Current Events > Should same sex gay couples be legally allowed to adopt children?

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UnfairRepresent
05/04/17 10:36:54 AM
#1:


In your opinion?



I was just reading up on some places where it is legal for a gay man to adopt a child so long as he is single. But if he was marred or in a steady live-in relationship, then it would illegal.

That seems insane to me, but a lot of people really still oppose the idea and think it should not happen

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Giant_Aspirin
05/04/17 10:37:42 AM
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what does "same sex gay couples" mean, exactly and how are they different from just "gay couples" or "same sex couples" ?
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GODTIER
05/04/17 10:38:59 AM
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maybe he meant same sex interracial couples given the picture

if so plz -1 for yes and +1 for no
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FF_Redux
05/04/17 10:39:01 AM
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As opposed to opposite sex gay couples? Or same sex straight couples??
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epik_fail1
05/04/17 10:39:18 AM
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Yes as long as they are able to have a stable relationship(I also feel the same about straight people).
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lilORANG
05/04/17 10:39:23 AM
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No. The more orphans the better!
of fucking course, what kind of question is this?
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Sayoria
05/04/17 10:39:34 AM
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Sure, we can have alcoholics be parents, but God forbid a child be raised by two loving dads or moms.
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UnfairRepresent
05/04/17 10:40:44 AM
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lilORANG posted...
No. The more orphans the better!
of fucking course, what kind of question is this?

There is a lot of strong opposition to this. It is illegal in most countries and even parts of America oppose it intensely.

Strangely Mexico seems cool with it.

Sayoria posted...
Sure, we can have alcoholics be parents, but God forbid a child be raised by two loving dads or moms.


The counterpoint here is that we wouldn't let known alcoholics adopt kids.

Adoption agencies are already getting flack for not being strict enough
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lilORANG
05/04/17 10:42:50 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
There is a lot of strong opposition to this.

just because idiots oppose something doesn't mean we should listen to them lol.
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Lorenzo_2003
05/04/17 10:43:46 AM
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Sure, let gay couples have them. A lot of us obviously do not want to do it.
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Blue_Dream87
05/04/17 10:43:58 AM
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Hell yeah. I don't belong to any religions that have adverse views of homosexuality so I got no reason to keep gay people from being able to raise families and aid the life of an unfortunate child.

I actually got a little heated over a discussion regarding interracial adoption, kinda sorta carries over here even though I think there are even less rational reasons to be against homosexual couples adopting
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Tappor
05/04/17 10:44:02 AM
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Obviously
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UnfairRepresent
05/04/17 10:44:10 AM
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lilORANG posted...

just because idiots oppose something doesn't mean we should listen to them lol.

That's a little close minded don't you think?
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lilORANG
05/04/17 10:44:25 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
lilORANG posted...

just because idiots oppose something doesn't mean we should listen to them lol.

That's a little close minded don't you think?

no
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KingCrabCake
05/04/17 10:44:59 AM
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No reason not to vote yes
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UnfairRepresent
05/04/17 10:45:00 AM
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Blue_Dream87 posted...


I actually got a little heated over a discussion regarding interracial adoption, kinda sorta carries over here even though I think there are even less rational reasons to be against homosexual couples adopting

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RedZaraki
05/04/17 10:45:15 AM
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same sex gay couples


What other kinds of gay couples are there?
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lilORANG
05/04/17 10:46:06 AM
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RedZaraki posted...
same sex gay couples


What other kinds of gay couples are there?

one of the members could be transgender, so their sex isn't the same but they both identify as homosexual.
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DifferentialEquation
05/04/17 10:48:26 AM
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Yes. And I would give them preference over single persons who want to adopt.
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UnfairRepresent
05/04/17 10:54:52 AM
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Very one sided poll results so far
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Sayoria
05/04/17 10:59:44 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Very one sided poll results so far


Well, what logical arguments are there against it without it being a gender-stereotypical argument that men provide what women can't and vice versa?
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Melonfarms
05/04/17 11:02:10 AM
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Gay couples are no more or less qualified to raise children than strait couples.
I'm sure given the choice, children would chose two moms or dads over an alcoholic standard household.
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lilORANG
05/04/17 11:03:30 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Very one sided poll results so far

because only idiots vote no.
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UnfairRepresent
05/04/17 11:05:29 AM
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Sayoria posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
Very one sided poll results so far


Well, what logical arguments are there against it without it being a gender-stereotypical argument that men provide what women can't and vice versa?


Off a quick google search
http://www.frc.org/get.cfm?i=if04g01
http://www.debatingeurope.eu/focus/arguments-gay-adoption/#.WQtC16K1vcc
http://www.europe4christ.net/index.php?id=548

First three sites.
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Anarchy_Juiblex
05/04/17 11:05:41 AM
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Of course.
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Sayoria
05/04/17 11:18:53 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Sayoria posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
Very one sided poll results so far


Well, what logical arguments are there against it without it being a gender-stereotypical argument that men provide what women can't and vice versa?


Off a quick google search
http://www.frc.org/get.cfm?i=if04g01
http://www.debatingeurope.eu/focus/arguments-gay-adoption/#.WQtC16K1vcc
http://www.europe4christ.net/index.php?id=548

First three sites.


Boy, Conservative funded pages. The FRC isn't just against gay marriage. That one is classified as a hate group.
https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/group/family-research-council

And Europe4Christ in the title already has bias written all over it.
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UnfairRepresent
05/04/17 11:21:08 AM
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"What arguments are there."

"Well here's some"

"They're conservatives!"

This is kinda what I meant abouit lilORANG being closed minded.
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Sayoria
05/04/17 11:22:55 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
"What arguments are there."

"Well here's some"

"They're conservatives!"

This is kinda what I meant abouit lilORANG being closed minded.


Those sources falsify information.
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UnfairRepresent
05/04/17 11:24:12 AM
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Then they should be easy for you to disprove
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ThyCorndog
05/04/17 11:24:16 AM
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lilORANG posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
Very one sided poll results so far

because only idiots vote no.

Yeah but we should give the 5% of people who are against it an equal platform in debates

jk lmao
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lilORANG
05/04/17 11:24:30 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
"What arguments are there."

"Well here's some"

"They're conservatives!"

This is kinda what I meant abouit lilORANG being closed minded.

he asked for logical arguments. When the choice is between keeping kids in orphanages or damaging foster care systems, and giving them parents, there's literally only one right answer.

some studies that say kids might socialize differently than their peers doesn't change that. You're still better off with parents who can provide for you.
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Sayoria
05/04/17 11:25:05 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Then they should be easy for you to disprove


I jsut posted the SPLCenter right there. They specialize in outing hate groups and outlining their lies.
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Offworlder1
05/04/17 11:26:30 AM
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A good home is a good home, does not matter who or what the people adopting are.
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UnfairRepresent
05/04/17 11:27:18 AM
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Offworlder1 posted...
A good home is a good home, does not matter who or what the people adopting are.

Now this I do NOT agree with.
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TheMeanRock
05/04/17 11:58:38 AM
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There's no doubt that something is lost when you don't have both genders to rear the children. Men and women are wired differently and care for children in different ways. I am definitely of the opinion that a good hetero couple is a better environment than a good homosexual couple. Based entirely on the difference between men and women. (Nothing to do with the morality argument of homosexuality).

That said, there are tons of children in foster care. Anybody who is willing to adopt a child in good faith should be able to.
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YourDrunkFather
05/04/17 12:01:47 PM
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Nah. Just same sex straight couples and opposite sex gay couples.
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OctilIery
05/04/17 12:01:54 PM
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TheMeanRock posted...
There's no doubt that something is lost when you don't have both genders to rear the children.

Nope.
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UnfairRepresent
05/04/17 12:03:08 PM
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OctilIery posted...
TheMeanRock posted...
There's no doubt that something is lost when you don't have both genders to rear the children.

Nope.

Stellar counterargument
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green butter
05/04/17 12:07:21 PM
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YourDrunkFather posted...
Nah. Just same sex straight couples and opposite sex gay couples.

same sex straight couples would be great, just two bros hanging out, raising a kid together, both inviting ladies over for netflix & chill on friday night
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Shadowplay
05/04/17 12:07:55 PM
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Glad that Unfair is up to his old antiquated joke gimmick of redundant pointless term phrases.
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UnfairRepresent
05/04/17 12:09:34 PM
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Shadowplay posted...
Glad that Unfair is up to his old antiquated joke gimmick of redundant pointless term phrases.

What have I said that was redundant?
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CruelBuffalo
05/04/17 12:11:55 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Blue_Dream87 posted...


I actually got a little heated over a discussion regarding interracial adoption, kinda sorta carries over here even though I think there are even less rational reasons to be against homosexual couples adopting

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/511417802926731264/vjBBtROR.jpeg


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UnfairRepresent
05/04/17 12:13:34 PM
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I'm not trolling, I just don't get what he was trying to say there. He seemed to say there's rational reasons to be against inter-racial couples having kids.

I thought that line of thought in the US died out during the Korean war.
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Foppe
05/04/17 12:13:36 PM
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If they are fit to take care of children and can give them a good home, then their sexually preferences shouldnt matter.
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CruelBuffalo
05/04/17 12:14:22 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
I'm not trolling, I just don't get what he was trying to say there. He seemed to say there's rational reasons to be against inter-racial couples having kids.

I thought that line of thought in the US died out during the Korean war.

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UnfairRepresent
05/04/17 12:15:25 PM
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CruelBuffalo posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
I'm not trolling, I just don't get what he was trying to say there. He seemed to say there's rational reasons to be against inter-racial couples having kids.

I thought that line of thought in the US died out during the Korean war.

Imagine pretending not to understand to continue trolling about a topic like gay adoption.

Easy to imagine because I legitimately don't understand and wasn't trolling.


What's your beef with interracial couples having kids?
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CruelBuffalo
05/04/17 12:16:38 PM
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*yawn*
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Trigg3rH4ppy
05/04/17 12:25:31 PM
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@OctilIery posted...
TheMeanRock posted...
There's no doubt that something is lost when you don't have both genders to rear the children.

Nope.

Source?
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