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Doctor Foxx 05/18/17 5:32:47 PM #51:	chaosbowser posted... The whole things reeks even without hard evidence. Which you'll be hard pressed to ever find. Read the whole transcript. The conversation before that sworn to secrecy "joke" is something smelly indeed http://apps.washingtonpost.com/g/documents/national/read-the-transcript-of-the-conversation-among-gop-leaders-obtained-by-the-post/2437/?tid=sm_tw --- Never write off the Doctor! <cite>Doctor Foxx posted [p:879361410] in House majo... [t:75358034]...</cite> <quote><cite>chaosbowser posted...</cite> <quote> The whole things reeks even without hard evidence. Which you'll be hard pressed to ever find.</quote> Read the whole transcript. The conversation before that sworn to secrecy "joke" is something smelly indeed http://apps.washingtonpost.com/g/documents/national/read-the-transcript-of-the-conversation-among-gop-leaders-obtained-by-the-post/2437/?tid=sm_tw</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Unfernal_Server 05/18/17 5:34:56 PM #52:	The great part about this tape was the rollout. Media tells the politicians they heard these conversations occurred, politicians deny they ever happened, media tells the politicians they have transcripts of the conversations, politicians say the transcripts are falsified. Media tells the politicians they have a recording of the conversation, politicians say that they were just joking. --- =^..^= <cite>Unfernal_Server posted [p:879361548] in House majo... [t:75358034]...</cite> <quote>The great part about this tape was the rollout. Media tells the politicians they heard these conversations occurred, politicians deny they ever happened, media tells the politicians they have transcripts of the conversations, politicians say the transcripts are falsified. Media tells the politicians they have a recording of the conversation, politicians say that they were just joking.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 05/18/17 6:12:18 PM #53:	SushiSquid posted... Nah, he's fucked. And stop defending Putin. That shit's creepy. The dude is a murderer and liar. Everybody's a liar and the murder claims are unproven. KevinceKostner posted... Trump's not some magical outsider that's gonna bring balance to the force, he's an nutbag that said that right sort of shit at the right time when people wanted to stick it to the system. He has no qualifications for the position and has shown every inclination he doesn't even want the job, he's no goddamn hero. He says not remembering how Anakin brought "balance" to the force... chaosbowser posted... Trump's general responses that are nearly an implicit admission of guilt (as he has an idiotic tendency to do like "even if I did tell the Russians highly classified information I totally was allowed to do it.") Also, his behavior is something you'd expect from a guilty individual. Once you already believe something with all your heart, you can see signs everywhere. If you're even remotely skeptical, however, you see that there's not a leg for this conspiracy to stand on and it's more shallow than the claim that GWB masterminded 9/11. The entire argument for collusion is nothing more than a stack of frivilous claims where the sheer number is being pushed in the absence of any actual evidence. (Never mind that many of these claims are debunked or that the entire process has a political agenda!) chaosbowser posted... There's also the whole Flynn compromised by Russia problem where the DoJ went out of their way to inform them they need to take action and the white house did nothing until the press broke the news. Then the most recent news break that Trump was aware that Flynn was being investigated for connections to Russia before tapping him. The whole things reeks even without hard evidence. Which you'll be hard pressed to ever find. And if you look at the actual claims and allegations, you see how hollow the case against Flynn was. Essentially the ONLY unknown as that he had met with a Russian ambassador and he was cleared of any wrongdoing afterward. While he had failed to file his ties to Russia, he had disclosed them. Literally the only thing wrong is the APPEARANCE of impropriety, not any actual impropriety except for the missed filing. When you look at the evidence instead of the speculation, it's all pretty weak. As for Trump selecting Flynn, do you mean Trump was informed selecting him as campaign manager or before selecting him as an advisor? Overlooking, again, that Trump would have had good reason to suspect that these claims were being made to sabotage his candidacy/presidency. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| In Zeus We Trust: All Others Pay Cash <cite>Zeus posted [p:879364122] in House majo... [t:75358034]...</cite> <quote><cite>SushiSquid posted...</cite> <quote>Nah, he's fucked. And stop defending Putin. That shit's creepy. The dude is a murderer and liar.</quote> Everybody's a liar and the murder claims are unproven. <cite>KevinceKostner posted...</cite> <quote>Trump's not some magical outsider that's gonna bring balance to the force, he's an nutbag that said that right sort of shit at the right time when people wanted to stick it to the system. He has no qualifications for the position and has shown every inclination he doesn't even want the job, he's no goddamn hero.</quote> He says not remembering how Anakin brought "balance" to the force... <cite>chaosbowser posted...</cite> <quote>Trump's general responses that are nearly an implicit admission of guilt (as he has an idiotic tendency to do like "even if I did tell the Russians highly classified information I totally was allowed to do it.") Also, his behavior is something you'd expect from a guilty individual.</quote> Once you already believe something with all your heart, you can see signs everywhere. If you're even remotely skeptical, however, you see that there's not a leg for this conspiracy to stand on and it's more shallow than the claim that GWB masterminded 9/11. The entire argument for collusion is nothing more than a stack of frivilous claims where the sheer number is being pushed in the absence of any actual evidence. (Never mind that many of these claims are debunked or that the entire process has a political agenda!) <cite>chaosbowser posted...</cite> <quote>There's also the whole Flynn compromised by Russia problem where the DoJ went out of their way to inform them they need to take action and the white house did nothing until the press broke the news. Then the most recent news break that Trump was aware that Flynn was being investigated for connections to Russia before tapping him. The whole things reeks even without hard evidence. Which you'll be hard pressed to ever find.</quote> And if you look at the actual claims and allegations, you see how hollow the case against Flynn was. Essentially the ONLY unknown as that he had met with a Russian ambassador and he was cleared of any wrongdoing afterward. While he had failed to file his ties to Russia, he had disclosed them. Literally the only thing wrong is the APPEARANCE of impropriety, not any actual impropriety except for the missed filing. When you look at the evidence instead of the speculation, it's all pretty weak. As for Trump selecting Flynn, do you mean Trump was informed selecting him as campaign manager or before selecting him as an advisor? Overlooking, again, that Trump would have had good reason to suspect that these claims were being made to sabotage his candidacy/presidency.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
chaosbowser 05/18/17 6:30:42 PM #54:	Zeus posted... SushiSquid posted... Nah, he's fucked. And stop defending Putin. That shit's creepy. The dude is a murderer and liar. Everybody's a liar and the murder claims are unproven. KevinceKostner posted... Trump's not some magical outsider that's gonna bring balance to the force, he's an nutbag that said that right sort of shit at the right time when people wanted to stick it to the system. He has no qualifications for the position and has shown every inclination he doesn't even want the job, he's no goddamn hero. He says not remembering how Anakin brought "balance" to the force... chaosbowser posted... Trump's general responses that are nearly an implicit admission of guilt (as he has an idiotic tendency to do like "even if I did tell the Russians highly classified information I totally was allowed to do it.") Also, his behavior is something you'd expect from a guilty individual. Once you already believe something with all your heart, you can see signs everywhere. If you're even remotely skeptical, however, you see that there's not a leg for this conspiracy to stand on and it's more shallow than the claim that GWB masterminded 9/11. The entire argument for collusion is nothing more than a stack of frivilous claims where the sheer number is being pushed in the absence of any actual evidence. (Never mind that many of these claims are debunked or that the entire process has a political agenda!) chaosbowser posted... There's also the whole Flynn compromised by Russia problem where the DoJ went out of their way to inform them they need to take action and the white house did nothing until the press broke the news. Then the most recent news break that Trump was aware that Flynn was being investigated for connections to Russia before tapping him. The whole things reeks even without hard evidence. Which you'll be hard pressed to ever find. And if you look at the actual claims and allegations, you see how hollow the case against Flynn was. Essentially the ONLY unknown as that he had met with a Russian ambassador and he was cleared of any wrongdoing afterward. While he had failed to file his ties to Russia, he had disclosed them. Literally the only thing wrong is the APPEARANCE of impropriety, not any actual impropriety except for the missed filing. When you look at the evidence instead of the speculation, it's all pretty weak. As for Trump selecting Flynn, do you mean Trump was informed selecting him as campaign manager or before selecting him as an advisor? Overlooking, again, that Trump would have had good reason to suspect that these claims were being made to sabotage his candidacy/presidency. Ah yes. There's not a leg for this conspiracy to stand on despite this now reaching criminal investigation status. Absolutely baseless. Off their rocker those dang liberals. I understand skepticism but what we got from the right like you Zeus was just outright denial. If we only moved forward because of hard evidence then we would have never had a case. At best you could look at the information and think "it does not look good for Flynn but lets wait it out" but instead the general consensus from the right was NO WAY IMPOSSIBLE THIS IS FAKE NEWS PROPAGANDA. The Trump and Flynn stuff is in this article. Told them weeks before the inauguration. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/17/us/politics/michael-flynn-donald-trump-national-security-adviser.html?_r=0 --- I love people. I hate people. <cite>chaosbowser posted [p:879365183] in House majo... [t:75358034]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SushiSquid posted...</cite> <quote>Nah, he's fucked. And stop defending Putin. That shit's creepy. The dude is a murderer and liar.</quote> Everybody's a liar and the murder claims are unproven. <cite>KevinceKostner posted...</cite> <quote>Trump's not some magical outsider that's gonna bring balance to the force, he's an nutbag that said that right sort of shit at the right time when people wanted to stick it to the system. He has no qualifications for the position and has shown every inclination he doesn't even want the job, he's no goddamn hero.</quote> He says not remembering how Anakin brought "balance" to the force... <cite>chaosbowser posted...</cite> <quote>Trump's general responses that are nearly an implicit admission of guilt (as he has an idiotic tendency to do like "even if I did tell the Russians highly classified information I totally was allowed to do it.") Also, his behavior is something you'd expect from a guilty individual.</quote> Once you already believe something with all your heart, you can see signs everywhere. If you're even remotely skeptical, however, you see that there's not a leg for this conspiracy to stand on and it's more shallow than the claim that GWB masterminded 9/11. The entire argument for collusion is nothing more than a stack of frivilous claims where the sheer number is being pushed in the absence of any actual evidence. (Never mind that many of these claims are debunked or that the entire process has a political agenda!) <cite>chaosbowser posted...</cite> <quote>There's also the whole Flynn compromised by Russia problem where the DoJ went out of their way to inform them they need to take action and the white house did nothing until the press broke the news. Then the most recent news break that Trump was aware that Flynn was being investigated for connections to Russia before tapping him. The whole things reeks even without hard evidence. Which you'll be hard pressed to ever find.</quote> And if you look at the actual claims and allegations, you see how hollow the case against Flynn was. Essentially the ONLY unknown as that he had met with a Russian ambassador and he was cleared of any wrongdoing afterward. While he had failed to file his ties to Russia, he had disclosed them. Literally the only thing wrong is the APPEARANCE of impropriety, not any actual impropriety except for the missed filing. When you look at the evidence instead of the speculation, it's all pretty weak. As for Trump selecting Flynn, do you mean Trump was informed selecting him as campaign manager or before selecting him as an advisor? Overlooking, again, that Trump would have had good reason to suspect that these claims were being made to sabotage his candidacy/presidency.</quote> Ah yes. There's not a leg for this conspiracy to stand on despite this now reaching criminal investigation status. Absolutely baseless. Off their rocker those dang liberals. I understand skepticism but what we got from the right like you Zeus was just outright denial. If we only moved forward because of hard evidence then we would have never had a case. At best you could look at the information and think "it does not look good for Flynn but lets wait it out" but instead the general consensus from the right was NO WAY IMPOSSIBLE THIS IS FAKE NEWS PROPAGANDA. The Trump and Flynn stuff is in this article. Told them weeks before the inauguration. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/17/us/politics/michael-flynn-donald-trump-national-security-adviser.html?_r=0</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 05/18/17 6:55:33 PM #55:	chaosbowser posted... Ah yes. There's not a leg for this conspiracy to stand on despite this now reaching criminal investigation status. Absolutely baseless. Off their rocker those dang liberals. WTF?! Are you living in your own personal reality? It's absolutely NOT reaching criminal investigation status. How do we know that? Because literally everybody involved -- including the special counsel -- specifically said that it's not a criminal investigation. The news sources have also been very careful not to wrongly claim that it's a criminal investigation, unless you're following some shady altnews that doesn't care about libel. chaosbowser posted... I understand skepticism but what we got from the right like you Zeus was just outright denial. If we only moved forward because of hard evidence then we would have never had a case. At best you could look at the information and think "it does not look good for Flynn but lets wait it out" but instead the general consensus from the right was NO WAY IMPOSSIBLE THIS IS FAKE NEWS PROPAGANDA. Because there IS no evidence. Look at the fucking recounts. There was NO EVIDENCE that anything improper had occurred. Despite that, we STILL had a recount. And what happened? There was no evidence of rigging on Trump's side, just that votes were being rounded up for Hillary in some districts by a marginal amount which was blamed as a glitch. The only people in denial are the useful fools claiming that there is collusion despite the fact that every time a lead is investigated it's disproved. We STILL have people claiming, "Oh, we don't know what Flynn said to the Russian ambassador," despite the fact that the FBI already cleared that. The entire case is predicated on bad information and therefore the result can only be wrong (unless something completely unrelated to Flynn, etc, occurred). chaosbowser posted... The Trump and Flynn stuff is in this article. Told them weeks before the inauguration. So AFTER Flynn was already on Team Trump for a long while and Trump trusted him? --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| In Zeus We Trust: All Others Pay Cash <cite>Zeus posted [p:879366668] in House majo... [t:75358034]...</cite> <quote><cite>chaosbowser posted...</cite> <quote>Ah yes. There's not a leg for this conspiracy to stand on despite this now reaching criminal investigation status. Absolutely baseless. Off their rocker those dang liberals. </quote> WTF?! Are you living in your own personal reality? It's absolutely NOT reaching criminal investigation status. How do we know that? Because literally everybody involved -- including the special counsel -- specifically said that it's not a criminal investigation. The news sources have also been very careful not to wrongly claim that it's a criminal investigation, unless you're following some shady altnews that doesn't care about libel. <cite>chaosbowser posted...</cite> <quote>I understand skepticism but what we got from the right like you Zeus was just outright denial. If we only moved forward because of hard evidence then we would have never had a case. At best you could look at the information and think "it does not look good for Flynn but lets wait it out" but instead the general consensus from the right was NO WAY IMPOSSIBLE THIS IS FAKE NEWS PROPAGANDA. </quote> Because there IS no evidence. Look at the fucking recounts. There was NO EVIDENCE that anything improper had occurred. Despite that, we STILL had a recount. And what happened? There was no evidence of rigging on Trump's side, just that votes were being rounded up for Hillary in some districts by a marginal amount which was blamed as a glitch. The only people in denial are the useful fools claiming that there is collusion despite the fact that every time a lead is investigated it's disproved. We STILL have people claiming, "Oh, we don't know what Flynn said to the Russian ambassador," despite the fact that the FBI already cleared that. The entire case is predicated on bad information and therefore the result can only be wrong (unless something completely unrelated to Flynn, etc, occurred). <cite>chaosbowser posted...</cite> <quote>The Trump and Flynn stuff is in this article. Told them weeks before the inauguration. </quote> So AFTER Flynn was already on Team Trump for a long while and Trump trusted him?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
chaosbowser 05/18/17 8:14:49 PM #56:	Zeus posted... WTF?! Are you living in your own personal reality? It's absolutely NOT reaching criminal investigation status. How do we know that? Because literally everybody involved -- including the special counsel -- specifically said that it's not a criminal investigation. The news sources have also been very careful not to wrongly claim that it's a criminal investigation, unless you're following some shady altnews that doesn't care about libel. sigh You've proven to me that you're clearly not following the news. https://www.washingtonpost.com/video/politics/graham-trump-russia-investigation-is-now-a-criminal-investigation/2017/05/18/cda10d5a-3bff-11e7-a59b-26e0451a96fd_video.html Straight from a senators mouth. Zeus posted... So AFTER Flynn was already on Team Trump for a long while and Trump trusted him? Yeah you're right i guess its too much to expect trump to re-evaluate if it was a good idea to keep someone under investigation for something rather serious in the white house. My bad. Let's all just assume he's just that stupid.Regardless of why he was kept on Trump has demonstrated that he's not cut out for president. He's either too stupid to be president or a traitor. --- I love people. I hate people. <cite>chaosbowser posted [p:879371367] in House majo... [t:75358034]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote>WTF?! Are you living in your own personal reality? It's absolutely NOT reaching criminal investigation status. How do we know that? Because literally everybody involved -- including the special counsel -- specifically said that it's not a criminal investigation. The news sources have also been very careful not to wrongly claim that it's a criminal investigation, unless you're following some shady altnews that doesn't care about libel. </quote> sigh You've proven to me that you're clearly not following the news. https://www.washingtonpost.com/video/politics/graham-trump-russia-investigation-is-now-a-criminal-investigation/2017/05/18/cda10d5a-3bff-11e7-a59b-26e0451a96fd_video.html Straight from a senators mouth. <cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote> So AFTER Flynn was already on Team Trump for a long while and Trump trusted him? </quote> Yeah you're right i guess its too much to expect trump to re-evaluate if it was a good idea to keep someone under investigation for something rather serious in the white house. My bad. Let's all just assume he's just that stupid.Regardless of why he was kept on Trump has demonstrated that he's not cut out for president. He's either too stupid to be president or a traitor.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wolfy42 05/18/17 8:22:54 PM #57:	War is, and has almost always been, good for the rich. Gets all the minions and slaves out there focused on something else besides the few who own almost everything, cuts down on population (although not as much now), and usually makes them a boat load of money in the process. --- Proud member of the Arv The Great is great fan club!!! Join today by putting it in your sig. <cite>wolfy42 posted [p:879371851] in House majo... [t:75358034]...</cite> <quote>War is, and has almost always been, good for the rich. Gets all the minions and slaves out there focused on something else besides the few who own almost everything, cuts down on population (although not as much now), and usually makes them a boat load of money in the process.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
chaosbowser 05/18/17 8:24:02 PM #58:	Zeus posted... Because there IS no evidence. Look at the fucking recounts. There was NO EVIDENCE that anything improper had occurred. Despite that, we STILL had a recount. And what happened? There was no evidence of rigging on Trump's side, just that votes were being rounded up for Hillary in some districts by a marginal amount which was blamed as a glitch. The only people in denial are the useful fools claiming that there is collusion despite the fact that every time a lead is investigated it's disproved. We STILL have people claiming, "Oh, we don't know what Flynn said to the Russian ambassador," despite the fact that the FBI already cleared that. The entire case is predicated on bad information and therefore the result can only be wrong (unless something completely unrelated to Flynn, etc, occurred). It's like you didn't even bother reading or watching the Sally Yates testimony. There is evidence. Its just classified. The DoJ is aware that Flynn was compromised by the Russians via blackmail. They in fact told trump about this weeks before Trump released him. He just chose to ignore the clear warning. Details on how he was blackmailed are just classified. I think schumer even had like a cute little white board that he wrote bullet points of exactly the tactics russia used for interfering with our election. --- I love people. I hate people. <cite>chaosbowser posted [p:879371916] in House majo... [t:75358034]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote>Because there IS no evidence. Look at the fucking recounts. There was NO EVIDENCE that anything improper had occurred. Despite that, we STILL had a recount. And what happened? There was no evidence of rigging on Trump's side, just that votes were being rounded up for Hillary in some districts by a marginal amount which was blamed as a glitch. The only people in denial are the useful fools claiming that there is collusion despite the fact that every time a lead is investigated it's disproved. We STILL have people claiming, "Oh, we don't know what Flynn said to the Russian ambassador," despite the fact that the FBI already cleared that. The entire case is predicated on bad information and therefore the result can only be wrong (unless something completely unrelated to Flynn, etc, occurred). </quote> It's like you didn't even bother reading or watching the Sally Yates testimony. There is evidence. Its just classified. The DoJ is aware that Flynn was compromised by the Russians via blackmail. They in fact told trump about this weeks before Trump released him. He just chose to ignore the clear warning. Details on how he was blackmailed are just classified. I think schumer even had like a cute little white board that he wrote bullet points of exactly the tactics russia used for interfering with our election.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
chaosbowser 05/18/17 10:11:23 PM #59:	@Zeus Got nothing else to say? --- I love people. I hate people. <cite>chaosbowser posted [p:879378210] in House majo... [t:75358034]...</cite> <quote>@Zeus Got nothing else to say?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 05/18/17 11:36:41 PM #60:	chaosbowser posted... Zeus posted... WTF?! Are you living in your own personal reality? It's absolutely NOT reaching criminal investigation status. How do we know that? Because literally everybody involved -- including the special counsel -- specifically said that it's not a criminal investigation. The news sources have also been very careful not to wrongly claim that it's a criminal investigation, unless you're following some shady altnews that doesn't care about libel. sigh You've proven to me that you're clearly not following the news. https://www.washingtonpost.com/video/politics/graham-trump-russia-investigation-is-now-a-criminal-investigation/2017/05/18/cda10d5a-3bff-11e7-a59b-26e0451a96fd_video.html Straight from a senators mouth. Except the one mouth that matters, the special counsel, has said that it's not. First, you have the guy who appointed the special counsel saying it's not: “My decision is not a finding that crimes have been committed or that any prosecution is warranted,” Mr. Rosenstein added. “I have made no such determination.” https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/17/us/politics/robert-mueller-special-counsel-russia-investigation.html Secondly, and more importantly, the person heading the investigation says it's not. Trying to find the clip, but he specifically mentioned that in a speech I caught on NPR on the way home. As for your source, which you apparently didn't consult, Lindsay Graham said is, "I THINK it's now considered a criminal investigation." Not that I'm surprised that you misunderstood, because you've opened your mouth wide so WaPo can feed you absolute crap. As far as bias goes, I put WaPo right next to MSNBC and Fox News. chaosbowser posted... Zeus posted... So AFTER Flynn was already on Team Trump for a long while and Trump trusted him? Yeah you're right i guess its too much to expect trump to re-evaluate if it was a good idea to keep someone under investigation for something rather serious in the white house. My bad. Let's all just assume he's just that stupid.Regardless of why he was kept on Trump has demonstrated that he's not cut out for president. He's either too stupid to be president or a traitor. You mean whether or not it's a good idea to trust a source which openly wants to subvert your administration to promote its agenda. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| In Zeus We Trust: All Others Pay Cash <cite>Zeus posted [p:879382685] in House majo... [t:75358034]...</cite> <quote><cite>chaosbowser posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote>WTF?! Are you living in your own personal reality? It's absolutely NOT reaching criminal investigation status. How do we know that? Because literally everybody involved -- including the special counsel -- specifically said that it's not a criminal investigation. The news sources have also been very careful not to wrongly claim that it's a criminal investigation, unless you're following some shady altnews that doesn't care about libel. </quote> sigh You've proven to me that you're clearly not following the news. https://www.washingtonpost.com/video/politics/graham-trump-russia-investigation-is-now-a-criminal-investigation/2017/05/18/cda10d5a-3bff-11e7-a59b-26e0451a96fd_video.html Straight from a senators mouth. </quote> Except the one mouth that matters, the special counsel, has said that it's not. First, you have the guy who appointed the special counsel saying it's not: “My decision is not a finding that crimes have been committed or that any prosecution is warranted,” Mr. Rosenstein added. “I have made no such determination.” https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/17/us/politics/robert-mueller-special-counsel-russia-investigation.html Secondly, and more importantly, the person heading the investigation says it's not. Trying to find the clip, but he specifically mentioned that in a speech I caught on NPR on the way home. As for your source, which you apparently didn't consult, Lindsay Graham said is, "I THINK it's now considered a criminal investigation." Not that I'm surprised that you misunderstood, because you've opened your mouth wide so WaPo can feed you absolute crap. As far as bias goes, I put WaPo right next to MSNBC and Fox News. <cite>chaosbowser posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote> So AFTER Flynn was already on Team Trump for a long while and Trump trusted him? </quote> Yeah you're right i guess its too much to expect trump to re-evaluate if it was a good idea to keep someone under investigation for something rather serious in the white house. My bad. Let's all just assume he's just that stupid.Regardless of why he was kept on Trump has demonstrated that he's not cut out for president. He's either too stupid to be president or a traitor.</quote> You mean whether or not it's a good idea to trust a source which openly wants to subvert your administration to promote its agenda.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 05/18/17 11:40:27 PM #61:	chaosbowser posted... @Zeus Got nothing else to say? @chaosbowser I haven't been around for the past few hours. I went out to get something to eat at 7:30 or a bit before that, made some stops -- including at Barnes & Noble where I picked up a ArtFX+ Emma Frost statue on clearance ($17 for a usually $70 statue -- grate deal) -- before eventually getting back at... I don't know, might have been 10:30. Can't remember. At rate, your response is above. Learn to be patient. I've got a LOT of people asking for my attention at any given moment and only so much time. All of the nonsense claims around here add up. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| In Zeus We Trust: All Others Pay Cash <cite>Zeus posted [p:879382889] in House majo... [t:75358034]...</cite> <quote><cite>chaosbowser posted...</cite> <quote>@Zeus Got nothing else to say?</quote> @chaosbowser I haven't been around for the past few hours. I went out to get something to eat at 7:30 or a bit before that, made some stops -- including at Barnes & Noble where I picked up a ArtFX+ Emma Frost statue on clearance ($17 for a usually $70 statue -- grate deal) -- before eventually getting back at... I don't know, might have been 10:30. Can't remember. At rate, your response is above. Learn to be patient. I've got a LOT of people asking for my attention at any given moment and only so much time. All of the nonsense claims around here add up.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
chaosbowser 05/19/17 8:48:24 AM #62:	Zeus posted... chaosbowser posted... Zeus posted... WTF?! Are you living in your own personal reality? It's absolutely NOT reaching criminal investigation status. How do we know that? Because literally everybody involved -- including the special counsel -- specifically said that it's not a criminal investigation. The news sources have also been very careful not to wrongly claim that it's a criminal investigation, unless you're following some shady altnews that doesn't care about libel. sigh You've proven to me that you're clearly not following the news. https://www.washingtonpost.com/video/politics/graham-trump-russia-investigation-is-now-a-criminal-investigation/2017/05/18/cda10d5a-3bff-11e7-a59b-26e0451a96fd_video.html Straight from a senators mouth. Except the one mouth that matters, the special counsel, has said that it's not. First, you have the guy who appointed the special counsel saying it's not: “My decision is not a finding that crimes have been committed or that any prosecution is warranted,” Mr. Rosenstein added. “I have made no such determination.” https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/17/us/politics/robert-mueller-special-counsel-russia-investigation.html Secondly, and more importantly, the person heading the investigation says it's not. Trying to find the clip, but he specifically mentioned that in a speech I caught on NPR on the way home. As for your source, which you apparently didn't consult, Lindsay Graham said is, "I THINK it's now considered a criminal investigation." Not that I'm surprised that you misunderstood, because you've opened your mouth wide so WaPo can feed you absolute crap. As far as bias goes, I put WaPo right next to MSNBC and Fox News. chaosbowser posted... Zeus posted... So AFTER Flynn was already on Team Trump for a long while and Trump trusted him? Yeah you're right i guess its too much to expect trump to re-evaluate if it was a good idea to keep someone under investigation for something rather serious in the white house. My bad. Let's all just assume he's just that stupid.Regardless of why he was kept on Trump has demonstrated that he's not cut out for president. He's either too stupid to be president or a traitor. You mean whether or not it's a good idea to trust a source which openly wants to subvert your administration to promote its agenda. You realize your article is more dated than mine right? The only thing anyone is demonstrating is your own refusal to accept reality. Graham made that statement after a briefing yesterday and he's basically saying that because its a criminal investigation that congress can no longer hold hearings the way its been doing. Also he didn't say he thinks. He said it seems to now be a criminal investigation because they're not able to review witnesses like they were before. Not that i'm surprised you misheard because you've closed your mind off to any real possibility that this shit is actually going somewhere. update: It's to my understanding that Rosenstein isn't the one who decides whether this is a criminal investigation anymore. This is all Mueller's game now. --- I love people. I hate people. <cite>chaosbowser posted [p:879398900] in House majo... [t:75358034]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>chaosbowser posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote>WTF?! Are you living in your own personal reality? It's absolutely NOT reaching criminal investigation status. How do we know that? Because literally everybody involved -- including the special counsel -- specifically said that it's not a criminal investigation. The news sources have also been very careful not to wrongly claim that it's a criminal investigation, unless you're following some shady altnews that doesn't care about libel. </quote> sigh You've proven to me that you're clearly not following the news. https://www.washingtonpost.com/video/politics/graham-trump-russia-investigation-is-now-a-criminal-investigation/2017/05/18/cda10d5a-3bff-11e7-a59b-26e0451a96fd_video.html Straight from a senators mouth. </quote> Except the one mouth that matters, the special counsel, has said that it's not. First, you have the guy who appointed the special counsel saying it's not: “My decision is not a finding that crimes have been committed or that any prosecution is warranted,” Mr. Rosenstein added. “I have made no such determination.” https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/17/us/politics/robert-mueller-special-counsel-russia-investigation.html Secondly, and more importantly, the person heading the investigation says it's not. Trying to find the clip, but he specifically mentioned that in a speech I caught on NPR on the way home. As for your source, which you apparently didn't consult, Lindsay Graham said is, "I THINK it's now considered a criminal investigation." Not that I'm surprised that you misunderstood, because you've opened your mouth wide so WaPo can feed you absolute crap. As far as bias goes, I put WaPo right next to MSNBC and Fox News. <cite>chaosbowser posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote> So AFTER Flynn was already on Team Trump for a long while and Trump trusted him? </quote> Yeah you're right i guess its too much to expect trump to re-evaluate if it was a good idea to keep someone under investigation for something rather serious in the white house. My bad. Let's all just assume he's just that stupid.Regardless of why he was kept on Trump has demonstrated that he's not cut out for president. He's either too stupid to be president or a traitor.</quote> You mean whether or not it's a good idea to trust a source which openly wants to subvert your administration to promote its agenda.</quote> You realize your article is more dated than mine right? The only thing anyone is demonstrating is your own refusal to accept reality. Graham made that statement after a briefing yesterday and he's basically saying that because its a criminal investigation that congress can no longer hold hearings the way its been doing. Also he didn't say he thinks. He said it seems to now be a criminal investigation because they're not able to review witnesses like they were before. Not that i'm surprised you misheard because you've closed your mind off to any real possibility that this shit is actually going somewhere. update: It's to my understanding that Rosenstein isn't the one who decides whether this is a criminal investigation anymore. This is all Mueller's game now.</quote> ... 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Zeus 05/20/17 5:08:50 AM #63:	chaosbowser posted... You realize your article is more dated than mine right? The only thing anyone is demonstrating is your own refusal to accept reality. Graham made that statement after a briefing yesterday and he's basically saying that because its a criminal investigation that congress can no longer hold hearings the way its been doing. You realize that you didn't even listen to what Graham said, right? So instead to relying on a secondary source NOT directly involved in the investigation, you've also taken "I think" as an official statement of confirmation. chaosbowser posted... Also he didn't say he thinks. He said it seems to now be a criminal investigation because they're not able to review witnesses like they were before. Not that i'm surprised you misheard because you've closed your mind off to any real possibility that this shit is actually going somewhere. Even if you were right, that's STILL not an official statement. That STILL indicates his personal perception in a non-capacity role. chaosbowser posted... update: It's to my understanding that Rosenstein isn't the one who decides whether this is a criminal investigation anymore. This is all Mueller's game now. And Mueller at the time was recorded as saying that it wasn't a criminal investigation. So, unless Lindsay Graham knows more than the guy running the investigation, that's the final word. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| In Zeus We Trust: All Others Pay Cash <cite>Zeus posted [p:879456895] in House majo... [t:75358034]...</cite> <quote><cite>chaosbowser posted...</cite> <quote>You realize your article is more dated than mine right? The only thing anyone is demonstrating is your own refusal to accept reality. Graham made that statement after a briefing yesterday and he's basically saying that because its a criminal investigation that congress can no longer hold hearings the way its been doing.</quote> You realize that you didn't even listen to what Graham said, right? So instead to relying on a secondary source NOT directly involved in the investigation, you've also taken "I think" as an official statement of confirmation. <cite>chaosbowser posted...</cite> <quote>Also he didn't say he thinks. He said it seems to now be a criminal investigation because they're not able to review witnesses like they were before. Not that i'm surprised you misheard because you've closed your mind off to any real possibility that this shit is actually going somewhere.</quote> Even if you were right, that's STILL not an official statement. That STILL indicates his personal perception in a non-capacity role. <cite>chaosbowser posted...</cite> <quote>update: It's to my understanding that Rosenstein isn't the one who decides whether this is a criminal investigation anymore. This is all Mueller's game now.</quote> And Mueller at the time was recorded as saying that it wasn't a criminal investigation. So, unless Lindsay Graham knows more than the guy running the investigation, that's the final word.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
chaosbowser 05/20/17 10:56:24 AM #64:	Zeus posted... You realize that you didn't even listen to what Graham said, right? So instead to relying on a secondary source NOT directly involved in the investigation, you've also taken "I think" as an official statement of confirmation Actually you're the one not listening to him. The whole point of his statement is that we won't be getting much in the way of official statements from this point forward. Your denial though is outstanding. Zeus posted... Even if you were right, that's STILL not an official statement. That STILL indicates his personal perception in a non-capacity role. Graham is part of the congressional counter-intelligence investigation committee and more so he's a republican. It wouldn't be in his interest to make such a grave statement without him being pretty certain that it is true. Zeus posted... And Mueller at the time was recorded as saying that it wasn't a criminal investigation. So, unless Lindsay Graham knows more than the guy running the investigation, that's the final word. He was debriefed that day by him... that's the point of me saying your article is outdated. Mueller also has no obligation to release any details to the public. He also is well within his power at this point to deny congress witnesses for their own investigation. You really are not as smart as you seem to purport you are. You are incapable of putting 2 and 2 together. --- I love people. I hate people. <cite>chaosbowser posted [p:879465594] in House majo... [t:75358034]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote> You realize that you didn't even listen to what Graham said, right? So instead to relying on a secondary source NOT directly involved in the investigation, you've also taken "I think" as an official statement of confirmation</quote> Actually you're the one not listening to him. The whole point of his statement is that we won't be getting much in the way of official statements from this point forward. Your denial though is outstanding. <cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote> Even if you were right, that's STILL not an official statement. That STILL indicates his personal perception in a non-capacity role. </quote> Graham is part of the congressional counter-intelligence investigation committee and more so he's a republican. It wouldn't be in his interest to make such a grave statement without him being pretty certain that it is true. <cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote> And Mueller at the time was recorded as saying that it wasn't a criminal investigation. So, unless Lindsay Graham knows more than the guy running the investigation, that's the final word.</quote> He was debriefed that day by him... that's the point of me saying your article is outdated. Mueller also has no obligation to release any details to the public. He also is well within his power at this point to deny congress witnesses for their own investigation. You really are not as smart as you seem to purport you are. You are incapable of putting 2 and 2 together.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doctor Foxx 05/22/17 9:55:40 PM #65:	2 plus 2 equals 5 jeez --- Never write off the Doctor! <cite>Doctor Foxx posted [p:879622117] in House majo... [t:75358034]...</cite> <quote>2 plus 2 equals 5 jeez</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blighboy 05/22/17 9:56:56 PM #66:	--- http://i.imgur.com/23FQqTl.gif <cite>Blighboy posted [p:879622224] in House majo... [t:75358034]...</cite> <quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SkynyrdRocker 05/22/17 9:58:25 PM #67:	I had a weird dream last night where one of my co-workers was a construction foreman or something and these hippies at a radio station were mad at him. <cite>SkynyrdRocker posted [p:879622325] in House majo... [t:75358034]...</cite> <quote>I had a weird dream last night where one of my co-workers was a construction foreman or something and these hippies at a radio station were mad at him.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
helIy 05/22/17 10:08:46 PM #68:	chaosbowser posted... helIy posted... chaosbowser posted... The fact of the matter is they targeted one party over the other did it ever occur to you that they did that because only one party was worth targeting? Did it ever occur to you that is highly unlikely? Honestly, the republican party has nothing of note to reveal to the public? really? literally all this shit about trump and Russia is highly unlikely --- Look in my eyes, and read between the lines I am, I am the headline <cite>helIy posted [p:879623006] in House majo... [t:75358034]...</cite> <quote><cite>chaosbowser posted...</cite> <quote><cite>helIy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>chaosbowser posted...</cite> <quote>The fact of the matter is they targeted one party over the other</quote> did it ever occur to you that they did that because only one party was worth targeting?</quote> Did it ever occur to you that is highly unlikely? Honestly, the republican party has nothing of note to reveal to the public? really?</quote> literally all this shit about trump and Russia is highly unlikely</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RCtheWSBC 05/22/17 10:12:56 PM #69:	Be careful with that word "literally", chum --- http://i.imgur.com/1yl1fH0.jpg the White-Sounding Black Chick <cite>RCtheWSBC posted [p:879623274] in House majo... [t:75358034]...</cite> <quote>Be careful with that word "literally", chum</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
chaosbowser 05/22/17 10:17:07 PM #70:	helIy posted... chaosbowser posted... helIy posted... chaosbowser posted... The fact of the matter is they targeted one party over the other did it ever occur to you that they did that because only one party was worth targeting? Did it ever occur to you that is highly unlikely? Honestly, the republican party has nothing of note to reveal to the public? really? literally all this shit about trump and Russia is highly unlikely At this point? Not really. It's possible the Trump is so stupid he doesn't know what's going on around him but his campaign certainly appears to be compromised by the Russians. --- I love people. I hate people. <cite>chaosbowser posted [p:879623525] in House majo... [t:75358034]...</cite> <quote><cite>helIy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>chaosbowser posted...</cite> <quote><cite>helIy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>chaosbowser posted...</cite> <quote>The fact of the matter is they targeted one party over the other</quote> did it ever occur to you that they did that because only one party was worth targeting?</quote> Did it ever occur to you that is highly unlikely? Honestly, the republican party has nothing of note to reveal to the public? really?</quote> literally all this shit about trump and Russia is highly unlikely</quote> At this point? Not really. It's possible the Trump is so stupid he doesn't know what's going on around him but his campaign certainly appears to be compromised by the Russians.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
helIy 05/22/17 10:46:04 PM #71:	lul you think trump is just bumbling about? if that were the case, every investigation into him would have turned up something the dude is absolutely not stupid, and the fact that if there really is something there to find, and it hasn't been found yet? that screams that he knows what he's doing. --- Look in my eyes, and read between the lines I am, I am the headline <cite>helIy posted [p:879625383] in House majo... [t:75358034]...</cite> <quote>lul you think trump is just bumbling about? if that were the case, every investigation into him would have turned up something the dude is absolutely not stupid, and the fact that if there really is something there to find, and it hasn't been found yet? that screams that he knows what he's doing.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RCtheWSBC 05/22/17 10:48:11 PM #72:	helIy posted... if that were the case, every investigation into him would have turned up something investigations take time, coordination, and financial resources they are ongoing and involve multiple individuals and organizations Watergate took two years to unfurl --- http://i.imgur.com/1yl1fH0.jpg the White-Sounding Black Chick <cite>RCtheWSBC posted [p:879625514] in House majo... [t:75358034]...</cite> <quote><cite>helIy posted...</cite> <quote>if that were the case, every investigation into him would have turned up something</quote> investigations take time, coordination, and financial resources they are ongoing and involve multiple individuals and organizations Watergate took two years to unfurl</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blighboy 05/22/17 10:49:12 PM #73:	RCtheWSBC posted... Watergate took two years to unfurl Maybe Nixon didn't do anything wrong until two years into the investigation. --- http://i.imgur.com/ht0NzVl.gif <cite>Blighboy posted [p:879625586] in House majo... [t:75358034]...</cite> <quote><cite>RCtheWSBC posted...</cite> <quote>Watergate took two years to unfurl</quote> Maybe Nixon didn't do anything wrong until two years into the investigation.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
chaosbowser 05/22/17 10:49:44 PM #74:	helIy posted... lul you think trump is just bumbling about? if that were the case, every investigation into him would have turned up something the dude is absolutely not stupid, and the fact that if there really is something there to find, and it hasn't been found yet? that screams that he knows what he's doing. It more than likely shows that Russia knows what its doing. All the leaks are on his end with his people. --- I love people. I hate people. <cite>chaosbowser posted [p:879625627] in House majo... [t:75358034]...</cite> <quote><cite>helIy posted...</cite> <quote>lul you think trump is just bumbling about? if that were the case, every investigation into him would have turned up something the dude is absolutely not stupid, and the fact that if there really is something there to find, and it hasn't been found yet? that screams that he knows what he's doing.</quote> It more than likely shows that Russia knows what its doing. All the leaks are on his end with his people.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RCtheWSBC 05/22/17 10:50:03 PM #75:	Blighboy posted... Legit goes to show that the more things change, the more they stay the same --- http://i.imgur.com/1yl1fH0.jpg the White-Sounding Black Chick <cite>RCtheWSBC posted [p:879625647] in House majo... [t:75358034]...</cite> <quote><cite>Blighboy posted...</cite> <quote></quote> Legit goes to show that the more things change, the more they stay the same</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
helIy 05/22/17 10:50:34 PM #76:	yeah, but watergate was also back in the 70s. technology has evolved tenfold since then and he's been under investigation since he announced he was running, pretty much. there's all these places going "WE GOT PROOF HES UP TO SOME SHIT" and it's...nothing. it's hearsay, rumors, and always leads to nothing. look, i liked him at first, but now he's actually doing shitty shit and i'd love to see him, and pence, get the boot, but come on. all these rumors are just pointless. --- Look in my eyes, and read between the lines I am, I am the headline <cite>helIy posted [p:879625674] in House majo... [t:75358034]...</cite> <quote>yeah, but watergate was also back in the 70s. technology has evolved tenfold since then and he's been under investigation since he announced he was running, pretty much. there's all these places going "WE GOT PROOF HES UP TO SOME SHIT" and it's...nothing. it's hearsay, rumors, and always leads to nothing. look, i liked him at first, but now he's actually doing shitty shit and i'd love to see him, and pence, get the boot, but come on. all these rumors are just pointless.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
chaosbowser 05/22/17 10:52:35 PM #77:	helIy posted... yeah, but watergate was also back in the 70s. technology has evolved tenfold since then and he's been under investigation since he announced he was running, pretty much. there's all these places going "WE GOT PROOF HES UP TO SOME SHIT" and it's...nothing. it's hearsay, rumors, and always leads to nothing. look, i liked him at first, but now he's actually doing shitty shit and i'd love to see him, and pence, get the boot, but come on. all these rumors are just pointless. I'm pretty sure they do have things. Sally Yates was talking about definitive proof that Michael Flynn was being blackmailed by Russians. Its just all classified. --- I love people. I hate people. <cite>chaosbowser posted [p:879625786] in House majo... [t:75358034]...</cite> <quote><cite>helIy posted...</cite> <quote>yeah, but watergate was also back in the 70s. technology has evolved tenfold since then and he's been under investigation since he announced he was running, pretty much. there's all these places going "WE GOT PROOF HES UP TO SOME SHIT" and it's...nothing. it's hearsay, rumors, and always leads to nothing. look, i liked him at first, but now he's actually doing shitty shit and i'd love to see him, and pence, get the boot, but come on. all these rumors are just pointless.</quote> I'm pretty sure they do have things. Sally Yates was talking about definitive proof that Michael Flynn was being blackmailed by Russians. Its just all classified.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RCtheWSBC 05/22/17 10:53:02 PM #78:	The many organizations conducting these ongoing investigations are not going to release every tidbit of information they have acquired to the press. They are still in the process of acquiring documents and testimonies. I can resonate with media networks currently jumping to publish every "report" they come across but that does not negate the heavier revelations that have come out of the past 2 weeks that the administration has in some way acknowledged. Flynn is pleading the fifth and refusing to comply with a Senate subpoena. We can't ignore that shit. --- http://i.imgur.com/1yl1fH0.jpg the White-Sounding Black Chick <cite>RCtheWSBC posted [p:879625818] in House majo... [t:75358034]...</cite> <quote>The many organizations conducting these ongoing investigations are not going to release every tidbit of information they have acquired to the press. They are still in the process of acquiring documents and testimonies. I can resonate with media networks currently jumping to publish every "report" they come across but that does not negate the heavier revelations that have come out of the past 2 weeks that the administration has in some way acknowledged. Flynn is pleading the fifth and refusing to comply with a Senate subpoena. We can't ignore that shit.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blighboy 05/22/17 10:53:33 PM #79:	RCtheWSBC posted... We can't ignore that shit. lol half of us already are. Catch up sweetie. --- http://i.imgur.com/86WNvLI.png <cite>Blighboy posted [p:879625851] in House majo... [t:75358034]...</cite> <quote><cite>RCtheWSBC posted...</cite> <quote>We can't ignore that shit.</quote> lol half of us already are. Catch up sweetie.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RCtheWSBC 05/22/17 10:54:11 PM #80:	Blighboy honey stop playing games, I speak your language --- http://i.imgur.com/1yl1fH0.jpg the White-Sounding Black Chick <cite>RCtheWSBC posted [p:879625886] in House majo... [t:75358034]...</cite> <quote>Blighboy honey stop playing games, I speak your language</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
chaosbowser 05/22/17 10:56:37 PM #81:	RCtheWSBC posted... We can't ignore that shit. Its pretty funny too.One of the people on the committee said there's no reason for him to plead the fifth since all that's being requested is documents. --- I love people. I hate people. <cite>chaosbowser posted [p:879626058] in House majo... [t:75358034]...</cite> <quote><cite>RCtheWSBC posted...</cite> <quote> We can't ignore that shit. </quote> Its pretty funny too.One of the people on the committee said there's no reason for him to plead the fifth since all that's being requested is documents.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RCtheWSBC 05/22/17 10:59:31 PM #82:	IMO everyone should be supporting a thorough (which will mean lengthy) investigation by the appointed special counsel. I'm not going to say there's literally nothing amiss with what we do know, but I'm also not going to say that everyone in the White House needs to be impeached and imprisoned. We all are at a loss of the potential depth and breadth of these allegations and we all deserve to discover the totality of the truth. --- http://i.imgur.com/1yl1fH0.jpg the White-Sounding Black Chick <cite>RCtheWSBC posted [p:879626236] in House majo... [t:75358034]...</cite> <quote>IMO everyone should be supporting a thorough (which will mean lengthy) investigation by the appointed special counsel. I'm not going to say there's literally nothing amiss with what we do know, but I'm also not going to say that everyone in the White House needs to be impeached and imprisoned. We all are at a loss of the potential depth and breadth of these allegations and we all deserve to discover the totality of the truth.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 05/22/17 11:02:52 PM #83:	chaosbowser posted... Actually you're the one not listening to him. The whole point of his statement is that we won't be getting much in the way of official statements from this point forward. Your denial though is outstanding. You're neither listening to him nor getting it. Graham was clearly commenting as a layperson. More importantly, you're forgetting that Graham was one of Trump's most vehement opponents and, even after everybody else fell in line, he still insisted he wouldn't vote for Trump. chaosbowser posted... Graham is part of the congressional counter-intelligence investigation committee and more so he's a republican. It wouldn't be in his interest to make such a grave statement without him being pretty certain that it is true. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gang_of_Eight_(intelligence) Nope, his name isn't on there! More importantly, while you claim that he's a Republican, you forget that he's one of Trump's enemies. The latter part is more important than the first. Keep in mind that this is a guy whose hatred was so intense that, even after Trump secured the party nomination, Graham insisted he wouldn't vote for him. Countless other Republicans who didn't like Trump stayed loyal to the party and voted anyway, but not Graham. chaosbowser posted... He was debriefed that day by him... that's the point of me saying your article is outdated. Mueller also has no obligation to release any details to the public. He also is well within his power at this point to deny congress witnesses for their own investigation. You really are not as smart as you seem to purport you are. You are incapable of putting 2 and 2 together. Says the guy insisting that an unsure SECONDARY source is more definitive than a primary source. The fact remains that not only is Graham NOT in a position to make that statement on behalf of somebody else, he did NOT actually make that statement at all. He gave his opinion and didn't seem certain about that. As for the issue of intelligence, I fear I greatly overestimated yours. chaosbowser posted... but his campaign certainly appears to be compromised by the Russians. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_n5E7feJHw0 RCtheWSBC posted... helIy posted... if that were the case, every investigation into him would have turned up something investigations take time, coordination, and financial resources they are ongoing and involve multiple individuals and organizations Watergate took two years to unfurl When every lead you already looked into has been cleared, it's usually a sign that there's nothing there. However, when you're desperate to unseat somebody, you'll try anything. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| In Zeus We Trust: All Others Pay Cash <cite>Zeus posted [p:879626441] in House majo... [t:75358034]...</cite> <quote><cite>chaosbowser posted...</cite> <quote>Actually you're the one not listening to him. The whole point of his statement is that we won't be getting much in the way of official statements from this point forward. Your denial though is outstanding. </quote> You're neither listening to him nor getting it. Graham was clearly commenting as a layperson. More importantly, you're forgetting that Graham was one of Trump's most vehement opponents and, even after everybody else fell in line, he still insisted he wouldn't vote for Trump. <cite>chaosbowser posted...</cite> <quote>Graham is part of the congressional counter-intelligence investigation committee and more so he's a republican. It wouldn't be in his interest to make such a grave statement without him being pretty certain that it is true. </quote> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gang_of_Eight_(intelligence) Nope, his name isn't on there! More importantly, while you claim that he's a Republican, you forget that he's one of Trump's enemies. The latter part is more important than the first. Keep in mind that this is a guy whose hatred was so intense that, even after Trump secured the party nomination, Graham insisted he wouldn't vote for him. Countless other Republicans who didn't like Trump stayed loyal to the party and voted anyway, but not Graham. <cite>chaosbowser posted...</cite> <quote>He was debriefed that day by him... that's the point of me saying your article is outdated. Mueller also has no obligation to release any details to the public. He also is well within his power at this point to deny congress witnesses for their own investigation. You really are not as smart as you seem to purport you are. You are incapable of putting 2 and 2 together.</quote> Says the guy insisting that an unsure SECONDARY source is more definitive than a primary source. The fact remains that not only is Graham NOT in a position to make that statement on behalf of somebody else, he did NOT actually make that statement at all. He gave his opinion and didn't seem certain about that. As for the issue of intelligence, I fear I greatly overestimated yours. <cite>chaosbowser posted...</cite> <quote>but his campaign certainly appears to be compromised by the Russians.</quote> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_n5E7feJHw0 <cite>RCtheWSBC posted...</cite> <quote><cite>helIy posted...</cite> <quote>if that were the case, every investigation into him would have turned up something</quote> investigations take time, coordination, and financial resources they are ongoing and involve multiple individuals and organizations Watergate took two years to unfurl</quote> When every lead you already looked into has been cleared, it's usually a sign that there's nothing there. However, when you're desperate to unseat somebody, you'll try anything.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RCtheWSBC 05/22/17 11:03:58 PM #84:	Zeus posted... When every lead you already looked into has been cleared We have no idea if that's true or not at the current stages of the investigations. --- http://i.imgur.com/1yl1fH0.jpg the White-Sounding Black Chick <cite>RCtheWSBC posted [p:879626499] in House majo... [t:75358034]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote>When every lead you already looked into has been cleared</quote> We have no idea if that's true or not at the current stages of the investigations.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
chaosbowser 05/22/17 11:24:17 PM #85:	Zeus posted... You're neither listening to him nor getting it. Graham was clearly commenting as a layperson. More importantly, you're forgetting that Graham was one of Trump's most vehement opponents and, even after everybody else fell in line, he still insisted he wouldn't vote for Trump. Where do you pull this bullshit from? You have no reason to come to that sort of conclusion. Zeus posted... Nope, his name isn't on there! More importantly, while you claim that he's a Republican, you forget that he's one of Trump's enemies. Ah yes i forgot who i was talking to. You have to have everything spelled out in exquisite detail and you're incapable of making inferences. He takes part in the congressional hearings in regard to this collusion issue. Whatever the name of the committee that has been holding these hearings is he's on it. At least i presume that its a committee since i don't see all of congress attending them. Zeus posted... Says the guy insisting that an unsure SECONDARY source is more definitive than a primary source. The fact remains that not only is Graham NOT in a position to make that statement on behalf of somebody else, he did NOT actually make that statement at all. He gave his opinion and didn't seem certain about that. As for the issue of intelligence, I fear I greatly overestimated yours. You greatly overestimate your own intelligence. Just because we didn't talk down to you in baby talk causing shit to go right over your head doesn't make us idiots. Also, I'd like to point out that his statement has been taken as definitive by the media at this point. Yet, for something you believe to be so clearly wrong and not within Graham's place to be making a statement on we sure haven't had anyone try to correct him in the several days since he made the statement. --- I love people. I hate people. <cite>chaosbowser posted [p:879627598] in House majo... [t:75358034]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote>You're neither listening to him nor getting it. Graham was clearly commenting as a layperson. More importantly, you're forgetting that Graham was one of Trump's most vehement opponents and, even after everybody else fell in line, he still insisted he wouldn't vote for Trump. </quote> Where do you pull this bullshit from? You have no reason to come to that sort of conclusion. <cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote>Nope, his name isn't on there! More importantly, while you claim that he's a Republican, you forget that he's one of Trump's enemies. </quote> Ah yes i forgot who i was talking to. You have to have everything spelled out in exquisite detail and you're incapable of making inferences. He takes part in the congressional hearings in regard to this collusion issue. Whatever the name of the committee that has been holding these hearings is he's on it. At least i presume that its a committee since i don't see all of congress attending them. <cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote>Says the guy insisting that an unsure SECONDARY source is more definitive than a primary source. The fact remains that not only is Graham NOT in a position to make that statement on behalf of somebody else, he did NOT actually make that statement at all. He gave his opinion and didn't seem certain about that. As for the issue of intelligence, I fear I greatly overestimated yours.</quote> You greatly overestimate your own intelligence. Just because we didn't talk down to you in baby talk causing shit to go right over your head doesn't make us idiots. Also, I'd like to point out that his statement has been taken as definitive by the media at this point. Yet, for something you believe to be so clearly wrong and not within Graham's place to be making a statement on we sure haven't had anyone try to correct him in the several days since he made the statement.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Melon_Master 05/22/17 11:26:19 PM #86:	Zeus posted... When every lead you already looked into has been cleared https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_n5E7feJHw0 --- http://i.imgur.com/linui.png http://i.imgur.com/FiYI1.jpg PotDs UnOfficial President and Official Sheldon Cooper <cite>Melon_Master posted [p:879627715] in House majo... [t:75358034]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote>When every lead you already looked into has been cleared</quote> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_n5E7feJHw0</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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