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Darmik 04/26/17 7:55:23 PM #1:	http://kotaku.com/localizer-asks-to-be-removed-from-games-credits-after-d-1794678587?IR=T Yesterday, a localizer for the publisher XSEED took a dramatic stance on what he saw as potential censorship, asking his company to remove his name from the credits of the upcoming JRPG Akiba’s Beat after the developers removed a controversial phrase involving the KKK from the game. “I wanted to make a statement,” localization specialist Tom Lipschultz wrote in an e-mail. “I don’t think it’s right to make any change, no matter how minor, for the purpose of ‘sanitizing’ a game.” Akiba’s Beat, a JRPG developed by the Japanese studio Acquire, will be out in North America next month. XSEED is handling publishing and localization in the west, which means they have a staff working to translate the game from Japanese to English, edit that text and determine how best to present it to an English-speaking audience. That also means tweaking the game so some Japanese phrases or jokes aren’t lost. For example, a character whose Japanese name is “Futoshi Futoi,” or “Fatty McFat,” is “Chunk Widebody” in the English version. Localization gets thorny when certain cultural themes don’t make sense in other languages—or, worse, when they’re too controversial. Akiba’s Beat’s “most egregious change,” Lipschultz wrote in an XSEED forum post, had to do with a parody of the Japanese light switch company NKK Switches. A sign in the original Japanese version of the game read “KKK witches,” a play on the phrase. He wrote on XSEED’s forum, “I personally felt ‘KKK witches’ was pretty funny for its shock value, but when I mentioned it to my coworkers, they... were not as amused.” Lipschultz has long been an advocate against what he sees as censorship in localization, and he says his priority is retaining as much of Akiba’s Beat’s original meaning as possible. What a crybaby. It's not supposed to be a KKK reference. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:877967693] in XSEED loca... [t:75282654]...</cite> <quote>http://kotaku.com/localizer-asks-to-be-removed-from-games-credits-after-d-1794678587?IR=T <quote>Yesterday, a localizer for the publisher XSEED took a dramatic stance on what he saw as potential censorship, asking his company to remove his name from the credits of the upcoming JRPG Akiba’s Beat after the developers removed a controversial phrase involving the KKK from the game. “I wanted to make a statement,” localization specialist Tom Lipschultz wrote in an e-mail. “I don’t think it’s right to make any change, no matter how minor, for the purpose of ‘sanitizing’ a game.” Akiba’s Beat, a JRPG developed by the Japanese studio Acquire, will be out in North America next month. XSEED is handling publishing and localization in the west, which means they have a staff working to translate the game from Japanese to English, edit that text and determine how best to present it to an English-speaking audience. That also means tweaking the game so some Japanese phrases or jokes aren’t lost. For example, a character whose Japanese name is “Futoshi Futoi,” or “Fatty McFat,” is “Chunk Widebody” in the English version. Localization gets thorny when certain cultural themes don’t make sense in other languages—or, worse, when they’re too controversial. Akiba’s Beat’s “most egregious change,” Lipschultz wrote in an XSEED forum post, had to do with a parody of the Japanese light switch company NKK Switches. A sign in the original Japanese version of the game read “KKK witches,” a play on the phrase. He wrote on XSEED’s forum, “I personally felt ‘KKK witches’ was pretty funny for its shock value, but when I mentioned it to my coworkers, they... were not as amused.” Lipschultz has long been an advocate against what he sees as censorship in localization, and he says his priority is retaining as much of Akiba’s Beat’s original meaning as possible. </quote> What a crybaby. It's not supposed to be a KKK reference.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blue_Inigo 04/26/17 7:56:43 PM #2:	It's never a good idea to have KKK in your game --- "This is your last dance." <cite>Blue_Inigo posted [p:877967780] in XSEED loca... [t:75282654]...</cite> <quote>It's never a good idea to have KKK in your game</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FlashOfLight 04/26/17 7:57:33 PM #3:	This is EXACTLY what Charlie Williams keeps talking about. --- Leaving GameFAQs in 4 days, thank you for the memories <3 https://www.scribd.com/document/340746101/Arguments <cite>FlashOfLight posted [p:877967828] in XSEED loca... [t:75282654]...</cite> <quote>This is EXACTLY what Charlie Williams keeps talking about.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GiftedACIII 04/26/17 7:58:20 PM #4:	Blue_Inigo posted... It's never a good idea to have KKK in your game Mafia and bioshock infinite did it well --- </topic> <cite>GiftedACIII posted [p:877967883] in XSEED loca... [t:75282654]...</cite> <quote><cite>Blue_Inigo posted...</cite> <quote>It's never a good idea to have KKK in your game</quote> Mafia and bioshock infinite did it well</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Skye Reynolds 04/26/17 7:58:50 PM #5:	https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--cFAcNzEh--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/virqcmzr6sfyuvpnkyxj.png I'd want my name removed from anything which featured those hairstyles. <cite>Skye Reynolds posted [p:877967917] in XSEED loca... [t:75282654]...</cite> <quote>https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--cFAcNzEh--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/virqcmzr6sfyuvpnkyxj.png I'd want my name removed from anything which featured those hairstyles.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 04/26/17 7:59:48 PM #6:	censorship is evil <cite>Zikten posted [p:877967981] in XSEED loca... [t:75282654]...</cite> <quote>censorship is evil</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zikten 04/26/17 8:02:46 PM #8:	kewldude475 posted... Obvious closet racism disguised as someone experiencing social injustice. oh shut up. fuck censorship of any kind <cite>Zikten posted [p:877968169] in XSEED loca... [t:75282654]...</cite> <quote><cite>kewldude475 posted...</cite> <quote>Obvious closet racism disguised as someone experiencing social injustice.</quote> oh shut up. fuck censorship of any kind</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bluebomber182 04/26/17 8:03:49 PM #10:	how long has he been with them because xseed has censored shit before in both ys & trails before --- Not changing this sig until Jinder Mahal becomes WWE champ Started 4/24/17 <cite>Bluebomber182 posted [p:877968226] in XSEED loca... [t:75282654]...</cite> <quote>how long has he been with them because xseed has censored shit before in both ys & trails before</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 04/26/17 8:04:10 PM #11:	Zikten posted... kewldude475 posted... Obvious closet racism disguised as someone experiencing social injustice. oh shut up. fuck censorship of any kind So jokes, references and phrases that make no sense to different countries after being localized should remain in the game no matter what? --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:877968248] in XSEED loca... [t:75282654]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zikten posted...</cite> <quote><cite>kewldude475 posted...</cite> <quote>Obvious closet racism disguised as someone experiencing social injustice.</quote> oh shut up. fuck censorship of any kind</quote> So jokes, references and phrases that make no sense to different countries after being localized should remain in the game no matter what?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Simon_Petrikov 04/26/17 8:07:25 PM #13:	"I personally felt " Acquire immediately responded that they had no idea the sign could be taken that way in English, What a dumb thing to make your anti-censorship stance over, when the devs didn't even intend for the sign in question to be offensive. --- ~The (N)ice King~ http://i.imgur.com/V0NMmmo.png <cite>Simon_Petrikov posted [p:877968430] in XSEED loca... [t:75282654]...</cite> <quote><quote>"I personally felt "</quote> <quote>Acquire immediately responded that they had no idea the sign could be taken that way in English,</quote> What a dumb thing to make your anti-censorship stance over, when the devs didn't even intend for the sign in question to be offensive.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SGT_Conti 04/26/17 8:07:44 PM #14:	It doesn’t make me chuckle on its own, but in the context of appearing on a sign in a busy part of Tokyo, where the business in question obviously had NO IDEA what it meant? That’s pretty funny, if you’ve ever been to Japan. “Engrish” exists as a concept for a reason, and a sign that says “KKK witches” is so out there, so WRONG, that it appearing on a sign is definitely worthy of at LEAST a chuckle, for the absurdity alone. I guess the idea is, I believe it would be funny to the game’s target audience, those being Japanophiles. Because it really is very “Japan.” It looks like he wanted to put a joke where there was none. A year ago, Lipschultz protested when ages were removed from girls’ profiles in Senran Kagura Burst, a game Kotaku’s Brian Ashcraft reports was made because the developer wanted to put boobs in a 3DS game. Lipschultz almost quit. “Changing a 15-year-old to an 18-year-old would suddenly recontextualize a lot of character actions and motivations, turning characters who come across as ‘well-meaning but young and inexperienced’ into characters who simply come across as immature and misguided,” he told former Kotaku reporter Patrick Klepek for a feature on video game “censorship.” Christ, does this guy have a habit of making mountains out of molehills or something? They never de-aged the characters in Senran Kagura, their ages just aren't explicitly stated in the manual or profiles. They're still listed as "1st-year high school student" or whatever. All or most of the third-years are 18 or thereabouts even in the Japanese version. --- "I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be." <cite>SGT_Conti posted [p:877968444] in XSEED loca... [t:75282654]...</cite> <quote>It doesn’t make me chuckle on its own, but in the context of appearing on a sign in a busy part of Tokyo, where the business in question obviously had NO IDEA what it meant? That’s pretty funny, if you’ve ever been to Japan. “Engrish” exists as a concept for a reason, and a sign that says “KKK witches” is so out there, so WRONG, that it appearing on a sign is definitely worthy of at LEAST a chuckle, for the absurdity alone. I guess the idea is, I believe it would be funny to the game’s target audience, those being Japanophiles. Because it really is very “Japan.” It looks like he wanted to put a joke where there was none. A year ago, Lipschultz protested when ages were removed from girls’ profiles in Senran Kagura Burst, a game Kotaku’s Brian Ashcraft reports was made because the developer wanted to put boobs in a 3DS game. Lipschultz almost quit. “Changing a 15-year-old to an 18-year-old would suddenly recontextualize a lot of character actions and motivations, turning characters who come across as ‘well-meaning but young and inexperienced’ into characters who simply come across as immature and misguided,” he told former Kotaku reporter Patrick Klepek for a feature on video game “censorship.” Christ, does this guy have a habit of making mountains out of molehills or something? They never de-aged the characters in Senran Kagura, their ages just aren't explicitly stated in the manual or profiles. They're still listed as "1st-year high school student" or whatever. All or most of the third-years are 18 or thereabouts even in the Japanese version.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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I4NRulez 04/26/17 8:08:47 PM #16:	Simon_Petrikov posted... Darmik posted... I personally felt “Acquire immediately responded that they had no idea the sign could be taken that way in English,” What a dumb thing to make your anti-censorship stance over, when the devs didn't even intend for the sign in question to be offensive. Then why is the change such a big deal? Its a terrible joke thats not a big part of the game. Its not like they changed a main character or something that actually changes the game on a large scale --- The night brims with defiled scum,and is permeated by their rotten stench. Just think. Now you're all set to hunt and kill to your heart's content. <cite>I4NRulez posted [p:877968500] in XSEED loca... [t:75282654]...</cite> <quote><cite>Simon_Petrikov posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>I personally felt </quote> <quote>“Acquire immediately responded that they had no idea the sign could be taken that way in English,”</quote> What a dumb thing to make your anti-censorship stance over, when the devs didn't even intend for the sign in question to be offensive.</quote> Then why is the change such a big deal? Its a terrible joke thats not a big part of the game. Its not like they changed a main character or something that actually changes the game on a large scale</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 04/26/17 8:11:03 PM #17:	It's really weird that he's harping on about retaining the games original meaning when the Western context completely changes what the joke is. He personally just wants to keep it because he finds it funny. Like the original meaning was making fun of a Japanese company. But in Western context it's an 'Engrish joke' What a joke of a localizer. Their job is to localize games. Not to make fun of 'Engrish' --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:877968625] in XSEED loca... [t:75282654]...</cite> <quote>It's really weird that he's harping on about retaining the games original meaning when the Western context completely changes what the joke is. He personally just wants to keep it because he finds it funny. Like the original meaning was making fun of a Japanese company. But in Western context it's an 'Engrish joke' What a joke of a localizer. Their job is to localize games. Not to make fun of 'Engrish'</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SGT_Conti 04/26/17 8:13:15 PM #19:	kewldude475 posted... "The devs didn't intend" you're not a mind reader, so stop. XSEED (sans Lipschultz) e-mailed Acquire asking what originally inspired the sign. Ken Berry, XSEED’s executive vice president, helped explain what the letters meant in the U.S. “Acquire immediately responded that they had no idea the sign could be taken that way in English,” Berry told me in an e-mail. Two weeks later, Acquire removed the phrase from Akiba’s Beat, with no further conversation or discussion, replacing it with “ACQ witches.” They weren't making a KKK joke and didn't even know it could have been taken that way. This isn't an attempt at mind-reading the devs, this was XSEED explicitly asking for clarification on what they did or didn't intend. --- "I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be." <cite>SGT_Conti posted [p:877968748] in XSEED loca... [t:75282654]...</cite> <quote><cite>kewldude475 posted...</cite> <quote>"The devs didn't intend" you're not a mind reader, so stop.</quote> XSEED (sans Lipschultz) e-mailed Acquire asking what originally inspired the sign. Ken Berry, XSEED’s executive vice president, helped explain what the letters meant in the U.S. “Acquire immediately responded that they had no idea the sign could be taken that way in English,” Berry told me in an e-mail. Two weeks later, Acquire removed the phrase from Akiba’s Beat, with no further conversation or discussion, replacing it with “ACQ witches.” They weren't making a KKK joke and didn't even know it could have been taken that way. This isn't an attempt at mind-reading the devs, this was XSEED explicitly asking for clarification on what they did or didn't intend.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Axiom 04/26/17 8:17:18 PM #21:	SGT_Conti posted... kewldude475 posted... "The devs didn't intend" you're not a mind reader, so stop. XSEED (sans Lipschultz) e-mailed Acquire asking what originally inspired the sign. Ken Berry, XSEED’s executive vice president, helped explain what the letters meant in the U.S. “Acquire immediately responded that they had no idea the sign could be taken that way in English,” Berry told me in an e-mail. Two weeks later, Acquire removed the phrase from Akiba’s Beat, with no further conversation or discussion, replacing it with “ACQ witches.” They weren't making a KKK joke and didn't even know it could have been taken that way. This isn't an attempt at mind-reading the devs, this was XSEED explicitly asking for clarification on what they did or didn't intend. This makes sense. Translating from Japanese to English can cause situations like this. So basically the localizer is crying because he liked it and it didn't get put in even though they never even intended for it to be a KKK reference What a little bitch <cite>Axiom posted [p:877968977] in XSEED loca... [t:75282654]...</cite> <quote><cite>SGT_Conti posted...</cite> <quote><cite>kewldude475 posted...</cite> <quote>"The devs didn't intend" you're not a mind reader, so stop.</quote> XSEED (sans Lipschultz) e-mailed Acquire asking what originally inspired the sign. Ken Berry, XSEED’s executive vice president, helped explain what the letters meant in the U.S. “Acquire immediately responded that they had no idea the sign could be taken that way in English,” Berry told me in an e-mail. Two weeks later, Acquire removed the phrase from Akiba’s Beat, with no further conversation or discussion, replacing it with “ACQ witches.” They weren't making a KKK joke and didn't even know it could have been taken that way. This isn't an attempt at mind-reading the devs, this was XSEED explicitly asking for clarification on what they did or didn't intend.</quote> This makes sense. Translating from Japanese to English can cause situations like this. So basically the localizer is crying because he liked it and it didn't get put in even though they never even intended for it to be a KKK reference What a little bitch</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
eston 04/26/17 8:17:53 PM #22:	It means something completely different to American players than it does to Japanese players, and it was not the original intention. As a localizer it is literally his job to make sure stuff like that doesn't go through. --- http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i215/estonc/grizzly_bear_chairs_2.jpg http://i.imgur.com/8kjZU.jpg <cite>eston posted [p:877969015] in XSEED loca... [t:75282654]...</cite> <quote>It means something completely different to American players than it does to Japanese players, and it was not the original intention. As a localizer it is literally his job to make sure stuff like that doesn't go through.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SGT_Conti 04/26/17 8:19:44 PM #23:	kewldude475 posted... what phrase was it, actually? There's a real-life Japanese light switch company called NKK Switches. There was a parody of the brand in the game called KKK Witches. That kind of name change is pretty common in Japanese media, like Steins;Gate's Dk. Pepper or Toradora's Sudohbucks. http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BlandNameProduct --- "I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be." <cite>SGT_Conti posted [p:877969119] in XSEED loca... [t:75282654]...</cite> <quote><cite>kewldude475 posted...</cite> <quote>what phrase was it, actually?</quote> There's a real-life Japanese light switch company called NKK Switches. There was a parody of the brand in the game called KKK Witches. That kind of name change is pretty common in Japanese media, like Steins;Gate's Dk. Pepper or Toradora's Sudohbucks. http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BlandNameProduct</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 04/26/17 8:20:00 PM #24:	kewldude475 posted... what phrase was it, actually? KKK Witches. A spoof brand of Japanese company NKK Switches. You know how you get those spoof company names in games like GTA? Imagine if that spoof name meant something completely different in another country and you had no idea. That's what happened here. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:877969128] in XSEED loca... [t:75282654]...</cite> <quote><cite>kewldude475 posted...</cite> <quote>what phrase was it, actually?</quote> KKK Witches. A spoof brand of Japanese company NKK Switches. You know how you get those spoof company names in games like GTA? Imagine if that spoof name meant something completely different in another country and you had no idea. That's what happened here.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 04/26/17 8:20:01 PM #25:	kewldude475 posted... LOL found the closet racist. found the person who bows down to oppression. I would be saying this no matter what the censorship was. find me any other censorship on earth and i will still condemn it <cite>Zikten posted [p:877969129] in XSEED loca... [t:75282654]...</cite> <quote><cite>kewldude475 posted...</cite> <quote>LOL found the closet racist.</quote> found the person who bows down to oppression. I would be saying this no matter what the censorship was. find me any other censorship on earth and i will still condemn it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Esrac 04/26/17 8:20:26 PM #26:	Should have kept it Fatty McFat. --- http://steamcommunity.com/id/Esrac <cite>Esrac posted [p:877969156] in XSEED loca... [t:75282654]...</cite> <quote>Should have kept it Fatty McFat.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 04/26/17 8:20:31 PM #27:	Darmik posted... So jokes, references and phrases that make no sense to different countries after being localized should remain in the game no matter what? that's not censorship. thats localization. censorship is censoring something because you think it's naughty <cite>Zikten posted [p:877969162] in XSEED loca... [t:75282654]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>So jokes, references and phrases that make no sense to different countries after being localized should remain in the game no matter what?</quote> that's not censorship. thats localization. censorship is censoring something because you think it's naughty</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Darmik 04/26/17 8:21:14 PM #29:	Zikten posted... Darmik posted... So jokes, references and phrases that make no sense to different countries after being localized should remain in the game no matter what? that's not censorship. thats localization. censorship is censoring something because you think it's naughty So how is this censorship? --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:877969197] in XSEED loca... [t:75282654]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zikten posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>So jokes, references and phrases that make no sense to different countries after being localized should remain in the game no matter what?</quote> that's not censorship. thats localization. censorship is censoring something because you think it's naughty</quote> So how is this censorship?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 04/26/17 8:21:55 PM #30:	kewldude475 posted... Darmik posted... kewldude475 posted... what phrase was it, actually? KKK Witches. A spoof brand of Japanese company NKK Switches. You know how you get those spoof company names in games like GTA? Imagine if that spoof name meant something completely different in another country and you had no idea. That's what happened here. The devs aren't stupid they knew. If the localizers knew they probably knew too. Believe it or not but it's entirely possible that Japanese developers don't know the names of hate groups in America. That doesn't mean they're stupid either. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:877969240] in XSEED loca... [t:75282654]...</cite> <quote><cite>kewldude475 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>kewldude475 posted...</cite> <quote>what phrase was it, actually?</quote> KKK Witches. A spoof brand of Japanese company NKK Switches. You know how you get those spoof company names in games like GTA? Imagine if that spoof name meant something completely different in another country and you had no idea. That's what happened here.</quote> The devs aren't stupid they knew. If the localizers knew they probably knew too.</quote> Believe it or not but it's entirely possible that Japanese developers don't know the names of hate groups in America. That doesn't mean they're stupid either.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 04/26/17 8:22:17 PM #31:	it's not. I didn't know the full story. I believed it was a reference to the KKK. I was wrong. sue me <cite>Zikten posted [p:877969255] in XSEED loca... [t:75282654]...</cite> <quote>it's not. I didn't know the full story. I believed it was a reference to the KKK. I was wrong. sue me</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Turbam 04/26/17 8:25:19 PM #33:	Isn't that the game about striping people to reveal they are vampires? --- I'm just one man! Whoa! Well, I'm a one man band! http://i.imgur.com/p9Xvjvs.gif <cite>Turbam posted [p:877969429] in XSEED loca... [t:75282654]...</cite> <quote>Isn't that the game about striping people to reveal they are vampires?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SGT_Conti 04/26/17 8:25:40 PM #34:	kewldude475 posted... Darmik posted... kewldude475 posted... what phrase was it, actually? KKK Witches. A spoof brand of Japanese company NKK Switches. You know how you get those spoof company names in games like GTA? Imagine if that spoof name meant something completely different in another country and you had no idea. That's what happened here. The devs aren't stupid they knew. If the localizers knew they probably knew too. The localizers are American and the devs aren't, so I don't know why you have that qualifier in your post. --- "I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be." <cite>SGT_Conti posted [p:877969451] in XSEED loca... [t:75282654]...</cite> <quote><cite>kewldude475 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>kewldude475 posted...</cite> <quote>what phrase was it, actually?</quote> KKK Witches. A spoof brand of Japanese company NKK Switches. You know how you get those spoof company names in games like GTA? Imagine if that spoof name meant something completely different in another country and you had no idea. That's what happened here.</quote> The devs aren't stupid they knew. If the localizers knew they probably knew too.</quote> The localizers are American and the devs aren't, so I don't know why you have that qualifier in your post.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 04/26/17 8:26:10 PM #35:	Zikten posted... it's not. I didn't know the full story. I believed it was a reference to the KKK. I was wrong. sue me At least read the opening post before getting outraged over stuff. Hell you didn't even need to read the article in this topic. The context of the joke is all there. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:877969476] in XSEED loca... [t:75282654]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zikten posted...</cite> <quote>it's not. I didn't know the full story. I believed it was a reference to the KKK. I was wrong. sue me</quote> At least read the opening post before getting outraged over stuff. Hell you didn't even need to read the article in this topic. The context of the joke is all there.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Unquestionable 04/26/17 8:34:52 PM #37:	Bluebomber182 posted... how long has he been with them because xseed has censored shit before in both ys & trails before What have they censored in Trails? Because from what I've heard from fans of the games who have played the original versions (and even done fan translations) nothing has been changed. --- Immanentize the eschaton <cite>Unquestionable posted [p:877970007] in XSEED loca... [t:75282654]...</cite> <quote><cite>Bluebomber182 posted...</cite> <quote>how long has he been with them because xseed has censored shit before in both ys & trails before </quote> What have they censored in Trails? Because from what I've heard from fans of the games who have played the original versions (and even done fan translations) nothing has been changed.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HiddenRoar 04/26/17 8:45:25 PM #39:	Darmik posted... kewldude475 posted... Darmik posted... kewldude475 posted... what phrase was it, actually? KKK Witches. A spoof brand of Japanese company NKK Switches. You know how you get those spoof company names in games like GTA? Imagine if that spoof name meant something completely different in another country and you had no idea. That's what happened here. The devs aren't stupid they knew. If the localizers knew they probably knew too. Believe it or not but it's entirely possible that Japanese developers don't know the names of hate groups in America. That doesn't mean they're stupid either. kewldude475 posted... Nah. People have called me the N word and it doesn't bother me at all. By definition the N word is an ignorant person, not a black person. Hmm... Surely everyone would know about Hitler and the Holocaust too. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3097640/The-Luft-wafer-Ice-cream-cone-named-Adolf-Hitler-sale-India-sparks-anger-Germany.html http://www.cnn.com/2016/12/27/asia/taiwan-nazi-school-asia/ So according to your logic, all of India and much of Asia are knowingly sympathizing or exhibit positive fascination with Nazis. Ethnocentrism at it's finest. <cite>HiddenRoar posted [p:877970637] in XSEED loca... [t:75282654]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>kewldude475 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>kewldude475 posted...</cite> <quote>what phrase was it, actually?</quote> KKK Witches. A spoof brand of Japanese company NKK Switches. You know how you get those spoof company names in games like GTA? Imagine if that spoof name meant something completely different in another country and you had no idea. That's what happened here.</quote> The devs aren't stupid they knew. If the localizers knew they probably knew too.</quote> Believe it or not but it's entirely possible that Japanese developers don't know the names of hate groups in America. That doesn't mean they're stupid either.</quote> <cite>kewldude475 posted...</cite> <quote> Nah. People have called me the N word and it doesn't bother me at all. By definition the N word is an ignorant person, not a black person.</quote> Hmm... Surely everyone would know about Hitler and the Holocaust too. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3097640/The-Luft-wafer-Ice-cream-cone-named-Adolf-Hitler-sale-India-sparks-anger-Germany.html http://www.cnn.com/2016/12/27/asia/taiwan-nazi-school-asia/ So according to your logic, all of India and much of Asia are knowingly sympathizing or exhibit positive fascination with Nazis. Ethnocentrism at it's finest.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thanosibe 04/26/17 8:48:41 PM #40:	Has anyone at this point in internet history realized "controversies" like this are nothing but free ad revenue and word of mouth? Personally I'd be mad if I didn't get a thank you letter from the developers for all the help you given them. I for one had never heard of this game until I saw this thread. --- I think I need a drink. Almost everybody does only they don't know it. -- Charles Bukowski <cite>thanosibe posted [p:877970812] in XSEED loca... [t:75282654]...</cite> <quote>Has anyone at this point in internet history realized "controversies" like this are nothing but free ad revenue and word of mouth? Personally I'd be mad if I didn't get a thank you letter from the developers for all the help you given them. I for one had never heard of this game until I saw this thread.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LightningAce11 04/26/17 8:49:51 PM #42:	GiftedACIII posted... Blue_Inigo posted... It's never a good idea to have KKK in your game Mafia and bioshock infinite did it well Yeah, but they clearly had you killing the KKK who were bad guys. --- "I'm an atheist too but still believe in hell. That's where you're headed pal." - Mr_Karate_II <cite>LightningAce11 posted [p:877970874] in XSEED loca... [t:75282654]...</cite> <quote><cite>GiftedACIII posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Blue_Inigo posted...</cite> <quote>It's never a good idea to have KKK in your game</quote> Mafia and bioshock infinite did it well</quote> Yeah, but they clearly had you killing the KKK who were bad guys.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solar_Crimson 04/26/17 8:52:21 PM #43:	Guy sounds like a loser. --- http://i.imgur.com/wKOoZkP.jpg http://i.imgur.com/mipFVFw.png http://backloggery.com/SolarCrimson <cite>Solar_Crimson posted [p:877971027] in XSEED loca... [t:75282654]...</cite> <quote>Guy sounds like a loser.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GiftedACIII 04/26/17 8:54:03 PM #44:	LightningAce11 posted... GiftedACIII posted... Blue_Inigo posted... It's never a good idea to have KKK in your game Mafia and bioshock infinite did it well Yeah, but they clearly had you killing the KKK who were bad guys. Yes. I'm just saying there are ways to incorporate the KKK in a game. --- </topic> <cite>GiftedACIII posted [p:877971111] in XSEED loca... [t:75282654]...</cite> <quote><cite>LightningAce11 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GiftedACIII posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Blue_Inigo posted...</cite> <quote>It's never a good idea to have KKK in your game</quote> Mafia and bioshock infinite did it well</quote> Yeah, but they clearly had you killing the KKK who were bad guys.</quote> Yes. I'm just saying there are ways to incorporate the KKK in a game.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HiddenRoar 04/26/17 9:05:20 PM #46:	thanosibe posted... Has anyone at this point in internet history realized "controversies" like this are nothing but free ad revenue and word of mouth? Personally I'd be mad if I didn't get a thank you letter from the developers for all the help you given them. I for one had never heard of this game until I saw this thread. Cause a series whose premise involves the protagonist striping girls to reveal their undergarments wasn't enough word of mouth press when it first came out around 5 years ago. Or the fact that this game came out months ago, but you're only hearing about this now, not from other people who played the game already, but because of a rant by a member from the localization team. <cite>HiddenRoar posted [p:877971747] in XSEED loca... [t:75282654]...</cite> <quote><cite>thanosibe posted...</cite> <quote>Has anyone at this point in internet history realized "controversies" like this are nothing but free ad revenue and word of mouth? Personally I'd be mad if I didn't get a thank you letter from the developers for all the help you given them. I for one had never heard of this game until I saw this thread.</quote> Cause a series whose premise involves the protagonist striping girls to reveal their undergarments wasn't enough word of mouth press when it first came out around 5 years ago. Or the fact that this game came out months ago, but you're only hearing about this now, not from other people who played the game already, but because of a rant by a member from the localization team.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Cookie Bag 04/26/17 9:06:55 PM #48:	XSEED is a top notch localizing company, i wouldn't cry any rivers if they removed this dude though, dude sounds like a moron... --- http://i.imgur.com/mj5Y97b.gif <cite>Cookie Bag posted [p:877971850] in XSEED loca... [t:75282654]...</cite> <quote>XSEED is a top notch localizing company, i wouldn't cry any rivers if they removed this dude though, dude sounds like a moron...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Simon_Petrikov 04/26/17 9:14:03 PM #49:	kewldude475 posted... Honestly if you're mad about this there's a 99% chance you're racist tbh lol Explain. --- ~The (N)ice King~ http://i.imgur.com/V0NMmmo.png <cite>Simon_Petrikov posted [p:877972237] in XSEED loca... [t:75282654]...</cite> <quote><cite>kewldude475 posted...</cite> <quote>Honestly if you're mad about this there's a 99% chance you're racist tbh lol</quote> Explain.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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