Current Events > There's zero argument now, a government shutdown will be completely on Trump

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If it actually happens, it's because of his boneheaded refusal to back down over the wall

http://thehill.com/homenews/house/330186-bipartisan-lawmakers-call-for-clean-spending-bill-with-no-border-wall-funding#

Bipartisan approval for a bill that'll keep the lights on. Back off Trump.

fenderbender321 posted...

Every time the government shuts down, nothing bad happens at all. If that isn't proof that government is overrated and mostly worthless, I don't know what is.

Do you not care about the hundreds of thousands of people put on unpaid leave/furloughs?

If there was someone who was tech-savvy in the administration, they could just implement laser technology to do what a wall would fail at, and for a much cheaper price.

Actual source of it already being implemented in India:

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Laser-walls-activated-along-India-Pakistan-border-to-plug-gaps-in-vigil/articleshow/52012679.cms

"The "laser walls" or fence are being monitored by the BSF which guards the Indo-Pak border in Jammu and Kashmir, Punjab, Rajasthan and Gujarat.

The decision to install these laser walls was taken by the BSF two years ago keeping in mind the vulnerability of the border in these areas as barbed wire fencing could not be installed in many infiltration prone areas due to treacherous terrain or marshy riverine topography.

After the Pathankot terror attack, where it was suspected that terrorists crossed over from Pakistan by breaching the border from Bamiyal area in Punjab, Union home ministry and BSF sped up the deployment and activation of these walls along the long and winding border.

"The laser walls have started working and their functioning is being monitored. Preliminary results in detecting illegal movements are encouraging," the official said.

He said sensors were being monitored through a satellite-based signal command system and armed with night and fog operability tools.

Apart from these, four other pilot projects of similar kind in stretches of 30-40 kms of international border in Jammu and Gujarat and one in West Bengal along Indo-Bangla border have been approved by Home Ministry to secure Indian borders effectively."

Someone tweet this out to Trump or something.

#MakeAmericaTechSavvyAgain
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FlashOfLight posted...

If there was someone who was tech-savvy in the administration, they could just implement laser technology to do what a wall would fail at, and for a much cheaper price.

Actual source of it already being implemented in India:

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Laser-walls-activated-along-India-Pakistan-border-to-plug-gaps-in-vigil/articleshow/52012679.cms

"The "laser walls" or fence are being monitored by the BSF which guards the Indo-Pak border in Jammu and Kashmir, Punjab, Rajasthan and Gujarat.

The decision to install these laser walls was taken by the BSF two years ago keeping in mind the vulnerability of the border in these areas as barbed wire fencing could not be installed in many infiltration prone areas due to treacherous terrain or marshy riverine topography.

After the Pathankot terror attack, where it was suspected that terrorists crossed over from Pakistan by breaching the border from Bamiyal area in Punjab, Union home ministry and BSF sped up the deployment and activation of these walls along the long and winding border.

"The laser walls have started working and their functioning is being monitored. Preliminary results in detecting illegal movements are encouraging," the official said.

He said sensors were being monitored through a satellite-based signal command system and armed with night and fog operability tools.

Apart from these, four other pilot projects of similar kind in stretches of 30-40 kms of international border in Jammu and Gujarat and one in West Bengal along Indo-Bangla border have been approved by Home Ministry to secure Indian borders effectively."

Someone tweet this out to Trump or something.

#MakeAmericaTechSavvyAgain

Pretty fuckin badass on top of it

Ampelas posted...

fenderbender321 posted...

Every time the government shuts down, nothing bad happens at all. If that isn't proof that government is overrated and mostly worthless, I don't know what is.

Do you not care about the hundreds of thousands of people put on unpaid leave/furloughs?

That wasn't his point at all.
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jenningsnash313 posted...

Ampelas posted...

fenderbender321 posted...

Every time the government shuts down, nothing bad happens at all. If that isn't proof that government is overrated and mostly worthless, I don't know what is.

Do you not care about the hundreds of thousands of people put on unpaid leave/furloughs?

That wasn't his point at all.

Well, the government doesn't entirely shut down, and it's for a small enough time period that there aren't any direct ramifications to daily life. If the government completely shut down, I think you'd see why government is needed.

No, I prefer a brick/metal wall. For one, you won't be able to see a laser wall on Google Earth satellite imagery. And that would suck.
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Ampelas posted...

I think you'd see why government is needed.

Not really. I live in Texas and I'm pretty sure Texas is self sustainable.
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FlashOfLight posted...

#MakeAmericaTechSavvyAgain

We need more technocrats in office. This sounds really god damned cool and interesting.
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fenderbender321 posted...

Every time the government shuts down, nothing bad happens at all. If that isn't proof that government is overrated and mostly worthless, I don't know what is.

nothing bad happens to you.

Military families won't get paid, people depending on government subsidies to open a business won't get them, people depending on entitlements like Medicare/Social Security won't get it. People who have jobs in various federal offices like SS Administration, the folks who make passports, etc will be told to go home and come back when we're open again. etc.

Oh, and we don't pay our bills and USA's economy tanks. But who cares about that, right?
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Doom_Art posted...

FlashOfLight posted...

#MakeAmericaTechSavvyAgain

We need more technocrats in office. This sounds really god damned cool and interesting.

Hell yes! Can you imagine how much could get done with a visionary in office?
Ammonitida posted...

No, I prefer a brick/metal wall. For one, you won't be able to see a laser wall on Google Earth satellite imagery. And that would suck.

A laser wall would show up strong on infrared. Like a lightsaber across the top of Mexico

Ampelas posted...

Do you not care about the hundreds of thousands of people put on unpaid leave/furloughs?

It's not like you do, so drop the act.
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fenderbender321 posted...

Every time the government shuts down, nothing bad happens at all. If that isn't proof that government is overrated and mostly worthless, I don't know what is.

http://www.nature.com/news/nih-shutdown-effects-multiply-1.13872

I had multiple colleagues whose experiments were interrupted due to the shutdown. Sometimes timing really matters, and the shutdown likely caused numerous studies to have various time confounds.

Not to mention the effect of the sequestration that followed.
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Gojak_v3 posted...

Ampelas posted...

Do you not care about the hundreds of thousands of people put on unpaid leave/furloughs?

It's not like you do, so drop the act.

Why wouldn't I care? I have a couple friends with government jobs, and even if I didn't, it's a net loss for the country to have that many people out of work for a bit.

I think those employees could be more helpful if they applied their talents elsewhere.
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ChromaticAngel posted...

fenderbender321 posted...

Every time the government shuts down, nothing bad happens at all. If that isn't proof that government is overrated and mostly worthless, I don't know what is.

nothing bad happens to you.

Military families won't get paid, people depending on government subsidies to open a business won't get them, people depending on entitlements like Medicare/Social Security won't get it. People who have jobs in various federal offices like SS Administration, the folks who make passports, etc will be told to go home and come back when we're open again. etc.

Oh, and we don't pay our bills and USA's economy tanks. But who cares about that, right?

I think it's crazy how many people have this "Nothing bad happened to me individually, so nothing bad happened at all" mentality.
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CableZL posted...

I think it's crazy how many people have this "Nothing bad happened to me individually, so nothing bad happened at all" mentality.

well i mean righties do tend to be rather self-centered
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imagine being willing to shut down the government over a stupid fucking pointless wall.
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CableZL posted...

ChromaticAngel posted...

fenderbender321 posted...

Every time the government shuts down, nothing bad happens at all. If that isn't proof that government is overrated and mostly worthless, I don't know what is.

nothing bad happens to you.

Military families won't get paid, people depending on government subsidies to open a business won't get them, people depending on entitlements like Medicare/Social Security won't get it. People who have jobs in various federal offices like SS Administration, the folks who make passports, etc will be told to go home and come back when we're open again. etc.

Oh, and we don't pay our bills and USA's economy tanks. But who cares about that, right?

I think it's crazy how many people have this "Nothing bad happened to me individually, so nothing bad happened at all" mentality.

it's the same logic that leads to people believing that racism doesn't exist anymore, that climate change is a lie, and any number of other issues.

Some people only care about themselves
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Phantom_Nook posted...

imagine being willing to shut down the government over a stupid fucking pointless wall.

Pretty pathetic of Donnie, but with so much failure under his belt, he probably feels like he needs one in the win column for his first 100 days

When is he going to give up on this fucking wall bs. Most republicans don't even want it

fenderbender321 posted...

Every time the government shuts down, nothing bad happens at all. If that isn't proof that government is overrated and mostly worthless, I don't know what is.

babbys first
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Axiom posted...

When is he going to give up on this fucking wall bs. Most republicans don't even want it

Pretty much the only reason he was elected was because of the promise of tax cuts. That's basically all there is to his support.