Board 8 > Chrono Cross Mafia Topic 3 - Viper Manor: Nikki, Guile, or Pierre?

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nana fill me in on how the sk flavor fits into the scum theory flavor of dragoon
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Nanahara715 posted...

benjamin3740 posted...

Nanahara715 posted...

benjamin3740 posted...

Leafeon13N posted...

Ben you are either completely terrible or scum.

What why am i terrible? >_> I didnt read Mzero town at any point in the game. Which post did it for you? Because i dont remember you saying all this till now that he's dead. Like when he said he's been playing Miller exactly how he was always told and didnt understand why he was being killed when he played it perfectly. That doesnt come off as genuine to me

And that's worse than Oddity's scummy actions and bullshit claim?

You mentioned Crystal Chronicles mafia, in which I also killed Plum who claimed watcher due to his scummy behavior. I was lectured by people in that game to never risk it all like that and lynch Town power claims without giving it some more thought. I think it was smart to give oddity a shot at using his ability if he ends up being town watcher. But now with his flip on it being tracker, I agree I probably made the wrong choice last night.

You and I aren't talking about the same game.

but that's the one when plum was a moogle.
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Like I just decided to do a brief Ctrl+F on red's posts Day 1 (A little annoying because of the two accounts but I worked on it anyway) and found literally nothing on MZero.

Like yeah he said Ulti was lying but nothing regarding MZero. Seems more like creating hindsight and trying to guilt us and take control.

Also Corrik claimed to be NeoFio no idea if that's actually correct
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because I thought he was scum. On reread he didn't seem to me to be his town self that I saw last game. He's more inactive and less excited about the game. Turned out I was right.
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Votals
[2] Ulti - Oddity, Scare
[1] Oddity - Nana

Day Ends Saturday 10PM EST
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Oddity posted...

no... I figured I'd be lynched if I claimed 'watcher with a tracker's power.' It's nonsensical and looks desperate to town, who will then capitalize on your weakness. So I only half claimed in order to remain alive.

This is the dumbest logic ever.

"I claimed Watcher as my role because I didn't want to claim that my actual role was tracker but that my PM said Watcher."

Just fucking claim tracker. No one needs to know your PM says watcher. Just claim your actual fucking abilities.
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Hm, real question is why isn't Oddity role-

Oh, Bus Driver. I think. Maybe? Does that make sense?
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If you are bus driver you swap the claimed power. Come on people, this wasn't that complicated.

Oddity posted...

no... I figured I'd be lynched if I claimed 'watcher with a tracker's power.' It's nonsensical and looks desperate to town, who will then capitalize on your weakness. So I only half claimed in order to remain alive.

But then just claim tracker and skip the watcher? Idk,I also can't figure out why you'd do any of this as scum. Let's hear what ulti says
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Oddity posted...

no... I figured I'd be lynched if I claimed 'watcher with a tracker's power.' It's nonsensical and looks desperate to town, who will then capitalize on your weakness. So I only half claimed in order to remain alive.

Look if I were in your position, and I think most people would, they would just claim tracker outright. Heck they'd probably just say the whole thing despite how weird it is because they have nothing to hide. People aren't afraid of telling the truth when they're town, I would say even especially when they have something more interesting to say about their role.

The last thing you would do is claim something confusing that you'd have to explain basically immediately.
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ScareChan posted...

nana fill me in on how the sk flavor fits into the scum theory flavor of dragoon

Lynx is a non-dragoon antagonist.
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who's this benjamin guy and why is he saying the same stuff as me but a little bit faster
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I asked the host. My flavor makes no sense as a tracker. He does make sense as a watcher. Considering I have no safe list, I had to claim what my flavor said I was.
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benjamin3740 posted...

Oddity posted...

no... I figured I'd be lynched if I claimed 'watcher with a tracker's power.' It's nonsensical and looks desperate to town, who will then capitalize on your weakness. So I only half claimed in order to remain alive.

But then just claim tracker and skip the watcher? Idk,I also can't figure out why you'd do any of this as scum. Let's hear what ulti says

I can't figure out why he'd do any of this as town.
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Seems like eaedwards literally built this game split like FF7

Scum = Turks/Dragoons

SK = Lynx/Seph

Probably?
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who was your flavor again
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The reason Radius is a watcher is because he's an old man now, who watches things pass him by. Watch is featured heavily in my flavor, edwards thought that watch was actually the track power, but the flavor doesn't fit a tracker as far as I can tell.
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Nanahara715 posted...

benjamin3740 posted...

Oddity posted...

no... I figured I'd be lynched if I claimed 'watcher with a tracker's power.' It's nonsensical and looks desperate to town, who will then capitalize on your weakness. So I only half claimed in order to remain alive.

But then just claim tracker and skip the watcher? Idk,I also can't figure out why you'd do any of this as scum. Let's hear what ulti says

I can't figure out why he'd do any of this as town.

Yeah, maybe I should be listening to you, I just start to get the feeling it's like your brainwashing technique, using guilt from my mistakes to make me vote alongside you. I say that because your scum team did it to me ALSO in crystal chronichles mafia
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Uh....huh....

did ea ever do something like that before
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Oddity posted...

The reason Radius is a watcher is because he's an old man now, who watches things pass him by. Watch is featured heavily in my flavor, edwards thought that watch was actually the track power, but the flavor doesn't fit a tracker as far as I can tell.

I've made this mistake as a host before.
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And you saw Ulti visit the dead Bus Driver?
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benjamin3740 posted...

Nanahara715 posted...

benjamin3740 posted...

Oddity posted...

no... I figured I'd be lynched if I claimed 'watcher with a tracker's power.' It's nonsensical and looks desperate to town, who will then capitalize on your weakness. So I only half claimed in order to remain alive.

But then just claim tracker and skip the watcher? Idk,I also can't figure out why you'd do any of this as scum. Let's hear what ulti says

I can't figure out why he'd do any of this as town.

Yeah, maybe I should be listening to you, I just start to get the feeling it's like your brainwashing technique, using guilt from my mistakes to make me vote alongside you. I say that because your scum team did it to me ALSO in crystal chronichles mafia

That's my whole point, Town literally lost Crystal Chronicles mafia because despite me being completely inactive for four fucking days and being scummy as hell, they bought a fake cop claim from me on Day 5.

Judge the player by actions, not their claimed role.
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Yes, pj, I did.
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Also i specifically mentioned that if we were going after the millers we should go after ulti first because hes more likely to gambit.

And screw you mafia for killing corrik. Definitely a very ulti kill though, so it makes sense.

VeryInsane posted...

Fine I'll ping his other accounts

@UltiWasRight @UItimaterializer @AheadoftheCurve @EverythingSnob @Ultixx

Am I missing anybody else?

@UltimaterializerX

GET IN HERE!

And uh... yeah because why not I like popcorn
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We dont really need ulti in here tbh. Continue the day as if Ulti doesn't exist.

Lets just lynch Ulti

it will also help clear oddity
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It does not necessarily clear Oddity, but that is not a conversation worth having yet.

Well either way

How about you throw your vote down to help this move along Red
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Got to let everybody check in first.

ScareChan posted...

Lets just lynch Ulti

it will also help clear oddity

Why do you say clear Oddity? I was just thinking - if Ulti is scum then after Mzero's death the scum team probably considers Ulti such a throwaway member that they wouldn't mind feeding him to a bussing scum.
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##Vote: Ulti

I guess it's real claim time or real pain time
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Also red can you answer VI's question. I ask because it was also something I asked you in my response to being called terrible
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because I am working under assumtion of 3 man team
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benjamin3740 posted...

ScareChan posted...

Lets just lynch Ulti

it will also help clear oddity

Why do you say clear Oddity? I was just thinking - if Ulti is scum then after Mzero's death the scum team probably considers Ulti such a throwaway member that they wouldn't mind feeding him to a bussing scum.

The only thing that helps is Oddity not claiming rb means if he were scum he took a big risk that someone else didnt catvh a bus driver target.

So actually, thinking on it further, I'm going to say Oddity is probably a safe bet as town.

Leafeon13N posted...

benjamin3740 posted...

ScareChan posted...

Lets just lynch Ulti

it will also help clear oddity

Why do you say clear Oddity? I was just thinking - if Ulti is scum then after Mzero's death the scum team probably considers Ulti such a throwaway member that they wouldn't mind feeding him to a bussing scum.

The only thing that helps is Oddity not claiming rb means if he were scum he took a big risk that someone else didnt catvh a bus driver target.

So actually, thinking on it further, I'm going to say Oddity is probably a safe bet as town.

But if Ulti and him are both scum then the track on ulti is perfectly safe to claim.
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so ben, do you think ulti is scum, then? If so, please vote him.
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benjamin3740 posted...

Also red can you answer VI's question. I ask because it was also something I asked you in my response to being called terrible

What was the question? Sorry I'm on mobile jts hard to track down.

If its referring to your earlier qiestion about sheep and... Oddity i believe it was? Mobile ate my post and i had to turn Javascript off and then got distracted. My response was that i would go after sheep yesterday if i had to choose because i had 0 interest in going after usually active b8ers

I'd feel better about voting Ulti right away if I felt better about you. It is either One of you or both of you as scum, and since you're clearly gunning for him with the track, I'd rather wait to see what he has to say. There will be plenty of time to vote
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Btw people ulti is dying today just relax a little on that front. Think more towards the future than today.

benjamin3740 posted...

I'd feel better about voting Ulti right away if I felt better about you. It is either One of you or both of you as scum, and since you're clearly gunning for him with the track, I'd rather wait to see what he has to say. There will be plenty of time to vote

Simplest answer is usually the right one, dude.

Leafeon13N posted...

benjamin3740 posted...

Also red can you answer VI's question. I ask because it was also something I asked you in my response to being called terrible

What was the question? Sorry I'm on mobile jts hard to track down.

If its referring to your earlier qiestion about sheep and... Oddity i believe it was? Mobile ate my post and i had to turn Javascript off and then got distracted. My response was that i would go after sheep yesterday if i had to choose because i had 0 interest in going after usually active b8ers

benjamin3740 posted...

Leafeon13N posted...

Ben you are either completely terrible or scum.

What why am i terrible? >_> I didnt read Mzero town at any point in the game. Which post did it for you? Because i dont remember you saying all this till now that he's dead. Like when he said he's been playing Miller exactly how he was always told and didnt understand why he was being killed when he played it perfectly. That doesnt come off as genuine to me

VeryInsane posted...

Like I just decided to do a brief Ctrl+F on red's posts Day 1 (A little annoying because of the two accounts but I worked on it anyway) and found literally nothing on MZero.

Like yeah he said Ulti was lying but nothing regarding MZero. Seems more like creating hindsight and trying to guilt us and take control.

Also Corrik claimed to be NeoFio no idea if that's actually correct

here's my post and then VI's. I thought maybe you were ignoring them
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The SK is dead and likely didn't kill himself.

The SK did not flip Janitor and thus didn't kill Corrik.

Process of elimination: SK killed Shadow.

Ulti being tracked to Shadow means what? If SK killed Shadow, Ulti didn't.
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If i spend 80% of this game having to knock down conspiracy theories i am going to go absolutely insane btw.

Leafeon13N posted...

benjamin3740 posted...

I'd feel better about voting Ulti right away if I felt better about you. It is either One of you or both of you as scum, and since you're clearly gunning for him with the track, I'd rather wait to see what he has to say. There will be plenty of time to vote

Simplest answer is usually the right one, dude.

Why is everyone trying to steer my hand this game. >.> Everyone
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SK actually could have killed himself btw. It'll be interesting to see how that played out later though.

Red's answer is that he stated Ulti was more likely to lie, which he did.

But there wasn't so much pursuit towards him, just PJ.
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Nanahara715 posted...

The SK is dead and likely didn't kill himself.

The SK did not flip Janitor and thus didn't kill Corrik.

Process of elimination: SK killed Shadow.

Ulti being tracked to Shadow means what? If SK killed Shadow, Ulti didn't.

Good point. Unless Shadow drove Ukti to herself? Or is that not how it works
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Leafeon13N posted...

SK actually could have killed himself btw. It'll be interesting to see how that played out later though.

Shadow would have had to Bus SK and the SK's target. There's literally a 1 in 105 chance of this.
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