Current Events > So, Comey does intend to testify, just insists on it being public

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http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/fbi/333241-comey-willing-to-testify-but-only-in-public-report

Kind of a blow to the Trumpanzee narrative that whatever dirt Trump had on Comey was holding him back.

What this signifies in my opinion is that he wants whatever he says to be public record rather than able to be filed away in a secret file. He wants his testimony to be undiluted and straight from him to the public rather than hearsay or covered up.

Can someone give me a short non-biased summary of this Trump-Comey situation? Facts only please.
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brandunh11 posted...

Can someone give me a short non-biased summary of this Trump-Comey situation? Facts only please.

Trump fired Comey.

Everything else is rampant speculation.
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Frostshock posted...

brandunh11 posted...

Can someone give me a short non-biased summary of this Trump-Comey situation? Facts only please.

Trump fired Comey.

Everything else is rampant speculation.

Trump also threatened Comey via Twitter. And now Comey wants a public testimony. That's not speculation.

Ampelas posted...

Frostshock posted...

brandunh11 posted...

Can someone give me a short non-biased summary of this Trump-Comey situation? Facts only please.

Trump fired Comey.

Everything else is rampant speculation.

Trump also threatened Comey via Twitter. And now Comey wants a public testimony. That's not speculation.

It also means literally nothing and the connection you are making is speculation.
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Ampelas posted...

Frostshock posted...

brandunh11 posted...

Can someone give me a short non-biased summary of this Trump-Comey situation? Facts only please.

Trump fired Comey.

Everything else is rampant speculation.

Trump also threatened Comey via Twitter. And now Comey wants a public testimony. That's not speculation.

What reason did Trump give for the firing?
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Is TC new to politics to not realize that there are 7 democrats on the Intelligence committee, and whatever Comey has to say can be shared amongst democrats privately, or is he just...

HiddenRoar posted...

Is TC new to politics to not realize that there are 7 democrats on the Intelligence committee, and whatever Comey has to say can be shared amongst democrats privately, or is he just...

It's Ampelas. Not the sharpest crayon.
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brandunh11 posted...

Ampelas posted...

Frostshock posted...

brandunh11 posted...

Can someone give me a short non-biased summary of this Trump-Comey situation? Facts only please.

Trump fired Comey.

Everything else is rampant speculation.

Trump also threatened Comey via Twitter. And now Comey wants a public testimony. That's not speculation.

What reason did Trump give for the firing?

He flip flopped all over the place on that one.

Incompetence
Advice of administration
Didn't like the guy
His own decision
Hillary

I don't actually know what his current position is.
Gojak_v3 posted...

It also means literally nothing and the connection you are making is speculation.

How can you say a threat like that means nothing? Trump was trying to get him to not talk, how obvious does it have to be?

Gojak_v3 posted...

HiddenRoar posted...

Is TC new to politics to not realize that there are 7 democrats on the Intelligence committee, and whatever Comey has to say can be shared amongst democrats privately, or is he just...

It's Ampelas. Not the sharpest crayon.

Username to post ratio
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Ampelas posted...

Incompetence
Advice of administration
Didn't like the guy
His own decision
Hillary

Also that he's a showboat and a grandstander.
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Lol at Gojak (my admitted stalker, says he'll follow me around to point out my "incompetence") calling anyone unintelligent. Guy makes topics about shit (literal use of the word) and gets REKT in most arguments he engages in.

Ampelas posted...

Lol at Gojak (my admitted stalker, says he'll follow me around to point out my "incompetence") calling anyone unintelligent. Guy makes topics about shit (literal use of the word) and gets REKT in most arguments he engages in.

Literally oblivious to the fact that the committee isn't entirely made up of Republicans. Or are you now claiming there are 7 Senate Democrats who are pro-Trump administration.

An actual rebuttal please, and not a scapegoat to try and hide your incompetence/ignorance.

Gojak_v3 posted...

HiddenRoar posted...

Is TC new to politics to not realize that there are 7 democrats on the Intelligence committee, and whatever Comey has to say can be shared amongst democrats privately, or is he just...

It's Ampelas. Not the sharpest crayon.

It's actually just Bio.
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HiddenRoar posted...

Ampelas posted...

Lol at Gojak (my admitted stalker, says he'll follow me around to point out my "incompetence") calling anyone unintelligent. Guy makes topics about shit (literal use of the word) and gets REKT in most arguments he engages in.

Literally oblivious to the fact that the committee isn't entirely made up of Republicans. Or are you now claiming there are 7 Senate Democrats who are pro-Trump administration.

An actual rebuttal please, and not a scapegoat to try and hide your incompetence/ignorance.

What does that have to do with anything though? Comey near single-handedly cost a Democrat the election, so what do you think the committee being comprised of Democrats is supposed to mean?

HiddenRoar posted...

Ampelas posted...

Lol at Gojak (my admitted stalker, says he'll follow me around to point out my "incompetence") calling anyone unintelligent. Guy makes topics about shit (literal use of the word) and gets REKT in most arguments he engages in.

Literally oblivious to the fact that the committee isn't entirely made up of Republicans. Or are you now claiming there are 7 Senate Democrats who are pro-Trump administration.

An actual rebuttal please, and not a scapegoat to try and hide your incompetence/ignorance.

You stated my exact meaning... Think about it. The committee is two sided, so with a private hearing, you get two stories. One side the Trumpanzees believe, one side the leftists believe and normal people don't know which to believe. A public hearing removes the option for a biased retelling, as it would be public record. I think you misunderstood me.

Put him on TV.
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Gids_goft posted...

What does that have to do with anything though? Comey near single-handedly cost a Democrat the election, so what do you think the committee being comprised of Democrats is supposed to mean?

Holy fuck short term memory.
You mean the same party that's calling for a special prosecutor into the Russian probe right now? Do you want me to spell out why the party who has a stake in the possible collusion between Trump and Russia would want to hear what the guy who was charge of said investigation has to say?
Please don't add your two cents in the matter if they're this fucking useless.

Ampelas posted...

You stated my exact meaning... Think about it. The committee is two sided, so with a private hearing, you get two stories. One side the Trumpanzees believe, one side the leftists believe and normal people don't know which to believe. A public hearing removes the option for a biased retelling, as it would be public record. I think you misunderstood me.

Wow, just a few minutes ago you claimed the committee was nuthugging the Trump administration in the topic you made in politics. Now you're claiming the members are polar opposites that would confuse the public unless the media gets involved?

Does media not lean left/right? Just earlier this week the left-wing media managed to convince liberals that the AHCA didn't involve women or minorities.

HiddenRoar posted...

Wow, just a few minutes ago you claimed the committee was nuthugging the Trump administration in the topic you made in politics. Now you're claiming the members are polar opposites that would confuse the public unless the media gets involved?

Does media not lean left/right? Just earlier this week the left-wing media managed to convince liberals that the AHCA didn't involve women or minorities.

My exact words were "solidly on the side of", a far cry from a bunch of Trump nuthuggers, but you knew that, you're just trying to discredit me because you misread.

On the off chance that you were serious, the committee IS solidly on his side. The majority support him.

And sure, the media leans, but it's not really possible to edit live footage to suit one bias or another. That's my whole point. He wants to make everything available publicly, without dilution of media. Trump supporters should be happy, if they truly think there's nothing to hide.

Gids_goft posted...

What does that have to do with anything though? Comey near single-handedly cost a Democrat the election, so what do you think the committee being comprised of Democrats is supposed to mean?

Comey didn't. The democrat and her party did.
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whitelytning posted...

Gids_goft posted...

What does that have to do with anything though? Comey near single-handedly cost a Democrat the election, so what do you think the committee being comprised of Democrats is supposed to mean?

Comey didn't. The democrat and her party did.

This. Hillary dug her own damn grave, and the DNC supplied the shovels. Comey was just a focus point for anger

brandunh11 posted...

Can someone give me a short non-biased summary of this Trump-Comey situation? Facts only please.

Short version? Comey was in charge of the investigation of any connection between Trump's campaign and Russian operatives.

Comey asked for more funds for the investigation. A few days later Comey was fired by Trump.

Trump makes a tweet cryptic tweet shortly afterwards: "James Comey better hope that there are no ‘tapes’ of our conversations before he starts leaking to the press!"

Comey now seemingly calls his bluff showing willingness to testify in public.
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Ampelas posted...

brandunh11 posted...

Ampelas posted...

Frostshock posted...

brandunh11 posted...

Can someone give me a short non-biased summary of this Trump-Comey situation? Facts only please.

Trump fired Comey.

Everything else is rampant speculation.

Trump also threatened Comey via Twitter. And now Comey wants a public testimony. That's not speculation.

What reason did Trump give for the firing?

He flip flopped all over the place on that one.

Incompetence
Advice of administration
Didn't like the guy
His own decision
Hillary

I don't actually know what his current position is.
Gojak_v3 posted...

It also means literally nothing and the connection you are making is speculation.

How can you say a threat like that means nothing? Trump was trying to get him to not talk, how obvious does it have to be?

False. The tweet was specifically about leaks to the press.

Ampelas posted...

brandunh11 posted...
Ampelas posted...
Frostshock posted...
brandunh11 posted...
Can someone give me a short non-biased summary of this Trump-Comey situation? Facts only please.


Trump fired Comey.

Everything else is rampant speculation.


Trump also threatened Comey via Twitter. And now Comey wants a public testimony. That's not speculation.


What reason did Trump give for the firing?

He flip flopped all over the place on that one.

Incompetence
Advice of administration
Didn't like the guy
His own decision
Hillary

I don't actually know what his current position is.
Gojak_v3 posted...

Actually he was pretty clear: He fired Comey to stop the Russia investigation.

His surrogates had a different excuse on Tuesday, but during that interview on Thursday he was pretty clear about it himself.

He then tweeted that we should stop expecting the White House correspondent or any of his surrogates to be accurate anymore and should just take the news from the horse's mouth so to speak.
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The Deadpool posted...

Comey asked for more funds for the investigation. A few days later Comey was fired by Trump.

You left out the part where, the day before Comey was fired, it was discovered that he had given false information in his testimony regarding the investigation of Huma Abedin a few days earlier.

You also left out how Session's letter to Trump that suggested firing Comey referenced Comey's handling of investigations and "faithfully following the rules."

I don't know if you were uninformed, misinformed, or just blatantly pushing conspiracy theories, but you're spreading false information.

Vertania posted...

I don't know if you were uninformed, misinformed, or just blatantly pushing conspiracy theories, but you're spreading false information.

I left out a lot of irrelevant information since this a long and complicated story.

Trump already clearly stated the White House press story that Comey was fired at the recommendation of the Deputy Attornye General (Rod Rosenstein) was incorrect: He had already made the decision himself, and it was because he was investigating the Trump/Russia connection.
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The Deadpool posted...

He had already made the ? z zen zv zen zvx z. z. z. z z. Z. Z Z. , he made the decision himself, and it was because he was investigating the Trump/Russia connection.

Did you undergo a system reboot in the middle of that sentence?
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The Deadpool posted...

he made the decision himself, and it was because he was investigating the Trump/Russia connection.

Then why would he attach the recommending letters and write "I have accepted their recommendation" in his letter of termination to Comey?

Vertania posted...

The Deadpool posted...

he made the decision himself, and it was because he was investigating the Trump/Russia connection.

Then why would he attach the recommending letters and write "I have accepted their recommendation" in his letter of termination to Comey?

Ask Trump, he said the decision was solely his own during the Lester Holt interview.

https://twitter.com/NBCNightlyNews/status/862713274676072448
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Ampelas posted...

My exact words were "solidly on the side of", a far cry from a bunch of Trump nuthuggers, but you knew that, you're just trying to discredit me because you misread.

On the off chance that you were serious, the committee IS solidly on his side. The majority support him.

For one, 8 to 7, so much for 'solidly'.
Two, this isn't a trial; the Intelligence Committee's purpose for Comey's hearing is to see if he has anything to add to the Russian probe. Republicans having one member more than democrats does not restrict the latter's ability to field questions in regards to the topic in any meaningful way.


Ampelas posted...

And sure, the media leans, but it's not really possible to edit live footage to suit one bias or another. That's my whole point. He wants to make everything available publicly, without dilution of media. Trump supporters should be happy, if they truly think there's nothing to hide.

Like CNN's live coverage of the DNC? Loved how they cut out the boos by Bernie supporters and instead tried to paint unity between the two behind Hillary.

Vertania posted...

The Deadpool posted...

he made the decision himself, and it was because he was investigating the Trump/Russia connection.

Then why would he attach the recommending letters and write "I have accepted their recommendation" in his letter of termination to Comey?

Unknown.

Dude asked for what we know without opinions, I'm giving him what we know from official sources.

I mean Trump himself said he wanted to Fire the guy before the recommendation because of the Russia investigation.
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UrCa1988 posted...

Ask Trump, he said the decision was solely his own during the Lester Holt interview.

Ultimately, yeah, the decision was his own. He didn't have to follow the recommendations, but he still decided to.

The Deadpool posted...

Dude asked for what we know without opinions, I'm giving him what we know from official sources.

And the termination letter isn't an official source?

Vertania posted...

And the termination letter isn't an official source?

Right but the President himself supersedes that.

He said had already decided to fire Comey on his own because of the Russia investigation before any recommendation happened.
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The Deadpool posted...

Vertania posted...

And the termination letter isn't an official source?

Right but the President himself supersedes that.

He said had already decided to fire Comey on his own because of the Russia investigation before any recommendation happened.

trump should've made that clear before we get a laundry list of reasons why he was fired. He can't be consistent about anything

I still find it weird that so many Americans think this is normal.

They look at Trump, the things he says, the things he does, the people he fires, the policies his promotes.

And millions perhaps over 100 million people just go "Yeah so what?" as if this is normal behavior.

It's so.... weird
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The Deadpool posted...

He said had already decided to fire Comey on his own because of the Russia investigation before any recommendation happened.

Where does he say it was because of the investigation though? In the clip UrCa posted, he says that he was already going to fire him, but not that it was because of that.

The Deadpool posted...

Right but the President himself supersedes that.

Are you trying to be wrong? What you put in writing supercedes moronic blabbering. This has always been the case.
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