Current Events > Who is the worst not currently serving president in history?

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MrZAP17
05/20/17 8:22:08 AM
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Disqualifying Trump from the running because I want some actual thought behind answers instead of knee-jerk one-word posts.

I'd personally go with Jackson. He's generally thought of as a strong president, but... I mean, he committed genocide. If you commit genocide, then I think that automatically makes you the worst.

Other strong contenders are Johnson 1 and Harding.
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The Admiral
05/20/17 8:34:21 AM
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Jackson is objectively a top 10 president at worst. You guys need to cut it out with quasi-informed revisionist history.
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RchHomieQuanChi
05/20/17 8:36:18 AM
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Nixon is definitely up there
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Doom_Art
05/20/17 8:37:32 AM
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The Admiral posted...
Jackson is objectively a top 10 president

not much of a surprise that Addy likes Jackson



Anyway, I'd concur with TC. Jackson, Buchanan, Harding are the immediate ones that come to mind.
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The Admiral
05/20/17 8:41:52 AM
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Doom_Art posted...
The Admiral posted...
Jackson is objectively a top 10 president

not much of a surprise that Addy likes Jackson


Liking him and recognizing his accompishments as president are two different things. My opinions are shared by the majority of credible historians. Yours are shared by ignorant SJWs and the victim politics folks who still have PTSD from being so wrong about Hillary.
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DifferentialEquation
05/20/17 8:42:37 AM
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Obama
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Doom_Art
05/20/17 8:42:37 AM
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guys i think addy is upset
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JSancton
05/20/17 8:44:37 AM
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RchHomieQuanChi posted...
Nixon is definitely up there


Ya ya ya bc he was impeached right? Nixon is arguably one of the greatest presidents to ever hold office. The man opened relations with China and changed the world with trade deals and influx spending on scientific research.
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FaytlessHearts
05/20/17 8:44:49 AM
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DifferentialEquation posted...
Obama

Setting race relations back decades. And the most money spent on vacations, or apologizing for events in ww2 lol.
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RchHomieQuanChi
05/20/17 8:47:34 AM
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Is Admiral Broly from DBZ and "liberal" is just his trigger word?
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Kineth
05/20/17 8:48:51 AM
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Harding or Coolidge.
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Doom_Art
05/20/17 8:49:33 AM
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FaytlessHearts posted...
And the most money spent on vacations

u serious mate

this is a road you're going down? ha ha
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Nomadic View
05/20/17 8:51:48 AM
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Obama

The guy increased the national debt more than all other past presidents combined. He poured gasoline on race relations and spear headed the socialism movement and the rise of the SJWs. It's because of these backwards entitled ideologies that Americans pushed back with such an authorative force. His horseshit is why we Americans elected Trump. The people went too far in the opposite direction.
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The Admiral
05/20/17 8:52:49 AM
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The stretch of presidents from Taylor to Buchanan were terrible. Probably the worst run in US history.

In modern times, Nixon, Carter, and Bush Jr.
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Doom_Art
05/20/17 8:53:01 AM
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Nomadic View posted...
His horseshit is why we Americans elected Trump.

Americans elected Trump because of themselves

don't try to shift responsibility like that
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FaytlessHearts
05/20/17 8:53:19 AM
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Doom_Art posted...
FaytlessHearts posted...
And the most money spent on vacations

u serious mate

this is a road you're going down? ha ha

96 million over 8 years. That's the most, currently, from any previous sitting president is it not? Trump might be on track to beat that, but I'm pretty sure the topic title says "not currently serving "
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The Admiral
05/20/17 8:54:32 AM
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Doom_Art posted...
Nomadic View posted...
His horseshit is why we Americans elected Trump.

Americans elected Trump because of themselves

don't try to shift responsibility like that


Many Americans vote for Trump because of people exactly like you. You were making daily topics calling anyone who thought Trump would win an idiot. Never seen anyone as humiliated as you who learned absolutely nothing from their failure.
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Kineth
05/20/17 8:54:38 AM
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Pretty sad that people might actually believe that Obama is responsible for race relations deteriorating, if they've deteriorated at all.
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MrZAP17
05/20/17 8:54:53 AM
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JSancton posted...
RchHomieQuanChi posted...
Nixon is definitely up there


Ya ya ya bc he was impeached right? Nixon is arguably one of the greatest presidents to ever hold office. The man opened relations with China and changed the world with trade deals and influx spending on scientific research.

He wasn't impeached. He resigned before it could happen.

Nixon also has the issue of exploitng the crisis in SE Asia for political gain (though this isn't exactly unusual, as we have seen). He also started the War on Drugs.
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1NfamousACE_2
05/20/17 8:56:15 AM
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MrZAP17 posted...

He wasn't impeached. He resigned before it could happen.


lol...thats where we're going?
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Doom_Art
05/20/17 8:56:22 AM
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The Admiral posted...
Many Americans vote for Trump because of people exactly like you.

They voted for him because they liked the idiot babble he was selling them.

No one forced them to do shit
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Nomadic View
05/20/17 8:57:27 AM
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Nixon is the best president.

Nixon froze the draft which kept my dad out of Vietnam, and because he was kept out of Vietnam it allowed me to come into existence.

Nixon is a fantastic president. If he were alive I'd vote for him today.
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Chicken
05/20/17 8:57:33 AM
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Obama is responsible for the most deaths of innocent people compared to any other president.
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MrZAP17
05/20/17 8:57:54 AM
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1NfamousACE_2 posted...
MrZAP17 posted...

He wasn't impeached. He resigned before it could happen.


lol...thats where we're going?

I mean, it's true. He was definitely on the road to being impeached, and there's little doubt it would have happened if he hadn't moved first.
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The Admiral
05/20/17 8:59:32 AM
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Chicken posted...
Obama is responsible for the most deaths of innocent people compared to any other president.


Obama also deported more illegals than any president before him, but I seldom see him criticized for that by the folks who are so passionate about immigration since Trump took office.
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Doom_Art
05/20/17 8:59:45 AM
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Nomadic View posted...
Nixon is the best president.

Nixon froze the draft which kept my dad out of Vietnam, and because he was kept out of Vietnam it allowed me to come into existence.

Nixon is a fantastic president. If he were alive I'd vote for him today.

Nixon also purposely prolonged Vietnam for political purposes

so you know

the good and bad i guess
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muchdran
05/20/17 9:01:09 AM
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Obama
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Kineth
05/20/17 9:02:03 AM
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Oh boy, turning this topic into whining about Obama. What will conservatives think of next?
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MrZAP17
05/20/17 9:02:23 AM
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The Admiral posted...
The stretch of presidents from Taylor to Buchanan were terrible. Probably the worst run in US history.

In modern times, Nixon, Carter, and Bush Jr.

I at least have to admire Polk's competence. The Mexican-American War was unjust and unfair (though I have mixed feelings for it being a white guy raised in California), but the way he handled it and basically everything else is pretty impressive. A top 10 president in terms of competence if not policy.

Chicken posted...
Obama is responsible for the most deaths of innocent people compared to any other president.


Obama also deported more illegals than any president before him, but I seldom see him criticized for that by the folks who are so passionate about immigration since Trump took office.

Plenty of people on the left actually have given Obama flak for that. You may not notice it if you're not following those conversations.
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1NfamousACE_2
05/20/17 9:03:05 AM
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Kineth posted...
Oh boy, turning this topic into whining about Obama. What will conservatives think of next?


They'll say something about Hillary
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Doom_Art
05/20/17 9:07:24 AM
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MrZAP17 posted...
Plenty of people on the left actually have given Obama flak for that. You may not notice it if you're not following those conversations.

Hell I don't even mind deporting illegals really, so long as we treat people fairly and humanely (ie. not siccing feds on schoolkids while they're at school, and not cramming people into detention centers)

I just despise idiotic "solutions" like Trump's wall.
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Lonestar2000
05/20/17 9:11:46 AM
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Chicken posted...
Obama is responsible for the most deaths of innocent people compared to any other president.

Nope, Bush's invasion and occupation of Iraq killed more.
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