Board 8 > ~FIGHT!~ Lady/Wesker/Scorpion vs. Lightning/Kyo/Damus/ Ansem/Alucard/Grigori

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KanzarisKelshen
05/27/17 1:29:32 PM
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Lady, Wesker and Scorpion have challenged Lightning, Kyo, Dark Samus, Ansem, Alucard and Grigori to a fight! Location of the fight: Luxerion, the Divine City of Light - A gothic metropolis home to the Order, that chooses to greet the end of the world with peaceful reflection and prayer. There are no residents present and access to other areas of Nova Chrysalia is forbidden. Defenders will start at the cathedral where the portal leading to Bhunivelze's sanctum can be found (though it is inactive), and attackers will start at the city's train station.. Which side will win?


Guidelines

- The fight will occur in real-time (like an FMV sequence). Gameplay mechanics are less important than how the characters would function in a real-time environment.
- The members of each team are ideal teammates capable of a pre-selected plan of battle.
- "Broken" refers to a lot of things, including insta-death, auto-effects, a variety of status effects (e.g., Imp, Silence, Stop, *not* Poison), and revival. Unless stated otherwise, nobody has them, though do use your own discretion.
- There may be SPOILERS from all of the games the characters are from.

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-If you want to switch your votes simply bold the change; there's no need to delete your post, though you may if you wish.
-This match will end in 24 hours.
-The following conventions are in use for match topics: www.gamefaqs.com/boards/570224-mercs/75290480/878106427


Scorpion is as seen in the Mortal Kombat series. He has all of his moves. He may only use fatalities against suitably weakened opponents.

Lady is as seen in Devil May Cry 4: Special Edition, armed with her signature rocket launcher Kalina Ann, dual custom CZ-75 handguns, dual VZ.61 Scorpion submachine guns, Coyote-A shotgun, and a virtually limitless supply of grenades and ammunition.

Albert Wesker is as he appears during his first boss fight in Resident Evil 5. He comes equipped with his custom Samurai Edge, semi-automatic rifle, Lightning Hawk magnum and several flash and frag grenades. He also has his moveset from Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3.
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KanzarisKelshen
05/27/17 1:29:38 PM
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~VS~

Kusanagi Kyo is as seen in the King of Fighters: Online, at max level with a kusanagi sword, assassin's bloody blade, ranger's crossbow, dancer's blade, scimitar, and killer boots, though he hasn't purchased any pills. He will protect Lightning to the best of his ability.

Alucard is as he appears through the second castle of Castlevania: Symphony of the Night. He is equipped with the Cross, has access to his best non-broken equipment and relics up to that point, and does not have the Shield Rod or his intro equipment. He has the Mist relic, but no Mist time extension or poison. The only familiar he has with him is the Bat, which summons more bats to help Alucard when he transforms.

Ansem, Seeker of the Darkness is as he appears in his first two phases of the final boss fight in Kingdom Hearts. He may freely summon Xehanort's Guardian and use all of his attacks from both KH1 and Chain of Memories. Riku will not influence him and he may not summon Darkside or any other heartless.

Lightning is as she appears in the endgame of Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII, with a schemata set-up featuring a balance of her strongest physical, magical and debuffing skills and equipment, and with limited use of Curaga.

Dark Samus is as she appears in her boss fight in Metroid Prime 3: Corruption, although she cannot turn invincible, turn incorporeal or heal off of phazon.

Grigori is as he appears in Dragon's Dogma, with access to all his moves except possession. A fighter does not have to be an Arisen to deal the final blow to him.

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DeathChicken
05/27/17 1:30:39 PM
#3:


Is...is this a terrain where Grigori is not stuck in a small box? Wow
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KanzarisKelshen
05/27/17 1:31:10 PM
#4:


@Corrik
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The floor is yours, if you care for it.
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Johnbobb
05/27/17 2:08:15 PM
#5:


Welp
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FFDragon
05/27/17 2:09:42 PM
#6:


As the biggest Wesker fanboy here, there is no way Damus and Co doesn't light this place completely up.
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JeezyMiyagi
05/27/17 2:12:50 PM
#7:


this seems pretty cut and dry

the true tyrant Alucard, who definitely has genitals
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greengravy294
05/27/17 2:14:34 PM
#8:


How did grigori get into battle
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greengravy294
05/27/17 2:15:29 PM
#9:


Also where is the tyrant???
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Anagram
05/27/17 2:15:37 PM
#10:


This seems awfully one-sided.
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Corrik
05/27/17 2:22:35 PM
#11:


I believe my team can win. Feel free to ask me questions if you are unsure of how my team is victorious.
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DeathChicken
05/27/17 2:24:29 PM
#12:


I'm leaning Grigori Solos, but feel free to persuade me otherwise
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Corrik
05/27/17 2:28:17 PM
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DeathChicken posted...
I'm leaning Grigori Solos, but feel free to persuade me otherwise

Well, not to impugn your beliefs, but I believe Scorpion is actually quite a hard counter to Grigori. Scorpion has unlimited teleport range. He teleports to the netherrealm and to a spot on Earth every time he teleports.

He has been shown teleporting into helicopters as they fly and also has been shown to teleport while free falling through the sky as the helicopter crashed and off screen to on screen at will. He has no cooldown on his teleport and can use it freely.


Why is this a hard counter to grigori? Because when Grigori is flying around, Scorpion can simply teleport onto his backside and he has his chains to latch on to grigori to not be thrown off.

I am not sure how well grigori would do with Scorpions chains lodged into the back of his neck personally. = /
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Mewtwo59
05/27/17 2:30:01 PM
#14:


Yeah, I think Grigori, Lightning or Dark Samus could solo. Add in the other two and it's a stomp for Team Grigori
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DoomTheGyarados
05/27/17 2:30:43 PM
#15:


Lightning solos
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Corrik
05/27/17 2:31:14 PM
#16:


You should discuss the fight before blindly voting.
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Anagram
05/27/17 2:32:12 PM
#17:


I don't see how the first team can beat any of Ansem, Grigori, or Lightning just solo, much less a larger team of all of them and more. Lady in particular is just a human.
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GANON1025
05/27/17 2:32:34 PM
#18:


As the actual biggest Wesker fanboy here, it pains me to have to vote for Team Into Free (Grigori)
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Corrik
05/27/17 2:33:18 PM
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Anagram posted...
I don't see how the first team can beat any of Ansem, Grigori, or Lightning just solo, much less a larger team of all of them and more. Lady in particular is just a human.

Lady fights with Dantes and Vergils of the world. Seems like a hard undersell you are attempting here on Lady.
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FFDragon
05/27/17 2:34:58 PM
#20:


i will fight you ganon
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GANON1025
05/27/17 2:35:37 PM
#21:


hmm yeah but let's see I owned one Wekser in mercs 4, you owned 0
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FFDragon
05/27/17 2:36:43 PM
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yeah but I owned one Wesker in mercs 3

and I wasn't playing M4 when you bought him
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GANON1025
05/27/17 2:37:27 PM
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Well that's an awfully convenient excuse
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FFDragon
05/27/17 2:37:44 PM
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the best kind of excuse
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Corrik
05/27/17 2:38:40 PM
#25:


Can we stay on topic and stop the blind voting. This fight is close fight in which needs to be discussed.
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Lopen
05/27/17 2:39:53 PM
#26:


Why are there so many on one team and so few on the other team
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JeezyMiyagi
05/27/17 2:44:07 PM
#27:


Lopen posted...
Why are there so many on one team and so few on the other team


I think Corrik sacrificed like 5 of his Mercs to appease Anima and then Luca killed 2 more
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FFDragon
05/27/17 2:46:14 PM
#28:


i'd say this is the most lopsided match of the week

but I think lopen has a full teamn against just bowser
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JeezyMiyagi
05/27/17 2:49:02 PM
#29:


FFDragon posted...
i'd say this is the most lopsided match of the week

but I think lopen has a full teamn against just bowser



counterpoint, Bowser has the clown car and infinite goombas
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Lopen
05/27/17 2:50:18 PM
#30:


You heard it @KanzarisKelshen people want to see the 4v1

(Also they demand a Tyrant)
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Drakeryn
05/27/17 2:55:27 PM
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oh my god what is this, i’m trying to train my magikarp. oh shit, did it start? it’s okay. i’m going to close my emulator. all right, i’m ready
oh yes!! i see the enemies!! yes! eliminated! eliminated! this game is easy when you see the enemies. i just pressed right-click and they died
oh shit, is that yellow guy an enemy?! i killed someone with my rocket thing! i’m just kind of firing blindly into their… i hit someone!
all right. my ultimate is 96%, guys. let’s do it.
all right! i’m gonna go! fuck tanky fucker
tactical visor. i’d love to use that when enemies are unaware of my location. ah!! they were aware of my location!! oh shit. that one was not my fault at all
oh shit that was an ally. what a use of tactical visor
oh!! i just held down the click. man this guy’s good. what the hell
you know, i think i’m not being fairly considered for plays of the game

team kyo
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trdl23
05/27/17 3:04:15 PM
#32:


Lightning crashes.

Sorry Corrik, but there just isn't much of a debate to be had.
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JeezyMiyagi
05/27/17 3:34:11 PM
#33:


Lopen posted...
You heard it @KanzarisKelshen people want to see the 4v1


I nobly volunteer to argue for Team Koopa if God is still MIA
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MajinZidane
05/27/17 3:42:26 PM
#34:


I think Lightning W/ Kyo could win this alone.
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Lopen
05/27/17 3:42:54 PM
#35:


God is MIA

Permanently
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Lopen
05/27/17 3:43:45 PM
#36:


Team Lightning btw
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MenuWars
05/27/17 4:09:36 PM
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I'd like to give team Scorp a pity vote, but this is that much of a shit stomp I can't even do that. Throw lightning out and you have a good fight, but with her and her being bodyguarded for the match... and with Wesker being unable to mutate if he takes a shit ton of damage, there's not much Scorp or Lady can do other than be a distraction.
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Johnbobb
05/27/17 4:10:18 PM
#38:


Welcome the darkness into your heart!
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Corrik
05/27/17 4:12:42 PM
#39:


Johnbobb posted...
Welcome the darkness into your heart!

Invalid vote
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Anagram
05/27/17 4:19:58 PM
#40:


Corrik posted...
Anagram posted...
I don't see how the first team can beat any of Ansem, Grigori, or Lightning just solo, much less a larger team of all of them and more. Lady in particular is just a human.

Lady fights with Dantes and Vergils of the world. Seems like a hard undersell you are attempting here on Lady.

Lady got her ass kicked by Dante and never fought Vergil. She's super strong for a human, maybe the strongest human in the world, but she's still just a human, and her most powerful abilities are just grenades and a rocket launcher.
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Xiahou Shake
05/27/17 4:30:22 PM
#41:


As someone who doesn't really follow these topics, their mechanics or their politics, I can't help but notice there've been a few recently with a smaller team vs. a larger team that includes someone who can solo the smaller team. What's up with that? >_>
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DeathChicken
05/27/17 4:32:47 PM
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Apparently Corrik killed half of his team for a possible later benefit. This is a thing that can be done
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trdl23
05/27/17 4:33:18 PM
#43:


Xiahou Shake posted...
As someone who doesn't really follow these topics, their mechanics or their politics, I can't help but notice there've been a few recently with a smaller team vs. a larger team that includes someone who can solo the smaller team. What's up with that? >_>

There's a lot of abilities used in the dedicated Mercs topics (Peacetime, Wartime, etc.) Those abilities often remove mercs from opposing teams for the week, or they turbonerf/damage them so much it's not worth rostering.
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ZeeksFire
05/27/17 8:43:12 PM
#44:


Lightning

I'd really like to see how much disbelief it takes to make an argument to state that a team of 3 can take on a team of 6, of which an argument could be made for any 1 on 1 to go easily to the larger team's favor, and I'd expect two or three v ones.
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Corrik
05/27/17 8:47:27 PM
#45:


ZeeksFire posted...
Lightning

I'd really like to see how much disbelief it takes to make an argument to state that a team of 3 can take on a team of 6, of which an argument could be made for any 1 on 1 to go easily to the larger team's favor, and I'd expect two or three v ones.

What disbelief does it take? Once Scorpion teleports onto Grigori and slays the beast with his hard counter, the enemy team is demoralized. Their biggest threat and teammate went down before their eyes and had no effect on the match.

Then they have to fight street to street in what will be guerilla combat with two deadly ranged gunners. Lady is armed with grenades which is perfect for street fighting. And it leaves many ambush opportunities available for Scorpion.

It would be hard fought but ultimately the better team situated for the terrain will win.

Dark Samus will be the most difficult opponent from the enemy team.
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Alany
05/27/17 8:51:49 PM
#46:


Honestly, even Ansem and Damus could win here just together. Lightning could win alone. Grigori could win alone too. Alucard can't though.
So...
DARKNESS!
PHAZON!
DRAGON!
GODDESS!

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Alany
05/27/17 8:54:50 PM
#47:


Corrik posted...
What disbelief does it take? Once Scorpion teleports onto Grigori and slays the beast with his hard counter, the enemy team is demoralized. Their biggest threat and teammate went down before their eyes and had no effect on the match.

Corrik. Like, really.

Scorpion does not take down a titanic dragon within one attack. Or ten attacks. Or one hundred.

Grigori has enough strength to snap the chains, if his scales don't just no sell his weapons.

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greengravy294
05/27/17 8:56:27 PM
#48:


Anagram posted...
Lady in particular is just a human

@Anagram

I don't have much of a dog in the fight in this match itself but Lady is pretty much peak level human. That's pretty good IMO
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greengravy294
05/27/17 8:58:36 PM
#49:


Xiahou Shake posted...
As someone who doesn't really follow these topics, their mechanics or their politics, I can't help but notice there've been a few recently with a smaller team vs. a larger team that includes someone who can solo the smaller team. What's up with that? >_>

Corrik sacrificed 4 of his 5 'high' (aka 6/7 upkeep) mercs this week to DEATH GOD Anima from FF10 so she'd become a customization for Yuna who isn't in this fight. He also killed Nova, a mid tier upkeep. For reference he injured: Id (from Xenogears), Revan (from SWTOR/KOTOR), Sephiroth (from FF7/KH), and Kuja (from FF9). All mercs that'd be able to fight on equal footing against Lightning and D. Samus, Boko's strongest mercs.

His 5th high upkeep merc (and strongest overall merc), Bayonetta, was KO'd and unable to fight in this match. So all he had were his mid ranged mercs (Lady = 5, Wesker = 5, and Scorp = 3 aka low tier bracket)

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Alany
05/27/17 8:59:01 PM
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Yeah, Lady's got some RIDICULOUS gunplay and does bullet-timing shit 24/7. She's like a Matrix character with bullet time and shit.

But that just doesn't really help when Grigori just absorbs bullets 24/7 and everyone else who matters tanks/dodges on the enemy team.
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