Board 8 > Tales of Berseria is pretty great

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KamikazePotato
05/26/17 1:12:02 PM
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35 or do hours in and unless it implodes from here on out it will easily be my favorite Tales game. Characters are strong. Battle system is jarring at first but gets really fun once you get the hang of it. Story is great, and I mean great in general, not just by Tales standards. Worst part is probably the music but it's not bad, just forgettable.

Shame that Zestiria poisoned the well and made it sell poorly!
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The Mana Sword
05/26/17 1:19:14 PM
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It drags a bit in the middle, but yeah it's v. good.
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BK_Sheikah00
05/26/17 1:19:43 PM
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It only gets better. Best kid party member ever.
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KamikazePotato
05/26/17 1:47:19 PM
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I'm in the middle parts I think, and while the pace is definitely slower compared to the beginning where stuff is constantly happening, it's still keeping up an alright pace.

And yeah, really good kid character. I really like the entire cast which is rare for me.
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Zigzagoon
05/26/17 1:53:16 PM
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Music is a huge thing for me so if it's kind of a miss, I'm probably not going to be that interested :(
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KamikazePotato
05/26/17 1:58:13 PM
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Music is a pretty big thing for me too and it doesn't bug me. It works well enough in-game, I probably just won't be listening to it much outside of the game.
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KommunistKoala
05/26/17 2:16:58 PM
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it's the only Tales game I could play longer than 30 seconds. great stuff. Velvet fantastic main character
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AfroSquirrel
05/26/17 2:22:41 PM
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Biggest flaw is attachment restrictions
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KamikazePotato
05/26/17 3:20:23 PM
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Velvet is my favorite main character in a long time.

I actually don't care about attachments. I find them more distracting than anything else. I still feel obligated to open those Katz chests though. I have a problem
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KamikazePotato
05/27/17 12:46:46 AM
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No one told me this game had a flying surfboard.
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NowItsAngeTime
05/27/17 12:56:55 AM
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KamikazePotato posted...
No one told me this game had a flying surfboard.


It sure does and it's pretty interesting

And glad you're enjoying it, I quite enjoyed the story and characters consistently as well
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LapisLazuli
05/27/17 1:09:59 AM
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It's the first truly great Tales game since Vesperia. Arguably the best one since Abyss.
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KamikazePotato
05/27/17 1:10:41 AM
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Enjoying it a lot!

One thing I will comment on is the battle system. It feels...I don't know, busted? Not necessarily in a bad way, just weird. Once you learn how to keep the pressure up, dodge/guard at the right times, and weave your moves together correctly you can murder the crap out of pretty much anything. I just got into a plot battle with an enemy twice my level and if the game hadn't taken me out of fight to do some cutscenes, I'm pretty sure I could have won. And I'm playing on Hard! It barely feels like an RPG battle system. Which is fine, I like action game and it's fun to DEVOUR enemies, just not what I expected.
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Shadow Dino
05/27/17 1:36:05 AM
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Velvet is stupidly overpowered. Insanely fun to play, but still broken beyond all belief.

Also fun: Mystic Arte chains. Just going crazy with MAs on bosses is awesome.
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KamikazePotato
05/27/17 1:57:56 AM
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Heh, figures it's a Velvet thing. That fits considering the story!

I do have one real complaint though: who in the world greenlit Bienfu's voice? Thank god you can skip specific lines without having to skip the whole scene.
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LapisLazuli
05/27/17 2:01:33 AM
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Bienfu is the biggest blight on the game.
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NowItsAngeTime
05/27/17 2:02:28 AM
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When is the talking mascot in Tales games ever not annoying?
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KamikazePotato
05/27/17 2:04:38 AM
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I've been okay with every mascot before this. Bienfu is just...why.

Also hahaha I'm the Calamity
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BK_Sheikah00
05/27/17 2:09:01 AM
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Bienfu >>>> Teepo and Mieu

Though that's mostly because of him being tied to the awesomeness that is Miss Magilou. The others have no such luck.
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LapisLazuli
05/27/17 2:13:21 AM
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No way does Bienfu get to crib off Magilou's greatness.
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Drakeryn
05/27/17 2:28:31 AM
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Bienfu is independently awesome

Magilou is more awesome, but really, that's a high bar for anyone
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KamikazePotato
05/27/17 2:36:47 AM
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I would be okay with Bienfu if he didn't have that voice. What even is that.

Magilou is probably my second-least favorite in the party, which is saying a lot because she's pretty great. She's had absolutely zero story relevance so far though, hoping that will change.
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LapisLazuli
05/27/17 2:48:20 AM
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i don't even wanna rank that cast.
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Corrik
05/27/17 2:53:10 AM
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KamikazePotato posted...
35 or do hours in and unless it implodes from here on out it will easily be my favorite Tales game. Characters are strong. Battle system is jarring at first but gets really fun once you get the hang of it. Story is great, and I mean great in general, not just by Tales standards. Worst part is probably the music but it's not bad, just forgettable.

Shame that Zestiria poisoned the well and made it sell poorly!

Better than Vesperia? I plan to get it this year for sure. Glad to hear it is good.
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Mac Arrowny
05/27/17 2:56:50 AM
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Hmm, is Bienfu's voice worse in the dub or something?
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NowItsAngeTime
05/27/17 2:58:00 AM
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Corrik posted...
KamikazePotato posted...
35 or do hours in and unless it implodes from here on out it will easily be my favorite Tales game. Characters are strong. Battle system is jarring at first but gets really fun once you get the hang of it. Story is great, and I mean great in general, not just by Tales standards. Worst part is probably the music but it's not bad, just forgettable.

Shame that Zestiria poisoned the well and made it sell poorly!

Better than Vesperia? I plan to get it this year for sure. Glad to hear it is good.


Unlike Vesperia it actually stays good towards the end
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LapisLazuli
05/27/17 2:59:48 AM
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Mac Arrowny posted...
Hmm, is Bienfu's voice worse in the dub or something?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHK3wGaHb8c


The rest of the cast is generally excellent, so....
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KamikazePotato
05/27/17 3:01:42 AM
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That's good to hear. My biggest issue with Vesperia is that the last 1/3 was more or less a complete waste of time.

And yeah, I love all the voice actors except for Bienfu. It's like he sucked out all their malevolence into himself, leaving everyone else with a great performance and him with...that.
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Corrik
05/27/17 3:01:57 AM
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NowItsAngeTime posted...
Corrik posted...
KamikazePotato posted...
35 or do hours in and unless it implodes from here on out it will easily be my favorite Tales game. Characters are strong. Battle system is jarring at first but gets really fun once you get the hang of it. Story is great, and I mean great in general, not just by Tales standards. Worst part is probably the music but it's not bad, just forgettable.

Shame that Zestiria poisoned the well and made it sell poorly!

Better than Vesperia? I plan to get it this year for sure. Glad to hear it is good.


Unlike Vesperia it actually stays good towards the end

I liked vesperia even at the end but that sounds encouraging. How is it in relation to Tales of Xillia? I believe @DoomTheGyarados was supremely a fan of xillia.
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Mac Arrowny
05/27/17 3:03:32 AM
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Haha what the heck is that
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KamikazePotato
05/27/17 3:03:33 AM
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I like Berseria a lot more than Xillia. Xillia wasn't bad, it just sort of lacked punch.
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BK_Sheikah00
05/27/17 3:10:32 AM
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I think the true blight on the english dub is Kamoana
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KamikazePotato
05/27/17 4:00:26 AM
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BK_Sheikah00 posted...
I think the true blight on the english dub is Kamoana

I think her (his? I honestly forget) voice was fitting. It's pretty much what an unstable little kid turned into a monster would sound like.
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LapisLazuli
05/27/17 4:13:17 AM
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I literally blocked out Kamoana's voice from my mind, damn you for dragging it up.

This is the first non-Baba Tales game since, if rumors regarding Vedperia's development are true, the last 1/3 of Vesperia. It certainly shows, though the lack of budget compared to the much more extensively funded but far worse Zesteria does show here and there. The next game will be current gen only, not Baba, and not shackled as a prequel, so I'm very, very interested in seeing it.
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KamikazePotato
05/27/17 4:40:48 AM
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If subsequent games keep the same level of quality then I think the one thing they still really need to fix is environmental design. Dungeons and areas can just be...kind of lifeless. That would be really hard to do without a bigger budget though.

Quick party rankings:
Velvet > Eleanor > Laphicet > Eizen > Magilou > Rokurou

They all range from good to very good. I also like that the party is a bit smaller than in previous games. It lets each character have more time to shine.
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NowItsAngeTime
05/27/17 4:45:02 AM
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Sadly Xillia, Xillia 2, Zestiria and Berseria basically all used the same graphics engine (or really close) and environments/creative design wasn't their forte
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The Mana Sword
05/27/17 6:58:58 AM
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Magilou is the best, what is this heresy.

Also I thought Bienfu was totally fine.
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Sceptilesolar
05/27/17 8:13:25 AM
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Berseria was great. Rokurou was the only bad party member and the plot was quite solid. A big improvement over Zestiria, which I didn't even hate like some did.

Who did people main? I played Eizen as soon as I got him and never stopped, he was tons of fun.
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KamikazePotato
05/27/17 11:32:17 AM
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I'm one of the casuals that always sticks with main character. Totally fine with that right now, Velvet is great.
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Drakeryn
05/27/17 11:38:38 AM
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BK_Sheikah00 posted...
I think the true blight on the english dub is Kamoana

this guy telling it like it is

everything about Kamoana was awful
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KamikazePotato
05/27/17 11:45:03 AM
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I like Kamoana though
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LapisLazuli
05/27/17 11:50:30 AM
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We know we're getting a Tales release first quarter 2018, so I'm hoping we see a hint of that at E3. could potentially just be a port or something.
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BowserCuffs
05/27/17 11:55:14 AM
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Bienfu's voice isn't that bad.

I mean, it's not good either, but it's one of those cute critter voices that both English and Japanese use.

In fact, I'm recalling such a voice speaking in barely understandable Japanese right now. I just wish I could remember what from.

EDIT: Oh hey, now I remember. Japanese!Meowth.
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NowItsAngeTime
05/27/17 3:13:48 PM
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KamikazePotato posted...
I like Kamoana though


as did I
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Peace___Frog
05/27/17 3:34:51 PM
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The demo didn't do much for me so i skipped this. Plan on getting it eventually once it gets cheaper, though.
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NowItsAngeTime
05/27/17 3:38:18 PM
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Peace___Frog posted...
The demo didn't do much for me so i skipped this. Plan on getting it eventually once it gets cheaper, though.


It didnt for me either. The thing with the demo is they give so much shit to learn at once while the actual game slowly introduces the mechanics

Some of the best parts of the story are towards the beginning. The story part in the demo is one of the slower parts.
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LapisLazuli
05/27/17 4:06:20 PM
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The demo was worrying, yes. No good answer for jRPG demos, really.
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Jeff Zero
05/27/17 6:05:30 PM
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I've seen it said that you play villains in this game. I'm not really into that idea, but if it's a greyer sort of thing, then that might be cool. What's the deal?
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SwiftyDC
05/27/17 6:13:16 PM
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The last Tales of games I played before Berseria was Graces F and Vesperia. Only thing I don't like about Berseria was the weapons/equipment system and how much you accumulate the same weapons over and over. Got tedious after awhile.
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Drakeryn
05/27/17 6:14:54 PM
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You don't actually play as villains.

Slightly more spoilery but still vague: You're out for REVENGE against the man who murdered your brother. Only problem is, that man is currently hailed as the savior of the world...so opposing him means that you and your party are publicly reviled as villains. But it turns out that, unbeknownst to everyone, that man is actually a pretty bad dude.
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