Current Events > So, if you guys hate fake facts then why no topic on Elizabeth Warren?

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She claims to be Native American, is proven wrong, Trump calls her Pocahontas - as a joke (as you guys would do to anyone on this board if this happened let's be honest) and somehow this is racist.

Yet, when Bill Maher does it - it's cute and funny. (right to her face, mind you)

And why does Elizabeth Warren have white guilt? She makes up her own heritage because she feels guilty of being white.

And this is the next contender of POTUS?

LOL
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Elizabeth Warren fails to answer a single question in five minute interview

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjhLv_EtOQI
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She's too busy fingering bernie sanders iykwim
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Bump, cuz it's funny, cuz it's true ;(
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isn't she at least partially native American? I mean, even if she only has 1 drop of native American blood in her, she's still allowed to identity with her heritage.

If not, what percentage does someone need to be in order to consider themselves part of a race?

holy s***, she is the insane sjw white guilt liberal stereotype in the flesh
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AugustAdoulin posted...

isn't she at least partially native American? I mean, even if she only has 1 drop of native American blood in her, she's still allowed to identity with her heritage.

If not, what percentage does someone need to be in order to consider themselves part of a race?

if someone finds out they have African blood does that give them the right to start spamming the N word?
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AugustAdoulin posted...

isn't she at least partially native American?

She hasn't produced any actual evidence of Native American heritage.
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AugustAdoulin posted...

I mean, even if she only has 1 drop of native American blood in her, she's still allowed to identity with her heritage.

Huh? That's just dumb. 1 drop doesn't make you Native American.

I'm a black west African. A few hundred years ago there's a bit of Arab blood in there. It would be fucking stupid for me to identify with Arab heritage. It would be a total joke.
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thompsontalker7 posted...

AugustAdoulin posted...

isn't she at least partially native American? I mean, even if she only has 1 drop of native American blood in her, she's still allowed to identity with her heritage.

If not, what percentage does someone need to be in order to consider themselves part of a race?

if someone finds out they have African blood does that give them the right to start spamming the N word?

I guess? I mean everyone has the right to say the N word if they want. Just makes you look like a shitty person.

I don't see Elizabeth making native American slurs anyway.

AugustAdoulin posted...

thompsontalker7 posted...

AugustAdoulin posted...

isn't she at least partially native American? I mean, even if she only has 1 drop of native American blood in her, she's still allowed to identity with her heritage.

If not, what percentage does someone need to be in order to consider themselves part of a race?

if someone finds out they have African blood does that give them the right to start spamming the N word?

I guess? I mean everyone has the right to say the N word if they want. Just makes you look like a shitty person.

I don't see Elizabeth making native American slurs anyway.

disclaimer: I really don't care that much about anyone saying it unless they mean to offend

But that wasn't the best analogy you could've used
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thompsontalker7 posted...

AugustAdoulin posted...

isn't she at least partially native American? I mean, even if she only has 1 drop of native American blood in her, she's still allowed to identity with her heritage.

If not, what percentage does someone need to be in order to consider themselves part of a race?

if someone finds out they have African blood does that give them the right to start spamming the N word?

Maybe.
What has she been doing that you would consider comparable to this?
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her supposed native american heritage was something brought up by her opponent in a senate race trying to sling mud about her past, not her as a reason to trust her on policy or vote for her. i can't remember which--either in applying to law school or applying for her position at the law school after earning her degree she had ticked a box indicating native american ancestry

she defended herself in an interview noting that her family had done some of the cultural things relating to it and it came across poorly, but at no point was she trying to use it to identify herself as an expert on any given issue, but rather to get away from the topic because it was a distraction to the question of 'who would make a good senator for this state'

all efforts by conservative shitpieces thereafter have attempted to attribute the original story to her "claiming to be" something

the only lie here is the claim that she's tried to make something of that history.
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Idgaf whether or not she's actually part Native American? Who cares? The work that she's doing for consumers is what's important. And as far as your Trump/Maher observation. Bill Maher is a comedian. Trump is supposed to be president of the United States.
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Darkman124 posted...

her supposed native american heritage was something brought up by her opponent in a senate race trying to sling mud about her past, not her as a reason to trust her on policy or vote for her. i can't remember which--either in applying to law school or applying for her position at the law school after earning her degree she had ticked a box indicating native american ancestry

she defended herself in an interview noting that her family had done some of the cultural things relating to it and it came across poorly, but at no point was she trying to use it to identify herself as an expert on any given issue, but rather to get away from the topic because it was a distraction to the question of 'who would make a good senator for this state'

all efforts by conservative shitpieces thereafter have attempted to attribute the original story to her "claiming to be" something

basically the opposite of what SJWs do. identity politics is not her thing. she speaks for white liberals who want our economic system to be fairer to labor, much as sanders does, and if anything is the target of SJW ire for not being enough about women's/minority needs because somehow the democratic party platform isn't big enough for social equality AND economic equality

This.

Also, Elizabeth Warren's ancestry isn't exactly new, so I don't know why people would be making topics about it now.
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AugustAdoulin posted...

isn't she at least partially native American? I mean, even if she only has 1 drop of native American blood in her, she's still allowed to identity with her heritage.

If not, what percentage does someone need to be in order to consider themselves part of a race?

At least be traceable up to your great grandmother

but even that is a stretch, but at least you technically knew or where known by the native ancestor and their kid who would he half native which is your grandparent
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Anteaterking posted...

Also, Elizabeth Warren's ancestry isn't exactly new, so I don't know why people would be making topics about it now.

because she is a rising star in the democratic party

and faces both opposition from within the party establishment, which would like to remain fairly quiet on economic inequality issues, and from republicans, who want to actively oppose movement on economic inequality issues
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Darkman124 posted...

her supposed native american heritage was something brought up by her opponent in a senate race trying to sling mud about her past, not her as a reason to trust her on policy or vote for her. i can't remember which--either in applying to law school or applying for her position at the law school after earning her degree she had ticked a box indicating native american ancestry

she defended herself in an interview noting that her family had done some of the cultural things relating to it and it came across poorly, but at no point was she trying to use it to identify herself as an expert on any given issue, but rather to get away from the topic because it was a distraction to the question of 'who would make a good senator for this state'

all efforts by conservative shitpieces thereafter have attempted to attribute the original story to her "claiming to be" something

the only lie here is the claim that she's tried to make something of that history.

Bull. She claimed to be Native American to get a job at Harvard paying $350,000 to teach one class.
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Darkman124 posted...

Anteaterking posted...

Also, Elizabeth Warren's ancestry isn't exactly new, so I don't know why people would be making topics about it now.

because she is a rising star in the democratic party

and faces both opposition from within the party establishment, which would like to remain fairly quiet on economic inequality issues, and from republicans, who want to actively oppose movement on economic inequality issues

That's why she's relevant, but I don't see any "hypocrisy" in bringing up Donald Trump's fake facts from e.g. yesterday versus her ancestry (even if we take the most right leaning point of view).
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Caution999 posted...

Darkman124 posted...

her supposed native american heritage was something brought up by her opponent in a senate race trying to sling mud about her past, not her as a reason to trust her on policy or vote for her. i can't remember which--either in applying to law school or applying for her position at the law school after earning her degree she had ticked a box indicating native american ancestry

she defended herself in an interview noting that her family had done some of the cultural things relating to it and it came across poorly, but at no point was she trying to use it to identify herself as an expert on any given issue, but rather to get away from the topic because it was a distraction to the question of 'who would make a good senator for this state'

all efforts by conservative shitpieces thereafter have attempted to attribute the original story to her "claiming to be" something

the only lie here is the claim that she's tried to make something of that history.

Bull. She claimed to be Native American to get a job at Harvard paying $350,000 to teach one class.

do you have any proof of that? Beyond a tweet?

Should I believe LiberalFAQs or Darkman? Hmmm... lol
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She already lied about being Native American...so...

Why would someone lie about their own ethnicity? This woman is a joke who has white guilt, and has tried to use the diversity quota to help line her own damn pockets.

She's such a snowflake. She needed a way to be "special" and tried to assert she was native American.

If I claimed I was a black person, I'd get laughed off the street.
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Caution999 posted...

Darkman124 posted...

her supposed native american heritage was something brought up by her opponent in a senate race trying to sling mud about her past, not her as a reason to trust her on policy or vote for her. i can't remember which--either in applying to law school or applying for her position at the law school after earning her degree she had ticked a box indicating native american ancestry

she defended herself in an interview noting that her family had done some of the cultural things relating to it and it came across poorly, but at no point was she trying to use it to identify herself as an expert on any given issue, but rather to get away from the topic because it was a distraction to the question of 'who would make a good senator for this state'

all efforts by conservative shitpieces thereafter have attempted to attribute the original story to her "claiming to be" something

the only lie here is the claim that she's tried to make something of that history.

Bull. She claimed to be Native American to get a job at Harvard paying $350,000 to teach one class.

Let's see a source for this nonsense.
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There is no source.

It cannot be proven.


HOWEVER, it can also not be proven wrong either. It's up in the air.
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she contributed a recipe for "pow wow chow" to a native american cookbook that's all the proof of heritage i need
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Caution999 posted...

There is no source.

It cannot be proven.


HOWEVER, it can also not be proven wrong either. It's up in the air.

Yeah, it doesn't work that way.
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Caution999 posted...

There is no source.

It cannot be proven.


HOWEVER, it can also not be proven wrong either. It's up in the air.

so you made it up?
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Caution999 posted...

HOWEVER, it can also not be proven wrong either. It's up in the air.

That's not how reality works there, chief

For anyone who wants an extensive history of the topic I recommend reading this.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/everything-you-need-to-know-about-the-controversy-over-elizabeth-warrens-claimed-native-american-heritage/2012/09/27/d0b7f568-08a5-11e2-a10c-fa5a255a9258_blog.html

She's been casually claiming Native American heritage for decades.
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Darkman124 posted...

Anteaterking posted...

Also, Elizabeth Warren's ancestry isn't exactly new, so I don't know why people would be making topics about it now.

because she is a rising star in the democratic party

and faces both opposition from within the party establishment, which would like to remain fairly quiet on economic inequality issues, and from republicans, who want to actively oppose movement on economic inequality issues

Lol who in the party is trying oppose Warren. I mean BernieBros (not all bernie supporters are BernieBros disclaimer) were when she refused to endorse anyone, but that's about it.

She lied about being Native American which may have led her to get the edge on getting the job. That's where there is no proof.

So, either you believe she's a special snowflake who wanted to be special and say she's "Native American"

Or you believe she did that to get the job to satisfy a diversity quota.


There is no middle ground because she was proven wrong to NOT be Native American and went around saying she was.

Pick one.
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Notice the woman reporter trying not to laugh. Trump's great.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPRV5RZgN-E
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Caution999 posted...

If I claimed I was a black person, I'd get laughed off the street.

No. If you claimed you was black, and had some black heritage in you. Then you are black. (I guess you forgot about the 1 drop rule)
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Shes a female liberal. She can do no wrong...

Even tho shes a bitch
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Caution999 posted...

There is no source.

It cannot be proven.


HOWEVER, it can also not be proven wrong either. It's up in the air.

The precise reason why having a discussion on CE is a waste of time.
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"I hope they donate their bodies to science so I can dissect them"
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KingCrabCake posted...

Shes a female liberal. She can do no wrong...

Even tho shes a bitch

On what basis do you make that claim? Do you know her? Have you met her? Are you offended by her being one of the few people in the Senate who actually works in the interest of average people?
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MrOldSchool posted...

Idgaf whether or not she's actually part Native American? Who cares? The work that she's doing for consumers is what's important. And as far as your Trump/Maher observation. Bill Maher is a comedian. Trump is supposed to be president of the United States.

Racism is racism no matter your profession
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MrOldSchool posted...

KingCrabCake posted...

Shes a female liberal. She can do no wrong...

Even tho shes a bitch

On what basis do you make that claim? Do you know her? Have you met her? Are you offended by her being one of the few people in the Senate who actually works in the interest of average people?

Shes my next door neighbor. She is always listening to music loudly at night and doesnt recycle.
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AlephZero posted...

For anyone who wants an extensive history of the topic I recommend reading this.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/everything-you-need-to-know-about-the-controversy-over-elizabeth-warrens-claimed-native-american-heritage/2012/09/27/d0b7f568-08a5-11e2-a10c-fa5a255a9258_blog.html

She's been casually claiming Native American heritage for decades.

The Boston Herald reported in April that Warren had listed herself as a minority in the American Association of Law Schools directory and that Harvard Law School had touted her supposed lineage when the program faced doubts about faculty diversity.

Critics pounced on the news, suggesting Warren had feigned Native American ancestry to enhance her teaching prospects.

The Democratic candidate stumbled early on in reacting to this controversy. At one point, Warren cited remarks that her aunt Bea made about high cheekbones in the family as evidence of her indigenous ancestry. She said she listed herself as a minority in the professional listings merely to connect with “people like me,” noting that it was “not a particularly good use for the directory, because it never happened.”

Harvard hired Warren for a temporary position in 1992, and the law school reported a Native American woman on its federally mandated affirmative-action report. The program did not report a Native American woman for 1993 through 1995, during which time Warren was back at Penn —

LMAO
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shockthemonkey posted...

Caution999 posted...

There is no source.

lmfao and you still made this topic?

Read the rest of the topic - there is a point I'm leading you to. :)
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KingCrabCake posted...

MrOldSchool posted...

Idgaf whether or not she's actually part Native American? Who cares? The work that she's doing for consumers is what's important. And as far as your Trump/Maher observation. Bill Maher is a comedian. Trump is supposed to be president of the United States.

Racism is racism no matter your profession

Makes no difference. If you are surprised by a potentially racist comment coming from a comedian then you are the snowflake. The president of the United States shouldn't even be addressing this period.
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shockthemonkey posted...

Caution999 posted...

There is no source.

lmfao and you still made this topic?

Well just look at the responses. CE doesn't give a shit about sources or actually knowing what you're taking about.
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MrOldSchool posted...

KingCrabCake posted...

MrOldSchool posted...

Idgaf whether or not she's actually part Native American? Who cares? The work that she's doing for consumers is what's important. And as far as your Trump/Maher observation. Bill Maher is a comedian. Trump is supposed to be president of the United States.

Racism is racism no matter your profession

Makes no difference. If you are surprised by a potentially racist comment coming from a comedian then you are the snowflake. The president of the United States shouldn't even be addressing this period.

It's not even a racist comment, though. She's NOT Native American. Before you compare it to the "N" Word - remember, the name Pocahontas isn't a slur. It's a name.
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3rd_Best_Master posted...

shockthemonkey posted...

Caution999 posted...

There is no source.

lmfao and you still made this topic?

Well just look at the responses. CE doesn't give a shit about sources or actually knowing what you're taking about.

someone else posted a source though


https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/everything-you-need-to-know-about-the-controversy-over-elizabeth-warrens-claimed-native-american-heritage/2012/09/27/d0b7f568-08a5-11e2-a10c-fa5a255a9258_blog.html
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Caution999 posted...

MrOldSchool posted...

KingCrabCake posted...

MrOldSchool posted...

Idgaf whether or not she's actually part Native American? Who cares? The work that she's doing for consumers is what's important. And as far as your Trump/Maher observation. Bill Maher is a comedian. Trump is supposed to be president of the United States.

Racism is racism no matter your profession

Makes no difference. If you are surprised by a potentially racist comment coming from a comedian then you are the snowflake. The president of the United States shouldn't even be addressing this period.

It's not even a racist comment, though. She's NOT Native American. Before you compare it to the "N" Word - remember, the name Pocahontas isn't a slur. It's a name.

Just like Aunt Jemima. There's nothing untoward about calling a black woman that, it's just a name.
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I agree with both your your comments. I added the word "potentially" and left it at that. There are enough arguments taking place in this thread as it is, but again you are correct in that it's not even a racist comment.
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