Current Events > anybody friends with really bad arguers?

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like, my friend wastes a lot of food (regularly leaves plates unfinished, buys bottles of coke only to drink a third or two of it before throwing it into the garbage, etc.), and it frustrates me cause we both come from poor households and we only ever hang out in san francisco (so the least he could do is give his leftovers to a homeless person or whatever)


anyway, it'll go like:

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(at dinner)

me: dude, you're really gonna waste all of that?

him: well sorry i don't care about all of the starving kids in africa like you do, [me]!"

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yeah...

like, a totally random outburst about something i've never even mentioned

wtf
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fenderbender321 posted...

You sound like a fun person to hang out with...

I'm gonna go with this
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... cause it bugs me that people waste food?



then yeah, sure
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My boyfriend
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He's making a point that he doesn't care about wasting food as much as you do, get over it.
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Kazi1212 posted...

He's making a point that he doesn't care about wasting food as much as you do, get over it.

by citing something i've never said, yeah
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truly_FLCL posted...

Kazi1212 posted...

He's making a point that he doesn't care about wasting food as much as you do, get over it.

by citing something i've never said, yeah

I don't know if you're familiar with human interaction but not everything that is said is meant to be taken 100% literally.
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you should break up with him
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That's not even what he means. If he's full, he shouldn't finish it. It's bad for him. He loses the same money on the food regardless. Just in one instance, he overate.
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Kazi1212 posted...

I don't know if you're familiar with human interaction but not everything that is said is meant to be taken 100% literally.

are you dense?

what does interpreting what he said literally or figuratively have to do with anything?


it was a strawman

hence, bad arguer

that's all the topic is about
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Can we get more examples or is this just about food?
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chill02 posted...

fenderbender321 posted...

You sound like a fun person to hang out with...

I'm gonna go with this

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mr jump to conclusions

lol sounds like how a woman would argue
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That doesn't really sound like an argument though.
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http://www.dictionary.com/browse/hyperbole
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salvage your friendship by forcing yourself to eat all of his leftovers so that neither of you have a source of complaint
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Squall28 posted...

That's not even what he means. If he's full, he shouldn't finish it. It's bad for him. He loses the same money on the food regardless. Just in one instance, he overate.

uh, no, it's not "bad for him" to finish his plate, nor is it a "one instance" thing since he does this all of the time


it's not even about the money, either

it's more that he should know better considering his background and not take things for granted

and even if he really couldn't finish it, we're in san francisco where there are plenty of homeless to give your leftovers to as opposed to throwing it out




but if thinking like this makes me a "fun" person, then w/e

ce always sides against the tc anyway



chill02 posted...

Can we get more examples or is this just about food?

there are others, but none came to mind as clearly

dude's pretty uneducated and ignorant in general, tho



KainWind posted...

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/hyperbole

hyperbole doesn't work like that, dude

it's like when anti-gay marriage people were like, "oh, so you guys wanna be able to marry your pets and your furniture and your cars too, right?!"


you can't just hyperbolize a stance into something riduclous that was never said
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ironically, you strike me as a pretty bad debater yourself
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angus

it's not a strawman, he's not debating you. stop trying to cite logical fallacies in casual conversation
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While you're on your high horse, what else do you preach about?

chill02 posted...

ironically, you strike me as a pretty bad debater yourself

I'll debate your face

My roommate currently has three open bottles of water in the fridge right now. How do you drink three different bottles of water and not finish any of them? He regularly buys a bunch of groceries every other week that I either end up eating or throwing away because he doesnt cook the damn food and it spoils.
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Yes I'm friends with lots of women.
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Wow, I thought it was gonna be something else, you know every time me and my friend get into an argument they get really angry and just call me a "douche bag" whenever I start winning.

Anyway why would he give his leftovers to a homeless person? If he's done, he's done, and I recommend you get over it.

Also out of pure curiosity, do you regularly give leftovers to homeless people?
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this topic is such shit

like one or two people actually contributed


rest was just ganging-up-on-tc hive mentality bs



seriously, you guys somehow gleaned that i'm "fun" to be around and a "bad debater" myself from... what exactly?

just thinking that food shouldn't be wasted and bringing it up to a friend?


like, those two lines of dialogue are as far as those conversations usually ever go; i always drop it after his dumb retorts
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truly_FLCL posted...

seriously, you guys somehow gleaned that i'm "fun" to be around and a "bad debater" myself from... what exactly?

this topic
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truly_FLCL posted...

rest was just ganging-up-on-tc hive mentality bs

This is probably one of the few topics I've seen where it is 100% unjustified for CE to do it. Usually there's at least some kind of point to their rebuking the TC, but in this case they're literally trying to justify food waste.
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infinitydev2020 posted...

Anyway why would he give his leftovers to a homeless person? If he's done, he's done, and I recommend you get over it.

Also out of pure curiosity, do you regularly give leftovers to homeless people?

uh, cause it's a waste of perfectly good food?


and not usually, no, since i finish my plates

but on the rare occasions that i don't, then yes, i have left my doggie bags next to sleeping homeless dudes or on benches or wherever
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truly_FLCL posted...

this topic is such shit

like one or two people actually contributed


rest was just ganging-up-on-tc hive mentality bs



seriously, you guys somehow gleaned that i'm "fun" to be around and a "bad debater" myself from... what exactly?

just thinking that food shouldn't be wasted and bringing it up to a friend?


like, those two lines of dialogue are as far as those conversations usually ever go; i always drop it after his dumb retorts

lol tc is salty as fuck
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truly_FLCL posted...

this topic is such s***

like one or two people actually contributed


rest was just ganging-up-on-tc hive mentality bs

I think it's because the topic title set up this topic to be about bad argument techniques that people around you use, but it really seems like you just wanted to rant about food waste.
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JRaasin posted...

lol tc is salty as fuck

yeah, no shit



Anteaterking posted...

I think it's because the topic title set up this topic to be about bad argument techniques that people around you use, but it really seems like you just wanted to rant about food waste.

i provided one sentence's worth of backstory for context

and then two short lines of dialogue




... oh god, you're right, didn't realize how brimming i was with the need to rant looking back at it now

glad i got it out of my system, phew
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Anteaterking posted...

truly_FLCL posted...

this topic is such s***

like one or two people actually contributed


rest was just ganging-up-on-tc hive mentality bs

I think it's because the topic title set up this topic to be about bad argument techniques that people around you use, but it really seems like you just wanted to rant about food waste.

this
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uh, no, it's not "bad for him" to finish his plate, nor is it a "one instance" thing since he does this all of the time

Overeating is bad for him. If he feels full, he should stop eating. When I said in one instance, I'm comparing the two options when a person buys too much food.

1. He doesn't finish it. There's zero additional loss here. He pays the same amount for the meal regardless.

2. He finishes it. He has to force himself to eat when full which sucks, and he's eating unneeded calories that can lead to obesity.

Your lack of understanding of what people mean when they talk is the problem here, not your friend. Additionally, the homeless do not fucking want your left over scraps. Don't act so damn noble about it. If you guys really want to make a difference, buy less, no more than you need, and donate that money.
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Yes, my best friend is a bad arguer, but more in that he makes excuses for shit as opposed to stating a justification.
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I don't think he was really trying to argue per se, but just get you off his case by pointing out that you're nagging like a mother to a child.

Off-topic, though, the starving kids in Africa thing is the dumbest thing parents have ever come up with. It doesn't motivate kids to eat their vegetables, and I can't even figure out how it's supposed to. There are starving kids in Africa? How awful. If I eat myself into a coma, this will surely make them feel better. Any kid who thinks about it for two seconds will reply to their parents that we should send it to them. Now the kid doesn't have to eat and the kids in Africa get this food that they want so badly.

Of course nobody ever had to tell me that. I didn't like my vegetables but I liked food so...
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Anyway, I am, myself, a bad arguer. I've always been terrible at it. I'm sure CE already knows this though.
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DevsBro posted...

I don't think he was really trying to argue per se, but just get you off his case by pointing out that you're nagging like a mother to a child.

Off-topic, though, the starving kids in Africa thing is the dumbest thing parents have ever come up with. It doesn't motivate kids to eat their vegetables, and I can't even figure out how it's supposed to. There are starving kids in Africa? How awful. If I eat myself into a coma, this will surely make them feel better. Any kid who thinks about it for two seconds will reply to their parents that we should send it to them. Now the kid doesn't have to eat and the kids in Africa get this food that they want so badly.

Of course nobody ever had to tell me that. I didn't like my vegetables but I liked food so...

I don't know why, but my response as a kid was always we should buy less food, so the food prices don't go up. No idea why supply and demand was in my head at that age.
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So TC is the bad arguer in this situation.
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...

So TC is the bad arguer in this situation.

Doesn't seem to be doing so hot here, imo
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Honestly, I want to say he's trolling but I believe there are people on CE with such poor social skills and limited interaction that they'd respond to the "kids in Africa" quip as tc had.
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It sounds like he's got some hidden guilt for him to just go off about how he's starving kids in Africa

Your friend is an African warlord
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@truly_FLCL

why do i know your username

did you used to play yugioh

or did you used to post in the NFLB

which one is it
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