17/17 4:19:16 PM #29:	Hash-Brown posted... Yeah, when all I see is people that have sometimes even admitted to scamming the system I tend to go with that. Confirmation bias is a thing. You believe it's a problem big enough to base an ideology around? --- Ad Hominem. <cite>Webmaster4531 posted [p:877377059] in Are welfar... [t:75248701]...</cite> <quote><cite>Hash-Brown posted...</cite> <quote>Yeah, when all I see is people that have sometimes even admitted to scamming the system I tend to go with that.</quote> Confirmation bias is a thing. You believe it's a problem big enough to base an ideology around?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hash-Brown 04/17/17 4:23:49 PM #30:	Webmaster4531 posted... You believe it's a problem big enough to base an ideology around? Yes. Like I said, most of the people I know that get welfare are abusing the system. I know some that need it and do everything they can, but there are far more that are junkies and people leeching off the state. --- http://i.imgur.com/wuFm3hd.jpg - My Hash Brownies. http://i.imgur.com/mQ7syoS.gif http://i.imgur.com/lY3erBp.jpg <cite>Hash-Brown posted [p:877377345] in Are welfar... [t:75248701]...</cite> <quote><cite>Webmaster4531 posted...</cite> <quote>You believe it's a problem big enough to base an ideology around?</quote> Yes. Like I said, most of the people I know that get welfare are abusing the system. I know some that need it and do everything they can, but there are far more that are junkies and people leeching off the state.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Webmaster4531 04/17/17 4:24:49 PM #31:	Hash-Brown posted... Webmaster4531 posted... You believe it's a problem big enough to base an ideology around? Yes. Like I said, most of the people I know that get welfare are abusing the system. I know some that need it and do everything they can, but there are far more that are junkies and people leeching off the state. I'm sorry, that's just stupid. --- Ad Hominem. <cite>Webmaster4531 posted [p:877377401] in Are welfar... [t:75248701]...</cite> <quote><cite>Hash-Brown posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Webmaster4531 posted...</cite> <quote>You believe it's a problem big enough to base an ideology around?</quote> Yes. Like I said, most of the people I know that get welfare are abusing the system. I know some that need it and do everything they can, but there are far more that are junkies and people leeching off the state.</quote> I'm sorry, that's just stupid.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ASithLord7 04/17/17 4:25:32 PM #32:	MakoReizei posted... is there any reason to not be against them? they suck Because they don't exist in any relevant numbers. And on a state-level, Republican states take the most from the federal government in aid and pay in the least. So lol. --- http://i.imgur.com/VZeCB.gif RebelElite791 <cite>ASithLord7 posted [p:877377439] in Are welfar... [t:75248701]...</cite> <quote><cite>MakoReizei posted...</cite> <quote>is there any reason to not be against them? they suck</quote> Because they don't exist in any relevant numbers. And on a state-level, Republican states take the most from the federal government in aid and pay in the least. So lol.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Liberals 04/17/17 4:25:40 PM #33:	Hash-Brown posted... Liberals posted... I don't mean this to be condescending but you really have to look at the world beyond your own experiences. Our individual perspective is just really meaningless in the bigger picture. I really doubt it is that different anywhere else. Data suggests otherwise. --- #thingsliberalssay <cite>Liberals posted [p:877377454] in Are welfar... [t:75248701]...</cite> <quote><cite>Hash-Brown posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Liberals posted...</cite> <quote>I don't mean this to be condescending but you really have to look at the world beyond your own experiences. Our individual perspective is just really meaningless in the bigger picture.</quote> I really doubt it is that different anywhere else.</quote> Data suggests otherwise.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hash-Brown 04/17/17 4:27:41 PM #34:	Liberals posted... Hash-Brown posted... Liberals posted... I don't mean this to be condescending but you really have to look at the world beyond your own experiences. Our individual perspective is just really meaningless in the bigger picture. I really doubt it is that different anywhere else. Data suggests otherwise. Considering how inept they are at making sure fraud isn't taking place I doubt it. --- http://i.imgur.com/wuFm3hd.jpg - My Hash Brownies. http://i.imgur.com/mQ7syoS.gif http://i.imgur.com/lY3erBp.jpg <cite>Hash-Brown posted [p:877377578] in Are welfar... [t:75248701]...</cite> <quote><cite>Liberals posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Hash-Brown posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Liberals posted...</cite> <quote>I don't mean this to be condescending but you really have to look at the world beyond your own experiences. Our individual perspective is just really meaningless in the bigger picture.</quote> I really doubt it is that different anywhere else.</quote> Data suggests otherwise.</quote> Considering how inept they are at making sure fraud isn't taking place I doubt it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ASithLord7 04/17/17 4:28:13 PM #35:	Hash-Brown posted... Liberals posted... Hash-Brown posted... Liberals posted... I don't mean this to be condescending but you really have to look at the world beyond your own experiences. Our individual perspective is just really meaningless in the bigger picture. I really doubt it is that different anywhere else. Data suggests otherwise. Considering how inept they are at making sure fraud isn't taking place I doubt it. The facts disagree with you. --- http://i.imgur.com/VZeCB.gif RebelElite791 <cite>ASithLord7 posted [p:877377611] in Are welfar... [t:75248701]...</cite> <quote><cite>Hash-Brown posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Liberals posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Hash-Brown posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Liberals posted...</cite> <quote>I don't mean this to be condescending but you really have to look at the world beyond your own experiences. Our individual perspective is just really meaningless in the bigger picture.</quote> I really doubt it is that different anywhere else.</quote> Data suggests otherwise.</quote> Considering how inept they are at making sure fraud isn't taking place I doubt it.</quote> The facts disagree with you.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hash-Brown 04/17/17 4:30:30 PM #36:	ASithLord7 posted... Hash-Brown posted... Liberals posted... Hash-Brown posted... Liberals posted... I don't mean this to be condescending but you really have to look at the world beyond your own experiences. Our individual perspective is just really meaningless in the bigger picture. I really doubt it is that different anywhere else. Data suggests otherwise. Considering how inept they are at making sure fraud isn't taking place I doubt it. The facts disagree with you. Because the facts were probably collected half assed. Do you actually think government workers actually put effort into the work they do? --- http://i.imgur.com/wuFm3hd.jpg - My Hash Brownies. http://i.imgur.com/mQ7syoS.gif http://i.imgur.com/lY3erBp.jpg <cite>Hash-Brown posted [p:877377765] in Are welfar... [t:75248701]...</cite> <quote><cite>ASithLord7 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Hash-Brown posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Liberals posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Hash-Brown posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Liberals posted...</cite> <quote>I don't mean this to be condescending but you really have to look at the world beyond your own experiences. Our individual perspective is just really meaningless in the bigger picture.</quote> I really doubt it is that different anywhere else.</quote> Data suggests otherwise.</quote> Considering how inept they are at making sure fraud isn't taking place I doubt it.</quote> The facts disagree with you.</quote> Because the facts were probably collected half assed. Do you actually think government workers actually put effort into the work they do?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ASithLord7 04/17/17 4:30:56 PM #37:	Hash-Brown posted... Because the facts were probably Oh. Well I guess you say so so it must be true. --- http://i.imgur.com/VZeCB.gif RebelElite791 <cite>ASithLord7 posted [p:877377791] in Are welfar... [t:75248701]...</cite> <quote><cite>Hash-Brown posted...</cite> <quote>Because the facts were probably</quote> Oh. Well I guess you say so so it must be true.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gunplagirl 04/17/17 4:34:28 PM #38:	Hash-Brown posted... Webmaster4531 posted... You believe it's a problem big enough to base an ideology around? Yes. Like I said, most of the people I know that get welfare are abusing the system. I know some that need it and do everything they can, but there are far more that are junkies and people leeching off the state. "Leeching" is subjective, not everyone can work and if they have children, child care costs more than most could earn. Even in large cities, there's often well and above more people than jobs, so not everyone could work anyways. Unless you'd be okay suddenly working 20 hours a week so somebody else can take the other 20? Thought not. And junkies is a lie. Every time a, state has drug tested recipients, they had less than 1% of all people turn up positive. If they were really junkies they couldn't even get off long enough to pass a piss test. But hey, spending millions just to cancel a few hundred in potential benefits for somebody who doesn't qualify must totally be worth it, even though the millions are also subsidized from your taxes. --- Pokemon Moon FC: 1994-2190-5020 IGN: Vanessa <cite>gunplagirl posted [p:877378014] in Are welfar... [t:75248701]...</cite> <quote><cite>Hash-Brown posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Webmaster4531 posted...</cite> <quote>You believe it's a problem big enough to base an ideology around?</quote> Yes. Like I said, most of the people I know that get welfare are abusing the system. I know some that need it and do everything they can, but there are far more that are junkies and people leeching off the state.</quote> "Leeching" is subjective, not everyone can work and if they have children, child care costs more than most could earn. Even in large cities, there's often well and above more people than jobs, so not everyone could work anyways. Unless you'd be okay suddenly working 20 hours a week so somebody else can take the other 20? Thought not. And junkies is a lie. Every time a, state has drug tested recipients, they had less than 1% of all people turn up positive. If they were really junkies they couldn't even get off long enough to pass a piss test. But hey, spending millions just to cancel a few hundred in potential benefits for somebody who doesn't qualify must totally be worth it, even though the millions are also subsidized from your taxes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hash-Brown 04/17/17 4:37:44 PM #39:	gunplagirl posted... And junkies is a lie. Every time a, state has drug tested recipients, they had less than 1% of all people turn up positive. If they were really junkies they couldn't even get off long enough to pass a piss test. Because outside of weed pretty much every other drug is out of your system in 2-3 days. Not that hard to pass a drug test unless you have hit rock bottom. --- http://i.imgur.com/wuFm3hd.jpg - My Hash Brownies. http://i.imgur.com/mQ7syoS.gif http://i.imgur.com/lY3erBp.jpg <cite>Hash-Brown posted [p:877378241] in Are welfar... [t:75248701]...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote>And junkies is a lie. Every time a, state has drug tested recipients, they had less than 1% of all people turn up positive. If they were really junkies they couldn't even get off long enough to pass a piss test. </quote> Because outside of weed pretty much every other drug is out of your system in 2-3 days. Not that hard to pass a drug test unless you have hit rock bottom.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ASithLord7 04/17/17 4:43:37 PM #40:	Hash-Brown posted... gunplagirl posted... And junkies is a lie. Every time a, state has drug tested recipients, they had less than 1% of all people turn up positive. If they were really junkies they couldn't even get off long enough to pass a piss test. Because outside of weed pretty much every other drug is out of your system in 2-3 days. Not that hard to pass a drug test unless you have hit rock bottom. A "junkie" cannot go 2-3 days without a fix. --- http://i.imgur.com/VZeCB.gif RebelElite791 <cite>ASithLord7 posted [p:877378603] in Are welfar... [t:75248701]...</cite> <quote><cite>Hash-Brown posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote>And junkies is a lie. Every time a, state has drug tested recipients, they had less than 1% of all people turn up positive. If they were really junkies they couldn't even get off long enough to pass a piss test. </quote> Because outside of weed pretty much every other drug is out of your system in 2-3 days. Not that hard to pass a drug test unless you have hit rock bottom.</quote> A "junkie" cannot go 2-3 days without a fix.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hash-Brown 04/17/17 5:04:04 PM #41:	ASithLord7 posted... Hash-Brown posted... gunplagirl posted... And junkies is a lie. Every time a, state has drug tested recipients, they had less than 1% of all people turn up positive. If they were really junkies they couldn't even get off long enough to pass a piss test. Because outside of weed pretty much every other drug is out of your system in 2-3 days. Not that hard to pass a drug test unless you have hit rock bottom. A "junkie" cannot go 2-3 days without a fix. Yes they can. Not everyone that is addicted goes straight to the need it every second phase. Some people have stronger willpower to the addiction. They all will end up that way in the end, but some can go awhile before they reach that point. --- http://i.imgur.com/wuFm3hd.jpg - My Hash Brownies. http://i.imgur.com/mQ7syoS.gif http://i.imgur.com/lY3erBp.jpg <cite>Hash-Brown posted [p:877379914] in Are welfar... [t:75248701]...</cite> <quote><cite>ASithLord7 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Hash-Brown posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote>And junkies is a lie. Every time a, state has drug tested recipients, they had less than 1% of all people turn up positive. If they were really junkies they couldn't even get off long enough to pass a piss test. </quote> Because outside of weed pretty much every other drug is out of your system in 2-3 days. Not that hard to pass a drug test unless you have hit rock bottom.</quote> A "junkie" cannot go 2-3 days without a fix.</quote> Yes they can. Not everyone that is addicted goes straight to the need it every second phase. Some people have stronger willpower to the addiction. They all will end up that way in the end, but some can go awhile before they reach that point.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ASithLord7 04/17/17 5:07:27 PM #42:	Hash-Brown posted... ASithLord7 posted... Hash-Brown posted... gunplagirl posted... And junkies is a lie. Every time a, state has drug tested recipients, they had less than 1% of all people turn up positive. If they were really junkies they couldn't even get off long enough to pass a piss test. Because outside of weed pretty much every other drug is out of your system in 2-3 days. Not that hard to pass a drug test unless you have hit rock bottom. A "junkie" cannot go 2-3 days without a fix. Yes they can. Not everyone that is addicted goes straight to the need it every second phase. Some people have stronger willpower to the addiction. They all will end up that way in the end, but some can go awhile before they reach that point. Then they aren't a junkie. --- http://i.imgur.com/VZeCB.gif RebelElite791 <cite>ASithLord7 posted [p:877380138] in Are welfar... [t:75248701]...</cite> <quote><cite>Hash-Brown posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ASithLord7 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Hash-Brown posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote>And junkies is a lie. Every time a, state has drug tested recipients, they had less than 1% of all people turn up positive. If they were really junkies they couldn't even get off long enough to pass a piss test. </quote> Because outside of weed pretty much every other drug is out of your system in 2-3 days. Not that hard to pass a drug test unless you have hit rock bottom.</quote> A "junkie" cannot go 2-3 days without a fix.</quote> Yes they can. Not everyone that is addicted goes straight to the need it every second phase. Some people have stronger willpower to the addiction. They all will end up that way in the end, but some can go awhile before they reach that point.</quote> Then they aren't a junkie.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Webmaster4531 04/17/17 5:08:23 PM #43:	There's no talking to Hash. He just makes up anecdotes for ever situation. The logic of most people on welfare are junkies but they're all good at hiding it is just so stupid. --- Ad Hominem. <cite>Webmaster4531 posted [p:877380191] in Are welfar... [t:75248701]...</cite> <quote>There's no talking to Hash. He just makes up anecdotes for ever situation. The logic of most people on welfare are junkies but they're all good at hiding it is just so stupid.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hash-Brown 04/17/17 5:10:50 PM #44:	ASithLord7 posted... Then they aren't a junkie. Pretty sure the only qualifier for being a junkie is to use junk. So if they use junk, they are a junkie. Webmaster4531 posted... The logic of most people on welfare are junkies but they're all good at hiding it is just so stupid. How? It is not like the government is making sure these people are not doing it. --- http://i.imgur.com/wuFm3hd.jpg - My Hash Brownies. http://i.imgur.com/mQ7syoS.gif http://i.imgur.com/lY3erBp.jpg <cite>Hash-Brown posted [p:877380333] in Are welfar... [t:75248701]...</cite> <quote><cite>ASithLord7 posted...</cite> <quote>Then they aren't a junkie.</quote> Pretty sure the only qualifier for being a junkie is to use junk. So if they use junk, they are a junkie. <cite>Webmaster4531 posted...</cite> <quote>The logic of most people on welfare are junkies but they're all good at hiding it is just so stupid. </quote> How? It is not like the government is making sure these people are not doing it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ASithLord7 04/17/17 5:11:24 PM #45:	Hash-Brown posted... ASithLord7 posted... Then they aren't a junkie. Pretty sure the only qualifier for being a junkie is to use junk. So if they use junk, they are a junkie. Webmaster4531 posted... The logic of most people on welfare are junkies but they're all good at hiding it is just so stupid. How? It is not like the government is making sure these people are not doing it. junk·ie ˈjəNGkē/ nouninformal noun: junkie; plural noun: junkies; noun: junky a drug addict. --- http://i.imgur.com/VZeCB.gif RebelElite791 <cite>ASithLord7 posted [p:877380373] in Are welfar... [t:75248701]...</cite> <quote><cite>Hash-Brown posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ASithLord7 posted...</cite> <quote>Then they aren't a junkie.</quote> Pretty sure the only qualifier for being a junkie is to use junk. So if they use junk, they are a junkie. <cite>Webmaster4531 posted...</cite> <quote>The logic of most people on welfare are junkies but they're all good at hiding it is just so stupid. </quote> How? It is not like the government is making sure these people are not doing it.</quote> junk·ie ˈjəNGkē/ nouninformal noun: junkie; plural noun: junkies; noun: junky a drug addict.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Webmaster4531 04/17/17 5:20:04 PM #46:	Hash-Brown posted... ASithLord7 posted... Then they aren't a junkie. Pretty sure the only qualifier for being a junkie is to use junk. So if they use junk, they are a junkie. Webmaster4531 posted... The logic of most people on welfare are junkies but they're all good at hiding it is just so stupid. How? It is not like the government is making sure these people are not doing it. It's not easy to get on welfare in the first place. A junkie with children will get investigated by child services without these worthless blanket investigations. Someone on welfare with a disability would make me worry more about legal addictive drugs like pain killers. --- Ad Hominem. <cite>Webmaster4531 posted [p:877380902] in Are welfar... [t:75248701]...</cite> <quote><cite>Hash-Brown posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ASithLord7 posted...</cite> <quote>Then they aren't a junkie.</quote> Pretty sure the only qualifier for being a junkie is to use junk. So if they use junk, they are a junkie. <cite>Webmaster4531 posted...</cite> <quote>The logic of most people on welfare are junkies but they're all good at hiding it is just so stupid. </quote> How? It is not like the government is making sure these people are not doing it.</quote> It's not easy to get on welfare in the first place. A junkie with children will get investigated by child services without these worthless blanket investigations. Someone on welfare with a disability would make me worry more about legal addictive drugs like pain killers.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Webmaster4531 04/17/17 5:57:53 PM #48:	GOATTHlEF posted... When a topic keeps setting off your goatdar but there aren't any actual goats Isn't there supposed to be a pokemon in there? --- Ad Hominem. <cite>Webmaster4531 posted [p:877383137] in Are welfar... [t:75248701]...</cite> <quote><cite>GOATTHlEF posted...</cite> <quote>When a topic keeps setting off your goatdar but there aren't any actual goats</quote> Isn't there supposed to be a pokemon in there?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hash-Brown 04/17/17 6:34:15 PM #49:	ASithLord7 posted... Hash-Brown posted... ASithLord7 posted... Then they aren't a junkie. Pretty sure the only qualifier for being a junkie is to use junk. So if they use junk, they are a junkie. Webmaster4531 posted... The logic of most people on welfare are junkies but they're all good at hiding it is just so stupid. How? It is not like the government is making sure these people are not doing it. junk·ie ˈjəNGkē/ nouninformal noun: junkie; plural noun: junkies; noun: junky a drug addict. Addiction comes in many levels. Not everyone addicted is a fiend. --- http://i.imgur.com/wuFm3hd.jpg - My Hash Brownies. http://i.imgur.com/mQ7syoS.gif http://i.imgur.com/lY3erBp.jpg <cite>Hash-Brown posted [p:877385294] in Are welfar... [t:75248701]...</cite> <quote><cite>ASithLord7 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Hash-Brown posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ASithLord7 posted...</cite> <quote>Then they aren't a junkie.</quote> Pretty sure the only qualifier for being a junkie is to use junk. So if they use junk, they are a junkie. <cite>Webmaster4531 posted...</cite> <quote>The logic of most people on welfare are junkies but they're all good at hiding it is just so stupid. </quote> How? It is not like the government is making sure these people are not doing it.</quote> junk·ie ˈjəNGkē/ nouninformal noun: junkie; plural noun: junkies; noun: junky a drug addict.</quote> Addiction comes in many levels. Not everyone addicted is a fiend.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Webmaster4531 04/17/17 6:40:09 PM #50:	Hash-Brown posted... ASithLord7 posted... Hash-Brown posted... ASithLord7 posted... Then they aren't a junkie. Pretty sure the only qualifier for being a junkie is to use junk. So if they use junk, they are a junkie. Webmaster4531 posted... The logic of most people on welfare are junkies but they're all good at hiding it is just so stupid. How? It is not like the government is making sure these people are not doing it. junk·ie ˈjəNGkē/ nouninformal noun: junkie; plural noun: junkies; noun: junky a drug addict. Addiction comes in many levels. Not everyone addicted is a fiend. Weird, you were die hard calling them an important menace and not a scapegoat. --- Ad Hominem. <cite>Webmaster4531 posted [p:877385641] in Are welfar... [t:75248701]...</cite> <quote><cite>Hash-Brown posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ASithLord7 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Hash-Brown posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ASithLord7 posted...</cite> <quote>Then they aren't a junkie.</quote> Pretty sure the only qualifier for being a junkie is to use junk. So if they use junk, they are a junkie. <cite>Webmaster4531 posted...</cite> <quote>The logic of most people on welfare are junkies but they're all good at hiding it is just so stupid. </quote> How? It is not like the government is making sure these people are not doing it.</quote> junk·ie ˈjəNGkē/ nouninformal noun: junkie; plural noun: junkies; noun: junky a drug addict.</quote> Addiction comes in many levels. Not everyone addicted is a fiend.</quote> Weird, you were die hard calling them an important menace and not a scapegoat.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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