Current Events > why are people against a pause button for the Souls series?

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Come to a compromise. Pause offline. No pause online. I couldn't care less either way
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what if you have to poop

Because the series isn't about taking your time and relaxing. It's to challenge you, make you think, learn, be reactionary. You learn your lessons from dying and running back, learning how enemies fight

what does this have to do with pausing

like is someone gonna pause/unpause repeatedly super fast so it looks like everything is in slow motion?

MegaTech posted...

Come to a compromise. Pause offline. No pause online. I couldn't care less either way

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But what if you just want to get a snack, or the phone rings?
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it's an egregious example of artificial difficulty

FrenchCrunch posted...

Because the series isn't about taking your time and relaxing. It's to challenge you, make you think, learn, be reactionary. You learn your lessons from dying and running back, learning how enemies fight

what does this have to do with pausing

like is someone gonna pause/unpause repeatedly super fast so it looks like everything is in slow motion?

this is just shit that nerds say to justify poor design
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eston posted...

But what if you just want to get a snack, or the phone rings?

Or, purely hypothetically, your cat is on the dining room table knocking shit off like an idiot?
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AlternativeFAQS posted...

what if you have to poop

Quit to main menu. You will literally be standing in the same spot when you load.
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Quit to main menu. You will literally be standing in the same spot when you load.

if it's the same thing except with less loading

why are people against adding it

Maybe this is the kind of thing you can't understand wothout playing the games but why not just, you know, not use it?

I've played lots of hard games and only a few times been tempted to pause spam. And at that, I've only ever done it for S ranks and such because you don't need it otherwise.
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Antifar posted...

eston posted...

But what if you just want to get a snack, or the phone rings?

Or, purely hypothetically, your cat is on the dining room table knocking shit off like an idiot?

this is oddly specific

Maybe this is the kind of thing you can't understand wothout playing the games but why not just, you know, not use it?

I've played lots of hard games and only a few times been tempted to pause spam. And at that, I've only ever done it for S ranks and such because you don't need it otherwise.

holy shit i was joking when i said the pause/unpause thing. not only does it exist but it has a name? lmao

also ive played demons and dark 1-3 and idk why there isnt a pause

Evidently, the series was not made for anyone who has any social connections outside of their parents' basement.
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It's built around being played online and a pause function doesn't work out with online.

Making it available offline might encourage players to stay offline, depriving them of the experiences of messages, summons, invasions, etc.

souls fans are the dumbest motherfuckers on the planet TC

you cant expect most of them to grasp complicated concepts like "pausing"
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Edgemaster97 posted...

Evidently, the series was not made for anyone who has any social connections outside of their parents' basement.

Stand somewhere where there are no enemies. Congrats. Paused.
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souls fans are the dumbest motherfuckers on the planet TC

im a souls fan

FrenchCrunch posted...

Quit to main menu. You will literally be standing in the same spot when you load.

if it's the same thing except with less loading

why are people against adding it

Because you can't pause an online game.
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FrenchCrunch posted...

souls fans are the dumbest motherfuckers on the planet TC

im a souls fan

you played yourself
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while I don't really have a problem with a pause button existing or not, death is hardly a big deal in those games
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you played yourself

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An individual encounter in Souls games rarely last longer than 20 seconds. If you need to stop playing for a bit then just finish killing whatever enemy you're hitting and then run behind a wall and you're good.
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Pausing offline wouldn't work because in theory the game is always online all the time. Because you could be invaded or summon or whatever. There is an offline mode but that gives an unfair advantage, you'd have people playing offline because they want to be able to pause, meaning less players online at any given time.

Also not having a pause button contributes to the feeling of never being completely safe.Just quit to the main menu or something if you have to.
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Maybe this is the kind of thing you can't understand wothout playing the games but why not just, you know, not use it?

I've played lots of hard games and only a few times been tempted to pause spam. And at that, I've only ever done it for S ranks and such because you don't need it otherwise.

holy s*** i was joking when i said the pause/unpause thing. not only does it exist but it has a name? lmao

also ive played demons and dark 1-3 and idk why there isnt a pause

They actually used to make controllers that would do it for you.

http://www.consolemate.com.au/v/vspfiles/photos/GCCTRLB-2.jpg

When you push the slow button, it would basically just spam pause until you pushed it again.

It didn't work very well for games of the GameCube generation, though, as those tended to have more complex pause menus than in some earlier generations, which is probably why they stopped making them. I had one because it was the only cube controller I could find without ordering online once when we had a bunch of friends over in college and wanted to play Smash Bros.

I only tried it a few times for the novelty of it. It actually really sucked trying to play a game that way.

But that's not the kind of pause spam I was talking about. I meant when I said pause spamming was in Mega Man Battle Network, trying to S-Rank Bomb Man when he throws a trillion bombs at once, you could pause and tske a second to figure out which bombs were about to explode where so you could actually dodge them. Getting hit once in that fight screwed you out of the S-Rank and the screen pretty much turned into an unreadable mess with the sheer quantity of bombs he threw at once.

Only other time was trying to S-Rank Leo in Mega Man Star Force, for pretty much the same reason. Turns ot the real key was actually to use the rainy cards instead of to focus quote so much on dodging, so it didn't actually end up helping that much.
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a. Kill enemy and then remain where you're standing

b. Take a few seconds to retreat to a previous area where you killed enemies and remain where you're now standing

c. Take <2 seconds to exit back to main menu and then deal with a few more seconds to reload whenever you get done with what you needed to pause for

d. Play a different game and stop whining

Seems easy enough for me. The game is meant to be played online even if there is an offline option.
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Kuuko posted...

An individual encounter in Souls games rarely last longer than 20 seconds. If you need to stop playing for a bit then just finish killing whatever enemy you're hitting and then run behind a wall and you're good.

Stalolin posted...

Also not having a pause button contributes to the feeling of never being completely safe.

lmao the shit people will say to justify poor game design
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Because if it had pause or dare I say an easy mode then that would make fans of the series feel less hardcore even though it literally would have zero effect on them as players.
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do enemies respawn in these games?

a. Kill enemy and then remain where you're standing

b. Take a few seconds to retreat to a previous area where you killed enemies and remain where you're now standing

c. Take <2 seconds to exit back to main menu and then deal with a few more seconds to reload whenever you get done with what you needed to pause

d. Play a different game and stop whining

Seems easy enough for me. The game is meant to be played online even if there is an offline option.

or alternatively

press start

green butter posted...

Kuuko posted...

An individual encounter in Souls games rarely last longer than 20 seconds. If you need to stop playing for a bit then just finish killing whatever enemy you're hitting and then run behind a wall and you're good.

Stalolin posted...

Also not having a pause button contributes to the feeling of never being completely safe.

lmao the shit people will say to justify poor game design

It's not poor game design, keep being mad haha. But it's no big deal, different strokes I guess. No one is forcing you to play or like the series.
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FrenchCrunch posted...

or alternatively

press start

Oh 2clever4me didn't see this response coming at all CE

Also revisit option d
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Stalolin posted...

green butter posted...

Kuuko posted...

An individual encounter in Souls games rarely last longer than 20 seconds. If you need to stop playing for a bit then just finish killing whatever enemy you're hitting and then run behind a wall and you're good.

Stalolin posted...

Also not having a pause button contributes to the feeling of never being completely safe.

lmao the shit people will say to justify poor game design

It's not poor game design, keep being mad haha. But it's no big deal, different strokes I guess. No one is forcing you to play or like the series.

lol

i bet Bloodborne 2 will have a feature like where you can't charge the controller while you play the game, and fans will defend it. "durrr it adds to the intensity of the game, knowing your controller can die at any time! if you just keep your controller charged before you play the game, there is no problem! git gud!"
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green butter posted...

Stalolin posted...

green butter posted...

Kuuko posted...

An individual encounter in Souls games rarely last longer than 20 seconds. If you need to stop playing for a bit then just finish killing whatever enemy you're hitting and then run behind a wall and you're good.

Stalolin posted...

Also not having a pause button contributes to the feeling of never being completely safe.

lmao the shit people will say to justify poor game design

It's not poor game design, keep being mad haha. But it's no big deal, different strokes I guess. No one is forcing you to play or like the series.

lol

i bet Bloodborne 2 will have a feature like where you can't charge the controller while you play the game, and fans will defend it. "durrr it adds to the intensity of the game, knowing your controller can die at any time! if you just keep your controller charged before you play the game, there is no problem! git gud!"

Okay lol
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the souls series fans are amazing, they will justify and defend anything no matter how stupid
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drunkmuggle posted...

the souls series fans are amazing, they will justify and defend anything no matter how stupid

Ain't no defending Lost Izalith.
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Stalolin posted...

drunkmuggle posted...

the souls series fans are amazing, they will justify and defend anything no matter how stupid

Ain't no defending Lost Izalith.

or Shrine of Amana
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green butter posted...

Stalolin posted...

drunkmuggle posted...

the souls series fans are amazing, they will justify and defend anything no matter how stupid

Ain't no defending Lost Izalith.

or Shrine of Amana

Dark Soul 2 don't count everyone knows that.
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AlternativeFAQS posted...

do enemies respawn in these games?

Yes.

DS2 is the only one that lets you make them stop respawning, but only if you kill the same enemies like 15 times.

Vertania posted...

AlternativeFAQS posted...

do enemies respawn in these games?

Yes.

DS2 is the only one that lets you make them stop respawning, but only if you kill the same enemies like 15 times.

They don't respawn if you don't reload though. Someone could kill an enemy and stand there for 6 hours if they had to go.
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hockeybub89 posted...

They don't respawn if you don't reload though. Someone could kill an enemy and stand there for 6 hours if they had to go.

True. Another reason why pausing isn't really necessary.

There are very, very few areas where the do respawn though, but the player would be dumb to stand still there anyway. I'm thinking of the mosquito things in Blighttown and the rats during a DS2 boss fight.

bumop

I can't believe this topic is still being made and still getting posts.
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You don't need a pause button. You just run back to the bonfire (without resting at it) assuming you've cleared the way and didn't just blast through everything.

You also just don't start a bonfire run when you're expecting to have obligations within the next 15 to 30 minutes.

A pause function is unnecessary. All it does is give the player too much freedom for what it's worth.
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Third post summed it up. Difficulty is the selling point of the franchise. A pause function detracts from that.
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UnholyMudcrab posted...

I can't believe this topic is still being made and still getting posts.

souls fans are one of the easiest fanbases to troll to be fair
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eston posted...

But what if you just want to get a snack, or the phone rings?

] Antifar posted...

eston posted...

But what if you just want to get a snack, or the phone rings?

Or, purely hypothetically, your cat is on the dining room table knocking shit off like an idiot?

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