"they did happened" Universal K-12th has clearly failed you.
And lol at your anecdotes anyway. If you think those are a reason to be against uhc then you must really hate our system.
And lol @ your link to a "libertarian" think tank.
What about the people who die here because they have no insurance and can't get any initial appointments, let alone follow-ups. And what about all the pregnant women with no insurance who don't get any doctor's visits?
No system is 100% perfect but one where everybody pays in and everyone gets insurance is a hell of a lot better than ours.
**** off, grammar nazi. Judging by your writing, it also failed you.
I never said I was against it. What you're failing to understand is that there are limits to free coverage and I've seen the consequences of limited provider resources.
Pregnant women should get coverage, and there are many government and organizations that can help them. However, anything free without conditions, it's ripe for chaos. Fat people need stop drinking soda, otherwise they'll back up the entire system. They are the main reason why healthcare is so expensive to begin with. ---
Why do kids keep saying that....no matter your bank account you will be treated.
I thought you just said we weren't guaranteed anyone's labour or money. Why is treatment guaranteed then?
KnicksRGarbage posted...
why should someone else pay for someone elses injury esp if the injury happened because of negligence
Wait but you just said no matter your bank account you will be treated. Which is it??
I asked a question....if you cant apply context to posts dont quote me or engage in a conversation with me.
@shevman
You asked rhetorical questions and formed conflicting statements so how about you clarify your position here. If the government cannot demand labour why is treatment guaranteed?
I didnt tho....read and use context n reading comprehension. People awlays so quick to prove someone wrong that they sacrifice common sense
So what's your nuanced context to "no matter your bank account you will be treated"? Cos I got the impression that was a general statement/truism.
I want to tell you guys about the dirty little secrets of universal healthcare.
People may get universal coverage, but you can still be DENIED of procedures. That's right, healthcare providers can turn you away. There's a long waiting time to get certain procedures and you can wait for months, if not years.
- My friend's friend's father who lives in England died recently because he couldn't get proper followup treatment after having a stroke. He died while waiting to get treated. How f***** up is that?
- The relative of a friend only get a limited amount of visits in Norway for her pregnancy. She had a miscarriage. Maybe it's not the fault of the system, but she still had limited amount of visits. Any additional visits must be paid out of pocket.
People think it's unicorn and rainbows. It's not. With 330 Million people and about 70 million obese people, the wait for proper medical treatment is a long, long, long wait.
Nice fearmongering. What you fail to disclose is that the UK and other UHS systems have significantly higher life expectancies than the USA, and spend significantly less money achieving these better health outcomes. DESPITE rationing of resources and longer waiting times.
I want to tell you guys about the dirty little secrets of universal healthcare.
People may get universal coverage, but you can still be DENIED of procedures. That's right, healthcare providers can turn you away. There's a long waiting time to get certain procedures and you can wait for months, if not years.
- My friend's friend's father who lives in England died recently because he couldn't get proper followup treatment after having a stroke. He died while waiting to get treated. How f***** up is that?
- The relative of a friend only get a limited amount of visits in Norway for her pregnancy. She had a miscarriage. Maybe it's not the fault of the system, but she still had limited amount of visits. Any additional visits must be paid out of pocket.
People think it's unicorn and rainbows. It's not. With 330 Million people and about 70 million obese people, the wait for proper medical treatment is a long, long, long wait.
Nice fearmongering. What you fail to disclose is that the UK and other UHS systems have significantly higher life expectancies than the USA, and spend significantly less money achieving these better health outcomes. DESPITE rationing of resources and longer waiting times.
Life expectancy isn't entirely a product of accessible, affordable, or quality of health care. It isn't even a product of those 3 things combined. Genetics, lifestyle, diet, exercising habits, and even things like the climate and weather as well as many other things all affect how long a person lives. The fact that Americans drive automobiles more than any other country alone has a pretty significant effect on the average life span.
All of those lifestyle factors have significantly deteriorated in developed nations over the past 50 years so you're completely wrong there. The advent of Penicillin nearly doubled human life expectancy, so again - you're misrepresenting the importance of healthcare when it comes to life expectancy.
