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saspa 05/27/17 11:38:14 AM #1:	How could Zemo be sure Tony would even show up, let alone at the same time as Captain American and his boy toy? Where does the UN and/or Ross get off lecturing the avengers about stuff like collateral damage when the government was going to throw a nuclear bomb at new york city to stop the aliens back in 2012's avengers (without even knowing if doing that will take care of the problem or not) Why does Bucky not just drown out the words by covering his ears and singing really loudly? And why didn't we see these activation words back in winter soldier? --- http://i.imgur.com/0UFI0T9.jpg <cite>saspa posted [p:879906475] in Civil War ... [t:75392226]...</cite> <quote>How could Zemo be sure Tony would even show up, let alone at the same time as Captain American and his boy toy? Where does the UN and/or Ross get off lecturing the avengers about stuff like collateral damage when the government was going to throw a nuclear bomb at new york city to stop the aliens back in 2012's avengers (without even knowing if doing that will take care of the problem or not) Why does Bucky not just drown out the words by covering his ears and singing really loudly? And why didn't we see these activation words back in winter soldier?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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saspa 05/27/17 1:54:30 PM #3:	I guess winter soldier making that hydra twist does explain away the willingness they seemed to have in ordering a nuclear strike that seemed overkill even back in 2012... --- http://i.imgur.com/0UFI0T9.jpg <cite>saspa posted [p:879912694] in Civil War ... [t:75392226]...</cite> <quote>I guess winter soldier making that hydra twist does explain away the willingness they seemed to have in ordering a nuclear strike that seemed overkill even back in 2012...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RchHomieQuanChi 05/27/17 1:59:01 PM #4:	saspa posted... How could Zemo be sure Tony would even show up, let alone at the same time as Captain American and his boy toy? Because he knows Tony is motivated by guilt. saspa posted... Where does the UN and/or Ross get off lecturing the avengers about stuff like collateral damage when the government was going to throw a nuclear bomb at new york city to stop the aliens back in 2012's avengers (without even knowing if doing that will take care of the problem or not) Outside of the implication that that was HYDRA's doing, governments ARE pretty hypocritical anyway. saspa posted... Why does Bucky not just drown out the words by covering his ears and singing really loudly? Valid point. saspa posted... And why didn't we see these activation words back in winter soldier? Why would we need to? --- I have nothing else to say <cite>RchHomieQuanChi posted [p:879912916] in Civil War ... [t:75392226]...</cite> <quote><cite>saspa posted...</cite> <quote>How could Zemo be sure Tony would even show up, let alone at the same time as Captain American and his boy toy? </quote> Because he knows Tony is motivated by guilt. <cite>saspa posted...</cite> <quote>Where does the UN and/or Ross get off lecturing the avengers about stuff like collateral damage when the government was going to throw a nuclear bomb at new york city to stop the aliens back in 2012's avengers (without even knowing if doing that will take care of the problem or not)</quote> Outside of the implication that that was HYDRA's doing, governments ARE pretty hypocritical anyway. <cite>saspa posted...</cite> <quote>Why does Bucky not just drown out the words by covering his ears and singing really loudly?</quote> Valid point. <cite>saspa posted...</cite> <quote>And why didn't we see these activation words back in winter soldier?</quote> Why would we need to?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Terra-enforcer 05/27/17 2:07:03 PM #5:	RchHomieQuanChi posted... Because he knows Tony is motivated by guilt. Still a very weak explanation --- Nintendo Switch Friend Code: SW-3032-7898-9500 http://psnprofiles.com/Terraforce777 http://miiverse.nintendo.net/users/Rayquaza487 <cite>Terra-enforcer posted [p:879913259] in Civil War ... [t:75392226]...</cite> <quote><cite>RchHomieQuanChi posted...</cite> <quote>Because he knows Tony is motivated by guilt.</quote> Still a very weak explanation</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
saspa 05/27/17 2:53:17 PM #6:	> Tony is motivated by guilt < hires a still in high school boy to join in what is a dangerous fight >< ? --- http://i.imgur.com/0UFI0T9.jpg <cite>saspa posted [p:879915573] in Civil War ... [t:75392226]...</cite> <quote>> Tony is motivated by guilt < hires a still in high school boy to join in what is a dangerous fight >< ?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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saspa 05/28/17 4:03:19 PM #8:	Terra-enforcer posted... RchHomieQuanChi posted... Because he knows Tony is motivated by guilt. Still a very weak explanation More importantly, what guilt. Regarding what. --- http://i.imgur.com/0UFI0T9.jpg <cite>saspa posted [p:879971176] in Civil War ... [t:75392226]...</cite> <quote><cite>Terra-enforcer posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RchHomieQuanChi posted...</cite> <quote>Because he knows Tony is motivated by guilt.</quote> Still a very weak explanation</quote> More importantly, what guilt. Regarding what.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_MorningStar 05/28/17 4:08:43 PM #9:	saspa posted... Terra-enforcer posted... RchHomieQuanChi posted... Because he knows Tony is motivated by guilt. Still a very weak explanation More importantly, what guilt. Regarding what. The guilt of the kid in Sokovia? Then the guilt of not believing his friend to try and salvage his relationship? Creating Ultron? --- http://i.imgur.com/UM1VO2V.jpg http://i.imgur.com/fd6WS3f.jpg <cite>_MorningStar posted [p:879971443] in Civil War ... [t:75392226]...</cite> <quote><cite>saspa posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Terra-enforcer posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RchHomieQuanChi posted...</cite> <quote>Because he knows Tony is motivated by guilt.</quote> Still a very weak explanation</quote> More importantly, what guilt. Regarding what.</quote> The guilt of the kid in Sokovia? Then the guilt of not believing his friend to try and salvage his relationship? Creating Ultron?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tremain07 05/28/17 4:09:25 PM #10:	I continue to remark about how fucking stupid it was for them to immediately start fighting and letting the bad guy who caused so much shit get away if it wasn't for Panther. --- I got nothing <cite>tremain07 posted [p:879971477] in Civil War ... [t:75392226]...</cite> <quote>I continue to remark about how fucking stupid it was for them to immediately start fighting and letting the bad guy who caused so much shit get away if it wasn't for Panther.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_MorningStar 05/28/17 4:12:29 PM #11:	tremain07 posted... I continue to remark about how fucking stupid it was for them to immediately start fighting and letting the bad guy who caused so much shit get away if it wasn't for Panther. ......did you the first couple of scenes of the movie? The death of Tony's parents has haunted him for decades. Out of all the things you could complain about, that can't seriously be one of them. --- http://i.imgur.com/UM1VO2V.jpg http://i.imgur.com/fd6WS3f.jpg <cite>_MorningStar posted [p:879971629] in Civil War ... [t:75392226]...</cite> <quote><cite>tremain07 posted...</cite> <quote>I continue to remark about how fucking stupid it was for them to immediately start fighting and letting the bad guy who caused so much shit get away if it wasn't for Panther.</quote> ......did you the first couple of scenes of the movie? The death of Tony's parents has haunted him for decades. Out of all the things you could complain about, that can't seriously be one of them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
I4NRulez 05/28/17 4:12:37 PM #12:	saspa posted... Where does the UN and/or Ross get off lecturing the avengers about stuff like collateral damage when the government was going to throw a nuclear bomb at new york city to stop the aliens back in 2012's avengers (without even knowing if doing that will take care of the problem or not) The government wants to control the avengers duh saspa posted... How could Zemo be sure Tony would even show up, let alone at the same time as Captain American and his boy toy? Its called the magic of plot convenience saspa posted... Why does Bucky not just drown out the words by covering his ears and singing really loudly? And why didn't we see these activation words back in winter soldier? Didn't they have him in the chair with this arms bound? --- The night brims with defiled scum,and is permeated by their rotten stench. Just think. Now you're all set to hunt and kill to your heart's content. <cite>I4NRulez posted [p:879971642] in Civil War ... [t:75392226]...</cite> <quote><cite>saspa posted...</cite> <quote>Where does the UN and/or Ross get off lecturing the avengers about stuff like collateral damage when the government was going to throw a nuclear bomb at new york city to stop the aliens back in 2012's avengers (without even knowing if doing that will take care of the problem or not)</quote> The government wants to control the avengers duh <cite>saspa posted...</cite> <quote>How could Zemo be sure Tony would even show up, let alone at the same time as Captain American and his boy toy?</quote> Its called the magic of plot convenience <cite>saspa posted...</cite> <quote>Why does Bucky not just drown out the words by covering his ears and singing really loudly? And why didn't we see these activation words back in winter soldier?</quote> Didn't they have him in the chair with this arms bound?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
slmcknett 05/28/17 4:19:24 PM #13:	saspa posted... How could Zemo be sure Tony would even show up, let alone at the same time as Captain American and his boy toy? He didn't. If Tony hadn't shown up, he would've just made sure the video got to him in some other way. Steve and Bucky going there would've just resulted in Zemo blackmailing them with the video. But Tony showed up anyway and expedited Zemo's plot. --- http://i.imgur.com/1LrhmQE.jpg Kari Wahlgren: "Guys, I just can't wrap my mouth around it." <cite>slmcknett posted [p:879971994] in Civil War ... [t:75392226]...</cite> <quote><cite>saspa posted...</cite> <quote>How could Zemo be sure Tony would even show up, let alone at the same time as Captain American and his boy toy?</quote> He didn't. If Tony hadn't shown up, he would've just made sure the video got to him in some other way. Steve and Bucky going there would've just resulted in Zemo blackmailing them with the video. But Tony showed up anyway and expedited Zemo's plot.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xeno14 05/28/17 4:24:26 PM #14:	do we just pretend the incredible hulk never happened? thats the only justification i can think of for anyone to listen to ross in that movie --- http://i.imgur.com/brMr5Ig.jpg http://i.imgur.com/MoXxySu.gif https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CyGM7qMXgAAwhbT.jpg:large <cite>Xeno14 posted [p:879972270] in Civil War ... [t:75392226]...</cite> <quote>do we just pretend the incredible hulk never happened? thats the only justification i can think of for anyone to listen to ross in that movie</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
saspa 05/28/17 4:50:00 PM #15:	Xeno14 posted... do we just pretend the incredible hulk never happened? thats the only justification i can think of for anyone to listen to ross in that movie Ross is the one that created the damn abomination, I can't believe he's not only still with a job, but got super promoted as well. Also shame that movie is kinda black sheep considering it was setting up the mega mind villain and the doc samson hero. Damn shame, we could use more quirky characters in mcu. --- http://i.imgur.com/0UFI0T9.jpg <cite>saspa posted [p:879973700] in Civil War ... [t:75392226]...</cite> <quote><cite>Xeno14 posted...</cite> <quote>do we just pretend the incredible hulk never happened? thats the only justification i can think of for anyone to listen to ross in that movie</quote> Ross is the one that created the damn abomination, I can't believe he's not only still with a job, but got super promoted as well. Also shame that movie is kinda black sheep considering it was setting up the mega mind villain and the doc samson hero. Damn shame, we could use more quirky characters in mcu.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
saspa 05/28/17 4:58:34 PM #16:	_MorningStar posted... saspa posted... Terra-enforcer posted... RchHomieQuanChi posted... Because he knows Tony is motivated by guilt. Still a very weak explanation More importantly, what guilt. Regarding what. The guilt of the kid in Sokovia? Then the guilt of not believing his friend to try and salvage his relationship? Creating Ultron? Yet he brought on another kid on a dangerous mission to bring in outlaws? --- http://i.imgur.com/0UFI0T9.jpg <cite>saspa posted [p:879974151] in Civil War ... [t:75392226]...</cite> <quote><cite>_MorningStar posted...</cite> <quote><cite>saspa posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Terra-enforcer posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RchHomieQuanChi posted...</cite> <quote>Because he knows Tony is motivated by guilt.</quote> Still a very weak explanation</quote> More importantly, what guilt. Regarding what.</quote> The guilt of the kid in Sokovia? Then the guilt of not believing his friend to try and salvage his relationship? Creating Ultron?</quote> Yet he brought on another kid on a dangerous mission to bring in outlaws?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Neoconkers 05/28/17 4:58:44 PM #17:	not as bad as Guardians of the Galaxy for coincidences --- Girls = Time x Money. Time = Money. Girls = Money x Money = Money sq. Money = sqrt Evil: Girls = sqrt Evil sq. Girls = Evil <cite>Neoconkers posted [p:879974163] in Civil War ... [t:75392226]...</cite> <quote>not as bad as Guardians of the Galaxy for coincidences</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_MorningStar 05/28/17 5:00:42 PM #18:	saspa posted... _MorningStar posted... saspa posted... Terra-enforcer posted... RchHomieQuanChi posted... Because he knows Tony is motivated by guilt. Still a very weak explanation More importantly, what guilt. Regarding what. The guilt of the kid in Sokovia? Then the guilt of not believing his friend to try and salvage his relationship? Creating Ultron? Yet he brought on another kid on a dangerous mission to bring in outlaws? He brought in a kid with super powers against a team of guys he knew would never seriously hurt a kid. It's not like he asked him to take on crossbones. --- http://i.imgur.com/UM1VO2V.jpg http://i.imgur.com/fd6WS3f.jpg <cite>_MorningStar posted [p:879974262] in Civil War ... [t:75392226]...</cite> <quote><cite>saspa posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_MorningStar posted...</cite> <quote><cite>saspa posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Terra-enforcer posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RchHomieQuanChi posted...</cite> <quote>Because he knows Tony is motivated by guilt.</quote> Still a very weak explanation</quote> More importantly, what guilt. Regarding what.</quote> The guilt of the kid in Sokovia? Then the guilt of not believing his friend to try and salvage his relationship? Creating Ultron?</quote> Yet he brought on another kid on a dangerous mission to bring in outlaws?</quote> He brought in a kid with super powers against a team of guys he knew would never seriously hurt a kid. It's not like he asked him to take on crossbones.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
saspa 05/28/17 5:08:12 PM #19:	More dangerous things have happened on what were supposed to be safe or routine missions. The point is that after getting guilt tripped by a black woman over her son dying, he still goes out to another woman and takes her still in high school kid, regardless of powers or not. I mean, Quicksilver had powers... --- http://i.imgur.com/0UFI0T9.jpg <cite>saspa posted [p:879974647] in Civil War ... [t:75392226]...</cite> <quote>More dangerous things have happened on what were supposed to be safe or routine missions. The point is that after getting guilt tripped by a black woman over her son dying, he still goes out to another woman and takes her still in high school kid, regardless of powers or not. I mean, Quicksilver had powers...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xeno14 05/28/17 5:51:25 PM #20:	saspa posted... Xeno14 posted... do we just pretend the incredible hulk never happened? thats the only justification i can think of for anyone to listen to ross in that movie Ross is the one that created the damn abomination, I can't believe he's not only still with a job, but got super promoted as well. Also shame that movie is kinda black sheep considering it was setting up the mega mind villain and the doc samson hero. Damn shame, we could use more quirky characters in mcu. ross invades brazil, unleashes hulk. Luckily not a large loss of life. Probably because he couldn't roll in with attack helicopters. but that whole invade sovereign nations bit in cap 3... invades college campus with humvee's and an attack helicopter has a hand in creating abomination which starts a huge fight in harlem and causes the most damage seen in a marvel movie up to that point. i guess that is why stark listens to ross, since ross is really the only one whose fuck ups are close to his --- http://i.imgur.com/brMr5Ig.jpg http://i.imgur.com/MoXxySu.gif https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CyGM7qMXgAAwhbT.jpg:large <cite>Xeno14 posted [p:879976734] in Civil War ... [t:75392226]...</cite> <quote><cite>saspa posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Xeno14 posted...</cite> <quote>do we just pretend the incredible hulk never happened? thats the only justification i can think of for anyone to listen to ross in that movie</quote> Ross is the one that created the damn abomination, I can't believe he's not only still with a job, but got super promoted as well. Also shame that movie is kinda black sheep considering it was setting up the mega mind villain and the doc samson hero. Damn shame, we could use more quirky characters in mcu.</quote> ross invades brazil, unleashes hulk. Luckily not a large loss of life. Probably because he couldn't roll in with attack helicopters. but that whole invade sovereign nations bit in cap 3... invades college campus with humvee's and an attack helicopter has a hand in creating abomination which starts a huge fight in harlem and causes the most damage seen in a marvel movie up to that point. i guess that is why stark listens to ross, since ross is really the only one whose fuck ups are close to his</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Veggeta X 05/28/17 10:54:05 PM #22:	One of my criticism is against Bucky. He think he's innocent or worth saving or worth all the trouble that's happening with everyone. If he was truly courageous then he would have turned himself in even if it meant taking his life. He knew he was dangerous and yet he wanted to live. I compare him to Banner. Banner knows he's dangerous and to stop the Hulk he tried killing himself. Bucky never thought about how dangerous he could be. --- Don't like it? Don't watch it. It's that simple FFBE ID: 196 912 851 900+ ATK Orlandu <cite>Veggeta X posted [p:879991420] in Civil War ... [t:75392226]...</cite> <quote>One of my criticism is against Bucky. He think he's innocent or worth saving or worth all the trouble that's happening with everyone. If he was truly courageous then he would have turned himself in even if it meant taking his life. He knew he was dangerous and yet he wanted to live. I compare him to Banner. Banner knows he's dangerous and to stop the Hulk he tried killing himself. Bucky never thought about how dangerous he could be.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dave_is_slick 05/28/17 10:55:11 PM #23:	Veggeta X posted... He think he's innocent or worth saving or worth all the trouble that's happening with everyone. No he fucking doesn't did you you even watch it? --- The most relaxing version of Aquatic Ambiance I've ever heard: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl61y1XM7sM <cite>dave_is_slick posted [p:879991487] in Civil War ... [t:75392226]...</cite> <quote><cite>Veggeta X posted...</cite> <quote>He think he's innocent or worth saving or worth all the trouble that's happening with everyone.</quote> No he fucking doesn't did you you even watch it?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Veggeta X 05/28/17 10:56:19 PM #24:	dave_is_slick posted... Veggeta X posted... He think he's innocent or worth saving or worth all the trouble that's happening with everyone. No he fucking doesn't did you you even watch it? Nice how you only read part of my post. --- Don't like it? Don't watch it. It's that simple FFBE ID: 196 912 851 900+ ATK Orlandu <cite>Veggeta X posted [p:879991538] in Civil War ... [t:75392226]...</cite> <quote><cite>dave_is_slick posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Veggeta X posted...</cite> <quote>He think he's innocent or worth saving or worth all the trouble that's happening with everyone.</quote> No he fucking doesn't did you you even watch it?</quote> Nice how you only read part of my post.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dave_is_slick 05/28/17 10:57:36 PM #25:	Veggeta X posted... dave_is_slick posted... Veggeta X posted... He think he's innocent or worth saving or worth all the trouble that's happening with everyone. No he fucking doesn't did you you even watch it? Nice how you only read part of my post. Well when you have such a fundamental misunderstanding as your beginning, your entire "point" is defeated from the go. --- The most relaxing version of Aquatic Ambiance I've ever heard: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl61y1XM7sM <cite>dave_is_slick posted [p:879991610] in Civil War ... [t:75392226]...</cite> <quote><cite>Veggeta X posted...</cite> <quote><cite>dave_is_slick posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Veggeta X posted...</cite> <quote>He think he's innocent or worth saving or worth all the trouble that's happening with everyone.</quote> No he fucking doesn't did you you even watch it?</quote> Nice how you only read part of my post.</quote> Well when you have such a fundamental misunderstanding as your beginning, your entire "point" is defeated from the go.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 05/28/17 10:58:41 PM #26:	Didn't his plan only rely on Tony showing up? He just needed to turn him against Captain America and Bucky. Which would break up the Avengers regardless. His plan would only really be messed up if only Cap showed up and Tony didn't bother. Which I don't think would have happened with that super soldier threat he was framing his plan to be. I haven't watched the movie in a while but I think that's how it went down. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:879991680] in Civil War ... [t:75392226]...</cite> <quote>Didn't his plan only rely on Tony showing up? He just needed to turn him against Captain America and Bucky. Which would break up the Avengers regardless. His plan would only really be messed up if only Cap showed up and Tony didn't bother. Which I don't think would have happened with that super soldier threat he was framing his plan to be. I haven't watched the movie in a while but I think that's how it went down.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Veggeta X 05/28/17 11:21:21 PM #27:	dave_is_slick posted... Well when you have such a fundamental misunderstanding as your beginning, your entire "point" is defeated from the go. You're just mad you jumped the gun and now you're damage controlling. --- Don't like it? Don't watch it. It's that simple FFBE ID: 196 912 851 900+ ATK Orlandu <cite>Veggeta X posted [p:879992763] in Civil War ... [t:75392226]...</cite> <quote><cite>dave_is_slick posted...</cite> <quote>Well when you have such a fundamental misunderstanding as your beginning, your entire "point" is defeated from the go.</quote> You're just mad you jumped the gun and now you're damage controlling.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xerun 05/28/17 11:22:47 PM #28:	He didn't need Tony to show up. He was going to put the video worldwide. He only went to the bunker to kill the other super soldiers and then himself. He just needed Tony to see the video to break up the Avengers. --- Currently Playing: Final Fantasy XV <cite>Xerun posted [p:879992813] in Civil War ... [t:75392226]...</cite> <quote>He didn't need Tony to show up. He was going to put the video worldwide. He only went to the bunker to kill the other super soldiers and then himself. He just needed Tony to see the video to break up the Avengers.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dave_is_slick 05/28/17 11:28:17 PM #29:	Veggeta X posted... dave_is_slick posted... Well when you have such a fundamental misunderstanding as your beginning, your entire "point" is defeated from the go. You're just mad you jumped the gun and now you're damage controlling. Since you want to whine about this: Veggeta X posted... If he was truly courageous then he would have turned himself in even if it meant taking his life. He knew he was dangerous and yet he wanted to live. I compare him to Banner. Banner knows he's dangerous and to stop the Hulk he tried killing himself. Bucky never thought about how dangerous he could be. He turned himself in to Wakanda exactly because of that. Specifically told them not to wake him until they could break the brainwashing. Which you'd know, if you watched the movie. --- The most relaxing version of Aquatic Ambiance I've ever heard: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl61y1XM7sM <cite>dave_is_slick posted [p:879993064] in Civil War ... [t:75392226]...</cite> <quote><cite>Veggeta X posted...</cite> <quote><cite>dave_is_slick posted...</cite> <quote>Well when you have such a fundamental misunderstanding as your beginning, your entire "point" is defeated from the go.</quote> You're just mad you jumped the gun and now you're damage controlling.</quote> Since you want to whine about this: <cite>Veggeta X posted...</cite> <quote> If he was truly courageous then he would have turned himself in even if it meant taking his life. He knew he was dangerous and yet he wanted to live. I compare him to Banner. Banner knows he's dangerous and to stop the Hulk he tried killing himself. Bucky never thought about how dangerous he could be.</quote> He turned himself in to Wakanda exactly because of that. Specifically told them not to wake him until they could break the brainwashing. Which you'd know, if you watched the movie.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Veggeta X 05/28/17 11:47:25 PM #30:	dave_is_slick posted... He turned himself in to Wakanda exactly because of that. Specifically told them not to wake him until they could break the brainwashing. Which you'd know, if you watched the movie. Which all happened after Iron Man and Cap almost killed each other. Try again madbro. --- Don't like it? Don't watch it. It's that simple FFBE ID: 196 912 851 900+ ATK Orlandu <cite>Veggeta X posted [p:879994063] in Civil War ... [t:75392226]...</cite> <quote><cite>dave_is_slick posted...</cite> <quote>He turned himself in to Wakanda exactly because of that. Specifically told them not to wake him until they could break the brainwashing. Which you'd know, if you watched the movie.</quote> Which all happened after Iron Man and Cap almost killed each other. Try again madbro.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
saspa 05/29/17 11:26:32 PM #31:	Xerun posted... He didn't need Tony to show up. He was going to put the video worldwide. He only went to the bunker to kill the other super soldiers and then himself. He just needed Tony to see the video to break up the Avengers. Did he want to see whether or not their empire crumbled from within, or was he satisfied just dying and believing that's what would happen? --- http://i.imgur.com/0UFI0T9.jpg <cite>saspa posted [p:880051393] in Civil War ... [t:75392226]...</cite> <quote><cite>Xerun posted...</cite> <quote>He didn't need Tony to show up. He was going to put the video worldwide. He only went to the bunker to kill the other super soldiers and then himself. He just needed Tony to see the video to break up the Avengers.</quote> Did he want to see whether or not their empire crumbled from within, or was he satisfied just dying and believing that's what would happen?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 05/29/17 11:28:08 PM #32:	saspa posted... Xerun posted... He didn't need Tony to show up. He was going to put the video worldwide. He only went to the bunker to kill the other super soldiers and then himself. He just needed Tony to see the video to break up the Avengers. Did he want to see whether or not their empire crumbled from within, or was he satisfied just dying and believing that's what would happen? Well I suppose he could have watched the news and then popped himself lol --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:880051468] in Civil War ... [t:75392226]...</cite> <quote><cite>saspa posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Xerun posted...</cite> <quote>He didn't need Tony to show up. He was going to put the video worldwide. He only went to the bunker to kill the other super soldiers and then himself. He just needed Tony to see the video to break up the Avengers.</quote> Did he want to see whether or not their empire crumbled from within, or was he satisfied just dying and believing that's what would happen?</quote> Well I suppose he could have watched the news and then popped himself lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ReD_ToMaTo 05/29/17 11:30:58 PM #33:	The entire movie makes zero sense. The only good parts were the action. --- PSN: ReD_ToMaTo <cite>ReD_ToMaTo posted [p:880051601] in Civil War ... [t:75392226]...</cite> <quote>The entire movie makes zero sense. The only good parts were the action.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Murphiroth 05/29/17 11:45:34 PM #34:	saspa posted... How could Zemo be sure Tony would even show up, let alone at the same time as Captain American and his boy toy? Where does the UN and/or Ross get off lecturing the avengers about stuff like collateral damage when the government was going to throw a nuclear bomb at new york city to stop the aliens back in 2012's avengers (without even knowing if doing that will take care of the problem or not) Why does Bucky not just drown out the words by covering his ears and singing really loudly? And why didn't we see these activation words back in winter soldier? He didn't know Tony would show up. Pretty sure he even says in the movie he could have released the video any time and would have. Wasn't the goverment or Ross that dropped the nuke, that was the World Security Council, specifically Gideon Malick who orders it IIRC, who as we know from Agents of SHIELD is ~~Hydra, and high in the ranks.~~ Because he couldn't. Arms were shackled. Plus I imagine hearing the words immediately starts to affect him. --- http://i.imgur.com/aelKAwf.jpg FC - 2852 - 9769 - 0007 My shinies - http://imgur.com/a/uPVUX <cite>Murphiroth posted [p:880052251] in Civil War ... [t:75392226]...</cite> <quote><cite>saspa posted...</cite> <quote>How could Zemo be sure Tony would even show up, let alone at the same time as Captain American and his boy toy? Where does the UN and/or Ross get off lecturing the avengers about stuff like collateral damage when the government was going to throw a nuclear bomb at new york city to stop the aliens back in 2012's avengers (without even knowing if doing that will take care of the problem or not) Why does Bucky not just drown out the words by covering his ears and singing really loudly? And why didn't we see these activation words back in winter soldier?</quote> He didn't know Tony would show up. Pretty sure he even says in the movie he could have released the video any time and would have. Wasn't the goverment or Ross that dropped the nuke, that was the World Security Council, specifically Gideon Malick who orders it IIRC, who as we know from Agents of SHIELD is Hydra, and high in the ranks. Because he couldn't. Arms were shackled. Plus I imagine hearing the words immediately starts to affect him.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xerun 05/29/17 11:50:16 PM #35:	saspa posted... Xerun posted... He didn't need Tony to show up. He was going to put the video worldwide. He only went to the bunker to kill the other super soldiers and then himself. He just needed Tony to see the video to break up the Avengers. Did he want to see whether or not their empire crumbled from within, or was he satisfied just dying and believing that's what would happen? He was just a soldier and knew he had no chance in a direct confrontation. He spent the time between Ultron and Civil War using the files Black Widow dumped on the net from Winter Soldier and came up with his plan. I think he figured this was the only chance he had and if it failed or not he still would have killed himself. He just got lucky. --- Currently Playing: Final Fantasy XV <cite>Xerun posted [p:880052490] in Civil War ... [t:75392226]...</cite> <quote><cite>saspa posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Xerun posted...</cite> <quote>He didn't need Tony to show up. He was going to put the video worldwide. He only went to the bunker to kill the other super soldiers and then himself. He just needed Tony to see the video to break up the Avengers.</quote> Did he want to see whether or not their empire crumbled from within, or was he satisfied just dying and believing that's what would happen?</quote> He was just a soldier and knew he had no chance in a direct confrontation. He spent the time between Ultron and Civil War using the files Black Widow dumped on the net from Winter Soldier and came up with his plan. I think he figured this was the only chance he had and if it failed or not he still would have killed himself. He just got lucky.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ledbowman 05/29/17 11:51:47 PM #36:	Civil War is just good, nothing special. X-Men: Apocalypse is slightly better. --- I wish we all waved <cite>ledbowman posted [p:880052569] in Civil War ... [t:75392226]...</cite> <quote>Civil War is just good, nothing special. X-Men: Apocalypse is slightly better.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pegusus123456 05/29/17 11:53:40 PM #37:	Xeno14 posted... ross invades brazil, unleashes hulk. Luckily not a large loss of life. Probably because he couldn't roll in with attack helicopters. but that whole invade sovereign nations bit in cap 3... invades college campus with humvee's and an attack helicopter has a hand in creating abomination which starts a huge fight in harlem and causes the most damage seen in a marvel movie up to that point. i guess that is why stark listens to ross, since ross is really the only one whose fuck ups are close to his My impression was that the general consensus was that the military believed the Hulk was such a threat that Ross' actions were justified. Maybe up to the point that the Brazilian government allowed them to intervene. And going by comments in the Netflix series and the like, I'm pretty sure Abomination being there was covered up so most people think it was just the Hulk rampaging around. Oh and as for why the trigger words weren't a thing in Winter Soldier, it could be that he is programmed/brainwashed to only take direct orders from direct leaders of HYDRA and the words were a way for others to give him orders. --- http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif <cite>pegusus123456 posted [p:880052645] in Civil War ... [t:75392226]...</cite> <quote><cite>Xeno14 posted...</cite> <quote> ross invades brazil, unleashes hulk. Luckily not a large loss of life. Probably because he couldn't roll in with attack helicopters. but that whole invade sovereign nations bit in cap 3... invades college campus with humvee's and an attack helicopter has a hand in creating abomination which starts a huge fight in harlem and causes the most damage seen in a marvel movie up to that point. i guess that is why stark listens to ross, since ross is really the only one whose fuck ups are close to his</quote> My impression was that the general consensus was that the military believed the Hulk was such a threat that Ross' actions were justified. Maybe up to the point that the Brazilian government allowed them to intervene. And going by comments in the Netflix series and the like, I'm pretty sure Abomination being there was covered up so most people think it was just the Hulk rampaging around. Oh and as for why the trigger words weren't a thing in Winter Soldier, it could be that he is programmed/brainwashed to only take direct orders from direct leaders of HYDRA and the words were a way for others to give him orders.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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