Current Events > Is healthcare a privilege or a right ? Also should healthcare be sold for profit

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anth0ny 05/15/17 5:50:13 AM #51:	If only there were some sort of group that represented us... --- moo <cite>anth0ny posted [p:879128062] in Is healthc... [t:75347172]...</cite> <quote>If only there were some sort of group that represented us...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
anth0ny 05/15/17 5:51:29 AM #52:	if only... --- moo <cite>anth0ny posted [p:879128083] in Is healthc... [t:75347172]...</cite> <quote>if only...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
anth0ny 05/15/17 5:52:08 AM #53:	https://ourrevolution.com/groups/ --- moo <cite>anth0ny posted [p:879128099] in Is healthc... [t:75347172]...</cite> <quote>https://ourrevolution.com/groups/</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
anth0ny 05/15/17 5:52:37 AM #54:	https://go.ourrevolution.com/page/s/membership-signup?source=main-nav-join --- moo <cite>anth0ny posted [p:879128111] in Is healthc... [t:75347172]...</cite> <quote>https://go.ourrevolution.com/page/s/membership-signup?source=main-nav-join</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kineth 05/15/17 5:53:29 AM #55:	As defined by the social contract, it could be argued as a right. I think it's neither. It's simply in the best interest of the country to provide proper medical care to its citizens because a healthy populace is better than the alternative. Shouldn't be for profit, but doctors, nurses and so forth should be paid well for the important skills they have. --- I call them boob implants because saying I'm getting a boobilicious chest full of science isn't likely to catch your attention. -gunplagirl <cite>Kineth posted [p:879128124] in Is healthc... [t:75347172]...</cite> <quote>As defined by the social contract, it could be argued as a right. I think it's neither. It's simply in the best interest of the country to provide proper medical care to its citizens because a healthy populace is better than the alternative. Shouldn't be for profit, but doctors, nurses and so forth should be paid well for the important skills they have.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
g7g7g7g7 05/15/17 5:54:04 AM #56:	Basic human right, no. Nice thing to have in a civilised modern society, yes. America has some forms of socialised medicine already, there are systems of "socialism laundering" all over the U.S. healthcare system with the state paying massive chunks of the bill through taxation at the back door out of sight. It's ludicrously expensive mind you with the American state paying more for healthcare per capita than the UK does on the NHS, with citizens paying out the same amount again on top of that for private provision. You already spend more on healthcare at a state level than most developed countries do to get universal coverage, you should already have universal healthcare, you fucking pay enough for it. --- Feel free to add me on Steam - S.T.I.N.K.E.R. <cite>g7g7g7g7 posted [p:879128139] in Is healthc... [t:75347172]...</cite> <quote>Basic human right, no. Nice thing to have in a civilised modern society, yes. America has some forms of socialised medicine already, there are systems of "socialism laundering" all over the U.S. healthcare system with the state paying massive chunks of the bill through taxation at the back door out of sight. It's ludicrously expensive mind you with the American state paying more for healthcare per capita than the UK does on the NHS, with citizens paying out the same amount again on top of that for private provision. You already spend more on healthcare at a state level than most developed countries do to get universal coverage, you should already have universal healthcare, you fucking pay enough for it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scar the 1 05/15/17 5:54:48 AM #57:	QuantumScript posted... you arent entitled to someone else's labor, that'd be slavery. Wow. This is some grade A shitposting. --- Everything has an end, except for the sausage. It has two. <cite>scar the 1 posted [p:879128147] in Is healthc... [t:75347172]...</cite> <quote><cite>QuantumScript posted...</cite> <quote>you arent entitled to someone else's labor, that'd be slavery.</quote> Wow. This is some grade A shitposting.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
anth0ny 05/15/17 5:55:22 AM #58:	Are shitters seriously going to bury my posts with your shit --- moo <cite>anth0ny posted [p:879128157] in Is healthc... [t:75347172]...</cite> <quote>Are shitters seriously going to bury my posts with your shit</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
shevman 05/15/17 6:03:53 AM #59:	g7g7g7g7 posted... Basic human right, no. Nice thing to have in a civilised modern society, yes. America has some forms of socialised medicine already, there are systems of "socialism laundering" all over the U.S. healthcare system with the state paying massive chunks of the bill through taxation at the back door out of sight. It's ludicrously expensive mind you with the American state paying more for healthcare per capita than the UK does on the NHS, with citizens paying out the same amount again on top of that for private provision. You already spend more on healthcare at a state level than most developed countries do to get universal coverage, you should already have universal healthcare, you fucking pay enough for it. American healthcare spending is three times that of other developed nations BECAUSE it is a privatised system. Universal healthcare systems are more cost effective because there are limited resources and pressure to get the most bang for your buck. Private healthcare institutions bleed Americans for everything they have because payment is guaranteed by Private Insurance. Its an expensive and cost-inefficient system, with no tangible population health benefit. <cite>shevman posted [p:879128304] in Is healthc... [t:75347172]...</cite> <quote><cite>g7g7g7g7 posted...</cite> <quote>Basic human right, no. Nice thing to have in a civilised modern society, yes. America has some forms of socialised medicine already, there are systems of "socialism laundering" all over the U.S. healthcare system with the state paying massive chunks of the bill through taxation at the back door out of sight. It's ludicrously expensive mind you with the American state paying more for healthcare per capita than the UK does on the NHS, with citizens paying out the same amount again on top of that for private provision. You already spend more on healthcare at a state level than most developed countries do to get universal coverage, you should already have universal healthcare, you fucking pay enough for it.</quote> American healthcare spending is three times that of other developed nations BECAUSE it is a privatised system. Universal healthcare systems are more cost effective because there are limited resources and pressure to get the most bang for your buck. Private healthcare institutions bleed Americans for everything they have because payment is guaranteed by Private Insurance. Its an expensive and cost-inefficient system, with no tangible population health benefit.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 05/15/17 6:22:46 AM #60:	it's a basic human right. anyone here arguing otherwise is on the wrong side of history --- http://www.imgur.com/oQHLBrx.jpg http://www.imgur.com/ah5IE8D.jpg http://www.imgur.com/USV84z9.jpg http://www.imgur.com/PSjlohO.jpg <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:879128650] in Is healthc... [t:75347172]...</cite> <quote>it's a basic human right. anyone here arguing otherwise is on the wrong side of history</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lorenzo_2003 05/15/17 7:14:11 AM #61:	Rika_Furude posted... it's a basic human right. anyone here arguing otherwise is on the wrong side of history There is no such thing as the wrong side of history. That's just some feel-good nonsense that people tell themselves when they're pushing an agenda. Human behavior changes culture and culture changes human behavior. All the things you support today have the potential to be completely dismissed in the future. --- ... <cite>Lorenzo_2003 posted [p:879129699] in Is healthc... [t:75347172]...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote>it's a basic human right. anyone here arguing otherwise is on the wrong side of history</quote> There is no such thing as the wrong side of history. That's just some feel-good nonsense that people tell themselves when they're pushing an agenda. Human behavior changes culture and culture changes human behavior. All the things you support today have the potential to be completely dismissed in the future.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KnicksRGarbage 05/15/17 7:18:41 AM #62:	Healthcare is not a fucking privilege....also yes it should be sold for profit --- #whitelivesmatter <cite>KnicksRGarbage posted [p:879129786] in Is healthc... [t:75347172]...</cite> <quote>Healthcare is not a fucking privilege....also yes it should be sold for profit</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KnicksRGarbage 05/15/17 7:19:29 AM #63:	Rika_Furude posted... it's a basic human right. anyone here arguing otherwise is on the wrong side of history @Rika_Furude okay lets say its a right...what does that change? --- #whitelivesmatter <cite>KnicksRGarbage posted [p:879129799] in Is healthc... [t:75347172]...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote>it's a basic human right. anyone here arguing otherwise is on the wrong side of history</quote> @Rika_Furude okay lets say its a right...what does that change?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gamepimp12 05/15/17 7:24:07 AM #64:	Lorenzo_2003 posted... Rika_Furude posted... it's a basic human right. anyone here arguing otherwise is on the wrong side of history There is no such thing as the wrong side of history. That's just some feel-good nonsense that people tell themselves when they're pushing an agenda. Human behavior changes culture and culture changes human behavior. All the things you support today have the potential to be completely dismissed in the future. No there def is a right side of history especially since history is fairly perspective heavy Now there isn't a way to know what is the right side. --- we rich now but used to be slaves,we pushing whips now we used to be whipped,rockin chains when we used to be in 'em <cite>gamepimp12 posted [p:879129881] in Is healthc... [t:75347172]...</cite> <quote><cite>Lorenzo_2003 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote>it's a basic human right. anyone here arguing otherwise is on the wrong side of history</quote> There is no such thing as the wrong side of history. That's just some feel-good nonsense that people tell themselves when they're pushing an agenda. Human behavior changes culture and culture changes human behavior. All the things you support today have the potential to be completely dismissed in the future.</quote> No there def is a right side of history especially since history is fairly perspective heavy Now there isn't a way to know what is the right side.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scar the 1 05/15/17 7:28:23 AM #65:	Lorenzo_2003 posted... All the things you support today have the potential to be completely dismissed in the future. Absolutely, and if we move into a future where healthcare isn't a human right, and people die on account of not having enough money, then we're moving into the wrong future. --- Everything has an end, except for the sausage. It has two. <cite>scar the 1 posted [p:879129964] in Is healthc... [t:75347172]...</cite> <quote><cite>Lorenzo_2003 posted...</cite> <quote>All the things you support today have the potential to be completely dismissed in the future.</quote> Absolutely, and if we move into a future where healthcare isn't a human right, and people die on account of not having enough money, then we're moving into the wrong future.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KnicksRGarbage 05/15/17 7:29:30 AM #66:	scar the 1 posted... Lorenzo_2003 posted... All the things you support today have the potential to be completely dismissed in the future. Absolutely, and if we move into a future where healthcare isn't a human right, and people die on account of not having enough money, then we're moving into the wrong future. Why do kids keep saying that....no matter your bank account you will be treated. Holy crap people need to stop using emotions as an argument --- #whitelivesmatter <cite>KnicksRGarbage posted [p:879129992] in Is healthc... [t:75347172]...</cite> <quote><cite>scar the 1 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Lorenzo_2003 posted...</cite> <quote>All the things you support today have the potential to be completely dismissed in the future.</quote> Absolutely, and if we move into a future where healthcare isn't a human right, and people die on account of not having enough money, then we're moving into the wrong future.</quote> Why do kids keep saying that....no matter your bank account you will be treated. Holy crap people need to stop using emotions as an argument</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 05/15/17 7:33:00 AM #67:	KnicksRGarbage posted... Rika_Furude posted... it's a basic human right. anyone here arguing otherwise is on the wrong side of history @Rika_Furude okay lets say its a right...what does that change? The fact that america is lacking a basic human right --- http://www.imgur.com/oQHLBrx.jpg http://www.imgur.com/ah5IE8D.jpg http://www.imgur.com/USV84z9.jpg http://www.imgur.com/PSjlohO.jpg <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:879130079] in Is healthc... [t:75347172]...</cite> <quote><cite>KnicksRGarbage posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote>it's a basic human right. anyone here arguing otherwise is on the wrong side of history</quote> @Rika_Furude okay lets say its a right...what does that change?</quote> The fact that america is lacking a basic human right</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scar the 1 05/15/17 7:33:35 AM #68:	KnicksRGarbage posted... Why do kids keep saying that....no matter your bank account you will be treated. Holy crap people need to stop using emotions as an argument I'm turning 29. Why would you call me a kid? And yeah, I will be treated, because I live in a country where healthcare isn't gated by income. --- Everything has an end, except for the sausage. It has two. <cite>scar the 1 posted [p:879130090] in Is healthc... [t:75347172]...</cite> <quote><cite>KnicksRGarbage posted...</cite> <quote>Why do kids keep saying that....no matter your bank account you will be treated. Holy crap people need to stop using emotions as an argument</quote> I'm turning 29. Why would you call me a kid? And yeah, I will be treated, because I live in a country where healthcare isn't gated by income.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KnicksRGarbage 05/15/17 7:34:40 AM #69:	Rika_Furude posted... KnicksRGarbage posted... Rika_Furude posted... it's a basic human right. anyone here arguing otherwise is on the wrong side of history @Rika_Furude okay lets say its a right...what does that change? The fact that america is lacking a basic human right Okay...so youre entitled to another persons money because you think its a right? --- #whitelivesmatter <cite>KnicksRGarbage posted [p:879130118] in Is healthc... [t:75347172]...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KnicksRGarbage posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote>it's a basic human right. anyone here arguing otherwise is on the wrong side of history</quote> @Rika_Furude okay lets say its a right...what does that change?</quote> The fact that america is lacking a basic human right</quote> Okay...so youre entitled to another persons money because you think its a right?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KnicksRGarbage 05/15/17 7:35:46 AM #70:	scar the 1 posted... KnicksRGarbage posted... Why do kids keep saying that....no matter your bank account you will be treated. Holy crap people need to stop using emotions as an argument I'm turning 29. Why would you call me a kid? And yeah, I will be treated, because I live in a country where healthcare isn't gated by income. I figured anyone lying about something to "win" a debate must be a child. You won't die if you're broke in America because its illegal to be turned away --- #whitelivesmatter <cite>KnicksRGarbage posted [p:879130140] in Is healthc... [t:75347172]...</cite> <quote><cite>scar the 1 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KnicksRGarbage posted...</cite> <quote>Why do kids keep saying that....no matter your bank account you will be treated. Holy crap people need to stop using emotions as an argument</quote> I'm turning 29. Why would you call me a kid? And yeah, I will be treated, because I live in a country where healthcare isn't gated by income.</quote> I figured anyone lying about something to "win" a debate must be a child. You won't die if you're broke in America because its illegal to be turned away</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scar the 1 05/15/17 7:39:05 AM #71:	KnicksRGarbage posted... scar the 1 posted... KnicksRGarbage posted... Why do kids keep saying that....no matter your bank account you will be treated. Holy crap people need to stop using emotions as an argument I'm turning 29. Why would you call me a kid? And yeah, I will be treated, because I live in a country where healthcare isn't gated by income. I figured anyone lying about something to "win" a debate must be a child. You won't die if you're broke in America because its illegal to be turned away Oh ok, so what about preventative care? Or letting the free market handle things like dialysis, where they essentially trick people into not trying to get kidney transplants, effectively increasing the risk of death by a lot? I mean people do die because they can't afford treatments. Or because there's an economic incentive to keep them on sub-optimal treatments. --- Everything has an end, except for the sausage. It has two. <cite>scar the 1 posted [p:879130214] in Is healthc... [t:75347172]...</cite> <quote><cite>KnicksRGarbage posted...</cite> <quote><cite>scar the 1 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KnicksRGarbage posted...</cite> <quote>Why do kids keep saying that....no matter your bank account you will be treated. Holy crap people need to stop using emotions as an argument</quote> I'm turning 29. Why would you call me a kid? And yeah, I will be treated, because I live in a country where healthcare isn't gated by income.</quote> I figured anyone lying about something to "win" a debate must be a child. You won't die if you're broke in America because its illegal to be turned away</quote> Oh ok, so what about preventative care? Or letting the free market handle things like dialysis, where they essentially trick people into not trying to get kidney transplants, effectively increasing the risk of death by a lot? I mean people do die because they can't afford treatments. Or because there's an economic incentive to keep them on sub-optimal treatments.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 05/15/17 7:43:15 AM #72:	KnicksRGarbage posted... Rika_Furude posted... it's a basic human right. anyone here arguing otherwise is on the wrong side of history @Rika_Furude okay lets say its a right...what does that change? The fact that america is lacking a basic human rightLorenzo_2003 posted... Rika_Furude posted... it's a basic human right. anyone here arguing otherwise is on the wrong side of history There is no such thing as the wrong side of history. That's just some feel-good nonsense that people tell themselves when they're pushing an agenda. Human behavior changes culture and culture changes human behavior. All the things you support today have the potential to be completely dismissed in the future. Yes there is. Hitler, isis, north korea/china at the moment And yes, hospitals letting people die on their literal doorsteps is as evil as what i have mentioned --- http://www.imgur.com/oQHLBrx.jpg http://www.imgur.com/ah5IE8D.jpg http://www.imgur.com/USV84z9.jpg http://www.imgur.com/PSjlohO.jpg <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:879130312] in Is healthc... [t:75347172]...</cite> <quote><cite>KnicksRGarbage posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote>it's a basic human right. anyone here arguing otherwise is on the wrong side of history</quote> @Rika_Furude okay lets say its a right...what does that change?</quote> The fact that america is lacking a basic human right<cite>Lorenzo_2003 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote>it's a basic human right. anyone here arguing otherwise is on the wrong side of history</quote> There is no such thing as the wrong side of history. That's just some feel-good nonsense that people tell themselves when they're pushing an agenda. Human behavior changes culture and culture changes human behavior. All the things you support today have the potential to be completely dismissed in the future.</quote> Yes there is. Hitler, isis, north korea/china at the moment And yes, hospitals letting people die on their literal doorsteps is as evil as what i have mentioned</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
l Dudeboy l 05/15/17 7:44:21 AM #73:	KnicksRGarbage posted... scar the 1 posted... Lorenzo_2003 posted... All the things you support today have the potential to be completely dismissed in the future. Absolutely, and if we move into a future where healthcare isn't a human right, and people die on account of not having enough money, then we're moving into the wrong future. Why do kids keep saying that....no matter your bank account you will be treated. Holy crap people need to stop using emotions as an argument Yeah, you just get put into massive debt instead. --- You are now breathing manually. Lets put a little lead in the air, and see what falls over. <cite>l Dudeboy l posted [p:879130341] in Is healthc... [t:75347172]...</cite> <quote><cite>KnicksRGarbage posted...</cite> <quote><cite>scar the 1 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Lorenzo_2003 posted...</cite> <quote>All the things you support today have the potential to be completely dismissed in the future.</quote> Absolutely, and if we move into a future where healthcare isn't a human right, and people die on account of not having enough money, then we're moving into the wrong future.</quote> Why do kids keep saying that....no matter your bank account you will be treated. Holy crap people need to stop using emotions as an argument</quote> Yeah, you just get put into massive debt instead.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funkydog 05/15/17 7:44:33 AM #74:	KnicksRGarbage posted... Okay...so youre entitled to another persons money because you think its a right? Guess it's time to only let police and firemen help whoever pays an directly. --- http://i.imgur.com/BGbZK.gif <cite>Funkydog posted [p:879130348] in Is healthc... [t:75347172]...</cite> <quote><cite>KnicksRGarbage posted...</cite> <quote>Okay...so youre entitled to another persons money because you think its a right?</quote> Guess it's time to only let police and firemen help whoever pays an directly.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 05/15/17 7:44:51 AM #75:	KnicksRGarbage posted... Rika_Furude posted... KnicksRGarbage posted... Rika_Furude posted... it's a basic human right. anyone here arguing otherwise is on the wrong side of history @Rika_Furude okay lets say its a right...what does that change? The fact that america is lacking a basic human right Okay...so youre entitled to another persons money because you think its a right? Im entitled to healthcare, yes. Spinning it as "another persons money" doesnt help your argumrnt. --- http://www.imgur.com/oQHLBrx.jpg http://www.imgur.com/ah5IE8D.jpg http://www.imgur.com/USV84z9.jpg http://www.imgur.com/PSjlohO.jpg <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:879130356] in Is healthc... [t:75347172]...</cite> <quote><cite>KnicksRGarbage posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KnicksRGarbage posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote>it's a basic human right. anyone here arguing otherwise is on the wrong side of history</quote> @Rika_Furude okay lets say its a right...what does that change?</quote> The fact that america is lacking a basic human right</quote> Okay...so youre entitled to another persons money because you think its a right?</quote> Im entitled to healthcare, yes. Spinning it as "another persons money" doesnt help your argumrnt.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kineth 05/15/17 7:45:38 AM #76:	Y'all need to not argue with KnicksRGarbage(JerseyProud). You're wasting your time. He'll eventually figure out that I have him on ignore. --- I call them boob implants because saying I'm getting a boobilicious chest full of science isn't likely to catch your attention. -gunplagirl <cite>Kineth posted [p:879130373] in Is healthc... [t:75347172]...</cite> <quote>Y'all need to not argue with KnicksRGarbage(JerseyProud). You're wasting your time. He'll eventually figure out that I have him on ignore.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KnicksRGarbage 05/15/17 7:51:52 AM #77:	Funkydog posted... KnicksRGarbage posted... Okay...so youre entitled to another persons money because you think its a right? Guess it's time to only let police and firemen help whoever pays an directly. This was already discussed. Please read thru the topic Kineth posted... Y'all need to not argue with KnicksRGarbage(JerseyProud). You're wasting your time. We are engaging in a mature debate. Please either contribute or see yourself out --- #whitelivesmatter <cite>KnicksRGarbage posted [p:879130522] in Is healthc... [t:75347172]...</cite> <quote><cite>Funkydog posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KnicksRGarbage posted...</cite> <quote>Okay...so youre entitled to another persons money because you think its a right?</quote> Guess it's time to only let police and firemen help whoever pays an directly.</quote> This was already discussed. Please read thru the topic <cite>Kineth posted...</cite> <quote>Y'all need to not argue with KnicksRGarbage(JerseyProud). You're wasting your time.</quote> We are engaging in a mature debate. Please either contribute or see yourself out</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KnicksRGarbage 05/15/17 7:52:34 AM #78:	Rika_Furude posted... KnicksRGarbage posted... Rika_Furude posted... KnicksRGarbage posted... Rika_Furude posted... it's a basic human right. anyone here arguing otherwise is on the wrong side of history @Rika_Furude okay lets say its a right...what does that change? The fact that america is lacking a basic human right Okay...so youre entitled to another persons money because you think its a right? Im entitled to healthcare, yes. Spinning it as "another persons money" doesnt help your argumrnt. But im not spinning it. Thats essentially what it is...should you pay for my guns. Because that is actually a right --- #whitelivesmatter <cite>KnicksRGarbage posted [p:879130537] in Is healthc... [t:75347172]...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KnicksRGarbage posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KnicksRGarbage posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote>it's a basic human right. anyone here arguing otherwise is on the wrong side of history</quote> @Rika_Furude okay lets say its a right...what does that change?</quote> The fact that america is lacking a basic human right</quote> Okay...so youre entitled to another persons money because you think its a right?</quote> Im entitled to healthcare, yes. Spinning it as "another persons money" doesnt help your argumrnt.</quote> But im not spinning it. Thats essentially what it is...should you pay for my guns. Because that is actually a right</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 05/15/17 7:53:01 AM #79:	KnicksRGarbage posted... Rika_Furude posted... KnicksRGarbage posted... Rika_Furude posted... KnicksRGarbage posted... Rika_Furude posted... it's a basic human right. anyone here arguing otherwise is on the wrong side of history @Rika_Furude okay lets say its a right...what does that change? The fact that america is lacking a basic human right Okay...so youre entitled to another persons money because you think its a right? Im entitled to healthcare, yes. Spinning it as "another persons money" doesnt help your argumrnt. But im not spinning it. Thats essentially what it is...should you pay for my guns. Because that is actually a right lol --- http://www.imgur.com/oQHLBrx.jpg http://www.imgur.com/ah5IE8D.jpg http://www.imgur.com/USV84z9.jpg http://www.imgur.com/PSjlohO.jpg <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:879130544] in Is healthc... [t:75347172]...</cite> <quote><cite>KnicksRGarbage posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KnicksRGarbage posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KnicksRGarbage posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote>it's a basic human right. anyone here arguing otherwise is on the wrong side of history</quote> @Rika_Furude okay lets say its a right...what does that change?</quote> The fact that america is lacking a basic human right</quote> Okay...so youre entitled to another persons money because you think its a right?</quote> Im entitled to healthcare, yes. Spinning it as "another persons money" doesnt help your argumrnt.</quote> But im not spinning it. Thats essentially what it is...should you pay for my guns. Because that is actually a right</quote> lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funkydog 05/15/17 7:53:41 AM #80:	KnicksRGarbage posted... We are engaging in a mature debate. Please either contribute or see yourself out Lol --- http://i.imgur.com/BGbZK.gif <cite>Funkydog posted [p:879130568] in Is healthc... [t:75347172]...</cite> <quote><cite>KnicksRGarbage posted...</cite> <quote>We are engaging in a mature debate. Please either contribute or see yourself out</quote> Lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KnicksRGarbage 05/15/17 8:00:45 AM #81:	Funkydog posted... KnicksRGarbage posted... We are engaging in a mature debate. Please either contribute or see yourself out Lol How are we not. Rika , Tc, & myself are all discussing the health care in a respectful way. Its actually how discussions happen. --- #whitelivesmatter <cite>KnicksRGarbage posted [p:879130709] in Is healthc... [t:75347172]...</cite> <quote><cite>Funkydog posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KnicksRGarbage posted...</cite> <quote>We are engaging in a mature debate. Please either contribute or see yourself out</quote> Lol</quote> How are we not. Rika , Tc, & myself are all discussing the health care in a respectful way. Its actually how discussions happen.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KnicksRGarbage 05/15/17 8:01:12 AM #82:	Rika_Furude posted... KnicksRGarbage posted... Rika_Furude posted... KnicksRGarbage posted... Rika_Furude posted... KnicksRGarbage posted... Rika_Furude posted... it's a basic human right. anyone here arguing otherwise is on the wrong side of history @Rika_Furude okay lets say its a right...what does that change? The fact that america is lacking a basic human right Okay...so youre entitled to another persons money because you think its a right? Im entitled to healthcare, yes. Spinning it as "another persons money" doesnt help your argumrnt. But im not spinning it. Thats essentially what it is...should you pay for my guns. Because that is actually a right lol Care to elaborate --- #whitelivesmatter <cite>KnicksRGarbage posted [p:879130717] in Is healthc... [t:75347172]...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KnicksRGarbage posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KnicksRGarbage posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KnicksRGarbage posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote>it's a basic human right. anyone here arguing otherwise is on the wrong side of history</quote> @Rika_Furude okay lets say its a right...what does that change?</quote> The fact that america is lacking a basic human right</quote> Okay...so youre entitled to another persons money because you think its a right?</quote> Im entitled to healthcare, yes. Spinning it as "another persons money" doesnt help your argumrnt.</quote> But im not spinning it. Thats essentially what it is...should you pay for my guns. Because that is actually a right</quote> lol</quote> Care to elaborate</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 05/15/17 8:08:13 AM #83:	KnicksRGarbage posted... Care to elaborate guns are a right but healthcare is not? i'm sorry but i cant help but laugh --- http://www.imgur.com/oQHLBrx.jpg http://www.imgur.com/ah5IE8D.jpg http://www.imgur.com/USV84z9.jpg http://www.imgur.com/PSjlohO.jpg <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:879130888] in Is healthc... [t:75347172]...</cite> <quote><cite>KnicksRGarbage posted...</cite> <quote> Care to elaborate</quote> guns are a right but healthcare is not? i'm sorry but i cant help but laugh</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KnicksRGarbage 05/15/17 8:13:27 AM #84:	Rika_Furude posted... KnicksRGarbage posted... Care to elaborate guns are a right but healthcare is not? i'm sorry but i cant help but laugh You said health care is a right (its not) I pointed out that the right to bare arms is a right. (It is) You said other people should pay for your health care cause its a right...so i asked if you feel that way about health care then the same must apply to an actual right --- #whitelivesmatter <cite>KnicksRGarbage posted [p:879131036] in Is healthc... [t:75347172]...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KnicksRGarbage posted...</cite> <quote> Care to elaborate</quote> guns are a right but healthcare is not? i'm sorry but i cant help but laugh</quote> You said health care is a right (its not) I pointed out that the right to bare arms is a right. (It is) You said other people should pay for your health care cause its a right...so i asked if you feel that way about health care then the same must apply to an actual right</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 05/15/17 8:14:29 AM #85:	KnicksRGarbage posted... Rika_Furude posted... KnicksRGarbage posted... Care to elaborate guns are a right but healthcare is not? i'm sorry but i cant help but laugh You said health care is a right (its not) I pointed out that the right to bare arms is a right. (It is) You said other people should pay for your health care cause its a right...so i asked if you feel that way about health care then the same must apply to an actual right you are brainwashed --- http://www.imgur.com/oQHLBrx.jpg http://www.imgur.com/ah5IE8D.jpg http://www.imgur.com/USV84z9.jpg http://www.imgur.com/PSjlohO.jpg <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:879131065] in Is healthc... [t:75347172]...</cite> <quote><cite>KnicksRGarbage posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KnicksRGarbage posted...</cite> <quote> Care to elaborate</quote> guns are a right but healthcare is not? i'm sorry but i cant help but laugh</quote> You said health care is a right (its not) I pointed out that the right to bare arms is a right. (It is) You said other people should pay for your health care cause its a right...so i asked if you feel that way about health care then the same must apply to an actual right</quote> you are brainwashed</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KnicksRGarbage 05/15/17 8:17:08 AM #86:	Rika_Furude posted... KnicksRGarbage posted... Rika_Furude posted... KnicksRGarbage posted... Care to elaborate guns are a right but healthcare is not? i'm sorry but i cant help but laugh You said health care is a right (its not) I pointed out that the right to bare arms is a right. (It is) You said other people should pay for your health care cause its a right...so i asked if you feel that way about health care then the same must apply to an actual right you are brainwashed Great rebuttal --- #whitelivesmatter <cite>KnicksRGarbage posted [p:879131128] in Is healthc... [t:75347172]...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KnicksRGarbage posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KnicksRGarbage posted...</cite> <quote> Care to elaborate</quote> guns are a right but healthcare is not? i'm sorry but i cant help but laugh</quote> You said health care is a right (its not) I pointed out that the right to bare arms is a right. (It is) You said other people should pay for your health care cause its a right...so i asked if you feel that way about health care then the same must apply to an actual right</quote> you are brainwashed</quote> Great rebuttal</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 05/15/17 8:19:34 AM #87:	im sorry but i cant think of someone who thinks "guns are a real right and healthcare isn't" as anything but brainwashed --- http://www.imgur.com/oQHLBrx.jpg http://www.imgur.com/ah5IE8D.jpg http://www.imgur.com/USV84z9.jpg http://www.imgur.com/PSjlohO.jpg <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:879131196] in Is healthc... [t:75347172]...</cite> <quote>im sorry but i cant think of someone who thinks "guns are a real right and healthcare isn't" as anything but brainwashed</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foreveraIone 05/15/17 8:20:38 AM #88:	All hail our Australian overlords --- http://i.imgtc.com/qieELu9.jpg Always. Edgy. <cite>foreveraIone posted [p:879131221] in Is healthc... [t:75347172]...</cite> <quote>All hail our Australian overlords</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
anth0ny 05/15/17 8:20:51 AM #89:	stop trying to brainwash people itt user @KnicksRGarbage --- moo <cite>anth0ny posted [p:879131225] in Is healthc... [t:75347172]...</cite> <quote>stop trying to brainwash people itt user @KnicksRGarbage</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
anth0ny 05/15/17 8:20:56 AM #90:	!!! --- moo <cite>anth0ny posted [p:879131227] in Is healthc... [t:75347172]...</cite> <quote>!!!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KnicksRGarbage 05/15/17 8:21:56 AM #91:	Rika_Furude posted... im sorry but i cant think of someone who thinks "guns are a real right and healthcare isn't" as anything but brainwashed But itsl factually correct i dont even see why you're acting immature. Oh Well that's CE for you --- #whitelivesmatter <cite>KnicksRGarbage posted [p:879131254] in Is healthc... [t:75347172]...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote>im sorry but i cant think of someone who thinks "guns are a real right and healthcare isn't" as anything but brainwashed</quote> But itsl factually correct i dont even see why you're acting immature. Oh Well that's CE for you</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 05/15/17 8:34:31 AM #92:	i'd rather have a gun nut pretend i'm "immature" than lose a basic human right such as healthcare --- http://www.imgur.com/oQHLBrx.jpg http://www.imgur.com/ah5IE8D.jpg http://www.imgur.com/USV84z9.jpg http://www.imgur.com/PSjlohO.jpg <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:879131577] in Is healthc... [t:75347172]...</cite> <quote>i'd rather have a gun nut pretend i'm "immature" than lose a basic human right such as healthcare</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ReignFury 05/15/17 8:39:57 AM #93:	Heathcare should be a right if youre paying tax for everything, well taxes on top of taxes etc. Otherwise we might as well make everyone buy fire service insurance as well --- MAKE AMERICA SMART AGAIN http://i.giftrunk.com/rv4b2c.gif <cite>ReignFury posted [p:879131732] in Is healthc... [t:75347172]...</cite> <quote>Heathcare should be a right if youre paying tax for everything, well taxes on top of taxes etc. Otherwise we might as well make everyone buy fire service insurance as well</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 05/15/17 8:42:20 AM #94:	Questionmarktarius posted... Everyone's medical bills could be covered if everyone just pitched in $862.09 a month. http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/new-peak-us-health-care-spending-10345-per-person/ So, more than I pay for rent, car payment, and gas per month... Fact is, pre-Obamacare, my health insurance premium for me, my pregnant wife, and six-year-old son, was under $200 a mo th, and we almost never paid anything outside our $25 copay. You libs fucked that all up, and because of it, I'm divorced. --- Deus Ex Wii U is $20-$55 more expensive than other versions, but it only didn't sell because Wii U owners don't like third-party games. - king_madden <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:879131809] in Is healthc... [t:75347172]...</cite> <quote><cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote>Everyone's medical bills could be covered if everyone just pitched in $862.09 a month. http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/new-peak-us-health-care-spending-10345-per-person/</quote> So, more than I pay for rent, car payment, and gas per month... Fact is, pre-Obamacare, my health insurance premium for me, my pregnant wife, and six-year-old son, was under $200 a mo th, and we almost never paid anything outside our $25 copay. You libs fucked that all up, and because of it, I'm divorced.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
l Dudeboy l 05/15/17 8:47:53 AM #95:	I pay nothing a month in health insurance and get treated whenever I want for free. --- You are now breathing manually. Lets put a little lead in the air, and see what falls over. <cite>l Dudeboy l posted [p:879131964] in Is healthc... [t:75347172]...</cite> <quote>I pay nothing a month in health insurance and get treated whenever I want for free.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scar the 1 05/15/17 8:48:03 AM #96:	Kineth posted... Y'all need to not argue with KnicksRGarbage(JerseyProud). Oh I didn't realize it was him, thanks for the heads up. --- Everything has an end, except for the sausage. It has two. <cite>scar the 1 posted [p:879131971] in Is healthc... [t:75347172]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kineth posted...</cite> <quote>Y'all need to not argue with KnicksRGarbage(JerseyProud). </quote> Oh I didn't realize it was him, thanks for the heads up.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bumjuice001 05/15/17 8:58:33 AM #97:	I want to believe we've come to a point in society where healthcare is a right. --- If you can take a ****, you can probably take a joke <cite>Bumjuice001 posted [p:879132289] in Is healthc... [t:75347172]...</cite> <quote>I want to believe we've come to a point in society where healthcare is a right.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KnicksRGarbage 05/15/17 8:59:06 AM #98:	Rika_Furude posted... i'd rather have a gun nut pretend i'm "immature" than lose a basic human right such as healthcare Im not a gun nut. Not sure why you keep resorting to insults and immaturity but i guess thats how you were raised. Hopefully once you get real world experience you grow up. Then again you're probably only acting like this because you're online. --- #whitelivesmatter <cite>KnicksRGarbage posted [p:879132311] in Is healthc... [t:75347172]...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote>i'd rather have a gun nut pretend i'm "immature" than lose a basic human right such as healthcare</quote> Im not a gun nut. Not sure why you keep resorting to insults and immaturity but i guess thats how you were raised. Hopefully once you get real world experience you grow up. Then again you're probably only acting like this because you're online.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
__Cam__ 05/15/17 9:01:39 AM #99:	Emergency healthcare should be guaranteed to all citizens. Everything else is a grey area. --- i5-7600K (Kaby Lake) \| GTX 1070 \| 16GB DDR4 \| GIGABYTE GA-Z270-HD3 <cite>__Cam__ posted [p:879132393] in Is healthc... [t:75347172]...</cite> <quote>Emergency healthcare should be guaranteed to all citizens. Everything else is a grey area.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Life Sympathy 05/15/17 9:07:38 AM #100:	QuantumScript posted... but then the left will bitch about that too, and itll never be enough. and most of the time it isnt enough - if you need private plans like in canada or romania, what was the point of taxing people more for a bare minimum public option? If you go looking for dissent you will find it regardless of opinion. No point in being a negative nancy about it. Taxing people would go into Medicare, Medicaid, S/CHIP, and others would it not? Those are not going anywhere as they have special rules attached to them that wouldn't apply to a social plan you would pay for. --- We're surrounding you. We see you, but you probably don't see us. And if you see us, we're not letting on that we see you. <cite>Life Sympathy posted [p:879132556] in Is healthc... [t:75347172]...</cite> <quote><cite>QuantumScript posted...</cite> <quote>but then the left will bitch about that too, and itll never be enough. and most of the time it isnt enough - if you need private plans like in canada or romania, what was the point of taxing people more for a bare minimum public option?</quote> If you go looking for dissent you will find it regardless of opinion. No point in being a negative nancy about it. Taxing people would go into Medicare, Medicaid, S/CHIP, and others would it not? Those are not going anywhere as they have special rules attached to them that wouldn't apply to a social plan you would pay for.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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