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FrisbeeDude
05/12/17 12:46:36 PM
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Their Freedom

https://www.thenation.com/article/this-mothers-day-black-lives-matter-activists-will-give-more-than-30-women-their-freedom/

Hell yeah. I really love this
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Menardi
05/12/17 12:47:09 PM
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Darklit_Minuet
05/12/17 12:47:16 PM
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The best gift to black mothers would be to stop throwing their husbands and kids in jail for victimless crimes like drugs.
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ZCheveyo
05/12/17 1:00:40 PM
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I'm confused....they raised over a quarter of a million dollars and they are claiming they are giving "more than 30" women their freedom. Women who are awaiting their trial for "low level drug charges, loitering, etc."

With those charges and that much money you should be able to free a lot more than "more than 30". That '30' should be a much bigger number.
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FrisbeeDude
05/12/17 1:04:19 PM
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Darklit_Minuet posted...
The best gift to black mothers would be to stop throwing their husbands and kids in jail for victimless crimes like drugs.


True
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MARKINGRAM22
05/12/17 1:05:29 PM
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Darklit_Minuet posted...
The best gift to black mothers would be to stop throwing their husbands and kids in jail for victimless crimes like drugs.

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Vindris_SNH
05/12/17 1:06:40 PM
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What about white women with the same issues? This is literally racist.
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FrisbeeDude
05/12/17 1:07:24 PM
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Vindris_SNH posted...
What about white women with the same issues? This is literally racist.


Lmao
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The Admiral
05/12/17 1:08:15 PM
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Just to be clear, these are all women who were arrested for a crime, couldn't make bail, and just haven't had a trial. So many of them are likely criminals and will be convicted, and BLM is knowingly supporting them.

In other words, BLM doing its thing and supporting black criminals again.
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southcoast09
05/12/17 1:09:12 PM
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The Admiral posted...
Just to be clear, these are all women who were arrested for a crime, couldn't make bail, and just haven't had a trial. So many of them are likely criminals and will be convicted, and BLM is knowingly supporting them.

In other words, BLM doing its thing and supporting black criminals again.

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Vindris_SNH
05/12/17 1:09:13 PM
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the women who will be freed are in jail for low-level offenses such as loitering or small-scale drug possession


... Sounds like these moms being set free will be a great example for their children to follow.
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southcoast09
05/12/17 1:09:51 PM
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Darklit_Minuet posted...
The best gift to black mothers would be to stop throwing their husbands and kids in jail for victimless crimes like drugs.

You're saying different people should have different sets of laws?
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Romulox28
05/12/17 1:10:40 PM
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The Admiral posted...
Just to be clear, these are all women who were arrested for a crime, couldn't make bail, and just haven't had a trial. So many of them are likely criminals and will be convicted, and BLM is knowingly supporting them.

In other words, BLM doing its thing and supporting black criminals again.

did you read the article? it says "Many of the women who will be freed are in jail for low-level offenses such as loitering or small-scale drug possession."

southcoast09 posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
The best gift to black mothers would be to stop throwing their husbands and kids in jail for victimless crimes like drugs.

You're saying different people should have different sets of laws?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2013/06/04/the-blackwhite-marijuana-arrest-gap-in-nine-charts/?utm_term=.3fc6c6e33250
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NeoShadowhen
05/12/17 1:13:03 PM
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ZCheveyo posted...
I'm confused....they raised over a quarter of a million dollars and they are claiming they are giving "more than 30" women their freedom. Women who are awaiting their trial for "low level drug charges, loitering, etc."

With those charges and that much money you should be able to free a lot more than "more than 30". That '30' should be a much bigger number.


Y'know. Processing and handling etc.
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ThanksUglyGod
05/12/17 1:13:20 PM
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Romulox28 posted...
did you read the article? it says "Many of the women who will be freed are in jail for low-level offenses such as loitering or small-scale drug possession."

Haven't you heard? Loitering and small drug possession are crimes against humanity now.
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FrisbeeDude
05/12/17 1:14:34 PM
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The Admiral posted...
Just to be clear, these are all women who were arrested for a crime, couldn't make bail, and just haven't had a trial. So many of them are likely criminals and will be convicted, and BLM is knowingly supporting them.

In other words, BLM doing its thing and supporting black criminals again.


"Innocent until proven guilty, unless you're black"

No, they are supporting people who haven't been convicted of anything, but you're a racist, so of course black people helping out other black people by not having them languish in jail before their cases are heard (see: Khalif browner) bothers you

"Many of the are likely criminals" lmao
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southcoast09
05/12/17 1:15:35 PM
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A link about different people getting arrested doesn't prove anything. Guess what? If you're not in possession of anything illegal, you cannot be charged with a crime. Are you suggesting the cops plant evidence?

No. You buy something illegal and you know there's a chance you could get caught. Stop making excuses.
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ChromaticAngel
05/12/17 1:17:05 PM
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Vindris_SNH posted...
What about white women with the same issues? This is literally racist.


Is it also racist that 44% of women in jail are black even though they aren't even close to 44% of the population?
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Blue_Inigo
05/12/17 1:17:09 PM
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I see the usual suspects are once again forgetting innocent until proven guilty. Quite absentminded of them to do so.
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Antifar
05/12/17 1:17:48 PM
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southcoast09 posted...
Are you suggesting the cops plant evidence?

It would not be the first instance.
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The Admiral
05/12/17 1:18:47 PM
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FrisbeeDude posted...
The Admiral posted...
Just to be clear, these are all women who were arrested for a crime, couldn't make bail, and just haven't had a trial. So many of them are likely criminals and will be convicted, and BLM is knowingly supporting them.

In other words, BLM doing its thing and supporting black criminals again.


"Innocent until proven guilty, unless you're black"

No, they are supporting people who haven't been convicted of anything, but you're a racist, so of course black people helping out other black people by not having them languish in jail before their cases are heard (see: Khalif browner) bothers you

"Many of the are likely criminals" lmao


The most amazing thing to me is the mentality like this, which inexplicably views black criminals as the victims. I'll literally never be able to understand this worldview.

But more relevantly, BLM could choose to support any number of law-abiding black folks in need on Mother's Day, and the group they prioritize are the ones who've broken the law. The fact that you can't see why this group is despised is unbelievable.
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MakoReizei
05/12/17 1:20:33 PM
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ChromaticAngel posted...
Vindris_SNH posted...
What about white women with the same issues? This is literally racist.


Is it also racist that 44% of women in jail are black even though they aren't even close to 44% of the population?

Why is that?
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Darklit_Minuet
05/12/17 1:20:59 PM
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southcoast09 posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
The best gift to black mothers would be to stop throwing their husbands and kids in jail for victimless crimes like drugs.

You're saying different people should have different sets of laws?

No, I think that white people shouldn't be thrown in jail over victimless crimes like drugs either
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FrisbeeDude
05/12/17 1:21:31 PM
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JACKBUTTMOMMY posted...
FrisbeeDude posted...
The Admiral posted...
Just to be clear, these are all women who were arrested for a crime, couldn't make bail, and just haven't had a trial. So many of them are likely criminals and will be convicted, and BLM is knowingly supporting them.

In other words, BLM doing its thing and supporting black criminals again.


"Innocent until proven guilty, unless you're black"

No, they are supporting people who haven't been convicted of anything, but you're a racist, so of course black people helping out other black people by not having them languish in jail before their cases are heard (see: Khalif browner) bothers you

"Many of the are likely criminals" lmao


A better thing to do would be get involved in community organizations, bring business and better education into the neighborhoods, and mindfulness teaming as well as police situation training. But that would be too "hard".


Pro tip: these efforts are literally happening across the country, but white America gets its info on black people from Fox News, so it's not surprising they remain ignorant to these efforts
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Romulox28
05/12/17 1:23:30 PM
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MakoReizei posted...
ChromaticAngel posted...
Vindris_SNH posted...
What about white women with the same issues? This is literally racist.


Is it also racist that 44% of women in jail are black even though they aren't even close to 44% of the population?

Why is that?

because they are disproportionately arrested for minor crimes like marijuana possession, even though usage statistics are the same for both races, and our system is designed in a way to encourage recidivism?
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FrisbeeDude
05/12/17 1:25:54 PM
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The most amazing thing to me is the mentality like this, which inexplicably views black criminals as the victims. I'll literally never be able to understand this worldview.

This is like the poster opinion for a white person who has little to no interaction with black people. "Why do black people not assume every black person who's arrested and held on bail is automatically a criminal?"

But more relevantly, BLM could choose to support any number of law-abiding black folks in need on Mother's Day, and the group they prioritize are the ones who've broken the law. The fact that you can't see why this group is despised is unbelievable.

Who despises blm exactly?
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MakoReizei
05/12/17 1:27:08 PM
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what is this "white America" nonsense. assuming only white people can be reasonable?
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Darklit_Minuet
05/12/17 1:27:25 PM
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Romulox28 posted...
MakoReizei posted...
ChromaticAngel posted...
Vindris_SNH posted...
What about white women with the same issues? This is literally racist.


Is it also racist that 44% of women in jail are black even though they aren't even close to 44% of the population?

Why is that?

because they are disproportionately arrested for minor crimes like marijuana possession, even though usage statistics are the same for both races, and our system is designed in a way to encourage recidivism?

Pretty much. As a white guy living in a white community, I've literally never seen the cops on my street a single time. People smoking weed here never get arrested, because there are no cops around to arrest them. While in black neighbourhoods there's a lot more cop cars fishing for arrests to make - the same "crime", walking around smoking weed, gets them caught and punished there because there are cops around. Thus, cops get to say that more crimes happen in black neighbourhoods, which justifies them patrolling them more, which gets more black people arrested for the same shit that people do on my street all the time. It's a self-perpetuating cycle.
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Darklit_Minuet
05/12/17 1:27:55 PM
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FrisbeeDude posted...
Who despises blm exactly?

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southcoast09
05/12/17 1:28:44 PM
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Antifar posted...
southcoast09 posted...
Are you suggesting the cops plant evidence?

It would not be the first instance.

thats fine, just keep pointing the finger
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acidic_eggs
05/12/17 1:29:09 PM
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Blue_Inigo posted...
I see the usual suspects are once again forgetting innocent until proven guilty. Quite absentminded of them to do so.

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cjsdowg
05/12/17 1:29:34 PM
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The Admiral posted...
Just to be clear, these are all women who were arrested for a crime, couldn't make bail, and just haven't had a trial. So many of them are likely criminals and will be convicted, and BLM is knowingly supporting them.

In other words, BLM doing its thing and supporting black criminals again.


Innocent until prove guilty. Isn't that the shit you always talk about when a cop guns down a unarmed black child.
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FrisbeeDude
05/12/17 1:45:02 PM
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I work at one of those organizations. In five years, only 1 volunteer has worn a BLM shirt.

Ok...and?
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Medz8606
05/12/17 1:46:47 PM
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Stop breaking the law asshole!!
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Nomadic View
05/12/17 1:51:57 PM
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The Admiral posted...
Just to be clear, these are all women who were arrested for a crime, couldn't make bail, and just haven't had a trial. So many of them are likely criminals and will be convicted, and BLM is knowingly supporting them.

In other words, BLM doing its thing and supporting black criminals again.


Even though that's technically correct. These women are entitled to bail before going to trial. Raising money for that isn't horrible imo. It's money donated freely to people that are entitled to that right, but just can't afford it. It's a private organization and it's not tax payer funded.

This is one of the few things BLM is doing that is actually beneficial to low income people.
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Roxborough4Ever
05/12/17 1:52:06 PM
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Vindris_SNH posted...
What about white women with the same issues? This is literally racist.


they have priv so....they dont matter
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Vindris_SNH
05/12/17 1:53:34 PM
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ChromaticAngel posted...
Vindris_SNH posted...
What about white women with the same issues? This is literally racist.


Is it also racist that 44% of women in jail are black even though they aren't even close to 44% of the population?


Whose fault is it that, based on factual statistics, black people commit more crime?
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ChromaticAngel
05/12/17 1:54:28 PM
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Vindris_SNH posted...
ChromaticAngel posted...
Vindris_SNH posted...
What about white women with the same issues? This is literally racist.


Is it also racist that 44% of women in jail are black even though they aren't even close to 44% of the population?


Whose fault is it that, based on factual statistics, black people commit more crime?


I don't care whose fault it is.

Is it racist or not?
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Romulox28
05/12/17 1:56:46 PM
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Vindris_SNH posted...
ChromaticAngel posted...
Vindris_SNH posted...
What about white women with the same issues? This is literally racist.


Is it also racist that 44% of women in jail are black even though they aren't even close to 44% of the population?


Whose fault is it that, based on factual statistics, black people commit more crime?

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acidic_eggs
05/12/17 1:57:02 PM
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Vindris_SNH posted...
ChromaticAngel posted...
Vindris_SNH posted...
What about white women with the same issues? This is literally racist.


Is it also racist that 44% of women in jail are black even though they aren't even close to 44% of the population?


Whose fault is it that, based on factual statistics, black people commit more crime?

*black people are arrested more
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Vindris_SNH
05/12/17 1:59:17 PM
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I have no sympathy for people who know the law, and decide to break it. I don't agree with every law, but I still abide by them. I don't care if you're black, white, hispanic, or whatever; if you break the law, you deserve to be punished accordingly.

Now, with all trolling aside, I'll tell you my honest opinion on this matter...

I would think it likely that most of these women will be proven guilty of the crimes they allegedly committed. But the fact is, they are currently innocent. If they can post bail, or if someone can post it for them, they are, by law, free to go. And isn't it a good thing that at least these few women will be able to spend Mother's Day with their children?

In time, our legal system will do its job, and I trust these women will be properly punished if they are found guilty. But they're mothers. They have children. Letting them have this time before their trial to be with their families is fine by me.

OK now I have to go back into troll mode because that's way more fun than being serious.
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devilminion
05/12/17 2:01:56 PM
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FrisbeeDude posted...
I work at one of those organizations. In five years, only 1 volunteer has worn a BLM shirt.

Ok...and?


I think his point is that BLM has little, if not nothing to do with this. The article even says that it was SONG that organized it, but somehow BLM is getting all the headline credit.
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Roxborough4Ever
05/12/17 2:25:29 PM
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ChromaticAngel posted...
Vindris_SNH posted...
ChromaticAngel posted...
Vindris_SNH posted...
What about white women with the same issues? This is literally racist.


Is it also racist that 44% of women in jail are black even though they aren't even close to 44% of the population?


Whose fault is it that, based on factual statistics, black people commit more crime?


I don't care whose fault it is.

Is it racist or not?


no, its not racist, its reality
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FrisbeeDude
05/12/17 2:28:17 PM
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Nomadic View posted...
The Admiral posted...
Just to be clear, these are all women who were arrested for a crime, couldn't make bail, and just haven't had a trial. So many of them are likely criminals and will be convicted, and BLM is knowingly supporting them.

In other words, BLM doing its thing and supporting black criminals again.


Even though that's technically correct. These women are entitled to bail before going to trial. Raising money for that isn't horrible imo. It's money donated freely to people that are entitled to that right, but just can't afford it. It's a private organization and it's not tax payer funded.

This is one of the few things BLM is doing that is actually beneficial to low income people.

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Questionmarktarius
05/12/17 2:33:12 PM
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NeoShadowhen posted...
ZCheveyo posted...
I'm confused....they raised over a quarter of a million dollars and they are claiming they are giving "more than 30" women their freedom. Women who are awaiting their trial for "low level drug charges, loitering, etc."

With those charges and that much money you should be able to free a lot more than "more than 30". That '30' should be a much bigger number.


Y'know. Processing and handling etc.

$250000 divided by 30 is $8333.33, which is a plausible bail amount for "low level drug charges, loitering, etc."
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ChromaticAngel
05/12/17 3:22:43 PM
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Roxborough4Ever posted...
ChromaticAngel posted...
Vindris_SNH posted...
ChromaticAngel posted...
Vindris_SNH posted...
What about white women with the same issues? This is literally racist.


Is it also racist that 44% of women in jail are black even though they aren't even close to 44% of the population?


Whose fault is it that, based on factual statistics, black people commit more crime?


I don't care whose fault it is.

Is it racist or not?


no, its not racist, its reality


K. BLM helping black mothers with bail is not racist, it's reality.
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Medz8606
05/12/17 3:43:55 PM
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More men are in prison than women so the justice system is sexist
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Roxborough4Ever
05/12/17 3:48:51 PM
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ChromaticAngel posted...
Roxborough4Ever posted...
ChromaticAngel posted...
Vindris_SNH posted...
ChromaticAngel posted...
Vindris_SNH posted...
What about white women with the same issues? This is literally racist.


Is it also racist that 44% of women in jail are black even though they aren't even close to 44% of the population?


Whose fault is it that, based on factual statistics, black people commit more crime?


I don't care whose fault it is.

Is it racist or not?


no, its not racist, its reality


K. BLM helping black mothers with bail is not racist, it's reality.


thats fine, so don't call it racist when you have to face the consequences of your actions
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